CRIME Another ACORN voter fraud event...

Wardogs

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Yes, I put this under the crime heading because that's just what it is.

The latest report on the Democrat-allied activist group comes from Connecticut. Nice to know that they're branching out past the battlefield states.

Also new is the excuse: "right-wing operatives." No, not that we're doing it, but that we're bringing this stuff up. Apparently, it's partisan to be concerned about election fraud. This is now the 11th state in this election alone that has ongoing criminal investigations into ACORN.
wardogs

ACORN's voter registrations questioned

By KEN DIXON
Staff writer
Article Last Updated: 10/07/2008 11:37:59 PM EDT
http://www.connpost.com/ci_10661361?source=most_viewed

HARTFORD -- The State Elections Enforcement Commission has opened an investigation into allegations that a community activist organization submitted at least 10 false voter-registration cards in Bridgeport.

One of the phony registrations was for a 7-year-old girl in the Marina Village housing complex, whose age was listed as 27 on the voter card.

Another registration came from a man who later said he couldn't have completed the voter card purported to be his because he was in jail on the date of the document.

Joseph J. Borges, the city's Republican registrar of voters, filed the complaint with state officials after months of local complaints on the tactics that ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, was regularly filing applications that were ruled ineligible.

In response, a Bridgeport leader of ACORN on Tuesday night called the charges "part of a concerted and coordinated campaign by conservatives and the GOP to attack and discredit ACORN." The charges date back to the summer, when the Connecticut Post reported that ACORN applications were flooding the registrar's office and resulting in excessive extra hours of research to check their authenticity.

"We have many more complaints," Borges said Tuesday, adding that the 10 are just highlights. He said he went to Marina Village personally and interviewed the 7-year-old.

"I talked with the guardian and said I was just trying to verify the name and the girl came down the stairs," Borges said, adding that the Social Security number was different and the youth was definitely not 27, as indicated on the voter card.

ACORN filed more than 8,000 voter cards in the city during its registration drive, but Borges said the piles of cards are riddled with duplicates and false information that was found by him and his staff.

Borges submitted evidence including the registration of a Stratford woman who said she was "pressured" into completing a card with a Bridgeport address. Another registration contained two voters registration forms with different signatures for the same person.

"We have three boxes of returned letters, with no such address, no such name," Borges said. "It's crazy."


On his complaint, Borges said the flood of ACORN-generated voter cards "has put a strain on my office and jeopardizes our ability to enter legitimate registration cards."

Nancy S. Nicolescu, director of communications for the SEEC, confirmed Tuesday that the commission took the complaint, but declined further comment.

"The only thing I think we can say is we've received it, it's been docketed, and it's under investigation," she said.

When the issue first broke over the summer, ACORN officials said that at least one employee was fired for trumping up voter registrations.

Emeline Bravo Blackwood, chairwoman of the East End ACORN chapter in Bridgeport, said in a statement Tuesday night that she is "proud" of the local and statewide drives that have registered 20,000 new state voters.

"It is shameful that partisan, right-wing operatives -- who are clearly afraid of our ability to bring low-income people to the polls on election day -- are more interested in slinging trumped-up allegations at ACORN than in working with us in our campaigns to stop foreclosures and predatory lending, win paid sick days, raise the minimum wage, and make sure that low-income, working families have a seat at the table in our democracy," she said.
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That's right you scum sucking frauds.

It's "shameful" that we insist on a proper election....

How many of these "workers" graduated from "Camp Obama"?

Remember, these are the folks that the Democrats wanted to give 20% of the bailout to...$140 Billion dollars!!!

When are these people going to jail?
 

Kalliope

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Hmmm...so the guy admits that he is illegally compiling a caging list, seems ACORN has a counter suit for real fraud.
 

Chocolatier

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Hmmm...so the guy admits that he is illegally compiling a caging list, seems ACORN has a counter suit for real fraud.

ACORN is committing the "real fraud" but I don't expect you to see that. You did save me the trouble of paging you, though.

Paging Kalliope! Diversion needed in aisle 5!
 

Wardogs

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Hmmm...so the guy admits that he is illegally compiling a caging list, seems ACORN has a counter suit for real fraud.

Oh yes, PLEASE try a defense like that. Keeping records of illegal voters is NOT a caging list.

That would be more like Obama's phony early notification scam for his VP announcement giving him cell numbers for over 3 million voters which he now uses for direct contact.


You liberals are truly pitiful.

Rampant fraud going on and you still try and deflect.
wardogs
 
One of the phony registrations was for a 7-year-old girl in the Marina Village housing complex, whose age was listed as 27 on the voter card.


So, anyone think that this 7 year old 27 year old will be voting for the old wrinkly white haired guy?

I don't.

We need picture I.D. on voter cards.
 

Chocolatier

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Kalliope, are you really fine with ACORN fraudulently registering a 7-year old girl as a 27 year old? Really? If so, you might get yourself checked. Being a dissociative sociopath is something you'd want to treat...
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
ACORN has been implicated in voter fraud schemes in Washington, Missouri, Ohio and at least 12 other states.
 

Wardogs

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And the next ACORN election fraud story comes to us from Milwaukee...

Been happening a lot lately, no?

Let's pressure the democratic leaders to acknowledge the voter fraud convictions and demand that these leaders denounce Acorn. Failure to denounce will result in more demands that they do so. We will be in a win, win. If they denounce, we stress Obama's connections. If they don't, we stress voter fraud and Obama's connection. Either way, Obama = voter fraud. By the way, should we also ask Jimmy Carter to monitor?

Felon accused of voting violations
Man charged with illegal registrations

By LARRY SANDLER
lsandler@journalsentinel.com
Posted: Oct. 7, 2008
http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=803756

Milwaukee County prosecutors Tuesday charged a convicted felon with illegally registering himself and others to vote between his conviction and his sentencing.

The complaint accuses Adam Mucklin, 22, of registering to vote in June, after he was convicted of battery in April, and after a judge told him he couldn’t vote as a convicted felon. Later in June, Mucklin signed up to work as a paid voter registrar for the Community Voters Project, something else he couldn’t do as a convicted felon, the complaint says.

A recent opinion from the staff of the state Government Accountability Board says no one convicted of a felony can ever serve as a registrar, a stricter standard than the previous interpretation that registrars only had to be eligible to vote.

