ECON OMG!! Wanna see when the REAL mortgage meltdown will hit? Look here!

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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OMG!!!!


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The story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28035238/

'Pay option' loans could swell defaults
New wave of defaults likely as risky loans reset to sharply higher payments
By John W. Schoen
Senior producer
updated 8:01 p.m. CT, Wed., Dec. 10, 2008
Some time after Sharren McGarry went to work as a mortgage consultant at Wachovia’s Stuart, Fla., branch in July 2007, she and her colleagues were directed to market a mortgage called the “Pick A Pay” loan. Sales commissions on the product were double the rates for conventional mortgages, and she was required to make sure nearly half the loans she sold were "Pick A Pay," she said.

These “pay option” adjustable-rate mortgages gave borrowers a choice of payments each month. They also carried a feature that came as a nasty surprise to some borrowers, called "negative amortization." If the homeowner opted to pay less than the full monthly amount, the difference was tacked onto the principal. When the loan automatically “recasted” in five or 10 years, the owner would be locked into a new, much higher, set monthly payment.

While McGarry balked at selling these pay-option ARMs, other lenders and mortgage brokers were happy to sell the loans and pocket the higher commissions.

Now, as the housing recession deepens, a coming wave of payment shocks threatens to bring another surge in defaults and foreclosures as these mortgages “recast” to higher monthly payments over the next two years.

“The next wave (of foreclosures) is coming next year and in 2010, and that is primarily due to these pay-option ARMS and the five-year, adjustable-rate hybrid ARMS that are coming up for reset,” said William Longbrake, retired vice chairman of Washington Mutual. The giant Seattle-based bank, which collapsed this year under the weight of its bad mortgage loans, was one of the biggest originators of pay-option ARMs during the lending boom.

The next wave may be even more difficult to handle than the last one.

“It’s going to get tougher to modify loans as these option ARMs come into their resets," Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairwoman Sheila Bair told msnbc.com this week. "Those are more difficult than the subprime and traditional adjustable rates to modify because there is such a huge payment differential when they reset."

Monthly quota: 45 percent
With 16 years of experience in the mortgage business, McGarry didn’t believe the “pay option” loan was a good deal for most of her customers, so she didn’t promote it.


“I looked at it and I thought: I’m 60 years old. If I were in these peoples’ situation 10 years from now, where would I be?” she said. “Do I want to be in a position that 10 years from now I can’t make this higher payment and I’m forced to make this payment and be forced out of my home? So I wouldn’t do it.”

Her job description included a requirement that she meet a monthly quota of Pick A Pay mortgages, something she said wasn’t spelled out when she was hired. Still, she said, she continued to steer her customers to conventional loans, even though her manager “frequently reminded me that my job requirement was that I do 45 percent of my volume in the Pick A Pay loan.”

In June 2008, her manager wrote a “Corrective Action and Counseling” warning, saying she wasn’t meeting the bank’s “expectation of production.” McGarry soon left Wachovia after finding a job with another mortgage company. On June 30, the bank stopped selling mortgages with negative amortization. In October Wachovia, suffering from heavy mortgage-related losses, agreed to be acquired by Wells Fargo.

A spokesman for Wachovia said that generally the bank doesn't comment on internal marketing policies. But he said commissions on Pick A Pay mortgages were higher because the loans were more complicated and required more work to originate. He also noted that when Wachovia's Pick A Pay loans recast, the payment increase is capped for any given year, which helps ease borrowers' burden of meeting a higher payment.


The first wave of home foreclosures that hit in late 2006 and early 2007 followed the resetting of subprime adjustable mortgages with two- and three-year "teaser rates" written during the height of the lending boom earlier in the decade. But pay-option ARMs — which often don't "recast" for five years — have a longer fuse. Unless defused by aggressive public and private foreclosure prevention programs, the bulk of these loans will explode to higher payments in 2009 and 2010.

The scope of the problem was highlighted in September in a study by Fitch Ratings, one of the bond rating agencies that assesses the risk of defaults on mortgage-backed investments. Of the $200 billion in option ARMs outstanding, Fitch estimates that some $29 billion will recast in 2009 and another $67 billion in 2010. That could cause delinquencies on these loans to more than double, Fitch said.


To make matters worse, only 17 percent of option ARMs written from 2004 to 2007 required full documentation. Many of the borrowers who took out these loans also took out a second mortgage, which means they likely have little or no equity in their home, according to the report. That means many could owe more than their house is worth when the loan recasts to unaffordable payments.

