Pretty close to target, there Maher. Don't forget the U.N. has divided the world into ten "Bio-regions", and the U.S. into ten Federal Regions. Put the G-7 in the equation and you do have seven heads and ten horns. So long as you brought it up, ok if we review some of my material from archives on the subject? Actually, some of this dates back to the EZ-Board incarnation of TB2K, but as you note, we had better wake up to the FACT the Beast is with US.
I thought I might post a capsule primmer here for anyone who is UNaware of the facts concerning the UN/IMF/World Bank/Federal Reserve/"U.S. Treasury" in our midst, as essential to UNderstanding what I have written. While I think those are fewer and further between at this point, these are essential informational tools.
Just exactly what did you think the World Bank/International Monetary Fund/ Federal Reserve/ IRS was for, if not to enslave the nations economically by funding that World Communist Movement up at the U.N. through the declared Bankruptcy of the U.S. in Receivership to the Governor of the Fund (Secretary of Treasury) at Bretton Woods, since WWII?
The Secretary of the Treasury is the "Governor" of the International Monetary Fund, Inc. of the U.N. [Public Law 94-564, supra, pg. 5942; U.S. Government Manual 1990/91, pgs. 480-81; 26 U.S.C.A. 7701(a)(11); Treasury Delegation Order No 150-10, 22 USC 286, 22 USC 286a(a)(b)(c)(d), 22 USC 286c, 22 USC 286d, 22 USC 286e, infra,
etc.)
The IMF is an Agency of the UN. (Blacks Law Dictionary 7th Ed. Pg. 822)
While the United States did own and control 19.96% of the IMF, it falls short of the 50% requirement in our federal law, to be a partner in any trading company. Moreover, whenever the United States becomes a trading partner in any trading company, it WAIVES its sovereignty and can only operate pursuant to the charter of the corporation, which are the Articles of Agreement. I'm not saying this... the Supreme Court is: The Bank of the United States vs. Planters Bank of Georgia, 6 L.Ed. 244.
Further, in Mendaro v. World Bank, the Supreme Court gave us this notice:
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"The area office of the Commission dismissed the charges for lack of jurisdiction on 12 February 1980, concluding that the World Bank is an "international governmental agency ... not subject to the laws of the United States or any other member nation ...." (FN20)
Remember, The Fund (IMF) and The Bank (World Bank) are sister International Organizations operating under the United Nations. They exclusively DIRECT, CONTROL, FINANCE and SUBSIDIZE literally EVERY UNIT of local government, using the term "government" loosely, through their fiscal depository agent, the Federal Reserve. Their paper, their game. They control the world financially, just as prophesied. Now they have all the money, they will go for the power. This is exactly what we see presently taking shape, mock concern, shell games, globalIST Swarming, concerned national leaders, or not. Satan is the mastermind, so a thousand interlocking concentric circles of power, with multi-generational plans of the elite, are indeed possible.
Again, the G-7 council of lead economic powers/nations, are truly "Seven heads" consistent with prophetic types, and the UN has divided the world into ten "bio-regions" with North America as Region One. The U.S. has also been divided into ten federal regions. The G-7 basically implements the socio-economic policies and dictates of the Bilderberg, as the IMF/World Bank implements the socio-economic policies of this United Nations/World Communist Movement upon U.S. through "Treasury", and "Congress", by funding mandates enforcable upon literally every unit of what passes for government.
The Beast is with US. Doubt it? Try buying and selling without THEIR number (SSN). Remember that Social Insecurity is an international program of the IMF, with something like 176 member nations as of 1999. This INTERNATIONAL PROGRAMME of the World Communist Movement, is a social engineering and conditioning device which ALREADY has you ensnared inextricably in their illegitimate commercial system, and makes possible the rapid implementation of the economic Mark, in the coming Great Restructuring, and Great Desolation.
A snippet or two on the powers behind the design of the coming cashless world economy may be in order as well, to aid UNderstanding why the commerical aspects are intergral to comprehension.