Under Wisconsin law, felons can’t vote until after they have completed their sentences and are off probation or parole. For Mucklin, that would not be until Jan. 10, 2012, the complaint notes.

He is serving his battery sentence in the Dodge Correctional Institution in Waupun, the complaint says. If convicted of both election-related counts, he could be sentenced to up to seven more years in prison and fined up to $20,000.

49 workers suspected

Mucklin was among 49 voter registration workers who were referred to the Milwaukee County district attorney’s office by the Milwaukee Election Commission on suspicion of election fraud. He is the second to be charged.

Last week, the district attorney’s office charged Endalyn Adams, 21, with submitting registration cards with dozens of fake names to meet what amounted to a quota from the Community Voters Project. Some of the false names were flagged by voters project leaders before the cards were turned over to the Milwaukee Election Commission; those names were never added to the voter rolls, and the rest have been removed.

In another five cases, investigators found insufficient evidence of fraud. The rest remain under review, said Assistant District Attorney Bruce Landgraf, who filed the charges against Mucklin and Adams.

Virtually all the workers under scrutiny were employed by either the voters project or by the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now. Those groups were among several politically liberal organizations that launched massive voter registration drives in Milwaukee in advance of the Nov. 4 election.


As with Adams, leaders of the voters project and ACORN say they caught much of the fraud and alerted authorities before handing in the registration cards. The groups also say the cases represent a small percentage of the dozens of workers and tens of thousands of voters signed up.

Republicans have focused on the fraud charges to press their case for tighter voting rules, including photo identification for voters. Democrats have countered that investigations have found no evidence of widespread or organized vote fraud, and they argue that photo ID requirements would discourage some legitimate voters.

At a news conference, Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett said he was doing everything possible to ensure a fair and clean election.

Reince Priebus, chairman of the state GOP, said the city should be pushing the state for more extensive checks on voters.
 

vessie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Branching out is an understatement I tell ya, ACORN is most best described as a 'fungal bloom'. V
 

adgal

Veteran Member
Emeline Bravo Blackwood, chairwoman of the East End ACORN chapter in Bridgeport, said in a statement Tuesday night that she is "proud" of the local and statewide drives that have registered 20,000 new state voters.

"It is shameful that partisan, right-wing operatives -- who are clearly afraid of our ability to bring low-income people to the polls on election day -- are more interested in slinging trumped-up allegations at ACORN than in working with us in our campaigns to stop foreclosures and predatory lending, win paid sick days, raise the minimum wage, and make sure that low-income, working families have a seat at the table in our democracy," she said.

:sht: :sht: :sht:
 

Wardogs

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Branching out is an understatement I tell ya, ACORN is most best described as a 'fungal bloom'. V

But no one is talking about it, at least in the major media.

OK, for a couple of months the Republicans have pushed the ACORN story — calling it a corrupt, radical organization that operates through voter fraud to disrupt American democracy, destabilize our financial system, agitate against business, blah blah, etc. But no one has noticed except a few bloggers.

Just this week the State Attorney General raided ACORN in Nevada and discovered how prevalent their voter fraud operation is. The FBI is expected to get involved. It was posted on this board, but it's just the tip of the iceburg...

Separately, the GOP started painting a picture of Obama's campaign donations. He's been extremely secretive. In a bit of Marxist doublespeak, the Obama campaign is saying it is the most transparent campaign ever, (like the most ethical congress....) but won't provide a list of its donors, destroyed Obama's Illinois legislative files, won't provide his health records, etc. The more we learn about his small donors, the more questions we have about foreigners trying to sway the American democratic system.

And then there is the McCain campaign. It has gone zealously after Bill Ayers' connection to Obama. Ayers hired Obama to run the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, after launching Obama's political career in his living room.

Bill Ayers, in applying for the Annenberg Challenge grant, said the purpose of the money would be to radicalize students to agitate for change. Who did he put in charge of the program? Barack Obama.

Who did Obama give the money to?

ACORN and other radical groups as well as friends and supporters.

And the separate plots begin to connect. The ACORN narrative, the Ayers narrative, the foreign donor narrative — they intersect, combine, tangle, and paint a very ugly picture of Barack Obama

What Obama did on the board with the Annenberg money and what he'd do with your money come in to the narrative.

The next month is going to be tumultuous and fun because this will be pushed hard by the McCain campaign....(it's already started)

The "October Surprise" just may be that there is no surprise. It's been in front of us all along. Only now the various story lines are getting connected.

If only someone will notice....
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lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
We ALL need to send this information to our local radio & television stations. The MSM won't touch it cause it exposes their golden boy. The local stations might eat it up and publicize it to the point that it can't be covered up any longer. At the very least it would get the word circulating at least a little more than it is now. Many people don't have the net, but they listen to local radio. They need to know what's going on.
 

Wardogs

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Wow...
Fox just did a 6-7 minute piece on ACORN, fraud and Obama's ties.

ACORN lawyers were on blaming it on "one or two bad canvasers". comparing the problem to empoyees stealing from a company.

No go. They were slapped down hard. Fox put up maps of the states where investigations and indictments are going on and the rise in Obama's poll numbers, especially swing states.

FBI is now involved.

It ended with a call for the rest of the media to start reporting on this or Obama to disown ACORN.

We'll see what happens now.
wardogs
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
It sounds like his supporters (with or without his stamp of approval) have been working hard to steal the election. I hope they all do time for their voter fraud.

Voters should have to show up in person to register for a voter ID with their picture on it, the same as a drivers license. If it is required to drive, then it should be required to vote.
 

Wardogs

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It sounds like his supporters (with or without his stamp of approval) have been working hard to steal the election. I hope they all do time for their voter fraud.

Voters should have to show up in person to register for a voter ID with their picture on it, the same as a drivers license. If it is required to drive, then it should be required to vote.

Oh it's definitely with his stamp of approval....

ACORN Watch, Pt II: Obama hid $800,000 payment to ACORN through “Citizen Services, Inc.”
By Michelle Malkin • August 22, 2008 11:46 AM
http://michellemalkin.com/2008/08/2...ayment-to-acorn-through-citizen-services-inc/

There’s much more to the story of Obama’s amended campaign finance reports than what Obama and the Obamedia will tell you. I will fill you in on what’s missing in a moment. What we have here, essentially, is Obama using a non-profit group called Citizens Services Inc. as a front to funnel payments to ACORN for campaign advance work. Obama officials say it’s no big deal. Nothing to see here. Move along. But where there’s left-wing laundering smoke, there’s fire. CSI has been the subject of a little-noticed complaint to the FEC by a Democrat who smelled something rotten going on between CSI, ACORN, and a left-wing 527, Communities Voting Together.