Heavy losses from investments backed by pay option ARMs were a major cause of the demise of Wachovia and Washington Mutual, one of the largest originators of option ARMs during the height of the lending bubble. (Washington Mutual was seized by the FDIC in September, which arranged for the sale of its assets to JPMorgan Chase. Wachovia was acquired in October by Wells Fargo, which outbid Citibank after it arranged a deal with the FDIC to acquire Wachovia.)

Since the housing bubble began to deflate in 2006, roughly 3 million homes have been lost to foreclosure. Over the next two years, another 3.6 million are expected to lose their homes, according to Moody’s Economy.com chief economist Mark Zandi.

Many of the most problematic loans — those sold with a two- or three-year low “teaser” rates — have already reset to higher levels. Those resets have been a major force in the first wave of foreclosures, which rose from 953,000 in 2006 to nearly 1.8 million last year and are on track to hit 3.1 million this year, according to First American CoreLogic, which tracks real estate data.

And the pace of foreclosures is still climbing. More than 259,000 U.S. homes received at least one foreclosure-related notice in November, up 28 percent from the same month last year, according to RealtyTrac.

Though the pace dropped slightly from the previous month, there are indications "that this lower activity is simply a temporary lull before another foreclosure storm hits in the coming months," said RealtyTrac CEO James Saccacio.

Mortgage delinquencies — homeowners who have fallen behind but not yet been hit with foreclosure — are also on the rise, according to the latest quarterly survey from the Mortgage Bankers Association. A record one in 10 American households with mortgages was overdue on payments or in foreclosure as of the end of September.

The impact is being felt unevenly across the country. Foreclosures are clustered in states that saw the biggest expansion in lending and home building. In Nevada, one in every 74 homes was hit with a foreclosure filing last month. Arizona saw one in every 149 housing units receive a foreclosure filing, and in Florida it was one in every 157 homes. California, Colorado, Georgia, Michigan, New Jersey, Illinois and Ohio have also been hard hit.

“In the neighborhoods that have concentrations of subprime loans you already have concerns about crashing neighborhoods with too many vacant houses and crime rises,” said Longbrake. “The same thing will be true for these option ARMs. They are concentrated in particular neighborhoods and particular locales around the country."

Developed in the late 1980s, pay-option ARMs were written at first only for borrowers who showed they could afford the full monthly payment. But during the height of the lending boom, underwriting standards were lowered to qualify borrowers who could only afford the minimum payment, according to Longbrake.

College savings made easy
McGarry says she was encouraged to promote the idea that with a Pick A Pay loan the borrower could pay less than the full monthly payment and set aside the difference for savings or investment. The pitch included sales literature comparing two brothers. One took the Pick A Pay loan, made the minimum payment and put money in the bank. The second brother got a conforming loan. Five years later, both brothers needed to pay their children’s college tuition.

“(The brother with the conforming loan) didn’t have the money in the bank,” said McGarry. “And the brother that had the pay-option ARM could go to the bank and withdraw the money and didn’t have to refinance his mortgage. That’s how they sold it.”


McGarry said the sales pitch downplayed the impact of negative amortization. When the loan principal swells to a set threshold — typically between 110 and 125 percent of the original loan amount — the mortgage automatically “recasts” to a higher, set monthly payment that many borrowers would have a hard time keeping up with.

Fitch estimates that the average potential payment increase would be 63 percent, or about $1,053 a month — on top of the current average payment of $1,672.


The impact on the millions of American families losing their homes is devastating. But the foreclosure fallout is being felt around the world. As the U.S. slides deeper into recession, foreclosures are the root cause of a downward spiral that threatens to prolong and widen the economic impact:

As the pace of foreclosures rises, the glut of homes on the market pushes home prices lower. That erodes home equity for all homeowners, draining consumer spending power and further weakening the economy.

The overhang of unsold homes also depresses the home building industry, one of the major engines of growth in a healthy economy.

As home values decline, investors and lenders holding bonds backed by mortgages book steeper losses. Banks holding mortgage-backed investments hoard cash, creating a credit squeeze that acts as a bigger drag on the economy.

The resulting pullback in consumer and business spending brings more layoffs. Those layoffs put additional homeowners at risk of defaulting on their mortgages, and the cycle repeats.
"Foreclosures are going to mount and the negative self-reinforcing cycle will accelerate," said Zandi. "It's already happening, but it will accelerate in a lot more parts of the country."

As pay-option ARMs put more homeowners under pressure, other forces are combining to increase the risk of mortgage defaults. As of the end of September, the drop in home prices had left roughly one in five borrowers stuck with a mortgage bigger than their house is worth, according to First American CoreLogic. In a normal market, homeowners who suffer a financial setback can tap some of the equity in their home or sell their home and move on.