The Myth of the alleged Bloodline of Christ is essential to The Plan, in that the Illuminati bloodlines (House of Satan) claim direct relation and divine right of rule through this device. The Habsburg Dynasty, (from which the alleged spear which pierced Christ was stolen by Hitler), the Merovingian Dynasty, (of which Godroy de Buillion, Conqueror and ruler of Jerusalem, and Founder of the Order [later "Priory"] of Sion [known as The Kingmakers in certain circles to this day] in 1099 was descended), from which the Knights Templar sprung as the military arm in 1188, from which Hermetic Freemasonry was organized by Grand Master of The Priory of Sion circa 1285, ad nauseum right to the Black Knights of the House of Windsor today.
"Hermetic" of course, evolved from the Greek god Hermes, (the god of "science", eloquence and cunning), known to the Romans as Mercury, and as Odin by the Merovingians, (most of Europes monarchs to the present), who claimed direct descendency from him, and, their history claims, had "powers" with a rather odd red birthmark. Odin, of course, translates "Dan" as in the Israelite "lost" tribe of Dan. Mercury bore the two symbols of the Tribe of Dan, the Eagle and the Serpent.
Archduke Dr. Otto von Habsburg, with his son Karl (heir apparent), spearheaded the movement to unify Europe under the present Union, and in 1992, (the original target date for complete unification), Karl was 31.
The Hapsburg/Merovingian Dynasty (of the alleged "Holy Grail" seed of Magdalene), also ruled the Holy Roman Empire from the 13th century until its last gasp under the Teutonic Kings, and were some of the more arrant murderers and thieves ever to infest "Peter's Chair." This is easily provable from ancient documents, and puts the lie to any attempt to UNtie the papacy or the RCC from the move toward New World Order. Don't forget who was with President GHW Bush and Gorby at Malta when the NWO was officially announced for the first time by an American President.
Invar made an interesting observation in a 2001 discussion of this, which has stuck with me for further consideration, which is that the "Ten Horns" of the Beast could as well refer to "nations", but that geo-political nations are not necessarily at issue so much as the tribes represented by them in Christendom.
These are also the people who commissioned the Burroughs Corporation through the Society for Worldwide Interbank a couple of decades ago to extend the switching system of super-computers affectionately known as The Beast based in Brussels and Luxembourg to an international One World monetary system of computerized cashless society, now complete with real time point of sale throughout Christendom and much of the developed or developing world. You will be locked out of all "legitimate" commerce if you are wise enough to refuse to participate, and the Mark is close behind, with of course enforced worship of the Beast following that measure.
The point is first that America, that is the U.S. Federal Government - Agent and alter-ego of the Fund and The Bank, (both UN), and NYNY in particular - home of the Whore On The Shore - the U.N. AND the Federal Reserve, (as well as IMF HQ in DC), is the base of operations for this movement, well funded by forced contributions from the most productive and ingeneous national people in the history of the world, as well as the theft of our national gold reserves; and basically enforced by our military, as necessary, UNder whatever guise. I know that is over-simplification, but may be essential to grasping this for some.
America, which indisputably began as a Christian Nation, and has been the foremost Christian Missionary nation to the world for around two centuries, also the protector and leader of what remains of European Christendom, has rejected God as a secular majority, and has turned a blind eye to this other collossal evil borne bred and fed here, murders our UNborn by the millions, gave half of former Christendom to Stalin, and so forth, so will indeed suffer greater consequence in judgment than the heathen, based upon immutable Biblical principle. Not that our prayers don't count, or that God won't have His Remnant, just that it is so, and every single Christian who is wilfully ignorant of these things or refuses to oppose them out of rank moral cowardice is accountable in whatever measure God deems appropriate. America is not some accident of history, and was birthed out of Christendom, where the Gospel of Jesus Christ flourished in all the world, since the time of the Apostles.
So anyone who will deny the evidence that the present form of the end-time Beast world economic power has been foisted upon the nations from here in the guise of "charity" and "re-development", is away up river in Egypt with their head up to their nether regions in the sand. The UN has as its symbol, "...the earth from the sides of the north". Look it up in your Bible. The UN does export false religion and is antichrist to the core.
There is no other international entity, nation, city, military power, empire, economic system, etc., which fits these end time prophecies of the Beast power and end-time Babylon. One may of course hold an amillenialist or preterist view, and deny there is any such thing as a literal fulfillment of these prophecies. The historicist view is also very popular, apparently for the ability to relegate all of this to the past and don't worry, be happy.
The "pre-trib" view seems to typically evade dealing with the evidence or accountability by holding the belief it is simply not the legitimate concern of the Church, because they will be gone, when it is transpiring in real time right under their noses.