But first, the headline:

Obama to amend report on $800,000 in spending

The Pittsburgh Tribune-Review has details:
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_584284.html

U.S. Sen. Barack Obama’s presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat’s campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports.

An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. — a subsidiary of ACORN — worked in “get-out-the-vote” projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary.

FEC spokeswoman Mary Brandenberger said it is not unusual for campaigns to amend reports, even regarding large sums of money.

But, said Blair Latoff, spokeswoman for the Republican National Committee: “Barack Obama’s failure to accurately report his campaign’s financial records is an incredibly suspicious situation that appears to be an attempt to hide his campaign’s interaction with a left-wing organization previously convicted of voter fraud. For a candidate who claims to be practicing ‘new’ politics, his FEC reports look an awful lot like the ‘old-style’ Chicago politics of yesterday.”

The suspicions are well-placed, as I’ve been detailing ever since starting ACORN Watch.

Jim Terry, spokesman for a group that tracks ACORN, said Citizens Services Inc.’s involvement in the Obama campaign raises bigger questions.

“All of this just seems like an awful lot of money and time spent on political campaigning for an organization that purports to exist to help low-income consumers,” said Terry, chief public advocate for Consumers Rights League, a Washington, D.C., advocacy outfit with a libertarian outlook.

“ACORN has a long and sordid history of employing convoluted Enron-style accounting to illegally use taxpayer funds for their own political gain,” Terry claimed. “Now it looks like ACORN is using the same type of convoluted accounting scheme for Obama’s political gain.”

Are your alarm bells ringing yet?

The Ohio primary was March 4. According to FEC records, the Obama campaign paid Citizens Services Inc. $832,598.29, from Feb. 25 to May 17.

A Trib analysis of campaign finance reports showed Obama paid CSI for services that stood out as unusual. For example, CSI received payments of $63,000 and $75,000 for advance work. Excluding the large payments to CSI, the average amount the Obama campaign spent with other organizations was $558.82 per check on more than 1,200 entries classified as advance work.

Citizens Services Inc. is headquartered at the same address as ACORN’s national headquarters in New Orleans. Citizens Services was established in December 2004 to “assist persons and organizations who advance the interests of low- and moderate-income people,” according to paperwork filed in Louisiana. In a 2006 ACORN publication, Citizen Services Inc. is described as “ACORN’s campaign services entity.”

Separate? Bull:

Regarding CSI’s nonprofit status, Robinson said: “We are organized specifically not to make money, but we make money. There are no profits. We have a staff of 60 people around the country, and that eats up our entire profit. We’re not a for-profit corporation, but we are not a group like a United Way.”

CSI is a “separate organization entirely” from ACORN, he said.

“ACORN is a client of ours,” Robinson said. “ACORN has a lot of different partner organizations. We are a partner, but we are separate.”

Robinson is listed on several Web sites as national deputy political director for campaigns and elections at ACORN. He is also listed as political director at the nonprofit Communities Voting Together and as a consultant at Project Vote. He did not return phone calls or an e-mail request for a follow-up interview.

Money flows back and forth between ACORN, Citizens Services Inc., Project Vote and Communities Voting Together. ACORN posts job ads for Citizens Services and Project Vote. Communities Voting Together contributed $60,000 to Citizens Services Inc., for example, in November 2005, according to a posting on CampaignMoney.com. Project Vote has hired ACORN and CSI as its highest paid contractors, paying ACORN $4,649,037 in 2006 and CSI $779,016 in 2006, according to Terry of the Consumers Rights League.

And now, let’s dig deeper.

FEC reports show that from February-May 2008, Obama paid $832,598.29 to CSI.

The payments were for:

$310,441.20 25-FEB-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
$160,689.40 27-FEB-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
$98,451.20 29-FEB-08 TRAVEL/LODGING
$74,578.01 13-MAR-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
$18,417.00 28-MAR-08 POLLING
$18,633.60 29-APR-08 STAGING, SOUND, LIGHTING
$63,000.00 29-APR-08 ADVANCE WORK
$105.84 02-MAY-08 LICENSE FEES
$105.84 02-MAY-08 LICENSE FEES
$75,000.00 17-MAY-08 ADVANCE WORK
$13,176.20 17-MAY-08 PER DIEM

Interesting services and payments for a nonprofit that supposedly does simple canvassing work on behalf of low-income people. And now, the Obama campaign is going to wave its magic wand and change those services to get-out-the-vote work? What the…?

For your information: The New Orleans building that houses CSI also houses multiple chapters of ACORN and the SEIU– as well as the 527 group Communities Voting Together.

And for your information: A tipster points to shady business by CSI -detected by Maryland Democrat Al Wynn, of all people. His team, which filed an FEC complaint over the matter, linked several suspicious outfits used by his primary opponent to one address: 1024 Elysian Fields in New Orleans. That’s the address of CSI and ACORN.

In a letter to the FEC, Lori Sherwood, the congressman’s campaign manager, wrote, “Based on my examination of various records and documents I believe the Donna Edwards for Congress Committee has received substantial assistance by way of unreported, in-kind contributions from organizations who profess to have operated independently of the Edwards Campaign.”

In a lengthy complaint, Sherwood claimed that as executive director of the social justice organization the Arca Foundation, Edwards was “responsible for administering and overseeing grants that are awarded and distributed” by the group – grants that go to some of her campaign’s biggest supporters.

“By way of example and not limitation, the Arca Foundation contributed $100,000.00 in grants to the League of Conservation Voters (LCV) from 2004-2006,” Sherwood said.

“That after having been intimately involved in the award of an Arca grant to the LCV, Donna Edwards was appointed to the Board of Directors of the League of Conservation Voters,” she continued. “After receipt of grant money from Ms. Edward’s group and her appointment to the LCV Board, LCV endorsed Donna Edwards for Congress in 2006 and 2008.”

Sherwood goes on to allege that the “LCV and its principals contributed over $15,000.00 to the Edwards campaign through its board members, employees, and the LCV PAC.”