“That’s a big issue,” said Mark Fleming, First American CoreLogic’s chief economist. “As equity is being destroyed in the housing markets, more and more people are being pushed into a negative equity position. That means that they’re not going to have the option for sale or refinance if they hit hard times."

“Negative equity” is also a major roadblock in negotiations between lenders and homeowners trying to modify their loan terms.

After over a year of debate in Congress, and private efforts by lenders, no one has come up with the solution to the thorniest part of the problem: Who should take the hit for the trillions of dollars of home equity lost since the credit bubble burst?

“(Customers) keep calling and saying ‘With this bailout, this isn’t helping me at all,’” said McGarry, who is now working with clients trying modify or refinance their loans. “It really and truly is not helping them. If their lender will not agree to settle for less than they owe — even though those lenders are on the list of lenders that will work with you — they still are not working with (the borrower).”

It’s a monumental undertaking that was never anticipated when servicers took on the task of managing these mortgage portfolios. These companies are already struggling to keep up with the volume of calls, and defaults are projected to keep rising. They’re also swamped with calls from desperate homeowners who are falling behind on their monthly payments.


“We have never seen anything this large before; we make 5 million phone calls a month to reach out to borrowers,” said Tom Morano, CEO of Residential Capital, the loan servicing unit of GMAC. “The volume of calls that’s coming in is much higher than it has ever been, and everybody is struggling with that.”

Now, as the spiral of falling home prices is exacerbated by rising unemployment, millions of homeowners who were on a solid financial footing when they signed their loan face the prospect of a job loss that would put them at risk of foreclosure. Some servicers say that’s the biggest wild card in projecting how many more Americans will lose their homes.

“The concern I have is if we have an economy where unemployment gets to 8 or 9 percent,” said Morano. “If that happens the amount of delinquencies is going to be staggering.”

With the latest monthly data showing more than half a million jobs were lost in November, some economists now believe the jobless rate could rise from the current 6.7 percent to top 10 percent by the end of next year.


© 2008 msnbc.com
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28035238/
 

chromaphase

Contributing Member
Shocking stuff.

Looks like this beast of a storm is still offshore. Hang on to something, it's going to be a looooooong night.
 
I still hear people talking about the great buying opportunity and how they're going to go ahead and buy a bigger, nicer house while the market is low. They say they'll worry about selling they're old house later?! Un-freaking-believable.
 

Lostinoz

Inactive
Yep, I was wondering when the next ARM storm would hit. I think they readjust in April? Not sure though. It is definitely not going to be pretty. I guess we will be opening our wallets again, whether we want to or not because "our weakened economy just cannot stand another hit." BLAH.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Related:

Foreclosures seen rising after Nov. drop

Spike expected in January as unemployment increases
The Associated Press
updated 8:22 a.m. CT, Thurs., Dec. 11, 2008

WASHINGTON - The number of American homeowners dragged into the housing crisis fell last month to the lowest level since June as new state laws lengthened the foreclosure process, RealtyTrac reported Thursday.

"We're going to have a pretty significant spike in January," said Rick Sharga, RealtyTrac's vice president for marketing. Plus, as job losses mount, "increases in foreclosure activity follow that pretty directly," he added.

Nationwide, more than 259,000 homes received at least one foreclosure-related notice in November, down 7 percent from October, but 28 percent higher than a year ago, RealtyTrac said.

The report comes as Democrats, including President-elect Barack Obama, insist that the government must use some of the bailout funds to halt rising foreclosures.

Last week, the Mortgage Bankers Association reported that a record one in 10 American homeowners with a mortgage was either at least one month behind on their payments or in foreclosure at the end of September.

RealtyTrac monitors default notices, auction sale notices and bank repossessions. More than 78,000 properties were repossessed by lenders last month, said the Irvine, Calif.-based company.


The worst recession in decades, falling home values and stricter lending standards have ensnared millions of U.S. households. The Federal Reserve predicts that new foreclosures this year will reach about 2.25 million, more than double pre-crisis levels.

In RealtyTrac's report, Nevada, Florida and Arizona had the nation's top foreclosure rates. In Nevada, one in every 76 homes received a foreclosure filing last month. Florida saw one in every 173 properties receive a foreclosure filing, and in Arizona it was one in every 198 homes. Rounding out the top 10 were California, Michigan, Georgia, Ohio, Colorado, Utah and Idaho.

Among metro areas, the Cape Coral-Fort Myers area in Florida was first, with one in every 59 housing units receiving a foreclosure filing. It was followed by Las Vegas, and the California cities of Merced, Modesto and Stockton.


Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28172994/
 

Hokey

Veteran Member
wow....just wow.

It aint' over yet folks.

And don't you like this statement.

Sales commissions on the product were double the rates for conventional mortgages, and she was required to make sure nearly half the loans she sold were "Pick A Pay," she said.

and giving the mortgage industry a bailout for this stupidity is somehow worthwhile? These fricken financial geniuses couldn't see what would happen when these reset? Buncha greedy ba$tard$!!

They shoulda been left to drown in their own mess...
 

Thyme

Under His Wing
Yep, I was wondering when the next ARM storm would hit. I think they readjust in April? Not sure though. It is definitely not going to be pretty. I guess we will be opening our wallets again, whether we want to or not because "our weakened economy just cannot stand another hit." BLAH.

I personally know someone who is losing their home in Feb due to the ARM hit, and another person I know is filing bankrupsty as we speak. I'm hanging on by a thread myself and hope/pray to ride this monster out.
 

mbo

Membership Revoked
So those average out to about 30,000 a month starting about now, for the next two years...


...no worries, the banks will be told to fix the rate at "x", which means they'll take losses on them, which will be picked up by the taxpayers as additional payouts to the lenders.


I love subsidizing stupidity, don't you.


:shr:
 

Lostinoz

Inactive
I personally know someone who is losing their home in Feb due to the ARM hit, and another person I know is filing bankrupsty as we speak. I'm hanging on by a thread myself and hope/pray to ride this monster out.

Hang in there! This is such a tough time. I was amazed at the 1 in 10 estimate for foreclosure or a month behind in payment. I am adding you to my prayer list!
 

genrim

Veteran Member
With 16 years of experience in the mortgage business, McGarry didn’t believe the “pay option” loan was a good deal for most of her customers, so she didn’t promote it.

“I looked at it and I thought: I’m 60 years old. If I were in these peoples’ situation 10 years from now, where would I be?” she said. “Do I want to be in a position that 10 years from now I can’t make this higher payment and I’m forced to make this payment and be forced out of my home? So I wouldn’t do it.”

Her job description included a requirement that she meet a monthly quota of Pick A Pay mortgages, something she said wasn’t spelled out when she was hired. Still, she said, she continued to steer her customers to conventional loans, even though her manager “frequently reminded me that my job requirement was that I do 45 percent of my volume in the Pick A Pay loan.”

In June 2008, her manager wrote a “Corrective Action and Counseling” warning, saying she wasn’t meeting the bank’s “expectation of production.” McGarry soon left Wachovia after finding a job with another mortgage company. On June 30, the bank stopped selling mortgages with negative amortization. In October Wachovia, suffering from heavy mortgage-related losses, agreed to be acquired by Wells Fargo.
Kudos to this fine woman for doing the right thing. :applaud: :applaud:
 
Kudos to this fine woman for doing the right thing. :applaud: :applaud:

yes....sadly she is one in a gazillion as most do not have this nature.

I cannot fathom anyone not getting a fixed rate. Every home I owned, and that has been several - I demanded a fixed rate. This was before I even knew much about anything - even in 1980 (had a 18% note, fixed rate), the Jimmy Carter years!

:shr:
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
Can you say someone somewhere set up these people to fail. My jr high science teacher taught me the 5 W's. Always ask Who, When, What, Where, Why, and How.

The questions we should be asking is:

Who is responsible?
When did they start this?
What did they intend to happen?
Where are the guilty parties now?
Why did they do it? (for money of course, but they HAD to know it would come back to bite them soon!)
How did they get loan companies to go along with it when it's so obviously a flawed system?

Mostly I'd like to find the WHO. It takes some extremely heartless people to knowingly set up so many families to become homeless/bankrupt and cause the entire economy to crash. Those people need to be behind bars, on bread & water! They need to repay every stinking penny they profited from this sham.

Why are our congress men & women not investigating this from top to bottom? Could it be that many of them are part of the "WHO"???
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Those people need to be behind bars, on bread & water!


No, they need to be burned at the stake....
 

TIK

Inactive
They need to be tied up to a freakin' car and dragged. SERIOUSLY greedy people need PAIN to wake up. And "hearing about the troubles" of millions of Americans ain't the kind of pain I'm referring to.

Now--along these same lines--there is ANOTHER real estate crisis on the horizon, but I'm so sorry I can't remember for the life of me what it's called. It has something to do with mortgages--but not ARM-type--that some more well-off people get but they do some rigamorol with it....some kind of creative financing or what not....and now THOSE mortgage.....wait wait wait...IT JUST HIT ME....something called ALT-A mortgages??? I read about this and saw a video on YouTube on it. THESE mortgages are coming due or some kind of something with them.

