RACE 3 White Teens Charged in Fatal Beating of Mexican Immigrant in Pennsylvania

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,391425,00.html

3 White Teens Charged in Fatal Beating of Mexican Immigrant in Pennsylvania
Friday , July 25, 2008

PORT CARBON, Pa. —

Three white teens were charged Friday in what officials said was an epithet-filled fatal beating of an illegal Mexican immigrant in a small northeast Pennsylvania coal town.

Brandon J. Piekarsky, 16, and Colin J. Walsh, 17, were charged as adults with homicide and ethnic intimidation in the July 12 attack on Luis Ramirez.

A third teen, Derrick M. Donchak, 18, was charged with aggravated assault, ethnic intimidation and other offenses. All are from Shenandoah, where the attack occurred.

Ramirez, 25, was beaten to death after an argument with a group of youths that police said included high school football players. Authorities could not immediately say if any of the suspects were members of the team, but they confirmed that all three used ethnic slurs during the fight.

"As a result of this crime, a young man has lost his life. Many other lives have been devastated, and the borough of Shenandoah has been filled with tensions between many ethnic groups," Schuylkill County District Attorney James Goodman said.

"Now that the criminal charges have been filed, we must let this case be handled in the criminal justice system," he said.

Police said as many as six teens were involved in the fight, which ended with Ramirez in convulsions and foaming at the mouth. He died July 14 of head injuries.

Crystal Dillman, the victim's 24-year-old fiancee, who is white and grew up in Shenandoah, has said Ramirez was often called derogatory names, including "dirty Mexican," and told to return to his homeland.

Piekarsky and Walsh were being held without bail, while Donchak was held on $75,000 bail.

Lawyers for Piekarsky and Walsh said their clients were not guilty and that there was no evidence to support the homicide charges. They also said they would try to have the case removed to juvenile court.

Donchak declined comment.
 

Dex

Constitutional Patriot
Those boys had better watch their backs for MS13. They are in more trouble than with just the law.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Dennis,

Having previously lived in this county, you understand the mentality around here. We are also geographically close to Hazleton, PA - the town where Mayor Barletta made no small stir by passing laws that drove the illegal immigrants out of town. That is now being challenged thru the courts as Barletta eyes a larger political office in the state.

Anyway, the beating....

The local police tried to cover it up at first. Came right out and said it was not racially motivated. Everyone here knows that is a lie. There is at least one witness, not quoted in the article, who will have some very damning testimony when this thing takes off in the courts (a retired cop from Philadelphia). The Mexicans in the town are rumored to be planning some retribution, but I personally believe that is just rumor and not based on any known facts. This was a lynching. Make no mistake about that. And there were more than 3 involved...3 were charged...rumor is that the group was much larger than that.
 

Sligo

Inactive
I live in the county just south of that county. You know what's going on in the main city here, coalcracker, and it's spreading north. You know that NO ONE wants what's happened down here to happen up there and what the people are doing is EVERYTHING THEY CAN to prevent it. I work for Berks County and I'm out and about every day among the crap here. Believe me, unless you all work with Hazleton's mayor, you will get what we have. This city is a cesspool, and I don't know of any way to turn it around. I don't live in the city, and the only reason I live in the area is because I have my guvmint job, which for now, is stable. BTW, my sis is up your way, and we are related to the Molly's, and she doesn't want this crap up there either. She works for your county and feels it's bad enough, especially in P-ville.
 

bobpick

Inactive
I live in Schuylkill County, and work in Shenendoah. You have to understand a few things about Shenendoah... Think "Deliverence" meets Mayberry.
I know one of the mothers of the suspects, and she is just a mess. No kid should ever put their family through anything close to this.

OTOH, the amount of bawling by the victim's family et al, you would think that an illegal alien never harmed an American Citizen. If it was the other way around, we would have been told to be more tolerant, yadah yadah...

Of course I don't approve of any violent acts against an unarmed person. He was, however, a person in the commission of a felony, to wit, an illegal alien. Some states (I'm not sure about PA) have it a an affirmable defense to "neutralize" a person in the commission of a felony.

They are going to crucify these boys before all of the facts are known. Too bad, because no matter what happens their lives are ruined.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Yes, Sligo, you know the deal.
It's really a crazy situation, isn't it?
I can't believe it took the national media so long to pick this story up. The fact that Shenandoah and Hazleton are so close geographically seems to be escaping the media as well.
I get down your way shopping a bit at the VF outlets. Even there in broad daylight it has a different feel than just a few years ago.

