PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

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October 7, 2008

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

Call of McCain's co-chair on "Jewish Outreach" has been missed or ignored by both the secular and Jewish media

October 7, 2008 (Fort Lee, NJ) -- In a Shalom TV editorial, Rabbi Mark S. Golub, president of American Jewry's national cable television network, expressed his concern that both the Jewish and secular media has not asked Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to clarify her position on the intrinsic religious integrity of Judaism and the Jewish People.

Golub points out that Governor Palin is a participating member of The Wasilla Bible Church whose pastor publicly preaches the need to convert Jews to Christianity. More specifically, Governor Palin was in attendance when the visiting executive director of Jews for Jesus preached that Palestinian terrorism which murders and maims Israeli civilians is God's punishment of the Jews for not accepting Jesus. Governor Palin's pastor followed this sermon with a collection for Jews for Jesus and prayed that God would make their work of bringing Jews to Jesus successful.

The call for Governor Palin to clarify her own stand on whether Jews need to be converted to Christianity deserves prompt media attention since it comes from an official member of the John McCain presidential campaign, Fred Zeidman, who serves as the McCain campaign co-chair for "Jewish Outreach."

In an interview on Shalom TV, Zeidman stated that Governor Palin not only owes an explanation of her views to the American Jewish community, but also owes an explanation to the American community at large--in the same way that Senator Barack Obama owed the American people an explanation of his affiliation with the Reverend Jeremiah Wright and the Trinity United Church of Christ.

For Golub, the lack of a Jewish follow-up to Zeidman's call raises serious questions. Are American Jews reluctant to make an issue over possible anti-Semitic church movements? Are American Jews resigned to a double standard that would condemn anti-white bigotry but not anti-Semitism?

And for Golub, the issue goes far beyond the Jewish community alone.

"It may well be that Governor Palin does not share the views of her church, her pastor, or the executive director of Jews for Jesus," said Golub from his New Jersey office. "But Jews in particular, and all Americans who care about church-state separation and religious tolerance in the United States, have a right to ask Governor Palin to clarify where she stands on the need to convert Jews. In America, one would not expect any public official to view any religious group--not Muslims, not Jews, not Christians--as a community of lost souls that must be converted. Yet this is the view of Governor Palin's pastor and church community, and if the governor does share her pastor's perspective on Jews--or on any other non-Christian group in America--one may wonder how her views might effect her public policy decisions were she to be elected in November."

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warren.

It used to be that we Americans tried to keep religion out of politics. Now every politician is held to the comparative mirror of fundamentalist Christianity.

Go figure.

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warren.

I think the height of absurdity is to imply that Gov. Palin is more of a threat to Jews and Israel than Barak Obama.

tc46,

I totally agree.

You obviously missed the point entirely.

warren.

But but she has an Israeli flag in her office and sometimes wears one on her lapel...... Now that has to account for something.

Why doesn't someone "ask the Church" instead?

Warren Bone said:

It used to be that we Americans tried to keep religion out of politics. Now every politician is held to the comparative mirror of fundamentalist Christianity.

Go figure.

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warren.

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No the point is, genius, that you failed to ever address why the much more dangerous anti-semitic statements by Obama's church are being ignored by yourself.

That's the real point.

whose pastor publicly preaches the need to convert Jews to Christianity.

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Oh....heaven forbid!

A Christian thinking non-Christians (Jews or others) need to be converted.

How wierd!

Maybe the Jews even think the Christians are wrong!

Dumbest story in awhile ......... PC will kill us.

People can pray for and want anything they choose, no foul. Jews For Jesus is totally non-violent and non-abrasive ............ so chill.

LONEWOLF said:

Why doesn't someone "ask the Church" instead?

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That would be like asking Rev. Jerimiah Wright what his church believes.

Of course, we know already what Palin's church believes in, as stated in the press release article.

So now it's Palin's opportunity to tell everyone she just goes to that church but doesn't agree with it.

See what a mess it is when we start looking at our government officials' religious beliefs? We should not care; religion must be left out of government.

warren.

I have a family member who belongs to the Assembly of God. They are not anti-Jew or anti-Israel. They are among the few "friends" that Israel has. They want to convert everyone, including Jews. From what I can gather, they are very pro-Israel.

Warren Bone said:

You obviously missed the point entirely.

warren.

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It's questionable whether "the point" was worth making in the first place, since it appears that the author of the article has confused overzealous evangelism with anti-semitism.

A fundamentalist can seek to convert another without wishing to do that person harm.

Now, as to Barry Soetoro's Palestinian/radical Islamist friends...no, they're not really trying to convert Jews. They would rather, apparently, simply kill them instead, as the nightly news attests on a daily basis.

And, wonder of wonders, there isn't a Arab group on this side of the pond or the other that has failed to endorse Mr. Soetoro.