Did I leave anybody out?
Get your house in order, brothers and sisters.
NOW, dust off your bibles.
Rev. 17:8 "...they behold the beast because it was, and is not, and shall be present." (corrected translation)
With 17:11 "And the beast that WAS, AND IS NOT.."
(KJV, emphasis added)
Now John, friends, was imprisoned by the Roman Empire at that writing, which assuredly was extant at the very moment the Holy Spirit declared that the end-time beast "..is not.."
What will you do with that?
While I would never minimize the role of the E.U. in the formation of World Government, fellows, where does anyone obtain any scriptural authority whatever to maintain that a revived Roman Empire can be "The Beast", when John the Revelator speaks by the Holy Spirit that this cannot be? I do not say that the Papacy will not figure prominently in the final apostacy and the role of the false prophet, either, simply that looking to the EU, (lemme see, how many horns does it have now?), as the end-time beast, or even confusing Daniel's vision of the golden image with the image of Daniel seven, is error.
Rev. 17:8 "...The beast that you saw was, and is not; and SHALL ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet IS.
So we see that the angel explains to John that the beast he saw SAW, IS NOT and SHALL ascend -- not "shall be present" the Greek word translated "ascendeth" is from 'anabaino' - meaning to 'go-up' or 'rise'. No derivative of anabaino in Greek can possibly mean "remain" or "be present" as some claim. It means 'rise' , ascend etc. So the angel is clearly telling John that the Beast he saw that was not SHALL (future tense) ascendeth.
Verse 9: "And here is the mind which has wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sits. (Don't forget NYNY has seven Boroughs, check the topo.)
Verse 10: And there are seven kings: five are fallen, one is, and the other is not yet come ; and when he comes, he must continue a short while.
The complication in verse 10 comes when understanding WHEN the key of understanding this prophetic verse was given. Verse 9 doesn't tell us that JOHN was given wisdom of the meaning of these verses, it said "And here is the mind which has wisdom" - or in our modern lingo - "to the mind that has understanding".
Understanding comes from God, and through study of history and scripture, I think the key to 'unlocking' verses 9 & 10 came in the mid 1930's through understanding the lineage of empires that succeeded Nebuchadnezzar in the book of Daniel.
Verse 11: And the beast that was, and is not, even he is the eighth, and is of the seven, and goes into perdition
The end-time beast is of the seven. As to which one of the seven, we may well disagree, but that is not the point here (yet) either, except for the fact that it cannot be the Roman Empire.
Look again at the words "is not".
"not"= ou = no/not= "expressing full and direct negation, independently and absolutely: not depending on any condition expressed or implied."
All the rest is superfluous, if we cannot agree on this stated literal absolute.
The Scripture plainly declares through John the Revelator that the Roman Empire, which John was imprisoned by at that writing, cannot be the endtime Beast. The words "is not" are definative. John was imprisoned by the Roman Empire, the Beast that would ascend again out of time from among the sucessive empires shown the prophet DID NOT EXIST when John prophesied. It is plainly stated, and I do not think it is open to interpretation in this case.
The EU is NOT the UN although it figures prominently. It is NOT the HQ of the UN/IMF.
There is a Beast and there is a Whore who rides the Beast, and there is a False Prophet.
There is a worldwide economic system that funds End-Time Babylon (IMF/Bank/Fund), there is a world political structure different (diverse) from any before it (UN) that rises to power on this economic base, and there is a Final Dictator and his enforced world false religion that rise on that power base.
We are going to need to go to Daniel 7. "Horns", however, in this case, (IMO) are "kingdoms" or "regions" in the prophetic symbology, and we already have the world divided into those under the UN. Also, I do not hold that the U.S. will be utterly destroyed, as some do, but certainly that NYNY (a hell of a town) will most likely "burn", at the second "fallen". The first "fallen", I hold, is ECONOMIC!
The Word does not leave us clueless, but interprets for the most part what we read. We are told in this passage of the judgment of the great whore that sits on many waters, with whom the kings of the earth commit fornication, or idolatry. We are told that woman is that great city, which reigns over the kings of the earth.
The city described here is pre-eminently, if not exclusively, a commercial city. The center of world trade and commerce where filthy lucre is worshipped with all the evil the love of it is the root of. There is nothing military, nothing educational, nothing ecclesiastical, even alluded to. It is the merchants that mourn her when she is fallen. Ships and the sea are prominent here.