Tip of the iceberg:

Sherwood said the 527 group Communities Voting Together(CTV), which is located at 1024 Elysian Fields in New Orleans, was also the address for the Service Employees International Union (SEIU) Local 100, and theaddress of the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN),along with the Elysian Fields Corporation.

“Wade Rathke, President of Elysian Fields Corporation is also the chief organizer for SEIU Local 100, founder of ACORN, and a member of the Board of Directors of Tides Center and Tides Foundation,” Sherwood said while alleging that Tides, a social justice network, “received $245,000 ingrant money” from the Arca Foundation from 2002-2006.

She continued, saying, “Donna Pharr is the Custodian of Record for Communities Voting Together, the Assistant Treasurer for ACORN, andDeputy Treasurer for the American Institute for Social Justice and Voting forAmerica, Inc. Both of these organizations received a combined total of $230,000 in grants from Arca between 2003 and 2006.”

Sherwood also said members of the CTV “printed and distributed thousands of handouts attacking Congressman Wynn,” while they also attempted “to hire canvassers to assist the Edwards campaign.”

She continued, saying, “Donna Pharr is the Custodian of Record for Communities Voting Together, the Assistant Treasurer for ACORN, and Deputy Treasurer for the American Institute for Social Justice and Voting for America, Inc. Both of these organizations received a combined total of $230,000 in grants from Arca between 2003 and 2006.”

Sherwood also said members of the CTV “printed and distributed thousands of handouts attacking Congressman Wynn,” while they also attempted “to hire canvassers to assist the Edwards campaign.”

In addition, Sherwood said she also learned of a relationship between the Edwards [campaign] and another not for profit, Citizens Services, Inc., a Louisiana corporation also claiming the address 1024 Elysian Fields in New Orleans.

“I learned that Citizens Services, Inc. qualified to do business in Maryland as a foreign corporation and gave a registered agent address of 11 East Chase St., in Baltimore,” Sherwood said.

“In checking to verify the address, I learned that there is no record of Citizen Services, Inc. actually having an office in Baltimore,” she added. “According to recent records from the Maryland State Department of Taxation and Assessments Citizens Services, Inc.’s ability to do business in Maryland was forfeited less than 2 months after the 2006 primary.”

Sherwood alleged that the Edwards campaign paid Citizens Services a total of $76,866.80 in three separate payments in a door to door get out the vote effort.

There is at least one other example of suspiciously large payments to Citizens Services, Inc. that call into question what kind of work this non-partisan, non-profit is doing.

See here, where liberal group Ohio Citizen Action notes a $907,808 payment to Citizens Services for canvassing and $590,526.10 for “campaign consulting.” That’s some gold-plated get-out-the-vote and consulting services right there.


The scheme has all the appearances of another left-wing slush fund for Democrat satellites exploiting their non-profit status and skirting campaign finance laws.

The more things Change…

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Stanley Kurtz has much more on Senator Stealth’s ACORN ties.
http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=MDQ0MDBmMjQwZmYxYzhlZjc3ZGFkZjlkOWJlMTk2MWE=
 

Wardogs

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While state after state is reporting voter fraud allegations concerning ACORN, the MSM has now decided to start reporting. Not in the way you might think though.

Fox is hammering hard on the ACORN connection as are some of the local papers where this is taking place, BUT....

CNN just did a report quoting the NYT. In their report, ACORN is not mentioned at all. They are saying that those states are ILLEGALY PURGING VOTERS FROM THE ROLLS. No mention of WHY. No mention of the improprieties. They are urging people to complain to their election boards.....

Meanwhile, this from Indianapolis...

105% of Indianapolis registered to vote!

You're doing a heckuva job there, ACORN.

It's like this. Brendan O'Shaughnessy of IndyStar reports that:

"In the county, 677,401 voters were registered as of Monday evening; that number was expected to continue growing as last-minute registrations are entered into the system. In 2004, the county had 602,918 registered voters."
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081007/NEWS0502/810070368/1304/LOCAL

Meanwhile, Ogden on Politics went and looked up the population of Marion County, Indiana. In 2007, it was 876,804. No problem, right? - Except that:

"Of that number 232,607 were below 18 years of age, for a total of 644,197 people in Marion County/Indianapolis 18 or over and thus eligible to vote. (Indiana allows felons to vote as long as they are not incarcerated)."
http://www.ogdenonpolitics.com/2008/10/voting-early-often-indianapolis-bloated.html

That works out to 105% of the eligible population of Marion County is apparently registered to vote. Unless somebody wants to tell me that the number of adults in Marion County increased by more than 4% in a year? Anyone? No?

Say Anything asks, is there an ACORN office in Indianapolis? Why, yes, they have one there, and one in Gary, Indiana. Say Anything also notes that Senator Obama seems fond of the Democratic-allied organization.
Getting-close-to-seven digits fond of the organization, in fact. Not that we have any proof that the above bloated voting records have anything to do with the unfortunateactionsofafewbadappleswhowecantcontrol.
http://sayanythingblog.com/entry/obama_and_acorn_more_lies_more_fraud/

Yet.

But the month is young.
wardogs
 

TerriHaute

Hoosier Gardener
105% of Indianapolis registered to vote!

You're doing a heckuva job there, ACORN.

It's like this. Brendan O'Shaughnessy of IndyStar reports that:

"In the county, 677,401 voters were registered as of Monday evening; that number was expected to continue growing as last-minute registrations are entered into the system. In 2004, the county had 602,918 registered voters."

Indiana is notoriously bad about cleaning up voter registration records. I moved from one Indiana town to another, and registered in the new town so I could vote. Spoke to an old neighbor from the town where I used to live, and she mentioned seeing my name in the book at the polling place when she signed in the day of the election. I've heard other similar anecdotal stories from co-workers etc. Indiana also lets you register to vote at the BMV, so its pretty easy to sign up.

That being said, there is no way that 75000 eligible voters moved to Indianapolis over the past four years. That's a 12% increase just in voters. Even if you cut that in half to 6%, allowing for bad record-keeping, there is no way that many new voters would have registered, unless there was a relentless publicity drive, which there wasn't or I would have heard about it.
 

Wardogs

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The NY Post is reporting it a bit differently than the NYT...

VOTE-FRAUD-A-GO-GO
http://www.nypost.com/seven/10092008/postopinion/editorials/vote_fraud_a_go_go_132852.htm
October 9, 2008

Let every vote count, is the Democratic Party's mantra these days. That slogan might better be: Let every vote count as often as we need to win.

