ALERT Potential lawsuit against UB's - perhaps a Class Action?

Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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First, I am only posting this to maximize exposure to the membership for potential participation in a Class Action, NOT to start yet another board war. I am not interested in the responses posted on UB's, nor do I wish to be informed as to any post content. Period. This thread will be taken down fairly quickly, so bear that in mind. That being said....

It appears that UB's may have PO'd the wrong person this time around; someone who has the money and desire to take the fight to Mr. Postier (who runs the place). I have already been contacted by the pending plaintiff for potential testimony, and have agreed to provide it should the suit go that far. This post is to ask you all:

Have you been legitimately/legally defamed or slandered by the UB site? Have you been cyber-stalked by them? Have you had them come after you in real life? If so, would you be willing to become part of a Class Action lawsuit against Mr. Postier?

If so, please PM me with your real-life contact information, as well as your tale(s) of misery at their collective hand. I will forward this information to the pending plaintiff for action/inclusion by the attorney. Let me know.

And let's not make this yet another tiresome thread that details what's wrong with them over there (or what's wrong with us over here, for that matter.) I'm only interested in assisting this person in his/her attempt to beat-down Mr. Postier once and for all. If ever there was a person who desperately needed to lose his livelihood and everything he owns, he's the man....
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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We don't talk about them on the forum. If you don't know, you don't WANNA know, trust me on that. Suffice to say it's a website dedicated to spewing hatred toward myself and this forum. It's populated by people who have been shown the door here for their absolute inability to behave in even a marginally decent manner toward others. A more vile cesspool of humanity you cannot imagine. (It's worse than the Mos Isley Spaceport in Star Wars - ;))
 
Hfcomms

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I'd let sleeping dogs lie and let U.B.'s slide into the dustbin of internet history. Time is too short and the issues of the day too important to get into a pissing contest at this late date. But, you were the one primarily that was slimed the most.

I don't think I need to point out to you what the Lord would ask us to do about those who slander us. Sort of reminds me what a certain talk show host wanted to do to you and this board over negative comments about him here. That was his one action that caused me to put him in the catagory of a grossly over inflated ego and not worth listening to anymore.
 
pugdog

pugdog

Membership Revoked
:rolleyes:

If I sued everyone who offended or slandered me on the internet I would need several hundred years. And yes I have heard what they said at ub.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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One cannot simply allow criminal behavior to be committed without consequence Hfcomms. When it goes from simple Internet posts to people actually attempting to ruin one's REAL LIFE, well, there ARE laws against that kind of thing, and consequences for it.


Tick tock.....
 
G

georgia101

Veteran Member
I wouldn't want to take any legal action. As was already said, if I sued every time my feelings got hurt I would be in court all of the time. I'd just let it go.
 
WildDaisy

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
I dont think many of us can be "legally" defamed like Dennis would be. They would need to know your real name, real location and real contact information for that to be true. For most of us, that isnt the case.

For those they have done it to, I am sure they won't get away with it this time.


Mos Eisley...heh..true dat.
 
fruit loop

fruit loop

Inactive
They've reached into real life and tried to get people fired, thrown out of their church, harass spouses, violated copyright by copying and posting private property....

Don't underestimate the power of the net to ruin someone's life. Lots of employers now Google candidates, and they won't bother to find out if what they see is true or not.

There comes a point when something is no longer sour grapes, harmless fun, childish bitching...and they went beyond it long ago.
 
expose'

expose'

The Pulse......
hah!
I haven't thought of that site in years!
I can't believe they were still so immature and reckless over there...:shk:

Some people really DO need a building to fall on their heads...:shr: Duh!
 
Hfcomms

Hfcomms

EN66iq
Dennis Olson said:
One cannot simply allow criminal behavior to be committed without consequence Hfcomms.
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Understood...and you know better than anyone else as to the actions that were taken. To pursue this because laws were broken is one thing and should be done. If your true motivation is vengence then your heart is in the wrong place, and only you know what your motivation is...nobody else.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Hell, it isn't even ME that's doing this. I'll just sign-on when the lawyers come out from under their rocks... ;)
 
RobinYyes

RobinYyes

Inactive
Dennis,

I agree with some who have the opinion that taking this to court is the wrong way to go.

Additionaly, giving out my personal information so that it may be forwarded to some un-named person who may or may not use my personal information to build up his/her own unknown 'case' for an action that may or may not be used is a gamble that I don't think any on this site should take. Why isn't this un-named member bringing it up themself?

Sorry Dennis this isn't a slam on you and, I don't mean to be a wet blanket here, but the whole thing seems rather high-schoolish to me.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Well, if it's high-schoolish to want some JUSTICE for ongoing and egregious wrongdoing and criminal activity, then so be it. If I came to see you and then beat the hell outta you with a club - you wouldn't sue me or press charges, right? Cuz that'd be kinda high-schoolish.