It appears that the author of the article wasn't thinking too clearly.

When I read the article, my first thought was, duh. Of course a Christian church wants to spread the Good News.

Traditionally, Christian churches believe the Good News needs to be brought to all people. This article is just another of a long string of attacks on our traditional Christian identity. I do not use that phrase in relation to any johnny come lately political movement but in its traditional 2000 year old sense.

The article is just what has become the same old crap of the attacks on Christianity in attempts to eradicate the Good News or at least hide it under the rug.

I'd like to slap the attackers upside the head and tell them to shut up. The reaction to this statement now will bring on whining, moaning and groaning. Not so many years ago, the reaction would just have been, duh.

What's that song about our old-time religion?

Every Protestant Church preaches to convert Jews to Christianity.
Along with everybody else.


HERE IS A FACT: Governor Palin has plainly said that she is not a member of any church. She visits a few of them when she is home.


[FONT=Verdana,Arial]"Golub points out that Governor Palin is a participating member of The Wasilla Bible Church[/FONT]"

Wrong She may have possibly been a member at one time? But she is certainly not a member of Wasilla Bible Church.

I guess the next question you'll have then is, "Why are you not voting for the "real" messiah Obama, Mizz Palin?"

There you go again Warren. Making up untruths about Palin won't change the facts. Had you listened to her, she said herself that she isn't a member of ANY church at present. But you, in your zeal to bring on the Obamanation, continue to spurt his lies. Obama will do everything he can, should he become POTUS to destroy Israel, but by then it will be too late. To think that he is the one you would think is helpful to Israel is laughable if it wasn't so sad.

Warren Bone said:

That would be like asking Rev. Jerimiah Wright what his church believes.

Of course, we know already what Palin's church believes in, as stated in the press release article.

So now it's Palin's opportunity to tell everyone she just goes to that church but doesn't agree with it.

See what a mess it is when we start looking at our government officials' religious beliefs? We should not care; religion must be left out of government.

warren.

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SHOULDN'T CARE??? We damn well better if that "church" is a source of radical hate toward whites and America, buckaroo. Seriously Warren, I don't know what meds you've been on these past few months, but you might look in to having them adjusted....

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

She can when Osama comes clean about HIS church as well, or don't you think the Chocolate Messiah needs to do that...?

Warren Bone said:

See what a mess it is when we start looking at our government officials' religious beliefs? We should not care; religion must be left out of government.

warren.

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I beg to differ, peoples religion (aka world view) be it Judaism, Christianity, islam, humanism, environmentalism, feminism, ad nauseam colors everything that person does including their actions in public life. Better to have everything on the table rather secreted away in some backroom unseen by the public.

Rabbi loses license over sex charges
The Associated Press

The Washington Times - February 19, 1998


NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (AP) - Mark A. Golub, a local rabbi who has worked as a mental health counselor, was stripped of his professional counseling license for having sexual relations with a female client, according to a Virginia disciplinary order.

However, Mr. Golub denied the findings in the order issued by the state board that regulates mental health counselors, even though he signed it.

"I am categorically innocent of everything," he said in an interview with the Daily Press. Mr. Golub's attorney is seeking to appeal the order, which involves counseling that was unrelated to Mr. Golub's position as a rabbi.

Mr. Golub has been rabbi at Temple Sinai for 11 years.

The disciplinary order - unanimously approved Friday by the Virginia Board of Licensed Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists and Substance Abuse Professionals - said Mr. Golub had inappropriate relationships with three clients.

The order said Mr. Golub had sexual relations with one client, offered money and jobs to two and made inappropriate comments about the physical attractiveness of all three. Mr. Golub counseled the women for different periods between February 1996 and July 1997 as a counselor with the Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board.

The order also said that for the past three years, Mr. Golub has received individual counseling for "issues related to sexual addiction."

Mr. Golub, 60, said he signed the order to put an end to the stress he has felt since the allegations arose last summer. He said it was too painful for him to even read the order.

"I signed it only because I wanted to put it behind me," he said.

Mr. Golub's attorney, Robert Lawrence, conceded that Mr. Golub made a mistake by signing the order.


STATE REVOKES COUNSELOR'S LICENSE
The Associated Press

Richmond Times-Dispatch - February 18, 1998


Mark A. Golub, a local rabbi who has worked as a mental health counselor, was stripped of his professional counseling license for having sex with a female client, according to a state disciplinary order.

However, Golub denied the findings in the order issued by the state board that regulates mental health counselors, even though he signed it.

"I am categorically innocent of everything," he said in an interview with the Daily Press. Golub's lawyer is seeking to appeal the order, which involves counseling that was unrelated to Golub's position as a rabbi.

The disciplinary order - unanimously approved Friday by the Virginia Board of Licensed Professional Counselors, Marriage and Family Therapists and Substance Abuse Professionals - said Golub had inappropriate relationships with three clients.

