OT/MISC Gawd how I'd hate to be one of the masses right now!

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I'm sitting here reading about the (potential) impending collapse of the US economy, as well as other world powers becoming ever-more arrayed against us. How glad I am that I've been a member of TB2K all these years, and taken part in all the TEOTWAWKI discussions. At least I/we are mentally and emotionally (at least somewhat) prepared for what's happening. The shock to "Joe Sixpack" and family must be horrific. I can only imagine how terrified they are, having never thought about the various scenarios that have been discussed on TB. For them, it has to be as awful as facing an onrushing semi-truck.

I thank God for this place, and for all of you who have worked so diligently over the years to talk about these issues, and to help MANY thousands of others via your efforts.

May we all be fortunate enough to emerge on the other side.....
 
As much as the masses don't get it, I sometimes wonder if we get it too much. What I mean is, I have a feeling people like "us" (those who even consider these possibilities) probably tend to expect the absolute worse.

I suspect reality is usually an average of the two. At least that's my prayers. :)
 

nanna

Devil's Advocate
Sheesh, even though I been expecting this forever I'm still shocked, so I can't imagine the disconnect. Well, maybe I can, that's my job :)


nanna
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Yes Dennis, Thank God for TB2K and Everyone Here! It Has Been Good!

Also Thankyou Dennis for ALL that You have done for TB2K. God Bless!
 

windsail

"Montani Semper Liberi"
I'm sitting here reading about the (potential) impending collapse of the US economy, as well as other world powers becoming ever-more arrayed against us. How glad I am that I've been a member of TB2K all these years, and taken part in all the TEOTWAWKI discussions. At least I/we are mentally and emotionally (at least somewhat) prepared for what's happening. The shock to "Joe Sixpack" and family must be horrific. I can only imagine how terrified they are, having never thought about the various scenarios that have been discussed on TB. For them, it has to be as awful as facing an onrushing semi-truck.

I thank God for this place, and for all of you who have worked so diligently over the years to talk about these issues, and to help MANY thousands of others via your efforts.

May we all be fortunate enough to emerge on the other side.....

Astute dude......most astute.....great observation for we few who gather here.....fortunate are we........three fingers single malt.....here's to Dennis.........windsail......
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Went to COSTCO tonight to pick up some last minute items and a bit more preps and NOBODY, NOBODY AT ALL WAS PREPPING OR REACTING TO THE CRASH BY STOCKING UP. NOBODY AT ALL.

I tried to tell people, I talked to about 20 people and I got that body language reaction from them that "I don't want to hear it, I don't believe it." ONLY ONE PERSON....an eighty year old lady said: "These people have no idea whatsoever what is coming. They have not woken up yet." She too feared and dreaded the social upheaval and horrible times we both knew were coming.

Even my own grandson has tired of hearing about it. I told him after he came home from High school that the market dropped again today and he said "there's nothing I can do about it". He was more upset about an expected "jam session" tonight that his friends cancelled unexpectedly. Until they can actually SEE "what's it to ME?" how it affects HIS LIFE, he doesn't care. They just don't ponder a thought, turn it over in their minds and consider all the potential consequences.. Young people are NOT deep thinkers nowdays. If it isn't perfectly obvious without thinking, they are blindsided by things they shouldn't be, had they ever sat down and really thought about what was going on around them.
 
Dennis,

A sincere thank you for all you have done to keep this place open for us "doomers". I have a DGI DW and just being able to come here to TB2K and realize that there are other people in the world who think like me has kept me sane since before Y2K. Since Y2K I have tried to understand why so many people fight so hard against taking personal responsibility for keeping their family and loved ones safe and secure in a SHTF situation (I still don't have an answer). I thank everyone who has contributed to this forum over the years for their sincere and knowledgeable advise. As we go forward into the events yet to unfold, I say a Christian prayer (while this is still allowed) that you keep your powder dry, your aim straight, and your friends in your heart. God Bless and Peace - ST1
 
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Hfcomms

EN66iq
Agreed. Even for those of us who know these days are coming, have expected it and prepared for it. Yet it can still be disconcerting to see it happening even though you knew the day would come. I reckon back to over 15 years ago thinking that perhaps we had only a year or so before things would totally fall apart.

