BRKG DRUDGE-WASH TIMES Friday Obama Secretly tried to sway Iraqi Government

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Per Drudge... http://www.drudgereport.com/

WASH TIMES Friday: Obama secretly tried to sway Iraqi government to ignore Bush deal on keeping troops in Iraq... Developing...

I'm not posting this so much in glee for him being skewered for this (though it is pleasing), but rather, TS is HTF big time tonight! There is SO MUCH going on right this moment, somethings going fly off this wagon...:shkr:
 

Breeta

Veteran Member
I think you're right! Way too much going on. (Although unlike you, I am smiling with glee that he's been exposed, if this is true - and Drudge's headlines usually pan out.).

I'm going to get my hair cut right now, and I expect major changes by the time I get back!
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
I hope he is exposed, but the media controls everything and there may be NOTHING mentioned; the situation with the economy will bury anything against him on page 5.

There has been alot exposed about Obama over the past many months; I've received numerous e-mails concerning him; but never have I ever seen any of the stuff in the media. He is the media's darling and it is going to stay that way.

No one ever mentions the kind of people who surround him, his connections to Fannie Mae, etc. I fear for the kind of change he will bring if elected.
 

kemosabe

Doooooooooom !
Ya I remember reading about this ... close to a month ago and wondered WHY IN THE BLOODY H-E double-hockey-sticks nothing ever became of it ...

I am VERY POSITIVE it would be considered TREASON ..

Undermining the United States efforts in Iraq for your own political gains...
YES ... A VERY TREASONOUS P.O.S. ...
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
WEll perhaps not TREASON, but CERTAINLY a violation of the Logan Act....


About effin TIME the MSM found this.....
 

kozanne

Inactive
Drudge is gettin' slow in his old age? This is not new news....but nobody made a big deal of it then.
 

Zinnia

Constancy
"Ya I remember reading about this ... close to a month ago and wondered WHY IN THE BLOODY H-E double-hockey-sticks nothing ever became of it ..."



I read about it also,several times-wondered then why Drudge did'nt post about it.

Could be he just wanted to be sure of all the facts.

I've noticed that some of the worst things about Obama are coming out in the last few days while most people are distracted,understandably so,by this entire economic disaster.

Obama either has the luck of the devil,or.......

something else that makes me go,hmmmm....?
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
WEll perhaps not TREASON, but CERTAINLY a violation of the Logan Act....


About effin TIME the MSM found this.....


Exactly. But it's clear that Barry Soetoro is either ignorant of or just doesn't care about the Logan Act. He was meddling with Kenyan elections from his Senate office a couple of years ago.

This Soetoro guy appears to be a serial felon.
 

Fisher

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The liberal media may be turning on Obama.

I've seen several examples today.

A few minutes ago I saw a thread about Lou Dobbs going after ACORN bigtime on CNN tonight.
 

expose'

The Pulse......
The liberal media may be turning on Obama.

I've seen several examples today.

A few minutes ago I saw a thread about Lou Dobbs going after ACORN bigtime on CNN tonight.

Yes..I saw that too..But be carful when it appears that the media is finally covering an unfavorable story on Obama...:rolleyes: They have a habit of releasing these gems just for the purpose of neutralizing them - then making them go away..:shk:

If the media brings up the stories that have been buzzing all over the net..they own them and can spin them as they wish. The public believes that something is finally being done about the offenses and go on with their lives..:rolleyes: While the media quietly shoves the story under the rug....

But....With all of the bad news reported today about Obama.....something is up..:confused: If you add this story about Iraq...:hmm: This would be way too much to neutralize... Maybe the left is turning against him for some reason..but I can't imagine what would be so bad that they couldn't spin or side with their guy...

I know the ACORN investigation is bad for him..but they (the dems and media) spun that off during the last presidential elections..so it shouldn't be a tough one for them to put out again...Unless - our current economic problems could be directly tied to ACORN, Barney Franks and Obama...
Then there's the Ayers, thing, The birth certificate thing, The comment about the USA not intervening in the Holocaust thing, .....:shr: Maybe it's something that the media has caught wind of but we haven't heard yet..?
 

seven.sixtwo

Inactive
The liberal media may be turning on Obama.

I've seen several examples today.