As far as peoples' personal info: if they want to be part of the lawsuit, then that information is required for the attorney to contact them. Note that I'm not making this a condition of membership. Geez....
 
RobinYyes

RobinYyes

Inactive
Dennis Olson said:
Well, if it's high-schoolish to want some JUSTICE for ongoing and egregious wrongdoing and criminal activity, then so be it. If I came to see you and then beat the hell outta you with a club - you wouldn't sue me or press charges, right? Cuz that'd be kinda high-schoolish.

As far as peoples' personal info: if they want to be part of the lawsuit, then that information is required for the attorney to contact them. Note that I'm not making this a condition of membership. Geez....
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Dennis, I said I wasn't personally attacking you; please try to accept that and not attack me for disagreeing with the information that is given.

You and the 'person' have all the information, we do not. I'm simply saying that I can't think anyone here would want to blindly give out personal information without more information, and that at this point -with the information given so far- it looks pretty shallow to go to all this trouble to go after a site that will continue to do what it does even if they have to build another site.

You yourself have said on many occasions to just ignore them, and now you are irritated with me for saying the same in an admittedly incorrect way.

So please don't be angry with me, for not saying it in a more acceptable way. I just think its a bad idea all around is all.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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*I* still choose to ignore them Robin, and will continue to do so. However, if the opportunity availed itself for me to provide corroboration of illegal activity on the part of UB's and/or Mr. Postier, I would be more than happy to do so. If others want the potential opportunity to do the same, well, that's what this thread is about. I decided to assist should the lawsuit go forward, and should my testimony be requested. Others are free to join-up should they so choose.

And that's as far as I'm taking it. Since I am not the protagonist in this, I just felt it important to let people know that there might be a venue coming available to allow them some justice. Really, that's all this is about.
 
Ravekid

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
Well, if it's high-schoolish to want some JUSTICE for ongoing and egregious wrongdoing and criminal activity, then so be it. If I came to see you and then beat the hell outta you with a club - you wouldn't sue me or press charges, right? Cuz that'd be kinda high-schoolish.

As far as peoples' personal info: if they want to be part of the lawsuit, then that information is required for the attorney to contact them. Note that I'm not making this a condition of membership. Geez....
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No offense to the original person who wants to push on with this, but in a class action, the only people who really ever see "justice" are the lawyers. Their fees will eat up a lot of the justice. If someone is paying a lawyer for this action, that person obviously has money to burn, as I don't see this being a winning case. For starters, it seems that if anyone has a case, it would be you, only because your real name has been used. Anyone suing because their "handle" name has been wronged is going to get laughed out of court. Just remember, if you go forward with this, you had best be ready to have your life turned upside down. The documentation you are going to need is huge. As a plaintiff, _you_ must prove _your_ case. If you claim something and UBs is successful as showing there is a discrepancy, or that you are incorrect, you lose, at least that aspect. Any lies or mis-truths you have done in the past will be brought out and used to paint you as a liar, an idiot, or whatever the defense thinks will be the best in their case. Don't forget your friends and family could also be dragged into this as well. I always view these cases based on one thing: If a lawyer takes it pro-bono and will only get paid if you win, then you have a case. If you have to shell out money at the start, not a good thing in my opinion.
 
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Ravekid

Ravekid

Veteran Member
Dennis Olson said:
*I* still choose to ignore them Robin, and will continue to do so. However, if the opportunity availed itself for me to provide corroboration of illegal activity on the part of UB's and/or Mr. Postier, I would be more than happy to do so. If others want the potential opportunity to do the same, well, that's what this thread is about. I decided to assist should the lawsuit go forward, and should my testimony be requested. Others are free to join-up should they so choose.

And that's as far as I'm taking it. Since I am not the protagonist in this, I just felt it important to let people know that there might be a venue coming available to allow them some justice. Really, that's all this is about.
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Are you 100% sure the original plaintiff is not going to be asking the members who join the suit not to start helping with the legal bills?
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I am 100% sure that the original plaintiff will NOT be asking for financial assistance. And I can't discuss any particulars at all, both because I don't know what's going on so far, and because I wouldn't tip-off the opposition if I did know.
 
T

Troke

Deceased
"...Don't underestimate the power of the net to ruin someone's life. Lots of employers now Google candidates, and they won't bother to find out if what they see is true or not..."

And easily forseeable. Amazing what people will do when they are pretty sure they will remain anonymous. Some philosophers are of the opinion that will kill the Web because nothing on it will be trustworthy.

I was a school teacher, I would be real worried about some kid going on the net and accusing me of 'playing house' with little girls. And in those cases, the accusation is the proof. You are dog-meat right there and there isn't a thing you can do about it.