And, yes, the Mollies! Our first labor union, of sorts, huh? A different kind of law and order. Also keep in mind that this county had a medical doctor practicing illegal abortions from 1930-1969. When he died, the obituary was in the New York and L.A. newspapers. This is a place where law and order is interpreted in strange ways. (Dr. Robert Spencer of Ashland, for any who care to look it up).

I predict this current story is not going away anytime soon, and we have yet to see exactly where this is all leading. I agree with you too, bobpick. Those of us who live here have the advantage of knowing some things that the paper cannot convey.
 

bobpick

Inactive
And, yes, the Mollies! Our first labor union, of sorts, huh? A different kind of law and order. Also keep in mind that this county had a medical doctor practicing illegal abortions from 1930-1969. When he died, the obituary was in the New York and L.A. newspapers. This is a place where law and order is interpreted in strange ways. (Dr. Robert Spencer of Ashland, for any who care to look it up).

I am down the street from where Ofc Ben Yost was killed, and about half a block from Black Jack Kehoe's final resting spot.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
I can walk to Black Jack's Hibernian House.
We are definitely neighbors, bro. I know where you are....not at all far. Not many places have a 5 point intersection...
 

bobpick

Inactive
Clarification

The headline says "immigrant", however it should be noted that he is an ILLEGAL immigrant.

My DD's fiance works with the victim's brother and he said that his brother sold crack.

Doesn't matter, he's been cannonized by the media.
 

buff

Deceased
The fact that Shenandoah and Hazleton are so close geographically seems to be escaping the media as well.
I get down your way shopping a bit at the VF outlets. Even there in broad daylight it has a different feel than just a few years ago.

wow...shenandoah...my parents are from mahanoy city. bet you know where that is CC.
 

Scoutt888

Inactive
Wow!! That is a terrible way to die, being beaten to death. The perpetraitors weren't even black. I didn't think white people did stuff like this. At least that is what some posters on other threads of this nature seem to think. I guess we are all capable of being animals, given the chance and the right environment.
 
Wow!! That is a terrible way to die, being beaten to death. The perpetraitors weren't even black. I didn't think white people did stuff like this. At least that is what some posters on other threads of this nature seem to think. I guess we are all capable of being animals, given the chance and the right environment.

Maybe this felon raped one too many white cheerleader at the highschool and the football team decided they had had enough. Or maybe he hooked one of their little brothers on crack.

It won't be long until more red-blooded American men react this way when their mothers, wives, and daughters are kidnaped, raped and beat to death by these illegals.
 

buff

Deceased
Maybe this felon raped one too many white cheerleader at the highschool and the football team decided they had had enough.

or maybe the white kids were just as racist as you appear to be...:shk:
 

Scoutt888

Inactive
Maybe this felon raped one too many white cheerleader at the highschool and the football team decided they had had enough. Or maybe he hooked one of their little brothers on crack.

Yeah Maybe, It hasn't been shown to be the case yet though. Maybe the teens were just a bunch of animals out to have a good time. Time will tell.
 

G-Man

Inactive
Luis Ramirez, a 25-year-old illegal Mexican immigrant, crossed paths late one night with some teenage football players who had been out drinking in their small Pennsylvania coal town.

According to a police affidavit, the defendants and three 17-year-olds were drinking alcohol in a wooded area of Shenandoah.

Taunts ensued. One youngster threw a punch, knocking Ramirez to the ground, while another followed with a kick to the head, authorities said Friday, when they charged three teens in the death of the fruit picker and factory worker.
Following the arraignment, lawyers for Piekarsky and Walsh said their clients are not guilty and that they would try to have the case removed to juvenile court.

Piekarsky's lawyer, said he is "surprised and disappointed" that his client faces a homicide charge, attributing Ramirez's death to a "street fight that ended tragically."

He said that although slurs might have been used, the fight was not motivated by ethnicity.

"I think any time there's a fight and any time you have one ethnic group fighting another, there's going to be racial slurs," he said. "I've seen that since I was a kid on a playground 20 years ago, but they never called it ethnic intimidation until very recently."
The suspects, all Shenandoah residents, played football at Shenandoah Valley High School; Donchak, now enrolled at Bloomsburg University, was the quarterback last season.

A fourth teen will be charged as a juvenile with aggravated assault and ethnic intimidation and that charges also will be filed against a man who provided alcohol to the defendants hours before the attack.


http://www.examiner.com/a-1505858~3_Pa__teens_charged_in_fatal_attack_on_immigrant.html
 

G-Man

Inactive
Maybe this felon raped one too many white cheerleader at the highschool and the football team decided they had had enough.

