WAR 2 US Aircraft Carriers Headed for the Gulf

Ranger Rainier

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Two additional United States naval aircraft carriers are heading to the Gulf and the Red Sea, according to the Kuwaiti newspaper Kuwait Times.
A US Navy aircraft carrier.

A US Navy aircraft carrier.
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Kuwait began finalizing its "emergency war plan" on being told the vessels were bound for the region.

The US Navy would neither confirm nor deny that carriers were en route. US Fifth Fleet Combined Maritime Command located in Bahrain said it could not comment due to what a spokesman termed "force-protection policy."

While the Kuwaiti daily did not name the ships it believed were heading for the Middle East, The Media Line's defense analyst said they could be the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan.

Within the last month, the Roosevelt completed an exercise along the US east coast focusing on communication among navies of different countries. It has since been declared ready for operational duties. The Reagan, currently with the Seventh Fleet, had just set sail from Japan.

The Seventh Fleet area of operation stretches from the East Coast of Africa to the International Date Line.

Meanwhile, the Arabic news agency Moheet reported at the end of July that an unnamed American destroyer, accompanied by two Israeli naval vessels traveled through the Suez Canal from the Mediterranean. A week earlier, a US nuclear submarine accompanied by a destroyer and a supply ship moved into the Mediterranean, according to Moheet.

Currently there are two US naval battle groups operating in the Gulf: one is an aircraft carrier group, led by the USS Abraham Lincoln, which carries some 65 fighter aircraft. The other group is headed by the USS Peleliu which maintains a variety of planes and strike helicopters.

The ship movements coincide with the latest downturn in relations between Washington and Teheran. The US and Iran are at odds over Iran's nuclear program, which the Bush administration claims is aimed at producing material for nuclear weapons; however, Teheran argues it is only for power generation.

Kuwait, like other Arab countries in the Gulf, fears it will be caught in the middle should the US decide to launch an air strike against Iran if negotiations fail. The Kuwaitis are finalizing details of their security, humanitarian and vital services, the newspaper reported.

The six members of the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC) - Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, Qatar, the UAE and Oman - lie just across the Gulf from Iran. Generals in the Iranian military have repeatedly warned that American interests in the region would be targeted if Iran is subjected to any military strike by the US or its Western allies.

Bahrain hosts the US Fifth Fleet, while there is a sizeable American base in Qatar. It is assumed the US also has military personnel in the other Gulf states, The Media Line's defense analyst said.

Iran is thought to have intelligence operatives working in the GCC states, according to Dubai-based military analysts.

The standoff between the US and Iran has left the Arab nations' political leaders in something of a bind, as they were being used as pawns by Washington and Teheran, according to The Media Line analyst.

Iran has offered them economic and industrial sweeteners, while the US is boosting their defense capabilities. US President George W. Bush and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad have paid visits to the GCC states in a bid to win their support.
 

tosca

Inactive
Is this a "heads up" or normal Naval routine?

Sounds to me as if we are moving a lot of ships to the mid-east. What say you? Mari Susan
 

Archetype

Veteran Member
Could be too that the Kuwaitis were alarmed at the falling price of oil and decided to stir the pot a bit.
 

ontheright

TROPIC LIGHTNING GO 25th
Sure, get us loaded up in the Me then WHEN the poop hits the fan China takes Taiwan
game of Risk anyone?
 

Jean B

Inactive
Ranger, where do you get that 5 are there? Three plus the USS Theodore Roosevelt and the USS Ronald Reagan? The article stated, "Currently there are two US naval battle groups operating in the Gulf " "Do you know how many we have all together? I've got 2+2=? What am I missing?
 

SIRR1

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Last report a few weeks back that we had pulled all Carriers out of the Gulf and operating in the Arabian Sea.

Now this was a few weeks back and this is the first news of any CVN's going back into the Persian Gulf....

I am pretty sure 2 CVNs were still in the area and 2 more would make 4 if none rotate out.