A few minutes ago I saw a thread about Lou Dobbs going after ACORN bigtime on CNN tonight.

The Washington Times is hated by the left. they are the Fox News of Newspapers.
 

cjoi

Veteran Member
The liberal media may be turning on Obama.

I've seen several examples today.

A few minutes ago I saw a thread about Lou Dobbs going after ACORN bigtime on CNN tonight.

IMHO, the few commentators who are allowed to present the truth are just serving to vent off the frustration of people who still possess their ability to see what's real and true... The venting makes us feel better but prevents anything constructive from being done.
 

momof23goats

Deceased
are we sure this isn't an act of treason? he does not speak for the country just yet. I think he could get into plenty of hot water here.
 

BigBadBossyDog

Inactive
He lies his way out of everything. I've never seen anything like it. He simply opens his mouth and denies whatever it is, and life goes on. I swear, I've never seen anything like it.
 

Quicksilver

Infidel
Your right Oilpatch Hand, a violation of the Logan act of 1799.

The Logan Act is a United States federal law that forbids unauthorized citizens from negotiating with foreign governments. It was passed in 1799 and last amended in 1994. Violation of the Logan Act is a felony, punishable under federal law with imprisonment of up to three years.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

oops, i meant night driver.....my bad
 

mt4design

Has No Life - Lives on TB
When the story was first floated, Obama denied it and that was that. No MSM picked it up and dug deeper.

It wont be so easy for him to run from it this time.

Mike
 

Mr. Mayor

Formerly the Mayor
THE STORY IS ONLINE

Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal
Barbara Slavin
EXCLUSIVE:

At the same time the Bush administration was negotiating a still elusive agreement to keep the U.S. military in Iraq, Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama tried to convince Iraqi leaders in private conversations that the president shouldn't be allowed to enact the deal without congressional approval.

Mr. Obama's conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate's contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war.

Some of the specifics of the conversations remain the subject of dispute. Iraqi leaders purported to The Times that Mr. Obama urged Baghdad to delay an agreement with Mr. Bush until next year when a new president will be in office - a charge the Democratic campaign denies.

Mr. Obama spoke June 16 to Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari when he was in Washington, according to both the Iraqi Embassy in Washington and the Obama campaign. Both said the conversation was at Mr. Zebari's request and took place on the phone because Mr. Obama was traveling.

However, the two sides differ over what Mr. Obama said.

"In the conversation, the senator urged Iraq to delay the [memorandum of understanding] between Iraq and the United States until the new administration was in place," said Samir Sumaidaie, Iraq's ambassador to the United States.

He said Mr. Zebari replied that any such agreement would not bind a new administration. "The new administration will have a free hand to opt out," he said the foreign minister told Mr. Obama.

Mr. Sumaidaie did not participate in the call, he said, but stood next to Mr. Zebari during the conversation and was briefed by him immediately afterward.

The call was not recorded by either side, and Mr. Zebari did not respond to repeated telephone and e-mail messages requesting direct comment.

Mr. Obama has called for a phased U.S. withdrawal of all but a residual force from Iraq over 16 months, a position the Iraqi government appears to have embraced.

U.S. and Iraqi officials have been struggling for months to finalize a deal that will allow U.S. troops to remain after Dec. 31, when a U.N. mandate sanctioning the military presence expires. Iraqi officials have said that the main impediment is agreement over a timeline for U.S. redeployment and immunity from Iraqi prosecution for U.S. troops and civilians.

Obama campaign spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Mr. Obama does not object to a short-term status of forces agreement, or SOFA.

Mr. Obama told Mr. Zebari in June that a SOFA "should be completed before January and it must include immunity for U.S. troops," Miss Morigi wrote in an e-mail.

However, the Democratic nominee said a broader strategic framework agreement governing a longer-term U.S. presence in Iraq "should be vetted by Congress," she wrote.

She said Mr. Obama said the same thing when he met in July with Iraqi Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki and Mr. Zebari in Baghdad.

A recent article in the New York Post quoted Mr. Zebari as saying that Mr. Obama asked Iraqi leaders in July to delay any agreement on a reduction of U.S. troops in Iraq until the next U.S. president takes office.