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeez...what greed is doing to this country. UNBELIEVABLE.
 

Lostinoz

Inactive
sorry where is this bailout money coming from, the taxpayers, how can they afford it

Richard, anytime the government gives handouts, it is the citizens who pay for it through taxes. I believe we are now at the point of my great-great grandchildren paying this debt. I gave up count. This is supposedly a "loan," and the American people will make money on all of this, but I ain't counting on it.

Oh forgot to add, we CAN'T afford it, but it doesn't matter anymore.
 

truthseeker

Inactive
ARM's IMO need to be out lawed.

This was the norm, then you could refiniance before the five years were up and get a good flat rate. But given the interest rates were at long term lows, people should have took the fixed rate right away and not gamble they would be a better rate later on.
 

NC Susan

Deceased
Here is a "WHO"
http://www.philly.com/inquirer/world_us/35949889.html


NANCY STONE / Chicago Tribune, File
Patti Blagojevich , in May, was not charged.







Blagojevich's wife makes a *%?#$&!# splash, too

By Don Babwin
Associated Press
CHICAGO - Gov. Rod R. Blagojevich has some close company in his misery. His arrest this week on corruption charges also shone a spotlight on Patti Blagojevich, his wife and a mother of two. She may have been introduced to the public by profanity-laced tirades as outlined by federal prosecutors, but she already was being investigated for her real estate dealings.
Federal prosecutors Tuesday laid out their allegations of a brazen money grab by the governor, saying he plotted to sell President-elect Barack Obama's vacant Senate seat. And in the criminal complaint against him, his 43-year-old wife emerged as a woman who schemed to cash in on her husband's job and punish those who got in her way.
She has not been charged with any wrongdoing, and she has not spoken publicly since her husband's arrest. Nor did she appear in court with him Tuesday. She did not return calls seeking comment.
According to the complaint, she was the voice in the background spewing an ugly suggestion to "just fire" some newspaper editors if the Tribune Co. hoped for state assistance to sell Wrigley Field, the storied home of the Chicago Cubs.
"Hold up that [expletive] Cubs [expletive]," she says as her husband is talking on the phone. "[Expletive] them."
There she was in full support, according to the complaint, of her husband's suggestion that the price of the governor naming a replacement for Obama's Senate seat include a six-figure seat on a corporate board.
In Illinois, those allegations mark the latest chapter in what may be considered a quintessential Chicago story. Patti Blagojevich is both a businesswoman whose lucrative real estate deals have raised questions about whether her position as first lady helped her make a lot of money, and a key player in a family drama between two powerful politicians - her husband and her father, Richard Mell.
Mell was a powerful Chicago alderman who held a fund-raiser in the late 1980s. Hoping to drum up business for his practice, Rod Blagojevich, then a young lawyer, attended and met Patti Mell. The two married in 1990.
Two years later, Richard Mell used his political connections to get 200 soldiers with the Army's Third Infantry Division to campaign for his son-in-law.
Blagojevich ended up beating a powerful incumbent to win the state representative post, setting in motion a career that would take him to Congress and in 2002 to the governor's mansion.
Patti Blagojevich appeared to know her priorities and would not let working at her real estate brokerage firm interfere with raising the couple's two small daughters.
In a 2005 profile article, she told the Chicago Tribune: "What I put my focus on mostly is the girls. Once you put your focus there, the rest falls into place."
But even before that story ran, she was in the middle of a public feud between her husband and her father that largely stemmed from the governor's shutting down a landfill run by a distant relative of her mother.
Mell was incensed, saying his son-in-law was willing to "throw anyone under the bus."
He also told reporters that his daughter had "blinders on" when it came to the governor and that she would "wake up one day" to see what her husband was really like.
There were whispers that Mell was not allowed to see the family as much as he liked, something Mell seemed to give credence to with a tearful announcement that he wanted to end his battle with Blagojevich.
Until Tuesday, the most recent news stories about Patti Blagojevich have been those that raised questions about her business dealings. In 2005, for example, a published report said she received nearly $50,000 from a real estate deal three years earlier involving Antoin "Tony" Rezko.

