ECON Could owning gold be banned? Hedge fund warning.

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Could owning gold be banned? Hedge fund warning.
By Rob Mackinlay

The manager of a gold hedge fund has warned that governments have banned owning gold in the past and could do it again if a rush for “the oldest currency in the world” undermines efforts to resurrect the financial system.


Mark Mahaffey, co-manager of Hinde Capital, pointed out that the sale of one ounce gold coins – known as golden eagles – in the US had been halted and reports earlier this month said that South Africa had run out of gold krugerands after a Swiss buyer bought 5000 coins.

Mahaffey said that the US had banned owning gold in 1933 and that if the current crisis is worsened by a rush for gold, governments might act.

He said: “The worst thing for any kind of central banking crisis is everyone buying the oldest currency in the world. Buying gold is a clear sign that investors don’t have confidence in the financial system."

He said that the problem at the moment was that too many people had too much debt and that central banks hoping to address this could devalue everything else in the system.

The fear for anyone who is in credit is that the financial system could become geared towards negating debt which, in turn, would destroy the value of their assets. One way of bypassing this threat is to buy gold.

However a general shift to gold would undermine the power of central banks and their influence on the economy.

Back in 1933 President Roosevelt’s Executive Order 6102 banned the “hoarding of gold coin, gold bullion, and gold certificates” known as the Gold Confiscation of 1933. It forced US citizens to sell to Federal Reserve at $20 an ounce. Shortly afterwards the price of gold was raised to $35.

The move was not intended to restore confidence in banks but to prevent cash escaping from the system controlled by central banks.

Such a move may seem far-fetched but a number of governments have already intervened in commodity trading through futures markets. These interventions were made because of fears that investors in food and fuel futures may have been pushing up prices.

Pressure was put on politicians to curb speculation as food and fuel prices soared earlier this year. However experts remain divided over whether the inflows of new cash into these markets had actually driven up the prices.

Governments, including the US, were prepared to act to curb speculation in commodities despite the ongoing debate - although the arguments appeared more one sided in the UK: The FT joins the establishment herd: has the debate on commodities speculation closed?

In the US politicians of all hues support legislation that limits speculation on commodities markets and increases market transparency.

http://www.investegate.co.uk/invarticle.aspx?id=58539
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Yes it could happen again.

Especially if all the nations and foreign banks that hold US Gov Notes and Bonds demand to be cashed out with gold, instead of inflated US Federal Reserve notes that no longer have the full faith and trust of the US Government behind them.

I'm calling for an Audit of US Gov gold reserves. I believe we don't have any gold anymore. In my personal opinion it's been used up as a tool in holding things together over the last several years and repeatedly dumped onto the marketplace to hold the price of gold down. The price of gold is an external indicator of our inflation rate. If the price of gold was going up an up in USD and not in other countries currencies people would eventually realize the dollar is declining in value. Notice they don't report the M3 figure anymore?

When the evidence is presented that the Chinese and others want either gold or they're going to start repossessing peoples homes. The US government response will be the same as before...give up your gold we need it, citizens don't. The government will start a public relations campaign who's theme will be "if you have gold you are an unpatriotic evil person and present a danger to your country and fellow citizens".

Or maybe they will just announce what I've said here on Tuesday the 7th.....Then the hammer will drop!
 

atvJim

Inactive
The US government is foolish but not that foolish. A gold ban is about the only thing which would spark a revolt. People will surrender their freedom but never their gold. A gold ban will not happen in this country-it is different mentality now. You think folks are gonna give up their bling?

Never happen!
 

Great Northwet

Veteran Member
It sticks in mind that people were allowed to keep up to five ounces. But I don't remember if it was gold, or silver.
 

mikester

Inactive
We're not talking bling, we're talking bullion. Bling was not a part of the original deal either.

I can see it happening. Not so much shameless brazen government hoarding the way FDR did, but the prohibition of the buying or selling of gold bullion. Just to disrupt the domestic gold market and force the honest or lazy people back into the ponzi scheme. They do not want or need the gold, they just cannot have some sheep escaping the slaughter.

They could claim that money is being funneled to terrorists in the form of evil untraceable gold sneaking across the border, and that they have to stop it to prevent another 9/11.

Remember it has only been since Nixon that Americans have been free to own gold again.
 
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