Miss Morigi denied this. She said the request for Senate vetting was bipartisan and noted that the first Obama-Zebari conversation took place 12 days after four other members of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee - including Republican Sens. Richard G. Lugar of Indiana and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska - wrote to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice and Defense Secretary Robert M. Gates urging consultation over any agreements committing U.S. troops and civilian contractors to Iraq "for an extended period of time."

When Mr. Obama spoke to Mr. Zebari, he was speaking in his capacity as a senator and a member of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, Miss Morigi said. "It's obvious that others are trying to mischaracterize Obama's position, [but] on numerous occasions he has made it perfectly clear that the United States only has one president at a time and that the administration speaks with one voice."

Sen. Jack Reed, a Rhode Island Democrat who accompanied Mr. Obama in Iraq along with Mr. Hagel, said they made "no suggestion of any type of delay" in any agreements.

A congressional aide who was also present and spoke on the condition of anonymity said the senators asked for a congressional role similar to that required by the Iraqi Constitution for Iraq's parliament.

Still, the fact that the Illinois Democrat on June 3 clinched enough delegates to be assured the Democratic presidential nomination gives his comments special force - something that also applies to the Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain of Arizona, a key proponent of the surge of extra U.S. forces to Iraq last year.

As a U.S. senator, Mr. Obama "has a foot in both camps," said Ross K. Baker, a professor of political science at Rutgers University. "It's within the jurisdiction of his committee and something he's entitled to speak about. It doesn't raise a red flag for me."

White House spokesman Gordon Johndroe declined to comment on the matter.

Leslie Phillips, a press officer at the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad, also declined to comment even though an embassy note-taker was present during the senators' meeting in Iraq. "The embassy's role is purely to facilitate the meetings," she said.

Presidential nominees traditionally have not intervened personally in foreign-policy disputes, although campaign surrogates have done so.

Historian Robert Dallek has documented meetings with South Vietnamese diplomats in 1968 by Republican vice-presidential candidate Spiro Agnew and Anna Chennault, widow of Gen. Claire Chennault, the commander of "Flying Tiger" forces in China during World War II.

Mr. Dallek, author of "Flawed Giant: Lyndon Johnson and His Times 1961-1973," obtained tapes of the conversations from bugs the Johnson administration had placed in the South Vietnamese Embassy in Washington.

Negotiations to end the Vietnam War were taking place in Paris at the time between the Johnson administration and the North and South Vietnamese.

Mr. Agnew and Mrs. Chennault "signaled the South Vietnamese that they would get a better deal with Richard Nixon as president instead of the Democrat" Hubert Humphrey, Mr. Dallek said.

"Johnson was furious and said that Nixon was guilty of treason," Mr. Dallek said, but neither he nor Mr. Humphrey disclosed the matter before the election, which Mr. Nixon won.
http://washingtontimes.com:80/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/
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AGENCE FRANCE-PRESSE/GETTY IMAGES HOT SEAT: Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama meets with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani in Baghdad in July
 

seven.sixtwo

Inactive
i hope rush, beck, hannity, laura and Fox News pick up this fast. what this man did was illegal and his orgy loving, in-the-tank media will NOT mention this story. If anything, they will spin it away like they have done to EVER other shady thing he did or is doing.
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
i hope rush, beck, hannity, laura and Fox News pick up this fast. what this man did was illegal and his orgy loving, in-the-tank media will NOT mention this story. If anything, they will spin it away like they have done to EVER other shady thing he did or is doing.
It turns out to be simply another lie from that congential liar Sarah Palin.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.co...sk-to-delay-security-agreement-iraqi-fm-says/
BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did not urge Iraqi officials to delay a decision on a security agreement with the United States, Iraq's foreign minister told CNN on Sunday.

The statement by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari refutes a recent published report and a statement by Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin that Obama tried to influence Iraqi politicians negotiating with the United States to score political points.

Obama "never, ever discouraged us not to sign the agreement," Zebari said. "I think this was misrepresented, and I have clarified this case in a number of interviews back in the United States recently."


The Washington Times reported Friday that in June, Obama told Iraqi leaders in Baghdad that an agreement between the United States and the leaders to allow U.S. troops to stay in the country after 2008 should not go into effect unless it had congressional approval.

The newspaper quoted Samir Sumaidaie, the Iraqi ambassador to the United States, about a June 16 telephone conversation between Zebari and Obama.