*** According to a police affidavit, the defendants encountered Ramirez, 25, and a teenage girl in a park the night of July 12.

*** Crystal Dillman, his 24-year-old girlfriend (who is white and grew up in Shenandoah) said Friday that Ramirez was walking her sister to a friend's house the night of the attack.

*** The couple had two children together, and Dillman also has a 3-year-old who thought of Ramirez as her father.:rolleyes:



sounds like this illegal was really making the rounds with the "white" woman there, including under age teenage girls!!!!! :whistle:
 

Ed

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Here in Wichita, KS last week a policeman was shot twice in the legs by a Mex.
The shots were near fatal but the policeman managed to shoot and kill
the Mex.

Sure as the sun rising the Mex's family made a plea on radio for funds to
bury their dearly departed.

The violence will only get worse and worse thanks to the policies of Bush,
McCain, Kennedy and all.

For an eye opener as to what is coming take time to read the El Paso
newspaper. Its online.

Ed
 
*** According to a police affidavit, the defendants encountered Ramirez, 25, and a teenage girl in a park the night of July 12.

*** Crystal Dillman, his 24-year-old girlfriend (who is white and grew up in Shenandoah) said Friday that Ramirez was walking her sister to a friend's house the night of the attack.

*** The couple had two children together, and Dillman also has a 3-year-old who thought of Ramirez as her father.:rolleyes:



sounds like this illegal was really making the rounds with the "white" woman there, including under age teenage girls!!!!! :whistle:

Look at the statistics. I'm sorry that you choose to close your eyes because in THIS case he SEEMS to be 'upstanding'.
 

Bolt

FJB
Not to sound callous, but if he hadn't broken the law and come here illegally, this never would have happened. I'm not making excuses for the boys who killed him, if it was unprovoked. There are plenty of people who are sick and tired of our gov't turning a blind eye to illegals. This type of occurrence could start happening more and more as people begin to fight to take their communities back. Again, I'm not condoning this, just making an observation.
 

Sligo

Inactive
Killing someone is never good, but if these people from Schuylkill County take a 30-40 minute drive down Route 61 into Berks County and into Reading, PA, they will see a small city that has been completely, 100% overrun by illegals from Mexico, Dominican Republic, Guatemala, Equador, Puerto Rico, etc., and the gangs that come with them, including the lovely MS-13. I live close to the VF Outlets that coalcracker mentioned before, but our Police Departments work OT to keep the crime on the other side of the river. I can see where fear and desperation not to turn their town into another Reading could make a person "lose it". If ICE would do their job and get the Illegals the hell out, maybe we'd have a slight chance in hell of pulling Reading out of the sewer it's in. It's a HORRIBLE place to be in the DAYTIME!!! So, like I said, killing is bad, but I can see where these kids got out of hand with their frustration.
 

imaginative

keep your eye on the ball
Wow!! That is a terrible way to die, being beaten to death. The perpetraitors weren't even black. I didn't think white people did stuff like this.

I too share your surprise that a beating death wasn't perpetrated by the .. ahem.. usual suspects.

OTOH- we dont know the whole story and what led up to this incident- so we will learn what happened here as the truth unfolds.
 

buff

Deceased
said Friday that Ramirez was walking her sister to a friend's house the night of the attack.

he is walking his girlfriend's(who he has children with) sister to a friends house...obviously trying to protect her, and you attack him as diddling the "white" women?...WTF is wrong with you?
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
wow...shenandoah...my parents are from mahanoy city. bet you know where that is CC.


Yes, I sure do know Mahanoy City. I spend a lot of time over there. It's only a few miles from Shenandoah (where this beating/murder took place), yet the illegals have not tried to move into Mahanoy as of yet.


Shenandoah School District has been innundated with new students. I heard (rumor) that this summer over a hundred more students have transferred into the district. That may be an exaggeration. The school has been out of classroom space these past couple of years, and the town has little to work with. The population is mostly elderly and on fixed incomes. There is little happening economically in this community. The number of tax delinquencies has been very high. This is an untenable situation. Now, having said that, I must add: NO WAY this beating can ever be justified. The victim, small in stature and slim in build, is assaulted by a number of young men. Let's take the low end and say it was 6 against 1 (the group may have been larger than that). The word I've been hearing is that the victim was down having convulsions and foaming at the mouth as the attackers continued to kick him in the head. I guess we'll find out during the trial how much of these rumors are true...:shk:
 

buff

Deceased
Yes, I sure do know Mahanoy City. I spend a lot of time over there. It's only a few miles from Shenandoah (where this beating/murder took place), yet the illegals have not tried to move into Mahanoy as of yet.


