Why you might WANT to vote for Obama

Mr. Mason

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The way I see it, it's going to be a disaster whether Obama or McCain wins but you might could make an arguement that Obama will cause less damage to the county than McCain, here's why.

Let's say Obama is another Jimmy Carter. Carter was a bad, but we survived and went on to elect Reagan.

But McCain will be a disaster that never ends. See McCain and his pal Lindsay Graham WILL give ammnesty to 30 million illegal socialists from Mexico, and they will be here FOREVER.

Obama is black and blacks and hispanics do not exactly get along. If Obama supported ammnesty for illegals, he would be seen as a traitor by his own people. For this reason, Obama is much less likely to give citizenship to illegals than McCain.

And I repeat again, in 4 years we will be able to get rid of Obama and elect someone else, but you will NEVER be able to undo what McCain is going to do if he is elected.

But there's more...

Obama is a democrat. Now I'm a conservative and generally don't agree with the democrats on much of anything, however, democrats tend to pander to the unions. Now I don't like unions either, but I do agree with the unions on one thing. NAFTA SUCKS! The democrats close ties with unions menas Obama is less likely to expand NAFTA, North America Union, the Amero, etc.
McCain on the otherhand things NAFTA is a good thing.

And more...

Mexian gangs are literally taking over our cities. McCain (and the Republicans) do not hide the fact that they are trying to pander to hispanic voters. McCain is unlikely to crack down on Mexicans gangs taking over our cities for fear of being branded a 'racist'. Obama on the otherhand is immune to being called a racist because he's black and the blacks are bearing the brunt of the Mexican gangs violence. Obama will be much more likely to crack down on the Mexican gangs to protect "his people" than McCain.

With the economy in the shape it's in, the democrats are unlikely to be able to get any significant tax increases through congress. So the biggest threat from Obama (massive tax increases) is unlikely to happen.

Last but not least, I'm from the South. I know black people, I grew up with black people, we eat the same foods, speak the same language, and share a common history. Whites and blacks may not agree on a lot of things, but we have been living among each other for 200+ years. Whites and blacks are much closer culturally than whites or blacks are to spanish speaking socialist Mexicans.

To sum it up, this country can survive Obama. McCain I'm not so sure about.
 

AR15ER

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Sorry Ron, I disagree on all accounts. Either one will just continue sending this nation down hill.

They are just different sides of the same coin.

O will let the illegals stay just like Mc will.

Notice how Bill Clintoon signed NAFTA?

The game is up, they have all been pushing the same agenda for years now, they just have slight variations on the same theme.

There is no real choice.
 

CelticRose

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Let's see........... Just off the top of my head .........

Jimmy Carter de facto GAVE the Panama Canal over so that it's now under the control of th Chinese.........

Jimmy Carter was in office when 52 US citizen were held hostage for 444 days by Iranian fanatical freaks ........

Maybe ya'll might want to rethink that Obama-man might cause less damage to out nation.
 
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can't hardly disagree more.


"But McCain will be a disaster that never ends. See McCain and his pal Lindsay Graham WILL give ammnesty to 30 million illegal socialists from Mexico, and they will be here FOREVER"


NOPE. they are going to be heading home in droves as this thing gets worse and Americans start getting really nasty for the first time in 50 years.


There is no more normal, not anymore, and everyone will see that 6 months from now.


I think the 'o' man has quite a few messianic and fascist tendencies. He also spent his wonderbread years in Indonesian and Kenya, both dictatorships, and Kenya was exceptionally violent with the other 'tribe'.


You think blacks are going to play 'nice' while Rome burns? 70% of the males have prison or jail records already. What happens when the welfare checks and food run low?


Obama DID attend a violently racist church for 20 years that G_d Damned America.

His wife has only been proud of the USA once in her life.

Obama DOES have marxist ties.

Do I need to go on? I don't want a marxist who grew up in totalitarian dictatorships allied to the most violent and crime ridden segment of this society when this ship starts to tilt.

And it will tilt, badly. We can only hope it doesn't go down.
 

cracka

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Your idealism is pleasant, but much worse will happen with Obama in office (IMHO). The fact that I'm calling you an idealist for posting "that", just demonstrates the gravity of the situation all the more.

Nice, but unlikely.

c
 

Infoscout

The Dude Abides
I agree with you in theory, but.......

I can not vote for any politician that supports gun control. Not only does he support HR1022, but he also has stated he does not support concealed carry, and does not support a citizen using deadly force. I cannot vote for him because of this.

the other thing is this, the Democrats control the legislative branch of DC, if a Democrat is in the Whitehouse, then their whole platform will be made into law. With Mccain, at least nothing will happen, which might be preferable.

No matter what each man promises, it has to go through congress, with Obama that is going to happen, with Mccain probably not.

Look at the platforms, look at what they stand for, make your choice!
 