For those who have been in denial all these years and have not seen it coming the fear will not only be palpible but for many totally debilitating. I wouldn't want to be a police officer in the days just ahead. About time to hunker down and go to a minimal footprint. From here on out you don't want to stick out in a crowd. For those of us who are believers remember that God has it all under control. And for everybody remember that calm, rational and logical thinking is the order of the day as this spreads to those around you. Panic also spreads and were about to see a lot of that in this country.
 

FlyLadyFan

Inactive
Tomorrow I will (hopefully) take my family out to a nice restaurant for another
"last supper". I've done that twice already in the last month, each time thinking it may be our last chance to be out and about and spending 'extravagantly'. We get big desserts, the works.

FLF

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Chartreuse

Yellow Solar Sun
I think there are both good and bad aspects to being this aware.

On the one hand, I am thankful that I'm not going through the shock a lot of the sheeple are. I have known and accepted for most of my life that the world as we know it can end very quickly, so as I watch this all unravel, I'm not suffering from stress brought on by sheer disbelief.

On the other hand, I've known and accepted for most of my life that the world as we know it can end very quickly, so I have an uncomfortable awareness of what these events might mean, and how bad it might get.

I wouldn't trade places with one of the sheeple for anything, but at the same time, I have to acknowledge that ignorance does bring a certain amount of bliss. I've been extremely tense the last few weeks, but some of the sheeple I know have been having the same great time as always, with their lives just going on as normal.
 

Norma

Veteran Member
A big thank you to Dennis and all that have contributed to this forum. This place has been a safe haven for many of us.

Norma
 

Deena in GA

Administrator
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Thank you, Dennis, and each and every one of you who have made this site as informative as it is and has been over the years! I'm finding that even some people I know who do "get it" don't want to hear or see how bad it is now. Have to admit that I did NOT plan to come here today at all. Wanted to get away from it for a while, but I just couldn't stay away - only held out for an hour or so this morning, lol.

I am SO grateful for all the prepping advice and information I've gathered here over the years - and so sorry that we haven't done more.
 

adgal

Veteran Member
It's nice to be able to feel a sense of calm when the world is falling apart around you. I know that we certainly don't have everything I'd like to have - and there are some things that I wish we had been able to do. But, I know that I can feed my family, restock my pantry with a garden next year, have heat for cooking and warmth and mentally and spiritually withstand what is before us.

I am grateful for all of you - TB2K friends and neighbors - but mostly, I'm grateful to God who has warned us and all we needed to do was listen and obey.

God Bless You All.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm sitting here reading about the (potential) impending collapse of the US economy, as well as other world powers becoming ever-more arrayed against us. How glad I am that I've been a member of TB2K all these years, and taken part in all the TEOTWAWKI discussions. At least I/we are mentally and emotionally (at least somewhat) prepared for what's happening. The shock to "Joe Sixpack" and family must be horrific. I can only imagine how terrified they are, having never thought about the various scenarios that have been discussed on TB. For them, it has to be as awful as facing an onrushing semi-truck.

I thank God for this place, and for all of you who have worked so diligently over the years to talk about these issues, and to help MANY thousands of others via your efforts.

May we all be fortunate enough to emerge on the other side.....


Yes, Thank You Dennis for a place to come and thanks to everyone for making it a safe haven for emotional stability in the face of things to come.
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
I tried to tell people, I talked to about 20 people and I got that body language reaction from them that "I don't want to hear it, I don't believe it." ONLY ONE PERSON....an eighty year old lady said: "These people have no idea whatsoever what is coming. They have not woken up yet." She too feared and dreaded the social upheaval and horrible times we both knew were coming.