Something to keep an eye on thats for sure.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
As of July 30:

http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

CV-63 Kitty Hawk - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii To 31Jul2008 --- participate in RIMPAC2008 in the Hawaiian Operating Area --- Sep2008, Kitty Hawk and George Washington turnover at San Diego

USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - 19Dec2007, returned to Norfolk

USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - 03Jun2008, returned to San Diego

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - 23Jul2008, returned to homeport of Norfolk

CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt - 28Jul2008, Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX) 08-4 "Operation Brimstone" in North Carolina and off the eastern U.S. coast from Virginia to Florida --- later 2008, a scheduled deployment

USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) - 28Jul2008, North Arabian Sea

George Washington (CVN-73) - 29Jul2008, San Diego for repairs and will remain in San Diego for repairs until at least late Aug2008 --- late Aug2008 the repairs are scheduled to be completed --- Sep2008, Kitty Hawk and George Washington turnover at San Diego

CVN-74 John C. Stennis - 28Jun2008, returned to Bremerton --- in early 2009, a scheduled deployment

USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) - 22Jul2008, WestLant (West Atlantic)

CVN-76 Ronald Reagan - 29Jul2008, Sasebo, Japan

CVN-77 George H.W. Bush - set for early-to-mid 2008, will complete construction; the end of 2008, will be delivered to the US Navy



Updated staus as of 8-6

CV-63 Kitty Hawk - Pearl Harbor, Hawaii To 31Jul2008 No change

USS Enterprise (CVN 65) - 19Dec2007, returned to Norfolk No change

USS Nimitz (CVN 68) - 03Jun2008, returned to San Diego No change

USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - 21Jul2008, departed Norfolk Naval Shipyard
21Jul-23Jul2008, sea trials in the WestLant
23Jul2008, returned to homeport of Norfolk
29Jul2008, departed Norfolk
29Jul-01Aug2008, carrier qualifications in the WestLant


CVN-71 Theodore Roosevelt - 21Jul-31Jul2008,
Joint Task Force Exercise (JTFEX) 08-4
"Operation Brimstone"
in North Carolina and off the eastern U.S. coast
from Virginia to Florida
01Aug-05Aug2008, WestLant
later 2008, a scheduled deployment

USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) - 28Jul2008, North Arabian Sea

George Washington (CVN-73) - 29Jul2008, San Diego for repairs and will remain in San Diego for repairs until at least late Aug2008 --- late Aug2008 the repairs are scheduled to be completed --- Sep2008, Kitty Hawk and George Washington turnover at San Diego
No Change


CVN-74 John C. Stennis - 28Jun2008, returned to Bremerton --- in early 2009, a scheduled deployment No Change

USS Harry S. Truman (CVN 75) - 22Jul2008, WestLant (West Atlantic) No Change

CVN-76 Ronald Reagan - 29Jul2008, Sasebo, Japan
01Aug2008, departed Sasebo
01Aug-05Aug2008, WestPac


CVN-77 George H.W. Bush - set for early-to-mid 2008, will complete construction; the end of 2008, will be delivered to the US Navy



http://www.gonavy.jp/CVLocation.html

WHere aer the gators? :

AS of 8-6 per http://www.navy.mil/navydata/navy_legacy_hr.asp?id=146


Navy Personnel
Active Duty: 332,197

Officers: 52,134

Enlisted: 276,808

Midshipmen: 3,255
Ready Reserve: 124,716 [As of 08 Jun]

Selected Reserves: 69,493

Individual Ready Reserve: 55,223
Reserves currently mobilized: 5,814 [As of 31 Jul]
Personnel on deployment: 57,096
Navy Department Civilian Employees: 183,704

Ships and Submarines
Deployable Battle Force Ships: 280

Ships Underway (away from homeport): 133 ships (48% of total)

On deployment: 104 ships (37% of total)

Attack submarines underway (away from homeport): 31 submarines (57%)