But the article did not contain a comment from Zebari.

The campaign of Obama's Republican rival, Sen. John McCain, argued that Obama's call interfered with U.S. efforts to reach a "status of forces agreement" with the Iraqi government. The United States and Iraq have yet to announce an agreement despite numerous reports that one was near.

During a Friday fund-raiser in Madeira, Ohio, Palin said Obama tried to influence the negotiations "in a way that would set back America's cause there, while advancing his campaign here."

Filed under: Barack Obama • Iraq • Sarah Palin


don
 

Wardogs

Inactive
Sarah Palin didn't invent this story, nor did she lie about it.

Zebari himself is the one who first said it and did so on several occasions.

His "clarifications" never included a denial that it happened, look it up.

This story first came out in mid Sept. and was actually confirmed by Obama's camp, although they spun it.

He said he didn't say this at the meeting where others were present, but that was never the place where it was said it happened. It was in a phone conversation with Zebari that took place before Obama left on his trip. The story in the Washington Times is making that clarification.

The original:

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
By AMIR TAHERI
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0915200...tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm
Last updated: 2:34 pm
September 16, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am
September 15, 2008

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.


Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
****************

This story was followed by several back and forth's between the Obama camp and Amir Taheri, but Zebari never withdrew his original statement.

Calling Palin a liar, or attributing the story to her when this story was published by two news sources, (and carried by dozens more) shows more about your honesty than hers.
"congenital liar" would seem to apply more to CNN and whoever wrote this story.
wardogs
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Sarah Palin continues to lie and lie and lie.

She is trying to best the record held by GW Bush.

While she has a long way to go in a short time she is making headway.

The good thing is as she speaks Obama's lead increases.

McCain seems to be seeing the reality in this campaign, as the crazies react to Palin the moderates turn to Obama.

Keep up the wild assed lies Sarah:)


don;)
 

adgal

Veteran Member
Sarah Palin didn't invent this story, nor did she lie about it.

Zebari himself is the one who first said it and did so on several occasions.

His "clarifications" never included a denial that it happened, look it up.

This story first came out in mid Sept. and was actually confirmed by Obama's camp, although they spun it.

He said he didn't say this at the meeting where others were present, but that was never the place where it was said it happened. It was in a phone conversation with Zebari that took place before Obama left on his trip. The story in the Washington Times is making that clarification.

The original:

OBAMA TRIED TO STALL GIS' IRAQ WITHDRAWAL
By AMIR TAHERI
http://www.nypost.com/seven/0915200...tried_to_stall_gis_iraq_withdrawal_129150.htm
Last updated: 2:34 pm
September 16, 2008
Posted: 4:02 am
September 15, 2008

WHILE campaigning in public for a speedy withdrawal of US troops from Iraq, Sen. Barack Obama has tried in private to persuade Iraqi leaders to delay an agreement on a draw-down of the American military presence.

According to Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari, Obama made his demand for delay a key theme of his discussions with Iraqi leaders in Baghdad in July.

"He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington," Zebari said in an interview.

Obama insisted that Congress should be involved in negotiations on the status of US troops - and that it was in the interests of both sides not to have an agreement negotiated by the Bush administration in its "state of weakness and political confusion."

"However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open." Zebari says.


Though Obama claims the US presence is "illegal," he suddenly remembered that Americans troops were in Iraq within the legal framework of a UN mandate. His advice was that, rather than reach an accord with the "weakened Bush administration," Iraq should seek an extension of the UN mandate.

While in Iraq, Obama also tried to persuade the US commanders, including Gen. David Petraeus, to suggest a "realistic withdrawal date." They declined.

Obama has made many contradictory statements with regard to Iraq. His latest position is that US combat troops should be out by 2010. Yet his effort to delay an agreement would make that withdrawal deadline impossible to meet.

Supposing he wins, Obama's administration wouldn't be fully operational before February - and naming a new ambassador to Baghdad and forming a new negotiation team might take longer still.

By then, Iraq will be in the throes of its own campaign season. Judging by the past two elections, forming a new coalition government may then take three months. So the Iraqi negotiating team might not be in place until next June.