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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Besides, when Obama can't QUALIFY (per the Constitution) then you get Biden who will SERVE AS POTUS until the legislature decides HOW to SELECT a president and then we go about doing it.....
 

BigBadBossyDog

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To be honest, I've never heard what Obama's stand on illegials is. I pay as little attention to him as possible, and I guess I've just missed it.

What is his stand on illegals?
 

Green Co.

Veteran Member
from Obama's web-site:

Bring People Out of the Shadows
Obama and Biden support a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.

from McCain's web-site:

Assure that the remaining undocumented immigrants learn English, pay back taxes and fines, and pass a citizenship course as part of a path to legal status.

Dragonslayer2001:

NOPE. they are going to be heading home in droves as this thing gets worse and Americans start getting really nasty for the first time in 50 years.

DS, that belief is a farce. I work around these folks daily, and to a man, they say they will never go back to Mexico, El Salvadore, Belize, Nicaragua, Dominica unless forced onto the bus. All say they can live better here out of the dumpsters, than they can live at home.
 

kozanne

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Let's say Obama is another Jimmy Carter.

Well, while you're so positive we'll survive, I for one will never forget what my family and I lost as well as about 30,000 people in my hometown during the freaking Carter administration. Lost jobs, homes, worried about food, heat, how we would feed our kids. Families moving in together just for a roof over their heads. DH and I took in a young couple with a little infant boy. They were living on hot dogs and Cream of Wheat -- and she worked full time as a dental assistant.

Go thru that just ONCE and you'll understand why that statement of yours about Jimmy Carter makes me want to sit down and cry. And please, assure me that the sheeple mentality currently in force today will just sit there and reassure themselves when they start experiencing the same kind of losses.
 

BoatGuy

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Evil by any other name is still Obama.

You're idea is a non-starter with me, RG. For all the things he "might" not screw up, in four years, he'll be able to find (or start) many new things to cause us grief. And I, for one, would rather shoot myself in the head than to put his name on a ballot.
 

Grantbo

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Obamma: :fl2::fl2:
McCain: :fl2:
Either way this country is soon to hit rock bottom.
The good news is that there will be a lot of patriots around to reestablish the constitution as it has been written.
 

Trek

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Now I don't like unions either, but I do agree with the unions on one thing. NAFTA SUCKS! The democrats close ties with unions menas Obama is less likely to expand NAFTA, North America Union, the Amero, etc.

I believe you are wrong on most of your post because you are following the Obama talk instead of watching his walk.

But about NAFTA... It was a DEMOCRAT who pushed it into action. I will NEVER forget that Clinton solidified NAFTA in what I consider to be an act of treason against the American Workers. Within 6 months of that piece of trash legislation over 30 families I know lost their primary income when the factories closed up shop and went overseas.

As NAFTA currently stands, thanks to the Democrats, we are importing trash from around the world without being able to export on an equal playing field. McCain wants to change NAFTA to even the playing field so that our nation can begin exporting at a profit once again & bring work back to American soil.

That one simple fact undermined your entire post in my eyes. At the time NAFTA kicked in I was a blue collar as blue collar can get. By the time I made the change over to so-called white collar employment I found NAFTA even sent my potential jobs overseas.

If Obama was actually a democrat he would only worsen the situation. Since he is more along the lines of a globalist - he is guaranteed to cause this country to lose more jobs. Whatever jobs he manages to create will be painfully below a living wage. Just like the Clinton years.
 
Green Co.

It is not a farce and time will tell. This country is in for hardships like you can't believe, and once the jobs are gone, the free handouts, the foodstamps, the almost free housing, and the free births are gone,


AND A VERY PISSED OFF POPULACE TAKE MATTERS INTO THIER OWN HANDS,


as I am very sure they will, shortly, the illegal invaders will find that once political correctness is gone and unenforceable, they will find this no safe haven.

THEY and you are used to the old America. The new America started in September, and within 6 months you won't recognize it anymore.

And btw, a mere smattering of obama's talks and you realize he is as a globalist as the rest of them.

Some here like to claim that none of my speculations have come true. Au contraire. Many have come to pass now.


I think and am sure that this country will no longer welcome illegal invaders in a very short time, and the timid American will soon be gone to be replaced by tens of millions who have lost everything and will no longer be in the mood to see what is left being enjoyed by people who shouldn't be here.

Not an advocation, but a historical reality that you will soon see come to pass.
 

seven.sixtwo

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4 years of Carter gave us Reagan. Perhaps this country need this nazi to wake up. 2 years of Obama and the country will want "real change"...that's when Sarah Palin comes in ;-)
 

Jackpine Savage

Veteran Member
the other thing is this, the Democrats control the legislative branch of DC, if a Democrat is in the Whitehouse, then their whole platform will be made into law. With Mccain, at least nothing will happen, which might be preferable.

The Democrats could end up with a super majority in the senate. They could do anything they please.

I think this country does run better with divided government.
 
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