I understand what you mean. In the spring of 07 my 95 yo dad told me he sees a depression coming. He seen it happen in the 30's and now he sees it happening again. In a way he's a DGI cause he doesn't see the big picture, he only sees that people are spending money they don't have. He doesn't see hyperinflation coming, he sees a depression coming. I don't think he realizes that our gov is living off "China welfare". After all, he is in his 90's and doesn't keep up with the financial reports of today.

I tried to tell DD what's coming and her answer is: "I don't want to hear it, I don't want to know what's coming". :shr: She KNOWS cause I've been telling her for 2 years! Do DGI's think that if they don't acknowledge it, then it won't effect them or do they honestly think big bro will bail them out? They can only ignore it so long... when the dog starting chewing on their leg, they'll have to acknowledge that there's a real dog out there.
 

ShakinSouth

Inactive
I am SO grateful for all the prepping advice and information I've gathered here over the years

Amen to that. If it had not been for this place, I wouldn't have known how important prepping is. Y'all keep topping off. It's not too late yet...keep on keeping on. One day at a time.
 

Y2kO

Inactive
I am grateful for all of you - TB2K friends and neighbors - but mostly, I'm grateful to God who has warned us and all we needed to do was listen and obey.

God Bless You All.

Ditto that and thanks to Dennis for such a great job with TB2K.

an eighty year old lady said: "These people have no idea whatsoever what is coming.

That's right. Most don't have a clue. None of us knows in total what's coming but, at least, we've got some idea of the possibilities and have done our best to prepare for them.
 

nharrold

Inactive
I'm sitting here reading about the (potential) impending collapse of the US economy, as well as other world powers becoming ever-more arrayed against us. How glad I am that I've been a member of TB2K all these years, and taken part in all the TEOTWAWKI discussions. At least I/we are mentally and emotionally (at least somewhat) prepared for what's happening. The shock to "Joe Sixpack" and family must be horrific. I can only imagine how terrified they are, having never thought about the various scenarios that have been discussed on TB. For them, it has to be as awful as facing an onrushing semi-truck.

I thank God for this place, and for all of you who have worked so diligently over the years to talk about these issues, and to help MANY thousands of others via your efforts.

May we all be fortunate enough to emerge on the other side.....

I wonder if Ed is listening and watching....
 

nharrold

Inactive
Agreed. Even for those of us who know these days are coming, have expected it and prepared for it. Yet it can still be disconcerting to see it happening even though you knew the day would come. I reckon back to over 15 years ago thinking that perhaps we had only a year or so before things would totally fall apart.

For those who have been in denial all these years and have not seen it coming the fear will not only be palpible but for many totally debilitating. I wouldn't want to be a police officer in the days just ahead. About time to hunker down and go to a minimal footprint. From here on out you don't want to stick out in a crowd. For those of us who are believers remember that God has it all under control. And for everybody remember that calm, rational and logical thinking is the order of the day as this spreads to those around you. Panic also spreads and were about to see a lot of that in this country.

I read your comments and those above concerning DGIs with a bit of resignation. Why? My wife is a WNGI (Will NEVER Get It). She won't believe it's happening even WHEN it's happening. If someone walked up to the house and shot me or one of the dogs, she would still be in denial.

I will never, ever understand that type of attitude. Just have to work around it, and let the chips fall where they may. Sometimes I wonder what I did in a prior life to deserve this karma???
 

nharrold

Inactive
I understand what you mean. In the spring of 07 my 95 yo dad told me he sees a depression coming. He seen it happen in the 30's and now he sees it happening again. In a way he's a DGI cause he doesn't see the big picture, he only sees that people are spending money they don't have. He doesn't see hyperinflation coming, he sees a depression coming. I don't think he realizes that our gov is living off "China welfare". After all, he is in his 90's and doesn't keep up with the financial reports of today.