MY DD quit teaching when the locals set up a web page where they could bad-mouth the teaches anonymously. Parents thought it a hoot. Teachers didn't. She was replaced by an Indian (as in India) I think. No Americans were qualified to take the job.
 
Hansa44

Hansa44

Justine Case
And you're 100% certain someone's not just pulling your leg so they have more to write about over there?
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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Interesting to see those coming out against this. Perhaps they have something to hide.
 
Satanta

Satanta

Stone Cold Crazy
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That was todays first lesson vie Trokes post.

each one of you coming out and saying "Don't do it!" coming out with reasons it "Won't work"

Are now under suspicion by many members coming in and reading this thread.

See how simple it is?

UB's has done all those things noted somewhere above for years. It is silly and self-centered for posters to think they only do it to TB. Perhaps the Pope is suing them, copied the UB database and contacted Dennis.

We do not know and unless you want to be involved or want to know truth, perhaps you should not deny the person or Dennis or whomever their joy.

BTW...I do not think anyone posting so far is from UB's. Don't care as long as you do not disrupt this board or we do not catch you ceoss-posting.

Todays lesson is over.
 
fruit loop

fruit loop

Inactive
Interesting to see those coming out against this. Perhaps they have something to hide.

I was thinking the same thing.

I don't give a crap about money. I don't care if I never see a dime. What I want is for a JUDGE to tell them that "free speech" doesn't mean anything goes, including harassment.
 
mole

mole

Doomer Granny
Dennis, one question.

Would you be giving testimony as Dennis Olson personally (what has been said about only you) or as the president/owner/representative of TB2K, Inc. (what has been posted about members of this forum or this forum specifically)?
 
dimensiondancer

dimensiondancer

Inactive
Funny, go ahead and think what you may, but I'd never heard of UB's or "the place" until FL accused me of posting over there due to the words I had used. I swear I'd never been over there and yet I get accused of being a poster there. I believe she is still accusing others of posting there as well, so pot stirring and advertising aside, I would say those that get the ribbing over there are the same ones here who are upset.

So, it was FL's advertising the place that brought it to my attention, otherwise I would have never known about it.

Sticks and stones. Don't make false accusations or else they may come true. Sounds like a witch hunt.
 
Dennis Olson

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Mole, how would I know that? I haven't even been contacted by the attorney yet, and I would assume that would be up to him/her. I'm not even going to be directly involved (unless we end up certifying a class). I'd just be a single witness.
 
mole

mole

Doomer Granny
Dennis Olson said:
Mole, how would I know that?
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:shr:

I assumed that whomever contacted you had explained in what capacity they wanted you to participate...hence the question.

Testifying about attacks against only you is just that, it involves only you. Testifying and verifying threats/attacks against other members here would be something else altogether and could potentially open a huge can of worms...and some folks here might not want to be worms.
 
mole

mole

Doomer Granny
I know that Dennis. I know you protect all of our privacy to the greatest extent possible. I was just curious in how they approached you.

no worries...you do what you think is best and and the most judicious.
 
J

Just Plain Mom

Rockin' the Ozarks
Ordinarily, I'd say that it's best to "consider the source" and just walk away.

However, if people have reached out across the phone lines (OK, I'm still on dial-up) to mess with a person's personal life, that crosses a line, imho.

The way I understand it (please correct me if I'm wrong), Dennis, you have been contacted by someone who chooses to pursue it, because you, Dennis, have been the object of such a line-crossing. You've started this thread to let others know that this option is available, open to others if they, too, have been made the object of this line-crossing. You're not involving US...you're letting us know in case we want to be involved. If specifically asked to testify as anything other than an individual, you'd let us know and get permission ahead of time. Did I get that right?

Because in that case, I think that's your decision to make. I haven't had the pleasure (:rolleyes:), nor do I know how it has affected you (to what extent), but if I were a guy who's tried to be honest with all, only to have someone, shielded by virtual anonymity, mess with my private life...I can see where you might want to go some place with that.

jmho
 
Brutus

Brutus

Inactive
There was a time when men handled personal affronts the way they were meant to be handled: They stepped outside and removed their coats and hats and went at it.

Alas, now we've been reduced to filing lawsuits against one another.

Who ever is in charge over at UB's just needs a good ass whippin'.

:rolleyes:
 
fruit loop

fruit loop

Inactive
Who ever is in charge over at UB's just needs a good ass whippin'.

That's the kind of perversion they enjoy over there.
 
RobinYyes

RobinYyes

Inactive
Satanta said:
Interesting to see those coming out against this. Perhaps they have something to hide.
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Seriously? And now just for voicing an opinion I'm under 'suspicion'? Okay :shr: Pick up your pitchforks and have at me; I have nothing to hide except my personal information which is why I objected anyway. I guess not wanting yet another random person having my address etc., is pretty demanding and noteworthy of suspicion. oy.
 
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