In June, Rezko was convicted of using clout with the Blagojevich administration to help launch a multimillion-dollar kickback scheme.
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Adjustable Rate Mortgages (ARMs) are not the problem. The original ARMs as were created by Home Savings of America were outstanding financial instruments. These made available homeownership to a wide array of competent buyers, yet were not destructive as in what we see today. The Robber Barons (Central Bankers) saw the ability to manipulate loan structures copying the original ARMs and were able to change the rules during the Clinton presidency. With the repealing in 1999, of the Glass-Steagall Act, these new ARM instruments evolved.

This Ponzi scheme has proven to be the downfall of the economy. Still it is not because the loans were so very bad (and some are very bad) that the problem exists. It is because borrowers cannot get out of these loans other than to default.

The root cause is in the valuation of Real Estate. With malice intent the lenders were forced (by the Federal Government, no less) to allow value to increase beyond what any sane person could imagine. These illegitimate valuations could not last and failed. When the mortgages began to exceed value, the crash was on. Those who could or would have refinanced into perpetuity were locked out as the amount due exceeded the collateral.

Now there is no way out but to allow the value to hit bottom and bailouts will never be the solution. However, we all know that the bailout is for the purpose of lining the pockets of the BIG bankers and never was intended to resolve the collapse.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I was once told by an accountant who seemed to know what he was talking about that a "fixed rate" mortgage loan more often than not is not "fixed" at all. It depends on the fine print, as there apparently are contract clauses allowing the mortgage holder to raise the rate in certain circumstances. The accountant's claim really surprised me since I thought "fixed" meant FIXED (that is, it can't change), but I know that in law the words don't always mean what common sense tells me that they mean. If in doubt about a mortgage, have a professional look it over and/or if the mortgage holder insists the loan rate really is fixed get that very specific reassurance in writing and signed/dated by a prominent financial official at the mortgage company.

I know nothing about real estate minutiae, so I could be raising a non-issue here. But I thought a warning might be worth passing on to TB2Kers just in case there is any truth to the accountant's claim.
 

notred

Inactive
http://www.housingwire.com/2008/12/...ges-deteriorating-more-rapidly-than-expected/

Fitch: Alt-A Mortgages Deteriorating More Rapidly than Expected
By PAUL JACKSON
December 15, 2008


Citing “a rapid deterioration of U.S. Alt-A RMBS performance,” Fitch Ratings again took the hatchet to its previous assumptions for Alt-A mortgages on Monday morning, revising its surveillance methodology and updating loss projections for all U.S. Alt-A RMBS.

Fitch said it now expects losses on all Alt-A collateral to far exceed the estimates of its ‘moderate stress’ scenario in its late ratings update earlier this year. “Market developments, ongoing home-price declines and loan performance trends in the Alt-A sector over the prior six months have effectively eliminated the possibility of this stress scenario,” said Fitch in a statement.

The rating agency said it now expects average cumulative losses om 2005, 2006 and 2007 vintage Alt-A transactions to hit 2.72, 6.78 and 9.58 percent, respectively, up dramatically from expectations at the agency earlier this year.

Fitch cited a “rapid increase in 60+ day delinquencies experienced over the past six months,” despite servicers’ collective efforts to hold off on actual foreclosure sales — likely implying that a halt to foreclosures is having little effect in resolving borrower delinquencies. Between May and October 2008, Fitch said that 60+ day delinquencies for the 2007 vintage increased from 8.80 percent to 14.65 percent; 2006 and 2005 vintages also experienced steep increases rising from 10.30 percent to 14.24 percent and 6.57 percent to 8.79 percent, respectively.

While delinquencies are continuing to pile up, cumulative losses are not — at least, not yet.. “The small increase in cumulative losses relative to the rising level of 60+ day delinquencies reflects, in part, the lengthening foreclosure/liquidation timeline being experienced throughout all vintages,” analysts at the agency wrote.

All of which means that it’s time to get ready for a whole new slew of downgrades to Alt-A in the coming few weeks. Fitch warned in its note Monday that it expects that it will downgrade many senior bonds to below investment grade — just in time for fourth quarter earnings.

Write to Paul Jackson at paul.jackson@housingwire.com.
 

notred

Inactive
http://www.housingwire.com/2008/12/...ges-deteriorating-more-rapidly-than-expected/

Fitch: Alt-A Mortgages Deteriorating More Rapidly than Expected
By PAUL JACKSON
December 15, 2008

Citing “a rapid deterioration of U.S. Alt-A RMBS performance,” Fitch Ratings again took the hatchet to its previous assumptions for Alt-A mortgages on Monday morning, revising its surveillance methodology and updating loss projections for all U.S. Alt-A RMBS.

