HEALTH An Effective Medication Removed from Market (To Protect the Environment)

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Asthma sufferers concerned over new inhalers

At the end of this month, the inhalers that millions of people with asthma use to control their symptoms will no longer be available. Those inhalers can prevent an asthma attack or relieve symptoms once one has begun. The problem is that the inhalers propel the medication with chlorofluorocarbons, which deplete the ozone layer. Effective Dec. 31, drug companies will no longer be able to manufacture or sell the CFC inhalers. "This is the first time that an effective medication has been removed from the market in the USA for an environmental issue," said Dr. Ira Feingold of the American College of Allergy, Asthma and Immunology.

The inhalers are being replaced by non-CFC inhalers. The new inhalers provide the same medicine but with subtle differences. Those differences have some patient-advocacy groups concerned. "The big struggle is not the effectiveness of the drug," said Nancy Sander, founder of Allergy and Asthma Network Mothers of Asthmatics. "The problem is education. There was no plan to inform the patients." The new inhalers use propellants called hydrofluoroalkanes, or HFAs. The three primary differences between the two mechanisms are that the new inhalers:

• Provide a softer spray, which may lead some patients to think they are not getting their correct dosage.

• Need to be cleaned more frequently.

• Are more expensive.

The first two issues should be manageable over time, said Judy Harris, a certified pulmonary nurse practitioner with Phoenix Children's Hospital. "We started the transition at least a year and a half ago," Harris said. "There was some confusion because the inhaler looked different, and it tasted different. But once we talked people through it, there were no problems." Four of Melvina Perez's five children have asthma. "None of my kids have said anything," said Perez, of Phoenix. "The only difference was the color (of the inhaler)."

The importance in the difference in the spray, however, should not be diminished, according to Sander. "The speed at which you inhale has to be very slow and deliberate," she said. "It's a subtle change, but it can be confusing to patients." Sander's organization has received calls from patients who believe they were not receiving the medicine they needed. "This is a big deal when you are needing help trying to breathe," she said.

The cost issue could be the hardest for patients. The Breathmobile is a Phoenix Children's Hospital recreational vehicle that goes from school to school, treating students and informing patients. Nurses on the Breathmobile give away most of their medicine but keep track of the lowest costs for inhalers. They have found that the cost for a generic CFC inhaler is about $22. The cost for a low-priced new inhaler is $35. The new inhalers are available as brand-name drugs only. That means they may be more costly under insurance plans that typically have higher co-pay charges for name-brand prescription drugs than generic versions. It will be years before new generic inhalers are available.

Asthma-advocacy groups, like AANMA and ACAAI, have been urging Congress and the Bush administration to demand that the new inhalers be covered equally by insurance companies. That has not happened yet. A cost increase could be a burden for some families, but Feingold stressed that a patient who is properly managing asthma - with exercise, nutrition and sometimes preventive medicine - should not need to use an inhaler frequently.
A single canister should last months. "If you are going to take a big hit financially, you are doing something wrong," Feingold said. "You should be in better control." The four drug companies that distribute the inhalers - GlaxoSmithKline, Schering-Plough, Teva Specialty Pharmaceuticals and Sepracor - all provide coupons and give-away programs to help decrease costs for patients.

The reason for the change in the inhalers goes back to 1987 and the Montreal Protocol on Substances that Deplete the Ozone Layer. This multinational treaty started the effort to eliminate the production and use of ozone-depleting substances. The CFCs used in inhalers were permitted until now, in part, because their effect on the environment was minimal and in order to give drug manufacturers enough time to develop alternative ropellants. The new inhalers contain hydrofluoroalkanes as a propellant. HFAs do not harm the ozone.

http://www.azcentral.com/news/green/articles/2008/12/03/20081203inhalers.html
 

BigBadBossyDog

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That's pretty old news. The inhalers changed several months ago.

And of course they're more expensive. That's what it's all about. It's bullcrap!
 

Seeker

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I haven't seen them yet (but you're in the health care field, aren't you?) What is your experience with them? Are patients complaining? Are they as effective? Is there any learning curve to using them?
 

Norma

Veteran Member
Well sense we don't have insurance and my husband uses these inhalers the pharmacy sold him enough to last about a year. The pharmasist said the new one don't go deep into the lungs like the old ones. It's all about the drug companines making their big bucks.

Norma
 

Fleataxi

Inactive
Norma: Not only that, but they took a very effective OTC off the market for the same reason. Primetene Mist was a CFC-based rescue inhaler, but the big selling point for preppers was it contained effective dosages of NBC meds.

Once the old ones expire, everyone who bought them to protect themselves against nerve agents will be even more vunerable since you can't get the military injectors.

Fleataxi
 

Seeker

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This is the statement that sets my hair on fire: ". . . their effect on the environment was minimal".
 

peachfuzz

fuzzy member
I have slight asthma, and I notice a BIG difference. I don't get the same clearing in my lungs from the new medicine. I tried a different one and it was just as bad. I feel for the people who really depend on this stuff to breathe.
 

eXe

Techno Junkie
Norma: Not only that, but they took a very effective OTC off the market for the same reason. Primetene Mist was a CFC-based rescue inhaler, but the big selling point for preppers was it contained effective dosages of NBC meds.