Such, at any rate, are the tactics of ACORN, Barack Obama's favorite "community organizers," and its Project Vote - of which, the Democratic presidential candidate has boasted, "I started working as the director . . . here in Chicago."

ACORN has been implicated in voter-fraud schemes in 15 states - including Ohio, from where The Post's Jeane MacIntosh reports today that a Board of Elections investigation has unearthed evidence of widespread voter fraud.

Two voters told MacIntosh they had been dragooned by ACORN activists into registering several times - one reporting having signed up "10 to 15" times.

ACORN canvassers "would ask me if I was registered," he said. "I'd say yes and they'd ask me to do it again."

Tuesday, Nevada officials raided ACORN's Las Vegas offices as part of a probe into voter-registration fraud - noting that some forms submitted by ACORN workers included the names of Dallas Cowboys players.

Officials in Lake County, Ind. report that fully 1,100 of 2,000 new voter-registration forms delivered by ACORN were "suspicious."

In Washington state, officials recently closed an investigation into ballot cheating that resulted in prison terms.

ACORN submitted more than 800 phony registration forms in Independence, Mo., with one woman registering 10 times, using three birthdates, four different Social Security numbers and six different phone numbers.

And, as The Post reported Monday, another pro-Obama group, Vote Today Ohio, took advantage of a quirk in that state's law, which allows people to register and vote on the same day without having to prove residency, to drive hundreds of people from homeless shelters and drug-rehab centers to the polls.

John McCain's campaign says all this "doesn't pass the smell test."

Actually, it stinks.

And it's being done by a group with which Barack Obama has proudly been associated.

What, then, would they be able to pull off with a friend in the White House?
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The New York Post counts 15 states where ACORN's been doing vote fraud.
The New York Post is probably undercounting. (New Mexico just opened an FBI investigation on 1500 counts of fraud).

At the rate we're going, we might as well just get ACORN to announce where they're not committing voter fraud. It'd be faster.
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expose'

The Pulse......
That being said, there is no way that 75000 eligible voters moved to Indianapolis over the past four years. That's a 12% increase just in voters. Even if you cut that in half to 6%, allowing for bad record-keeping, there is no way that many new voters would have registered, unless there was a relentless publicity drive, which there wasn't or I would have heard about it.

In our state (Washington), Acorn learned during the last presidential election that you could re-register already registered voters by having them register to vote using a different play on their names...ie; Mary B Smith - could register as M B Smith, Mary Bertha Smith, M Bertha Smith, etc...and the identification sofware in the state elections department would not pick up those indicators of duplicate registrations..such as social security numbers, address, birthdates..etc.. Another way that Acorn was able to produce illegal voter registrations was to have absentee voter regsitration cards sent to people in other countrys - stating their mailing addresses as out of town and using the County administration building address as their home - or local address....We had absentee ballots from Canada, France, Phillipines, China, etc..with no real local address other than the county admin office address...meaning that other countrys were able to inlfuence our election process..
Another way that Acorn has been able to illegally register voters was to have students away at college register to vote twice - once using their home address and again using their campus address...The same with people who live half of the year in a vacation home...

There are other ways that our countrys voting system has been compromised by Acorn and the left over the past decade....
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Just how long will Acron be allowed to break the law?
And in Missouri:

http://www.ksdk.com/news/local/stor...=waGM9MTi5RB4l+t5wvSG84gkrbaD0m8GhAoIAod22iA=

Missouri Officials Suspect Fake Voter Registration
By BILL DRAPER, Associated Press Writer

KANSAS CITY (AP) -- Officials in Missouri, a hard-fought jewel in the presidential race, are sifting through possibly hundreds of questionable or duplicate voter-registration forms submitted by an advocacy group that has been accused of election fraud in other states.

Charlene Davis, co-director of the election board in Jackson County, where Kansas City is, said the fraudulent registration forms came from the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN. She said they were bogging down work Wednesday, the final day Missourians could register to vote.

"I don't even know the entire scope of it because registrations are coming in so heavy," Davis said. "We have identified about 100 duplicates, and probably 280 addresses that don't exist, people who have driver's license numbers that won't verify or Social Security numbers that won't verify. Some have no address at all."

The nonpartisan group works to recruit low-income voters, who tend to lean Democratic. Most polls show Republican presidential candidate John McCain with an edge in bellwether Missouri, but Democrat Barack Obama continues to put up a strong fight.

Jess Ordower, Midwest director of ACORN, said his group hasn't done any registrations in Kansas City since late August. He said he was told three weeks ago by election officials that there were only about 135 questionable cards -- 85 of them duplicates.

"They keep telling different people different things," he said. "They gave us a list of 130, then told someone else it was 1,000."

FBI spokeswoman Bridget Patton said the agency has been in contact with elections officials about potential voter fraud and plans to investigate.

"It's a matter we take very seriously," Patton said. "It is against the law to register someone to vote who does not fall within the parameters to vote, or to put someone on there falsely."

On Tuesday, authorities in Nevada seized records from ACORN after finding fraudulent registration forms that included the starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys.

In April, eight ACORN workers in St. Louis city and county pleaded guilty to federal election fraud for submitting false registration cards for the 2006 election. U.S. Attorney Catherine Hanaway said they submitted cards with false addresses and names, and forged signatures.

Ordower said Wednesday that ACORN registered about 53,500 people in Missouri this year. He believes his group is being targeted because some politicians don't want that many low-income people having a voice.

"It's par for the course," he said. "When you're doing more registrations than anyone else in the country, some don't want low-income people being empowered to vote. There are pretty targeted attacks on us, but we're proud to be out there doing the patriotic thing getting people registered to vote."

Republicans are among ACORN's loudest critics. At a campaign stop in Bethlehem, Pa., supporters of John McCain interrupted his remarks Wednesday by shouting, "No more ACORN."

Debbie Mesloh, spokeswoman for the Obama campaign in Missouri, said in an e-mailed statement that the campaign supported any investigation of possible fraud.

According to its national Web site, the group has registered 1.3 million people nationwide for the Nov. 4 election. It also has encountered complaints of fraud stemming from registration efforts in Wisconsin, New Mexico, Nevada and battleground states like Michigan, Ohio and North Carolina, where new voter registrations have favored Democrats nearly 4 to 1 since the beginning of this year.