I tried to tell DD what's coming and her answer is: "I don't want to hear it, I don't want to know what's coming". :shr: She KNOWS cause I've been telling her for 2 years! Do DGI's think that if they don't acknowledge it, then it won't effect them or do they honestly think big bro will bail them out? They can only ignore it so long... when the dog starting chewing on their leg, they'll have to acknowledge that there's a real dog out there.

My WNGI wife tells me that if I keep talking about it, I'm gonna make it happen. How's that for logic....????
 

Jean B

Inactive
My heart beats with all ya'll are saying. Dennis, thank-you. This board has made sense when the other sources out there did not. I believe it has saved lives.

I do know, I sleep better at night because the post on this board has made me face the truth of where our blessed country is really heading and encouraged me to prepare.

God Bless America.
 

rmomaha

The Wise Man Prepares
I'm not sure that the masses "get it" even yet. It's coming though...bet your bottom dollar...it's coming.

No, they don't get it. I am amazed at the people I work with. They act like this is just going to blow over and they can continue on their merry way. We know different though. Call it insight from a Higher Power or whatever, we know that dark days are ahead and one must have an iron constitution to survive them.
 
we

are all part of the 'masses' right now.


all the preps in the world and all the hidey hole's some may have dug will not prepare more than 1/5 of 1% from what is coming.

just be strong, and be prepared to persevere, and do what is necessary.

if you want you and yours to carry one in the next world.

it is now upon US. and it will get so much worse over the next 3 years, and then in the fourth, maybe, the next great turning of this world.

what a time.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
You all have helped me keep my sanity for a very long time. I'm in the same boat as nharrold, its my hubby who will not get it. He liked to leave up his excel file on what he had been making with his TSP (gov 401). Now, for a few months he usually makes sure he blinks it out so I dont see it. He left it up tonight. Some of those funds have lost 25-36% since Jan. And he thinks I'M the kook?

I made a sorta final run to wallys today, went to costco yesterday. Spent about 500$ altoghether-I wasn't too astounded at the jumps in prices, but it sure put a dent in the amounts I could buy. I do want some more beans though so will go when the snow is over and get a couple more big bags. (the little car barely fit everything I got at wallys so it was good I didnt get them today) I thank the good Lord that He put it into my heart to do this for the last few years, I know and understand that it all may not be for me and mine but for someone else who He sends along, I accept that possibility completely.

The sense of community I feel here is one of great comfort to me since there really isn't anyone I can talk to here. Unique is here, but she's busy with her kids and morman "mission" so I don't bother her too much. Besides, I'm sorta white trashy and she is definately not. :lol:

And I decided tonight that it was definately "over" for the country when I got my beautiful new wheat grinder from Bitterroot Tool and Machine in Stevensville, MT. (called a GrainMaker officially) I can now grind wheat, corn, beans, anything I want. I might have to knead it with my feet (THAT really grosses Timbo out for some reason :lol: but if they are clean, whats the prob? :shr: ) With the arthritus sending my fingers and thumbs off into differing directions than they were originally designed for, there isn't much I can do about it. And I bless that man there in Stevenville who helped me to get it. I'll be posting in the prep or homemaking forum a review when I finally get to grind something. I also got my new kraut "stomper" today, too. That is a good piece of equipment I've been lusting for for a while. (from wisemen trading). So I'm set.

I have everything I need except a willing partner.
Sigh.
 
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Sky

Inactive
Hi Everyone,

Dennis, thank you for starting this thread. ;) Sitting here reading everyone's posts really makes me stop and think.

People are starting to GET it. My sister rarely even watches the news and even she is starting to GET it

I am thankful to be a member of TB2K. Just joined in Sept ;)



~Sky
 

momof23goats

Deceased
Of course your right Dennis, I can't imagine being 6 pack joe, with a family to feed, and the bottom dropping out, and he is just barely scrapping by now.
We have talked about every kind of thing that could happen on here, what to do, what to get , what to keep in your preps, and indeed why to prep at all.
We are blessed. Now we will see how well we are prepped, and it will probably occur to us, what else we should have got, sooner rather than later.
 

newpatriot

Inactive
The shock to "Joe Sixpack" and family must be horrific. I can only imagine how terrified they are, having never thought about the various scenarios that have been discussed on TB. For them, it has to be as awful as facing an onrushing semi-truck.
Joe Sixpack is not really cognizant of the threat yet. When he fully understands, everything is going to break down very quickly.
 