On deployment: 21 submarines (38%)
Ships Underway

Carriers:
USS Dwight D. Eisenhower (CVN 69) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Theodore Roosevelt (CVN 71) - Atlantic Ocean
USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) - 5th Fleet

Amphibious Warfare Ships:
USS Peleliu (LHA 5) - 5th Fleet
USS Kearsarge (LHD 3) - 4th Fleet
USS Bataan (LHD 5) - Atlantic Ocean

Aircraft (operational): 3700+
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
Back before Gulf War I, CNN had an admiral on and he said that the way you would know that the war was ready to start was if there were 4 carriers positioned in the gulf.
 

skip8

Inactive
OK,

The next New Moon is 30 AUGUST.

If assets are on the move, will they all be in-place and ready in 3 weeks?

:shr:
 
What is the plan?

I think this was revealed by the recent "Operation Brimstone", a 10-day exercise in the Atlantic Ocean involving more than a dozen ships, including the US carrier strike group Theodore Roosevelt and expeditionary strike group Iwo Jima; the French submarine Amethyste, and the British HMS Illustrious Carrier Strike Group, as well as a Brazilian frigate. The exercise was geared to practice a naval blolckade on Iran, primarily to inhibit the import of refined petroleum products....something Tehran is particularly vulnerable to:

http://www.debka.com/headline.php?hid=5452

A naval blockade of Iran will likely be imposed without the cooperation of Russia and China, Iran's special friends:

[
There is no binding understanding between the P5+1 that they must act together, and the “blockade” word has begun to circulate within diplomatic circles at POTUS, State, the US Congress, Britain, France and Israel.

http://ginacobb.typepad.com/gina_cobb/iran/index.html

Thus, full-scale war between East and West might be the outcome of such an act of war by the Western powers vis-a-vis Iran:

http://www.spiritoftruth.org/truth.htm

Prepare accordingly...
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
Do you suppose Bush is in China to talk about Iran in addition to attending the Olympics? Rather risky if you ask me. Especially after what happened with our spy plane when Bush first entered office.
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
Why do I only count one carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), in the Gulf region? And last I heard (less than a week ago) there was one Amphibious Group centered on the USS Peleliu floating around the Indian Ocean, Arabian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, etc...........supporting counter-piracy efforts, not War with Iran. Not that they couldn't gear up for that........

Seems a lot of people aren't using their resources..........or are following bad info.
 

Ranger Rainier

Inactive
Why do I only count one carrier, the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72), in the Gulf region? And last I heard (less than a week ago) there was one Amphibious Group centered on the USS Peleliu floating around the Indian Ocean, Arabian Gulf, Gulf of Oman, etc...........supporting counter-piracy efforts, not War with Iran. Not that they couldn't gear up for that........

Seems a lot of people aren't using their resources..........or are following bad info.

Name your info source JUMPY FROG..........or is it just you?
 
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Ranger Rainier

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MASSIVE ARMADA HEADS FOR IRAN

Armada Heads For Iran
Friday, August 08, 2008 - FreeMarketNews.com

Operation Brimstone ended only one week ago. This was the joint US/UK/French naval war games in the Atlantic Ocean preparing for a naval blockade of Iran and the likely resulting war in the Persian Gulf area. The massive war games included a US Navy supercarrier battle group, an US Navy expeditionary carrier battle group, a Royal Navy carrier battle group, a French nuclear hunter-killer submarine plus a large number of US Navy cruisers, destroyers and frigates playing the "enemy force".

http://www.freemarketnews.com/WorldNews.asp?nid=58745
 
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jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
i am curious Ranger, why you deleted the information at the end of your post regarding the advanced biowarfare programs that Iran and Syria have developed with the help of the Russians which are aimed at the civilian populations of the western nations and Israel. i was about to comment on that aspect - as in, why the hell don't we take down this monstrous threat to us now before it gets even worse - when, suddenly, i found that portion had been deleted.
 