Missouri offers 11 electoral votes; the presidential candidates need at least 270 to win the election.

(Copyright 2008 by The Associated Press. All Rights Reserved.)


Associated Press
 

Wardogs

Inactive
Well CNN is finally doing a story on this.
Drew Griffin (who did the Obama/Ayers piece) went to Crown Point, IN to check on the stories of voter fraud.

So far election workers have gone through about 2100 Acorn submissions turned in just before the Oct 6 deadline and all, EVERY ONE so far is fraudulent.

Cats, phony names, restaurant names....ALL phony. Many having been signed by the same person.

Acorns lawyers are saying it's a Republican plot to disenfranchise voters, but the investigators and election officials are Democrats.

What a mess.
wardogs

From Drew Griffin and Kathleen Johnston
CNN Special Investigations Unit
Thousands of voter registration forms faked, officials say
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/10/09/acorn.fraud.claims/index.html

CROWN POINT, Indiana (CNN) -- More than 2,000 voter registration forms filed in northern Indiana's Lake County by a liberal activist group this week have turned out to be bogus, election officials said Thursday.
An official enters the Las Vegas, Nevada, ACORN office, which is under investigation for alleged voter fraud.

An official enters the Las Vegas, Nevada, ACORN office, which is under investigation for alleged voter fraud.

The group -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, or ACORN -- already faces allegations of filing fraudulent voter registrations in Nevada and faces investigations in other states.

And in Lake County, home to the long-depressed steel town of Gary, the bipartisan Elections Board has stopped processing a stack of about 5,000 applications delivered just before the October 6 registration deadline after the first 2,100 turned out to be phony.

"All the signatures looked exactly the same," Ruthann Hoagland, a Republican on the board. "Everything on the card filled out looks exactly the same."

The forms included registrations submitted in the names of the dead -- and in one case, the name of a fast-food restaurant, Jimmy Johns. Sally LaSota, a Democrat on the board, called the forms fraudulent and said whoever filed them broke the law.

"ACORN, with its intent, perhaps was good in the beginning, but went awry somewhere," LaSota said.

Over the past four years, a dozen states have investigated complaints of fraudulent registrations filed by ACORN. On Tuesday, Nevada authorities raided an ACORN office in Las Vegas, Nevada, where workers are accused of registering members of the Dallas Cowboys football team. And the group has become the target of Republican attacks on voter fraud, a perennial GOP issue.

A subsidiary of the group was paid $800,000 by Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama's campaign to register voters for the 2008 primaries, and ACORN's political wing endorsed Obama back in February. But Obama's campaign told CNN that it "is committed to protecting the integrity of the voting process," and said it has not worked with ACORN during the general election.

Brian Mellor, an ACORN attorney in Boston, said the group has its own quality-control process and has fired workers in the past -- including workers in Gary. But he said allegations that his organization committed fraud is a government attempt to keep people disenfranchised. Video Watch more about this investigation »

"We believe their purpose is to attack ACORN and suppress votes," Mellor said. "We believe that by attacking ACORN, they are going to discourage people that have registered to vote with ACORN from voting."

CNN was unable to reach ACORN officials in Gary and in Milwaukee, Wisconsin, where the group's Indiana operation is based. Offices in both cities were empty when reporters visited.

Lake County elections officials have set aside all 5,000 of the ACORN-submitted applications in what Hoagland called the "fake pile" for later review. But she said every one will be reviewed before the election to make sure no legitimate voters are skipped.

There has been no evidence of voter fraud yet, because voters have yet to go to the polls. But elections officials say they will be sending their information to prosecutors, who will determine whether any investigation will begin.

"We have no idea what the motive behind it is," she said. "It's just overwhelming to us."
 

Kalliope

Inactive
Kalliope, are you really fine with ACORN fraudulently registering a 7-year old girl as a 27 year old? Really? If so, you might get yourself checked. Being a dissociative sociopath is something you'd want to treat...

Fuc' off - no I don't. Let's see where these investigations go. If people who are being paid (which is ripe for abuse, and needs to be stopped) signed up a bunch of fradulent registrations, then yes, they need to be convicted, and whomever is in charge of ACORN needs to do a total shake-up and shake-down of their chapters.

The ACORN people I know are not like this - they are setting up community gardens, helping homeless get shelter (they go find them under rr tracks, etc.), rent violations, etc. But this being a small state, it's easier to catch fraud like this, rather than in the bigger cities.

I see absolutely no need for these registrations anyway - you are 18, you get to vote, period. Nobody should have to go through this just to vote.

Nobody should send out fradulent registered mail, which of course gets returned, and then caging lists are set up and votes challenged. Nobody should get kicked off registration lists just because a felon has their same last name. Nobody should be denied the right to vote just because they moved to a assisted-living facility, as in Montana, and so forth.

Take your drivers license (or some form of ID) and vote - period. Then we wouldn't have these problems.
 

vampire

Inactive
I see absolutely no need for these registrations anyway - you are 18, you get to vote, period. Nobody should have to go through this just to vote.

Nobody should send out fradulent registered mail, which of course gets returned, and then caging lists are set up and votes challenged. Nobody should get kicked off registration lists just because a felon has their same last name. Nobody should be denied the right to vote just because they moved to a assisted-living facility, as in Montana, and so forth.

Take your drivers license (or some form of ID) and vote - period. Then we wouldn't have these problems.


Cool, I could just hop from polling place to polling place voting as many times as I want. I like it. :lkick:
 

newsgirl

Inactive
THIS IS KEY

See this:
http://fightthesmears. com/articles/20/acornrumor

Then these (and please note these are ACORN documents, not "smear lit"):
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http://i35. tinypic. com/110etn6. jpg
http://i34. tinypic. com/2q2g7cp. jpg

Read item number three at the O site. Then read the second page of the ACORN newsletter -- last sentence of the first paragraph. "Project VOTE delivered 50,000 newly registered voters in that campaign (ACORN delivered about 5000 of them)." Say what?
 

BigBadBossyDog

Inactive
Oh yes, PLEASE try a defense like that. Keeping records of illegal voters is NOT a caging list.

That would be more like Obama's phony early notification scam for his VP announcement giving him cell numbers for over 3 million voters which he now uses for direct contact.


You liberals are truly pitiful.