Shenandoah School District has been innundated with new students. I heard (rumor) that this summer over a hundred more students have transferred into the district. That may be an exaggeration. The school has been out of classroom space these past couple of years, and the town has little to work with. The population is mostly elderly and on fixed incomes. There is little happening economically in this community. The number of tax delinquencies has been very high. This is an untenable situation. Now, having said that, I must add: NO WAY this beating can ever be justified. The victim, small in stature and slim in build, is assaulted by a number of young men. Let's take the low end and say it was 6 against 1 (the group may have been larger than that). The word I've been hearing is that the victim was down having convulsions and foaming at the mouth as the attackers continued to kick him in the head. I guess we'll find out during the trial how much of these rumors are true...:shk:

where the hell are these illegals working?...i know from cousins and such up there, that some are commuting all the way to philly for jobs..

if you want a depressed job market, this area of the country is it.

my mother grew up in mahanoy city and my dad grew up over the vulcan in barnesville. if you are old enough, you might remember "rangs milk"...that is my family. we had a dairy in barnesville. i still have uncles, cousins and such there and in tamaqua...whenever i visit, i always make a point to play golf at moutain valley and white birch.
 

coalcracker

Veteran Member
Good point, buff. Not much work around here. Some farms nearby in the Ringtown valley hire them to pick crops. A few years back, a big bust was made at a construction site up near I-81 where a bunch of illegals were working...but for the most part, not much work is available.

Oh...here is an interesting detail:

We have these billboards along the highway that have this cryptic message: You're here (an arrow pointing to a map). Where is your family?

The only thing is that the billboards are in English rather than Espanol.

Yes...I know of Rangs, but I never had it...and the Vulcan, and the golf courses I know quite well!
 

Altura Ct.

Veteran Member
One thing is certain if this invader wasn't here this wouldn't of happen. Just another reason why these invaders need to go home.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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...Schuylkill County...

(snicker)

NO ONE who hasn't lived there knows how to pronounce that. I lived in Minersville for about 3 years. I kept my bike in a tiny little public storage garage in Schuylkill Haven. It was right next to a little car wash (for those that know the area).
 

buff

Deceased
...Schuylkill County...

(snicker)

NO ONE who hasn't lived there knows how to pronounce that. I lived in Minersville for about 3 years. I kept my bike in a tiny little public storage garage in Schuylkill Haven. It was right next to a little car wash (for those that know the area).

haha...funny that..but you gotta admit, they have food you cannot get nowhere else..

such as kawalniks(sp) keilbasi in shenandoah...
 

mapwife

Membership Revoked
I find it fascinating that the report starts so boldly with "three WHITE teens." If the tables had been turned and they were minority teens, it would have been like pulling teeth to find out what race or ethnicity they were, no matter what the ethnicity of the victim was...:whistle:
 

bobpick

Inactive
Updated reporting as of 7:00 a.m. 7/26/2008

http://www.republicanherald.com/art...0080726.a.pg1.pr26beating_s1.1836283_top2.txt

"If the defendant is convicted of ethnic intimidation, it increases the seriousness of any other crime of which he is convicted. For example, if he is convicted of simple assault and ethnic intimidation, the simple assault, otherwise a second-degree misdemeanor, would become a first-degree misdemeanor, thereby exposing a defendant to the possibility of a more severe sentence."
 

Scoutt888

Inactive
Why are they being charged with second degree misdemeanor instead of second degree manslaughter or second degree murder? They did kill someone regardless of the excuses being made. I know he was an illegal but I have seen people get more upset over a dog being killed. I happen to love dogs by the way, but this was a human being.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Anyone that kills another without justification should be charged with manslaughter or murder.

JMHO
 
yep

they should be charged. And you will see a lot more of this. You need to go to an American town that has been taken over by these scum, see the filth and crime and attitude they bring with them FOR US, the owners of this country, and realize mex towns are now all over this country to understand the seething anger that many of US feel.

They need to get the hell out, all 24 million of them.
 

Worrier King

Inactive
Illegals are nothing less than subversive invaders.

I don't believe in surrendering our nation or Constitution to globalist scheme's.

Let it be a warning to the other invaders.

No sympathy here.
 
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