Stormy

Inactive
So true, Newpatriot! The stores are still open and stocked, the TeeVee is still running, McDonalds is open, 7-11 is open, and they can still get gas. Many of those things may change soon, and I am very grateful I had the good fortune to stumble upon this board about ten years ago.

From Timebomb I have learned invaluable information that I put to use. I have made many wonderful, lifelong friends here along the way. I have lost a few as well, but learned the lesson that they weren't worth keeping anyway.

I have been blessed to help out a few fine folks on this forum, and I am certainly thankful for the ability to have done so. We Are Indeed Our Brother's Keeper!

Now that the times we have talked about for years and prepared for seem to truly be upon us, I thank Dennis for his perseverance in keeping this board up and going no matter what! It is no secret that many detractors and haters have tried to bring it down.

But, 'Ya Can't Keep A Good Man Down! And that man is Dennis Olson. Folks, stay close to God, your family and other loved ones. Be thankful for every comfort you now enjoy - clean water, good food, heat, A/C, a good bed to sleep in, the love of your dear pets and appreciate every single minute of it.

Godspeed to All, Stormy
 
I, too, feel very indebted to Dennis, as well as the administrators, past and present, who work hard, without pay, to keep this board up. At times, it must seem like a thankless job, but you'll never know how comforting it is to have a "home" with like minded people, all of whom are willing to share their knowledge with the rest of us.

I've been a member of this board, before Y2K, andd am so grateful for the information shared by so many people, on how to prepare for the worst. Even tho Y2K turned out to be a blip, thankfully, I kept all the items I bought, to weather the storm, and am so glad I did. Freeze dried food keeps a long time, in a cool basement, and the lamps, grill, charcoal, Dutch ovens, candles, washboard, stocks of necessaries are still waiting for a time when they might make life a little easier.

TB2K has been a shelter in a port, with the storm threatening. I cannot thank you, enough, Dennis, for being our Captain!

By the way, I bet you're glad you started the campaign early, this year, to raise funds to keep this board running--did you ever reach your goal?
 

Biloxibad

Contributing Member
Went to COSTCO tonight to pick up some last minute items and a bit more preps and NOBODY, NOBODY AT ALL WAS PREPPING OR REACTING TO THE CRASH BY STOCKING UP. NOBODY AT ALL.

I tried to tell people, I talked to about 20 people and I got that body language reaction from them that "I don't want to hear it, I don't believe it." ONLY ONE PERSON....an eighty year old lady said: "These people have no idea whatsoever what is coming. They have not woken up yet." She too feared and dreaded the social upheaval and horrible times we both knew were coming.

Even my own grandson has tired of hearing about it. I told him after he came home from High school that the market dropped again today and he said "there's nothing I can do about it". He was more upset about an expected "jam session" tonight that his friends cancelled unexpectedly. Until they can actually SEE "what's it to ME?" how it affects HIS LIFE, he doesn't care. They just don't ponder a thought, turn it over in their minds and consider all the potential consequences.. Young people are NOT deep thinkers nowdays. If it isn't perfectly obvious without thinking, they are blindsided by things they shouldn't be, had they ever sat down and really thought about what was going on around them.


Yep MTV has it right, their average attention span is only 12 seconds for serious stuff ( like commercials) and 2.3 seconds for images... Makes my head spin.. :boohoo:
 

Ambleside

Senior Member
Thanks Dennis for all your work and thanks to all who have shared their knowledge and insight. My friends and family all thought me crazy for the prepping I've been doing. This included buying a property out in the mountains.

As someone else said, I have a sense of peace that I had this chance to prepare.

Again, just thanks.

Steve
 
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