Rampant fraud going on and you still try and deflect.
wardogs

That's what one comes to expect from tit-sucking spongers. Never did an honest day's work in their lives.

I heard on the news yesterday the ACORN office in my town was shut down awhile back. Thank goodness. Despicable organization.
 

Wardogs

Inactive
Report from Iowahawk....
http://iowahawk.typepad.com/iowahawk/2008/10/acorn-files-vot.html

It's come to this now. :D


ACORN Files Voting Rights Suit on Behalf of Imaginary-Americans

ST. LOUIS - Attorneys for the voting registration organizations ACORN and Project Vote filed an anti-discrimination voting rights suit in the U.S. Federal District court this morning, alleging the United States government is involved in "a widespread, systematic effort to disenfranchise Imaginary-Americans and deprive them of access to polls."

"Participation in our electoral process is a fundamental right, and the foundation of our democracy," said ASDF ASDFG, a spokesperson for the National Association for the Advancement of Imaginary People, one of the groups named as plaintiffs in the class action. "We will not be silent when government denies people access to the polls on the basis of color, or sex, or existential status."

The new suit was prompted by on a series of law enforcement raids of ACORN offices in 10 states over the past week, as well as a reported Justice Department investigation. Federal and state officials say they were acting on tips of fraudulent voter registration forms, after election officials reported a flood of unusual applications submitted by ACORN canvassers. In Las Vegas the Clarke County election commission reported thousands of registrations signed by the Dallas Cowboys, while in St. Louis officials discovered thousands of others signed by Power Rangers, Menudo, and Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles. In Cleveland, Ohio Republican officials complained to the Federal Election Commission after early-voting sites barred observers when thousands of Invisible-Ohioans arrived at the polls aboard hundreds of invisible ACORN buses. In Ida Grove, Iowa, Ida County Registrar Debby Ballard expressed concern when a convoy of Chicago ACORN semis submitted 4,000,000 provisional ballots, 17 seconds before a 5 pm deadline.

"I'm proud that Ida County can boast of a 114,312% voter registration rate, but I'm not sure if I can get all of them processed by Monday," said Ballard. "I've got a pilates class in Sioux City."

After the raids, ACORN officials initially blamed the problems on rogue volunteers.

"We are in the midst of our most successful signup ever, registering over 7 trillion new voters in the last week alone," said ACORN spokesman Charles Jackson. "It's impossible to have 100% quality control, and a few misspellings might have fallen through the cracks."

On Tuesday, ACORN said it would dismiss any workers suspected of fraud, and would outsource 40% of voter registration jobs to Banglore Registration Industries.

"The quality control is better in India, and we can save over $35 per metric ton," noted Jackson.

After consultation with attorneys, however, ACORN -- which has received $800,000 from the Obama campaign for registration efforts -- filed a suit claiming the increased legal scrutiny was driven by a political agenda. Amicus briefs were added from several Imaginary Rights groups, adding civil rights violations to the list of complaints.

"Whether we are obituary notices, hallucinatory giant rabbits, or strings of random keyboard strokes, it's time for the chimera community to stand up and claim our rights as citizens," said ASDFG. "We will no longer be silent and invisible. Okay, maybe invisible."

In addition to $3.2 jubajillion in damages and free federal mortgages for homeless spectres, the suit also seeks enforcement of the Americans with Dimensional Disabilities Act. The Act requires voting places to make accommodations for existentially-challenged voters who have trouble completing ballots written in standard 3-dimensional reality. The accommodations include multiple site registration, time travel, and allowances for alcoholics to cast ballots for dependent D.T. phantasms.

"Many of our community inhabit the Tapioca subluster of the 11th Dimension, and it's hard for them to find a convenient spacehole to make it to the local elementary school," explained ASDFG.

A ruling in the suit is expected later this week from St. Louis federal appelate judge Fwinklezorg the Hydragoa
 

newsgirl

Inactive
"I’ve been fighting alongside ACORN on issues you care about my entire career. Even before I was an elected official, when I ran Project Vote voter registration drive in Illinois, ACORN was smack dab in the middle of it, and we appreciate your work."
— Barack Obama, Speech to ACORN, November 2007
 

Blastoff

Veteran Member
Take your drivers license (or some form of ID) and vote - period. Then we wouldn't have these problems.

Hey, K, Obama doesn't agree with you.

Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) filed a resolution last week opposing a recommendation that would require all eligible voters to show photo identification before casting a vote

http://obama.senate.gov/news/050926-obama_voices_op/

Obama has a record of fighting against requiring voters to provide proof of identity - just like ACORN.
 

Wardogs

Inactive
I have a feeling this is going to be a problem in every state ACORN has been active in. The US AG is now looking into it also...

Houston's Dead Rise to Vote
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/

The dead having been rising to vote in Houston:

There are more than 4,000 people whose names are listed both on Harris County's voter rolls and also in a federal database of death records, a Texas Watchdog analysis has found.

And dozens of those people […] have apparently cast ballots from beyond the grave, records since 2004 show. One expert says the number of deceased names used to cast ballots may be higher than what Texas Watchdog's analysis found.
http://www.texaswatchdog.org/2008/10/dead-voters-still-registered-in-harris-county/#analysis

Instances of dead voters' names being used to cast ballots were most frequent in three elections, the November 2004 general election, the November 2006 general election and the March 2008 Democratic primary, the analysis found.

Given Obama's longstanding ties to the vote fraud outfit ACORN, dead voters are likely to have more influence than ever next month.

The findings come as the group ACORN, the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now, has faced scrutiny in multiple states for allegedly improper voter registrations — including players for the Dallas Cowboys, not in the Lone Star State, but in Nevada. The group's Nevada offices were raided by state officials earlier this week.

The 4,000 corpses voting in greater Houston represent almost four times W's margin in Florida in 2000, which saved the country from an Al Gore Administration. With Obama's ACORN friends busy cheating across the country, McCain will have to win by a substantial margin to win at all.
 

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Saundria

Contributing Member
Good grief. :shk:


http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/acorn_voter_fraud/2008/10/10/139365.html


ACORN Pays to Register Teenager 72 Times

Friday, October 10, 2008 4:39 PM

By: Jim Meyers Article Font Size


An Ohio teenager says he was given cash and cigarettes by activists with the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) for registering to vote 72 times.

“Sometimes they come up and bribe me with a cigarette, or they’ll give me a dollar to sign up,” 19-year-old Freddie Johnson of Cleveland told the New York Post.