Fitch said it now expects losses on all Alt-A collateral to far exceed the estimates of its ‘moderate stress’ scenario in its late ratings update earlier this year. “Market developments, ongoing home-price declines and loan performance trends in the Alt-A sector over the prior six months have effectively eliminated the possibility of this stress scenario,” said Fitch in a statement.

The rating agency said it now expects average cumulative losses om 2005, 2006 and 2007 vintage Alt-A transactions to hit 2.72, 6.78 and 9.58 percent, respectively, up dramatically from expectations at the agency earlier this year.

Fitch cited a “rapid increase in 60+ day delinquencies experienced over the past six months,” despite servicers’ collective efforts to hold off on actual foreclosure sales — likely implying that a halt to foreclosures is having little effect in resolving borrower delinquencies. Between May and October 2008, Fitch said that 60+ day delinquencies for the 2007 vintage increased from 8.80 percent to 14.65 percent; 2006 and 2005 vintages also experienced steep increases rising from 10.30 percent to 14.24 percent and 6.57 percent to 8.79 percent, respectively.

While delinquencies are continuing to pile up, cumulative losses are not — at least, not yet.. “The small increase in cumulative losses relative to the rising level of 60+ day delinquencies reflects, in part, the lengthening foreclosure/liquidation timeline being experienced throughout all vintages,” analysts at the agency wrote.

All of which means that it’s time to get ready for a whole new slew of downgrades to Alt-A in the coming few weeks. Fitch warned in its note Monday that it expects that it will downgrade many senior bonds to below investment grade — just in time for fourth quarter earnings.

Write to Paul Jackson at paul.jackson@housingwire.com.
 

saveamerica

Veteran Member
Richard, anytime the government gives handouts, it is the citizens who pay for it through taxes.
not true! the *ONLY* thing your taxes pay for is the interest on the national debt to the federal reserve bank. all other monies are being created out of thin air.

having said that, the truth is that the loss of purchasing power caused by this massive creation of phoney money *IS* actually a tax we are all paying.
 

Spenglerist

Inactive
Yes, the handouts cause a "tax" through inflation or else an increase in the national debt that simply creates an additional burden on future generations.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
I was once told by an accountant who seemed to know what he was talking about that a "fixed rate" mortgage loan more often than not is not "fixed" at all. It depends on the fine print, as there apparently are contract clauses allowing the mortgage holder to raise the rate in certain circumstances. The accountant's claim really surprised me since I thought "fixed" meant FIXED (that is, it can't change), but I know that in law the words don't always mean what common sense tells me that they mean.

That's why you want to get a mortgage from a "local" community bank - people who have a reputation to protect --- instead of Ditech or some other non-caring, exploiting bunch of criminals who couldn't care less about you or your community.
 

Fleataxi

Inactive
Dennis: Since the banksters brought this on themselves, and have profited to an extreme by their unethical and possibly illegal activities, I suggest the following.

1) NO more forclosures on owner-occupied non-conventional loans - period.

2) NO bailout of ANY financial institution. The FRN's they're holding are worthless anyway.

3) LET the system fail, we'll rebuild again, and hopefully be smarter the next time and NOT let a bunch ofunelected insiders run the country.

It's tough medicine, but it's best for the country in the long run. It's going to happen anyway, and the longer we delay, the worse it's going to be.

Fleataxi
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
We are kinda looking at getting a newer home that has more sq. ft., in an area with better schools, an area that isn't turning into a Section 8 cesspool, etc.. I purchased my home three years ago. I looked at homes in this "must have" area but it was just too much for me to want to spend. However, prices have dropped and they have dropped hard. The value of my home as dropped as well though, but I have so much equity that I will be able to sell it, for a decent loss!!

That being said, with rates now down to 5.5%ish, if you can get a home that is $30-$40K cheaper than three years ago (in bubble areas, we are talking about $100K or so cheaper!!), go for it. People think prices will go down even further, but I think Obama and the other elitists are going to end up screwing folks like me who have saved and didn't live large. All those people with loans represented in the graph _will_ get a bailout. Some of us who did "the right thing" _might_ get a bone tossed our way, say a modification at 5.5%. However, we will never get a reduced equity and even if we did, some of us have so much equity, it won't help us. This will keep prices right where they are. The second thing is the foreclosure aspect. Our area is flooded with foreclosures, but not just $160K+ foreclosures, $70K+ foreclosures. Companies that give Section 8 homes to the ghetto fabulous are buying these homes up. When Obama, Pelosi, and Frank get control of this government, watch for "minority quotas" where poor blacks will be moved into middle class white flight neighborhoods.
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The “Ponzi” scheme now is to have government bailout or acquire the debt of the defaulted loans through acquisition of the defaulted mortgages, which in turn would be conditioned on the bank paying the same to its margin call. The margin calls of course being to the bigger fish up line. Ultimately, the owners of the central banks get some payment of their spread and everyone else dies or are left in place as useful tools. Hence the need for select saving of certain banks.