It cannot, therefore, be Rome, for Rome was never a center of commerce, and certainly is not some world center now.
"..That reigns over the kings of the earth" is key, I believe, and do not forget that she rides the Beast of world government. She is the consort of TPTB.
There is only one city to match this description in the earth today, and it is New York New York. The volume and velocity of exchange of money and goods surpasses anything in the history of the world. The UN Beast with all its abominations, enslaving the nations of the world through the IMF/WorldBank, with its six-sided meditation room representing the combination of all the major religions of the earth, antichrist to the core and exporting its false religion world wide. The largest volume of trade at any seaport in the world occurs daily at the port of "Babylon, Long Island".
The name or secret symbol or "musterion" fits as well. "New York" can be made of "Babylon the Great".
The "waters which thou sawest, where the whore sitteth, are peoples, and multitudes, and nations and tongues" should not confuse the literal application in the least. There is a literal application and there is the symbolic representation of her far-reaching power.
As I stated above, I believe the "is fallen, is fallen" of Rev. 18:2 describes two distinct and successive falls. The first is economic and the second literal desruction. As "woe, woe, woe" means in 8:13 three distinct and separate woes, so "fallen, fallen" means two separate events.
Even as in 17:16 these horns are going to make her desolate and naked, then eat her flesh and burn her with fire.
So the beast in confederation with the ten horns, which are not only regions but kingdoms and their respective kings, appear to turn on her shortly after Antichrist comes on the scene, and spoil her wealth, but she continues to exist for a time, sitting even as a boastful queen promising herself immortality, and some of God's people are called out of her shortly before she is utterly destroyed. That this speaks to a city and not the nation appears consistent with careful interpretation.
There is a reason Jerusalem is called Spiritual Babylon in the Scripture, and I believe it is at and during this time frame that Antichrist is received there as "..One who comes in his own name.." (The prophesy of Jesus Christ), the false messiah, and Beast Headquarters moves.
Much of the confusion concerning "Babylon" is a lack of understanding of how far reaching the concept of Babylon the End-time Empire/Beast really is; politically, spiritually, and so forth. 200 and some nations enslaved and in the trap at the IMF/UN at present, primed for absolute control by economic stranglehold. That the "Mother of Harlots" is only a ruling city in a much larger scheme seems to confuse some, and this need not be.
While we are at it, we may as well get full circle to Rome and there is your leading candidate for "False Prophet", for he must be a leader of apostate "Christianity", have established influence with the masses, and already be a player in the inner circles of power.
One of my main problems with the traditional theories regarding a "Revived Roman Empire" BEING the End Time Beast is that this is used continually of Satan to blind Christians, especially Americans, to what is going on right under their noses, and has been for more than 50 years, as they run like sheep to the slaughter to volunteer their tax pesos to enslave the world.
This does not mean, however, that a European Confederation will not play a major role. It only means that if you mistake one for the other, you risk missing the understanding that can only come with identifying the players. I do not advance these things, BTW, as the know all see all, but as my own opinions formed in careful study and research of many years, based first upon the Scripture and second upon a better than average knowledge of the power structures, cabals, macro-economic engines, and etc., that make up The Beast. I have had my head in that garbage can because I believe the LORD said, "Dig", long before there was a public internet.
One more disclaimer. God can allow to develop, at lightning speed, things which are outside our present knowledge, and make unfulfilled shadows and types, or warnings and harbingers, of our puny knowledge. We see through a glass darkly, unless the Spirit illuminates.
Still, I hold some of these things as born of Spirit led conviction, and expect to see them play out in our natural lifetimes.
I am going to try not to write a book here, as it is plain that we are mostly good students, and these things are not by any means new if one has been digging long. Instead, I will try to highlight specific keys that if accepted will engender understanding.
I would mention in passing that one of the battle standards/crests of the ten Teutonic Kings, (German), that comprised the last gasp of the Holy Roman Empire nearly 500 years past now, was a winged leopard. I would have to dig into some musty volumes around here somewhere to prove that, and I know that Iraq has been advanced, but I say keep an eye on Germany. There is power there that has been preserved economically by longstanding western/globalist alliances, but this is only anecdotal.