“The ACORN people are everywhere, looking to sign people up. I tell them I am already registered … They say, ‘Can you just sign up again.’”

ACORN — whose political wing has endorsed Barack Obama — is under investigation in at least nine states for potential voter fraud.

In Connecticut, officials are probing the allegation that ACORN registered a 7-year-old girl to vote.

Bribing citizens with anything of value to get them to register is a felony in Ohio.

Johnson told The Post his haul over an 18-month period was from 10 to 20 cigarettes and “anywhere from $10 to $15.”
 

Chocolatier

Inactive
Fuc' off - no I don't. Let's see where these investigations go. If people who are being paid (which is ripe for abuse, and needs to be stopped) signed up a bunch of fradulent registrations, then yes, they need to be convicted, and whomever is in charge of ACORN needs to do a total shake-up and shake-down of their chapters.

The ACORN people I know are not like this - they are setting up community gardens, helping homeless get shelter (they go find them under rr tracks, etc.), rent violations, etc. But this being a small state, it's easier to catch fraud like this, rather than in the bigger cities.

I see absolutely no need for these registrations anyway - you are 18, you get to vote, period. Nobody should have to go through this just to vote.

Nobody should send out fradulent registered mail, which of course gets returned, and then caging lists are set up and votes challenged. Nobody should get kicked off registration lists just because a felon has their same last name. Nobody should be denied the right to vote just because they moved to a assisted-living facility, as in Montana, and so forth.

Take your drivers license (or some form of ID) and vote - period. Then we wouldn't have these problems.

The investigations are clear - ACORN is one big steaming pile. Report after report above show it to be true, but all you've said up till now is how the controlling agencies responsible for keeping it clean are exposing themselves to countersuits. I called you on it and you respond by telling me to F** off. I wasn't being mean - if you can't see the difference between blatantly breaking the law and trying to enforce it you really may be a dissociative sociopath. Look it up, you're showing a lot of the symptoms.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
I posted one using the same prefix, Wardogs, regarding the 4,400+ dead voters in Houston (Harris County -- also referenced above) with stories of some of them having voted post-mortem.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?t=305519

Here's a snip:

"Auditors identified 49,049 registered voters state-wide who may have been ineligible to vote. Approximately 23,576 may have been deceased and another 23,114 were possible felons. And they found more than 2,359 duplicate records."

This is beyond a handfull of States and is going to make for one fubar'd election and legal challenges, no matter the winner, I say!
 

ceeblue

Inactive
Hmmm...so the guy admits that he is illegally compiling a caging list, seems ACORN has a counter suit for real fraud.

What we have, at this late date so close to the election, is a criminal organization involved in defrauding the United States of America.

Witnesses around the country have spoken of being coerced and fraudulently registered. Someone, say a national newspaper such as the Washington Times, could put out a call for notarized affidavits to be mailed to them by these witnesses.

I'd like to see a case in each Federal Court District barring any and all registrations tied to Acorn. While we're at it, Acorn should be ordered disbanded due to endemic and systemic fraud.

Since this organization has been convicted of fraud in the past and is now under indictment for fraud intended to distort a national election, it seems prudent for all registrations submitted by this criminal organization to be summarily thrown out pronto.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
There ACORN people are like zombies. One former worker called into the local black community radio show and said the problem is that the street level workers are pressured non-stop about numbers. He said it isn't so much they want fraudulent voting but it seems to be all about getting huge numbers registered. He said that if you can't see these folks for who they are, sales people with a damn good sales pitch, then you are more likely to start doing dumb things that we are hearing about. I personally am now thinking that the whole push behind ACORN isn't to have the entire Cowboy's roster voting in Nevada, but their goal was to flood all the clerks offices so that there would be media reports of "record numbers of new voters." I do believe this was a ploy in hopes to make some folks leaning McCain to think "Damn, there is no way my vote will make a difference." thus that voter just stays home. The problem ACORN has run into is that they have assimilated idiots who are taking this idea to a level which is so ridiculous, ACORN might end up costing Obama the election. The idiots they are employing are so desperate to get the numbers, they are using NFL rosters, reversing names of businesses, etc. etc..
 

denfoote

Inactive
It really does not matter!!

The fix is in for Obama!!

You wanna know how and why??
I'll give you a hint!!


BAAAAAA BAAAAAA BAAAAAAAA

:sheep: :sheep: :sheep:

Your average American is to busy watching his retirement going into the pockets of the pirates of Wall Street to notice or care!!
 

Wardogs

Inactive
There ACORN people are like zombies. One former worker called into the local black community radio show and said the problem is that the street level workers are pressured non-stop about numbers. He said it isn't so much they want fraudulent voting but it seems to be all about getting huge numbers registered. He said that if you can't see these folks for who they are, sales people with a damn good sales pitch, then you are more likely to start doing dumb things that we are hearing about. I personally am now thinking that the whole push behind ACORN isn't to have the entire Cowboy's roster voting in Nevada, but their goal was to flood all the clerks offices so that there would be media reports of "record numbers of new voters." I do believe this was a ploy in hopes to make some folks leaning McCain to think "Damn, there is no way my vote will make a difference." thus that voter just stays home. The problem ACORN has run into is that they have assimilated idiots who are taking this idea to a level which is so ridiculous, ACORN might end up costing Obama the election. The idiots they are employing are so desperate to get the numbers, they are using NFL rosters, reversing names of businesses, etc. etc..

Actually Ravekid you are spot on.

If you followed any of the threads about the "Obama camps" this is just the type of tactics being taught.

The only votes that will be counted out of this will be absentees or early voting ones where the ID has been discarded, (envelopes with names and addresses, the ballots themselves have no name so are imposible to vett).

Large numbers of registrants DO affect the polls however, especially those done by "interested" parties like Democratic pollsters.

Many States still require no or minimal ID to vote however, and in these areas the probability of actual fraud is very high.
wardogs
 

denfoote

Inactive
McCain knows the fix is in!!!

LAKEVILLE, Minn. (AP) - The anger is getting raw at Republican rallies and John McCain is acting to tamp it down. McCain was booed by his own supporters Friday when, in an abrupt switch from raising questions about Barack Obama's character, he described the Democrat as a "decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared of as president of the United States."

http://www.ktar.com/?nid=386&sid=972542

:smkd:
 
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