It will not work to stave off the impending collapse because the other half dozen or so (CDS, Comm. RE, credit cards, Emerging markets and such) debt instruments are defaulting to the tune of 10 % as well. That is ten percent of some 200 trillion or a default of nearly 20 trillion, nearly half the world’s GDP. Is the government going to, as well “bailout,” the gambling debts of stock market gamblers and credit cards? Maybe that is the intent and if they can put Obama into office, they may be able to get these same useful idiots to agree the governments need to protect the poor innocent stock market victims (investors) and credit card victims (users).

All defaulted debt instruments need to be bailed out by governments will be the mantra of the socialist leaders. Clever are those who own the world.
 

Nuthatch

Inactive
Yes, bankers were dirtbags who operated like loan sharks---giving consumers a way to buy more than they could afford.

But those who signed the papers agreeing to the terms bear some personal responsibility. They agreed to a % of their income going to the mortgage and either didn't do or ignored the math re: ARMs changing.

It took both parties and both were greedy.
 

Yours Truly

Veteran Member
Just a little more info to add to the pot ...


American Dream Downpayment Initiative -
Affordable Housing - CPD - HUD:



Summary

The American Dream Downpayment Initiative (ADDI) was signed into law on December 16, 2003. The American Dream Downpayment Assistance Act authorizes up to $200 million annually for fiscal years 2004 - 2007. ADDI will provide funds to all fifty states and to local participating jurisdictions that have a population of at least 150,000 or will receive an allocation of at least $50,000 under the ADDI formula. ADDI will be administered as a part of the HOME Investment Partnerships Program, a formula grant program.


Purpose

ADDI aims to increase the homeownership rate, especially among lower income and minority households, and to revitalize and stabilize communities. ADDI will help first-time homebuyers with the biggest hurdle to homeownership: downpayment and closing costs. The program was created to assist low-income first-time homebuyers in purchasing single-family homes by providing funds for downpayment, closing costs, and rehabilitation carried out in conjunction with the assisted home purchase.


Type of Assistance

ADDI will provide downpayment, closing costs, and rehabilitation assistance to eligible individuals. The amount of ADDI assistance provided may not exceed $10,000 or six percent of the purchase price of the home, whichever is greater. The rehabilitation must be completed within one year of the home purchase. Rehabilitation may include, but is not limited to, the reduction of lead paint hazards and the remediation of other home health hazards.


Eligible Customers

To be eligible for ADDI assistance, individuals must be first-time homebuyers interested in purchasing single family housing. A first-time homebuyer is defined as an individual and his or her spouse who have not owned a home during the three-year period prior to the purchase of a home with ADDI assistance. ADDI funds may be used to purchase one- to four- family housing, condominium unit, cooperative unit, or manufactured housing. Additionally, individuals who qualify for ADDI assistance must have incomes not exceeding 80% of area median income.


Eligible Activities

ADDI funds may be used for downpayment, closing costs and, if necessary, rehabilitation in conjunction with home purchase. ADDI funds used for rehabilitation may not exceed twenty percent of the participating jurisdiction's total ADDI allocation. The rehabilitation assisted with ADDI funds must be completed within one year of the home purchase.
Funding Status

In FY 2007, Congress appropriated $24,750,000 for ADDI. Previously, Congress appropriated $74,513,000 in FY2003 and $86,984 in FY2004, $49,600,000 in FY2005 and $24,750,000 in FY2006. HUD has issued formula allocations for FY 2007 to assist participating jurisdictions in preparing their consolidated plans.


Obtaining Assistance

First, check the formula allocation page to determine whether your local HOME administering agency received ADDI funding. If they did not receive ADDI funding, ADDI funds may be available through your state. Every state received ADDI funds. The contacts for state are available in the HOME administering agency list.


http://www.hud.gov/offices/cpd/affordablehousing/programs/home/addi/
 
Position your self NOW by 'falling' behind a mortgage payment or two. Then look for your 'guberment' bailout.

I don't think so. But, this will cost us, big time.
 
Yes, bankers were dirtbags who operated like loan sharks---giving consumers a way to buy more than they could afford.

But those who signed the papers agreeing to the terms bear some personal responsibility. They agreed to a % of their income going to the mortgage and either didn't do or ignored the math re: ARMs changing.

It took both parties and both were greedy.

yes, absolutely
 
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