Then, judging by how long the current talks have taken, restarting the process from scratch would leave the two sides needing at least six months to come up with a draft accord. That puts us at May 2010 for when the draft might be submitted to the Iraqi parliament - which might well need another six months to pass it into law.
****************

This story was followed by several back and forth's between the Obama camp and Amir Taheri, but Zebari never withdrew his original statement.

Calling Palin a liar, or attributing the story to her when this story was published by two news sources, (and carried by dozens more) shows more about your honesty than hers.
"congenital liar" would seem to apply more to CNN and whoever wrote this story.
wardogs


+1000
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Right:lol:

The Iraqi was obviously lying when he said it was not true.

BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) – Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama did not urge Iraqi officials to delay a decision on a security agreement with the United States, Iraq's foreign minister told CNN on Sunday.

The statement by Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari refutes a recent published report and a statement by Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin that Obama tried to influence Iraqi politicians negotiating with the United States to score political points.

Obama "never, ever discouraged us not to sign the agreement," Zebari said. "I think this was misrepresented, and I have clarified this case in a number of interviews back in the United States recently."



Lie Sarah Lie:lkick:


don;)
 

Wardogs

Inactive
Lie Don lie...

It's not the first time Zebari has called Obama a liar.

In fact, the Obama camp admitted it was true when it first came out saying that it was just the Strategic Framework Agreement that they meant.
But since the two agreements are intertwined, (you can't have one without the other) it was spin as usual.
Implying that Palin made it up is ridiculous.

Ridiculous, but just like you to do so....

Obama Aide Says He Asked For Iraq Delay
http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5hi9TDNHvuBZpFsO8ZbiFYsnbIl3A

PUEBLO, Colorado (AFP) — Barack Obama’s White House campaign angrily denied Monday a report that he had secretly urged the Iraqis to postpone a deal to withdraw US troops until after November’s election.

In the New York Post, conservative Iranian-born columnist Amir Taheri quoted Iraqi Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari as saying the Democrat made the demand when he visited Baghdad in July, while publicly demanding an early withdrawal.

“He asked why we were not prepared to delay an agreement until after the US elections and the formation of a new administration in Washington,” Zebari said in an interview, according to Taheri.

“However, as an Iraqi, I prefer to have a security agreement that regulates the activities of foreign troops, rather than keeping the matter open,” Zebari reportedly said.

The Republican campaign of John McCain seized on the report to accuse Obama of double-speak on Iraq, calling it an “egregious act of political interference by a presidential candidate seeking political advantage overseas.”

But Obama’s national security spokeswoman Wendy Morigi said Taheri’s article bore “as much resemblance to the truth as a McCain campaign commercial.”

In fact, Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

In the face of resistance from Bush, the Democrat has long said that any such agreement must be reviewed by the US Congress as it would tie a future administration’s hands on Iraq.

“Barack Obama has never urged a delay in negotiations, nor has he urged a delay in immediately beginning a responsible drawdown of our combat brigades,” Morigi said…

What is very telling here is that, unlike the usual practice, this press release has not been picked up by our watchdog media stateside.

This story is only being reported by the AFP and a few Middle Eastern outlets.

Why is that?

We suspect it is because Ms. Morigin’s statement exactly confirms that yes Obama did seek to delay the negotions with Iraq:

Obama had told the Iraqis that they should not rush through a “Strategic Framework Agreement” governing the future of US forces until after President George W. Bush leaves office, she said.

Taheri reported that Iraqi President Jalal Talabani's advisers wonder if Obama is privately working to delay troop withdrawal until after the election in order to claim credit – should Obama win the presidency – for ending the war.

"Indeed, say Talabani's advisers," reports Taheri, "a President Obama might be tempted to appropriate the victory that America has already won in Iraq by claiming that his intervention transformed failure into success."
 

CRodgers

אני תומך
Gut feeling here, but I highly doubt anything will come of this. Just like Obama being an illegal alien.

It's the Government's mantra of cover-up "Nothing to see here, move along."
 

Linda Davis

Contributing Member
Just recv. this from a friend.........


SEAN HANNITY, OF HANNITY & COLMES ~ FOX NEWS,

IS GOING TO AIR A VERY IMPORTANT DOCUMENTARY ABOUT BARACK OBAMA,
SUNDAY NIGHT AT 9:00 PM.

HE STATED ON THE AIR THIS EVENING THAT NO ONE IN THE NEWS MEDIA WAS WILLING TO DO THIS.