Ranger Rainier

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i am curious Ranger, why you deleted the information at the end of your post regarding the advanced biowarfare programs that Iran and Syria have developed with the help of the Russians which are aimed at the civilian populations of the western nations and Israel. i was about to comment on that aspect - as in, why the hell don't we take down this monstrous threat to us now before it gets even worse - when, suddenly, i found that portion had been deleted.

made it front page news. People get tired of searching through a thread for info. I thought It could stand alone as news worthy.

RR
 

Vis Mega

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Sounds like War..

Seems like yeah, the carriers will be in position for the 30th, and the end of the games and Russia completely tied up in Georgia.

But it IS odd. I could have sworn that when the pulled all the carriers out of the gulf a few weeks ago it was to get out of range of missiles. And I said "Gee, sounds like war is on its way." obviously it was just to take part in the war games though and NOW.. now they are all headed back, I guess not too concerned about the missiles from Iran.

But it sounds like a blockade to me. Here we go. Just enough time for the games to be held and then its probably 'on'.
 

Ranger Rainier

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Ron Paul Affirms: Iran Attack Plan Has ‘Green Light’

Ron Paul Affirms: Iran Attack Plan Has ‘Green Light’
http://www.americanfreepress.net/html/iran_attack_plan_146.htm

By Steve Watson

Rep. Ron Paul (R-Tex.) has warned millions of radio listeners that the United States is heading into an illegal attack on Iran, stating his amazement at members of Congress who have openly voiced support for a criminal nuclear strike.

“If we do (attack) it is going to be a disaster,” the congressman told the Alex Jones radio show. “I was astounded to see on one of the networks the other day that the debate was not are we going to attack, but are we going to attack before or after the election?” Paul continued.

Paul recently voiced concern over House Congressional Resolution 362 which he has dubbed a “virtual Iran war resolution.”

“If that comes up it is demanding that the president [put in place] an absolute blockade of the entire country of Iran, and punish any country or any business group around the world if they trade with Iran,” Paul told listeners.

Experts have predicted gas will rise to $6 per gallon if the resolution passes. Paul believes that may happen anyway, just by anticipation.

“The frightening thing is they say they are taking no options off the table, even nuclear first strike,” Paul said. Paul believes from talking with his contacts in and around Congress that a strike on Iran has already been green-lighted.

“That is my sense because the Democratic leaders in the House are proposing no resistance whatsoever, Paul said. “We saw this when a supplemental bill came up and the president asked for $107 billion for the war, the Democrat leadership gave them $162 billion.

“It is still totally bewildering to me when I see men and women in the Congress that I know and like doing this just to get along. Most of them will say ‘I agree with you on all you say but the Iranians are bad people and they might attack us some day. . . . I hear members of Congress saying if we could only nuke them.’”

Ron Paul also spoke in detail about his new Campaign For Liberty Group and his views on the upcoming election.
 

energy_wave

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It's really starting to look like this might just be what we all have been (reluctantly) waiting for. If Russia gets involved in a real war they will have their hands tied. This Georgia involvement definitely looks like a perfect diversion so we can attack Iran. Not to mention less troops in Iraq (repositioning to attack Iran) and it seems like not too long ago there were several other threads mentioning military people going off from home in a hurry on a very important mission. There was even training mentioned as well as an urgency for their families to prepare for the worst.

The waiting until the end of month will be a nail bitter. :whistle:
 

econjon33

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Diversion?

I don't buy the diversion idea - If the U.S. can fight in Iraq, Afghanistan, and iran, can't Russia handle Georgia and helping to defend Iran?
 

Rams82

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I don't buy the diversion idea - If the U.S. can fight in Iraq, Afghanistan, and iran, can't Russia handle Georgia and helping to defend Iran?
Russia is not the United States. I just can't see Georgia sacrificing themselves for the United States and Israel though. It would make no sense.
 

homepark

Resist
Our assets will position themselves to be in place to respond to Iran as they flail out as Israel does what it needs to do.
 
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