Once the old ones expire, everyone who bought them to protect themselves against nerve agents will be even more vunerable since you can't get the military injectors.

Fleataxi

Actually you have until 2011 till they yank Primetene in its current form off the market. The FDA Gave them that long (I got the info off the FDA site) to change the propellant. The epinephrine however will STILL be in Primetene, just a different propellant. I use the stuff on occasion for my dog allergies and it works like a charm. I dont have dogs, but many friends do.. and if I know I will be in their houses I bring it along.

I have been stockpiling these since 2006 when they suggested a ban. Probably have well over 200 of them now.. and no.. they dont go bad. The one I have currently "expired" in 1999.. still works if I have to be around dogs.

The good news is they WILL have a replacement for it.. and for the little bit I need it, it will most likely work for me.
 

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Primetene Mist was a CFC-based rescue inhaler, but the big selling point for preppers was it contained effective dosages of NBC meds.

Fleataxi, would you elaborate on this, please? Is it something we need to add to our first aid supplies, since eXe posted that its still available? Thanks.
 

eXe

Techno Junkie
I can sorta answer.. heh

Epinephrine is used for emergency treatment for life threatening allergic reactions. It also has been used for treatment of Sepsis (AKA blood poisoning)

Some have said in the past that it has a similar effect to that of Atropine (Which is usually used in an auto injector pen form, to help protect/recover after a chemical attack) but I am not so sure about that.
 
I've been an asthmatic for 35 years, and I can tell you that these inhalers do not blow because you have to suck. In otherwords, they suck because you have to suck.

Here's the deal; when you are having an asthma attack your having difficulty getting air into your lungs. The old inhaler was great because it blew the medicine down into your lungs with very little effort on your part. These new inhalers don't have the same punch, therefore you have to suck harder. So, they have put a medicine on the market that is supposed to help you breathe but you have to be breathing well to take it in the first place.

Furthermore, they are far more expensive. $45 for a one month supply vs. $12 (or $4 if you go through Walmart). Add to that, the fact that you end up wasting half of it because you can't get it down in your lungs to begin with.

Not only that, but for those who still want that extra punch...Primatene mist is the only one left. The problem is Primatene mist is about as effective for an asthmatic as an aspirin is for someone who just broke their hip.

This is the biggest crock of fertilizer I have ever seen. To hell with people, save the environment from one of biggest lies ever perpetrated on the global community.

From taxing cow farts to take medicine away from people that need it, it should be painfully obvious that something somewhere has gone terribly wrong with the way some people's brains work (or don't work).
 

Dare7

Inactive
I concur with Kickapoo. One of my daily inhalers is a powder that I have to breathe in through a teensy mouthpiece and the medicine doesn't get anywhere near my lungs if I'm not capable of power suck mode.

The importance in the difference in the spray, however, should not be diminished, according to Sander. "The speed at which you inhale has to be very slow and deliberate," she said. "It's a subtle change, but it can be confusing to patients.
Confusing? Gee, ya think? The stuff barely makes it past the front of your tongue unless you are able to inhale as deeply as person without breathing problems. Slow & deliberate -- yep, tell that to someone who's frantically shaking their emergency inhaler, desperately gasping for any air at all & about to pass out.

In anticipation of these changes, my pulmonologist has been prescribing chambers to his inhaler patients. Besides the added expense, that presents a different set of problems -- getting the caps off, shaking the inhaler & inserting it into the chamber correctly while turning blue is not for the faint of heart or breath -- but at least you can get the full benefit of the medication with the initial spray and you know if you're inhaling properly based on the tube whistling or not ... so the chambers are worth it compared to the alternative cost of wasted meds.

Now my daughter (whose younger son has asthma) & I have to start carrying purses or something similar for the express purpose of transporting emergency breathing equipment. I haven't hauled extra baggage since 1993 and DD never has ... Instead of tucking the inhalers discreetly into a pocket, we also need these big a$$ round plastic tubes (DGS's requires a mask) because his & the other two of my new & improved inhalers "mist gently" into our mouths without the power sucking or using the chamber.

Worse still, I have to carry an antiseptic mouthwash, too, as the over-priced-brand-name-formula of one of the inhalers carries the risk of an oral yeast infection if my mouth & throat are not thoroughly cleansed promptly after use, particularly since I have a bridge and a partial ... damn greenies ... I'm almost 56 frickin' years old and have to worry about getting an infant's disease (thrush) over something that wasn't hurting anything to begin with ...
 

readerb

resident read-a-holic
I've tried the new inhaler & its horrible. Went back to the dr to see about getting a refill on the old albuterol inhalers.. and dang it, if the refill wasn't for the same dam stuff. In a red container.. can't recall the exact name, but when I got to the pharmacy & saw that the refill was this new crap again - I told them to keep it, that what they're trying to force on us is going to kill people. Pharmacist says, 'you got that right'. *things that make you go hmmm*

Thanks for the heads-up that this is the LAST month to get the old inhalers.. I'm going to call that DR (again) & INSIST on the old albuterol inhaler 1 more time.. while I can. I also spoke to my sister about this (a nurse) & she recommended to me to get a nebulizer if I can't get anymore of the albuterol..
 
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