HANNITY IS GOING BACK TO OBAMA'S EARLIER DAYS, SHOWING EVEN THEN HIS TIES TO RADICAL PROFESSORS, FRIENDS, SPIRITUAL ADVISERS, Etc.,

HE STATED THIS EVENING THAT HE WILL SHOW IN DETAIL HIS TIES TO REV. WRIGHT FOR 20+ YRS (which we all know) HOW HE WAS PARTICIPATING WITH THIS MAN, AND NOT FOR THE REASONS HE STATES!
HE HAS UNCOVERED MORE OF OBAMA'S RADICAL LEADERS AND WE WILL SEE THINGS THAT NO ONE IN THE MEDIA IS WILLING TO PUT OUT THERE.

THIS WILL BE A NIGHT THAT YOU WILL KNOW MORE ABOUT OBAMA THAN EVER BEFORE.
HANNITY IS VERY PASSIONATE ABOUT THIS PROGRAM AND ASKED THAT EVERYONE PLEASE, PLEASE WATCH~~
SUNDAY NIGHT, 9 PM.
 

CRodgers

אני תומך
I pray something comes of this but again my gut says it will be ignored by the people who should be seeing it and doing something about it.

Going to watch for sure.
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
I pray something comes of this but again my gut says it will be ignored by the people who should be seeing it and doing something about it.

Going to watch for sure.
God doesn't always answer your prayers the way you think is the best.

I always pray that His Will be done.

The electorate seems a bit more skeptical of the Swift Boat tactics this election.

Or is it the media that does investigate and expose the lies from the neocons this year?

In any event all of Sarah's neocon claims continue to be exposed as the fabrications and outright lies that they are.


don
 

Wardogs

Inactive
God doesn't always answer your prayers the way you think is the best.

I always pray that His Will be done.

The electorate seems a bit more skeptical of the Swift Boat tactics this election.

Or is it the media that does investigate and expose the lies from the neocons this year?

In any event all of Sarah's neocon claims continue to be exposed as the fabrications and outright lies that they are.


don

How sad that you are so consumed with hate for Bush, Palin and "neocons" (whatever the hell that means...) that you would ignore the real liars out there...

You know that Palin didn't make this up, she had nothing to do with it other than to expose it. The Washington Times story quotes other Iraqi sources as well and explains the contortions that Obama is going through trying to negate the truth.

Obama tried to sway Iraqis on Bush deal
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2008/oct/10/obama-sought-to-sway-iraqis-on-bush-deal/

"...Mr. Obama's conversations with the Iraqi leaders, confirmed to The Washington Times by his campaign aides, began just two weeks after he clinched the Democratic presidential nomination in June and stirred controversy over the appropriateness of a White House candidate's contacts with foreign governments while the sitting president is conducting a war..."

"...Mr. Obama spoke June 16 to Foreign Minister Hoshyar Zebari when he was in Washington, according to both the Iraqi Embassy in Washington and the Obama campaign. Both said the conversation was at Mr. Zebari's request and took place on the phone because Mr. Obama was traveling...."

"...In the conversation, the senator urged Iraq to delay the [memorandum of understanding] between Iraq and the United States until the new administration was in place," said Samir Sumaidaie, Iraq's ambassador to the United States.

He said Mr. Zebari replied that any such agreement would not bind a new administration. "The new administration will have a free hand to opt out," he said the foreign minister told Mr. Obama.

Mr. Sumaidaie did not participate in the call, he said, but stood next to Mr. Zebari during the conversation and was briefed by him immediately afterward.

The call was not recorded by either side, and Mr. Zebari did not respond to repeated telephone and e-mail messages requesting direct comment..."
**********************

So now, according to CNN, Zebari is denying it?

While someone is obviously lying, it sure isn't Palin as she made her statements before the so called denial by Zebari.

Considering Obama's track record with the truth, I'd put my money on him...

But the facts have never mattered to you in the past, so I'm not too surprised that they don't matter now either...
wardogs
 

kozanne

Inactive
Wardogs, no matter what you say, it will be 'lie Sarah lie, blah blah blah'......

But, at least you are putting out what is recorded as having happened. Just keep puttin' her out there and ignore the pre-recorded loop messages.
 
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