When Bible students pound Daniel's golden image straight into Daniel 7,(I did not say they are unrelated), they need a bigger hammer designed for square pegs and round holes.
The "shall arise" of 7:17 is future to Daniel's time. We can argue that if you like, but I think this position is defensible.
The Revelations Beast of 7:7, which most agree is one and the same, is "diverse", or different in its form and goverment, from all the other beasts, or kingdoms.
When we understand that this is a separate End-time vision to the prophet that does not flow through history from his time to ours (types and shadows not withstanding), the whole thing becomes far less obscure. If you cannot agree to consider this interpretation, I think you are going to miss a real blessing here.
Another vital key to this passage is the word "before".
That word is "quodam" in the Chaldee, and it ALWAYS means "IN THE PRESENCE OF", and NEVER, "preceding in time." If memory serves, it is used thirty some times in Daniel, and you can study that out.
When we get that one truth through our heads, the thing begins to crystalize.
What this means in context is that these beasts seen here are contemporary and co-existent, not some parade of history. They are a picture of a given period of time where they are the players in the final act.
If we accept this, it becomes fairly difficult to miss the British Empire with America birthed out of her here, Russia, and so forth.
The diverse final Revelation Beast pictured here notably devours (consumes or ingests) the other beasts, but they continue to co-exist. This fits perfectly what we have with the IMF/UN, especially the part where the other beasts are broken in pieces (Bio-Regions), while they continue to exist "before"="in the presence of" the Beast.
When and if the "Little Horn" arises and controls a federation that includes three Bio-Regions of the earth, the obstinate are going to have to admit of this interpretation.
You will note at 7:12 that the rest of the beasts pictured continue as nations even when the Little Horn federation has broken their economic strength, usurped their national sovereignty, and wrested control of The Beast from their grasp. Yes, I know I am interpreting now, but you look at it with the picture I just illustrated from Revelation on the Whore, and see how perfectly it all fits.
Now here is where I will readily admit that a European Confederation can be the vehicle the Little Horn rises to power upon, but I believe it will have to be more than that.
This is also where you can take your list of prominent names and men and speculate all you like, but I have not been able to lay hands on the names of those who are assigned as governors over the Bio-Regions at present.
Well, that's my take to date, and like I said, I am open to instruction if you have definative proofs that I have done violence to the language somewhere.
The classic historicist that receives the traditional view promulgated by most churches for the past few hundred years is in good company with famous men like Hal Lindsey, but then I have never held that being in the majority opinion made anyone right.
I fully expect us to go under the Beast kingdom, at least for a time, as national judgment. After all, we already have, to large extent. The urbanized sheople will line up for food and the mark, as near as I can tell. We are in deep you know what!
I take great comfort in passages like, "..but they that understand among the people shall instruct many.."
with "..but the people that know their God shall be wax mighty, and do exploits." Daniel 12:
You take the "eagle/man" in the prophecy for America, and you have one of the beasts pictured.
Now you go to Daniel 7:12 where you find the lives of these beasts contemporary with The Beast conquered in the sense of their "dominion", influence and empire taken away; "yet their lives were prolonged for a season and a time."
Here is where the "total destruction of America by fire" prophetic wannabees leave the rails, IMO, and whatever happens after that "season and a time" wherein Antichrist has already established his readily recognizable kingdom in the earth, there is really not much of time left to speculate over, is there? Not that it wouldn't be nice to have it all on video ahead of time.. , but after all it is the better course that sends us runnning to God and to His Word for counsel, eh?
So you dovetail the destruction of the Whore in here and you have exactly what it says: a CITY.
Those who would like to believe God left the mightiest nation in the history of the world out of The Book and end-time prophecy, be my guests in this prophecy class. Those who do not think God will require much of US for the light we have please join them. Those who believe America is not presently under divine judgment, have another qualude.
Those who think you can take a historicist view of Daniel 7, please have another look at qodam, because there is no scriptural way around that meaning. Those who think you will not see exactly what II Thess. 2 plainly declares precedes Christ's coming for His Church, in the recognition of Antichrist coming to power and apostasy, please prepare anyway, both spiritually and physically, if you wish to be of any use, as opposed to being pinned down under enemy fire.
Blessings,
Tras
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"They who have put out the people's eyes reproach them of their blindness."
John Milton, 1642
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