The order said Golub had sex with one client, offered money and jobs to two, and made inappropriate comments about the physical attractiveness of all three. Golub counseled the women for different periods between February 1996 and July 1997 as a counselor with the Hampton-Newport News Community Services Board.

The order also said that for the past three years, Golub has received individual counseling for "issues related to sexual addiction."

Golub, 60, said he signed the order to put an end to the stress he has felt since the allegations arose last summer. He said it was too painful for him to even read the order.

Golub's lawyer, Robert Lawrence, conceded that Golub made a mistake by signing the order. Lawrence said he will send a letter to the board this week asking to withdraw Golub's signature and for a hearing.

Memo: (ljb) shorter version in the City edition, page B-4

Nothing but a smear campaign by the 'good' rabbi.

Dennis Olson said:

SHOULDN'T CARE??? We damn well better if that "church" is a source of radical hate toward whites and America, buckaroo. Seriously Warren, I don't know what meds you've been on these past few months, but you might look in to having them adjusted....

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

She can when Osama comes clean about HIS church as well, or don't you think the Chocolate Messiah needs to do that...?

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Go Dennis!

Monty

Warren, this is weak beyond description:

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

But these are extremely relevant:

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-AMERICAN STANCE OF HIS CHURCH

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN COMMUNIST STANCE OF HIS ASSOCIATES

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN HIS MUSLIM ASSOCIATIONS AND BACKGROUND

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN WHY HE CAN'T PRODUCE A CERTIFIED HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE

OldMan

OldMan said:

Warren, this is weak beyond description:

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

But these are extremely relevant:

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-AMERICAN STANCE OF HIS CHURCH

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN COMMUNIST STANCE OF HIS ASSOCIATES

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN HIS MUSLIM ASSOCIATIONS AND BACKGROUND

OBAMA MUST EXPLAIN WHY HE CAN'T PRODUCE A CERTIFIED HAWAIIAN BIRTH CERTIFICATE

OldMan

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Sing it, Bro.

WB: Congratulations, you just made my IGNORE list -

I'm sick and tired of your Anti-Christian CRAP!

Hasta La Vista Baby!

Fleataxi

So many GREAT responses to this MSM nonsense!!!!!!!
You can see how desperate some folks are to see him win the election.

Heaven forbid if Sarah Palin cares enough about Israel and the Jews of the world. Chastise her for caring enough about them to wish them the best, including salvation? We are living in an amazing age; one that the word of our Lord foretold thousands of years ago.
On the other hand we have a man who has been characterized as the chocolate messiah. He has proven himself to be a man of devious means; hiding the truth behind a veil of secrecy for reasons we can only guess. If he is not the antichrist as some have wondered, he would certainly fit the mold for the false prophet that promotes the antichrist's ideology. You might even call him the False Prophet in Training.

Oilpatch Hand said:

It's questionable whether "the point" was worth making in the first place, since it appears that the author of the article has confused overzealous evangelism with anti-semitism.

A fundamentalist can seek to convert another without wishing to do that person harm.

Now, as to Barry Soetoro's Palestinian/radical Islamist friends...no, they're not really trying to convert Jews. They would rather, apparently, simply kill them instead, as the nightly news attests on a daily basis.

And, wonder of wonders, there isn't a Arab group on this side of the pond or the other that has failed to endorse Mr. Soetoro.

It appears that the author of the article wasn't thinking too clearly.

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I agree with Warren: GET RELIGION OUT OF POLITICS.

To the Christians on this board: Jews don't WANT you to convert them. Your suggestions are an insult to them. Why do they NEED to be converted? Jesus was a Jew.

I think WB wants to find an argument to justify his vote for Obambi. He hopes to post something, anything that people will agree with then he can say that is why he is voting for Bambi.

FL, I want to know if a presidential candidate is a member of a radical religious group. If you don't, fine. I'm sure that Afghanistan would be more to your liking. They don't do a "religious test" there either....

D_el said:

So many GREAT responses to this MSM nonsense!!!!!!!
You can see how desperate some folks are to see him win the election.

Heaven forbid if Sarah Palin cares enough about Israel and the Jews of the world. Chastise her for caring enough about them to wish them the best, including salvation? We are living in an amazing age; one that the word of our Lord foretold thousands of years ago.
On the other hand we have a man who has been characterized as the chocolate messiah. He has proven himself to be a man of devious means; hiding the truth behind a veil of secrecy for reasons we can only guess. If he is not the antichrist as some have wondered, he would certainly fit the mold for the false prophet that promotes the antichrist's ideology. You might even call him the False Prophet in Training.

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Excellent points, it's amazing to me how people are so willingly deceived and seduced into voting for someone who promises them tidbits of other people's money and will sell their souls down the river to do it. Satan had mankind pegged millennia ago when he told God that mankind will ultimately turn their backs on God in exchange for their own perceived material well-being.
There are actually Christians who will vote for this character Obama.

fruit loop said:

Why do they NEED to be converted? Jesus was a Jew.

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Because the path to Heaven lies through belief in Jesus Christ?

If Jews do not believe in Christ, what do you think happens to them when they die? Or anyone else who does not believe?

Dennis Olson said:

SHOULDN'T CARE??? We damn well better if that "church" is a source of radical hate toward whites and America, buckaroo. Seriously Warren, I don't know what meds you've been on these past few months, but you might look in to having them adjusted....

PALIN MUST EXPLAIN ANTI-SEMITIC STANCE OF HER CHURCH

She can when Osama comes clean about HIS church as well, or don't you think the Chocolate Messiah needs to do that...?

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Why? I am really asking this. On another thread yesterday a moderator said it was a personal attack when someone suggested a med adjustment. "Chocolate Messiah"????? Really Dennis??? I feel very sad that you have fallen to this sort of degraded talk.

Both candidates have attended churches that aren't exactly the middle of the road Christianity. So???? So have I over the years but that doesn't make me an extremist. It just means at one time I have attended.

Dennis, there are some groups that want to turn America into a Christian Afghanistan. The Pentecostals are a dominionist group. Read up on them. They want Bible-based (and THEIR interpretation of it) law to be the law of the land.

You may see a Americastan someday, if you're real unlucky, because they've got it in for you as a Mormon.

Walker, I believe that everyone will eventually be reconciled with God. I don't agree that "Jews go to hell." Unless you think that millions of Jews who were burned in Auschwitz just because of their religion are also "burning in hell"?? (I DARE you to answer that one)

Gardia, neither candidate belongs to a "middle of the road" church. I do believe, however, that Obama, unlike Palin, will keep his beliefs out of politics.

Jesus, of course, still is Jewish.

Wishing to peacefully convert a person from one religion to another is still better than vowing to behead all the infidels, killing everybody who doesn't think exactly like you do. The jihaters kill each other readily.

Palin's church is less offensive than Osama's, but I'm writing in Dr Ron Paul who goes by the Constitution and common sense.

If only there were a Religion of Common Sense ... oh, there is, but it's so practical and mild that nobody is interested

yawn...this is silly. Anti-Semetic? the woman in the VP debate spoke of her views on Israel. It's Obama we need to worry about.

If the "good Rabbi" had been listening, he would already know Sarah's stance.
Even though the Obama machine canceled her speech at the protest to Iran's midget, she still published it...

"L'shana tova (wish for a good year)

"Never again will we risk another Holocaust. And this is not a wish, a request, or a plea to Israel's enemies. This is a promise that the United States and Israel will honor, against any enemy who cares to test us. It is John McCain's promise and it is my promise." -- Sarah Palin, 22 September 2008

Any questions?
wardogs

fruit loop said:

Walker, I believe that everyone will eventually be reconciled with God.

I agree with you Fruit Loop...one way or the other.

I don't agree that "Jews go to hell."

It doesn't matter what you or I believe, what matters is what God says.

Unless you think that millions of Jews who were burned in Auschwitz just because of their religion are also "burning in hell"?? (I DARE you to answer that one)

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Bad person to dare Fruit Loop. Millions of Jews were not burned at Auschwitz, they were interred in slave labor/concentration camps because they were viewed as an internal threat to the Nazi regime.

Again, what happens to those who don't believe in Christ when they die?

Warren Bone said:

October 7, 2008 (Fort Lee, NJ) -- In a Shalom TV editorial, Rabbi Mark S. Golub, president of American Jewry's national cable television network, expressed his concern that both the Jewish and secular media has not asked Alaska Governor Sarah Palin to clarify her position on the intrinsic religious integrity of Judaism and the Jewish People.

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Walker10 said:

Rabbi loses license over sex charges
The Associated Press

The Washington Times - February 19, 1998


NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (AP) - Mark A. Golub, a local rabbi who has worked as a mental health counselor, was stripped of his professional counseling license for having sexual relations with a female client, according to a Virginia disciplinary order.

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WB- This type of trashy trollish thread belongs on a trashy trollish board- not on TB2k.

Too bad Palin didn't attend a church where a married minister was having sex with someone else's wife in the church allthewhile preaching, "Goddamn America!"

Then we could give her a pass.

Rabbi loses license over sex charges
The Associated Press

The Washington Times - February 19, 1998


NEWPORT NEWS, Va. (AP) - Mark A. Golub

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Wrong Rabbi Golub. This is Mark A. Golub. In the OP, it's Mark S. Golub.

Desperado said:

But but she has an Israeli flag in her office and sometimes wears one on her lapel...... Now that has to account for something.

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Proof please.