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Iran ends cooperation with UN nuclear arms probe

By GEORGE JAHN,

Associated Press Writer
Thu Jul 24, 5:16 PM ET

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Iran signaled Thursday that it will no longer cooperate with U.N. experts probing for signs of clandestine nuclear weapons work, confirming the investigation is at a dead end a year after it began.

The announcement from Iranian Vice President Gholam Reza Aghazadeh compounded skepticism about denting Tehran's nuclear defiance, just five days after Tehran stonewalled demands from six world powers that it halt activities capable of producing the fissile core of warheads.

Besides demanding a suspension of uranium enrichment — a process that can create both fuel for nuclear reactors and payloads for atomic bombs — the six powers have been pressing Tehran to cooperate with the International Atomic Energy Agency's probe.

Iran, which is obligated as a signer of the Nuclear Nonproliferation Treaty not to develop nuclear arms, raised suspicions about its intentions when it admitted in 2002 that it had run a secret nuclear program for nearly two decades in violation of its commitment.

The Tehran regime insists it halted such work and is now only trying to produce fuel for nuclear reactors to generate electricity. It agreed on a "work plan" with the Vienna-based IAEA a year ago for U.N. inspectors to look into allegations Iran is still doing weapons work.

At the time, IAEA chief Mohamed ElBaradei hailed it as "a significant step forward" that would fill in the missing pieces of Tehran's nuclear jigsaw puzzle — if honored by Iran. He brushed aside suggestions Iran was using the deal as a smoke screen to deflect attention from its continued defiance of a U.N. Security Council demand for a halt to uranium enrichment.

The investigation ran into trouble just months after being launched. Deadline after deadline was extended because of Iranian foot-dragging. The probe, originally meant to be completed late last year, spilled into the first months of 2008, and beyond.

Iran remains defiant. It dismisses as fabricated the evidence supplied by the U.S. and other members of the IAEA's governing board purportedly backing allegations that Iranians continue to work on nuclear weapons.

Officials say that among the evidence given to the IAEA are what seem to be Iranian draft plans to refit missiles with nuclear warheads; explosives tests that could be used to develop a nuclear detonator; and a drawing showing how to mold uranium metal into the shape of warheads. There are also questions about links between Iran's military and civilian nuclear facilities.

On Thursday, Aghazadeh appeared to signal that his country was no longer prepared even to discuss the issue with the IAEA.

Investigating such allegations "is outside the domain of the agency," he said after meeting with ElBaradei. Any further queries on the issue "will be dealt with in another way," he said, without going into detail.

Britain, one of those suspicious of Iran's nuclear activities, was critical.

"We are concerned by reports that Iran is refusing to cooperate with the IAEA on allegations over nuclear weapons," the British Foreign Office said in a statement. "The IAEA has raised serious concerns over Iran's activities with a possible military dimension. If Iran is serious about restoring international confidence in its intentions, it must address these issues."

The IAEA asked in vain for explanations from Iran, and its last report in May said Iran might be withholding information on whether it tried to make nuclear arms. Reflecting ElBaradei's frustration, the report used language described by one senior U.N. official as unique in its direct criticism of Tehran.

Aghazadeh's comments Thursday appeared to jibe with those of diplomats familiar with the probe who told The Associated Press that the IAEA had run into a dead end.

A senior diplomat on Thursday attributed Tehran's intransigence in part to anger over a multimedia presentation by IAEA Deputy Director-General Olli Heinonen to the agency's 35 board members based on intelligence about the alleged weapons work. The diplomat, like others, agreed to discuss the matter only if not quoted by name because his information was confidential.

Tehran dismisses the suspicions of the U.S. and allies, and Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad on Wednesday again vowed that his country would not "retreat one iota" from pursuing uranium enrichment.

On Saturday, a U.S. diplomat had participated in talks with Iran held in Geneva, raising expectations that a compromise might be reached under which Iran would agree to temporarily stop expansion of enrichment activities. In exchange, the six world powers — the U.S., Germany, Britain, France, Russia and China — would hold off on adopting new U.N. sanctions against Iran.

But participants at Geneva said Iranian negotiators skirted the freeze issue despite the presence of U.S. Undersecretary of State William Burns.

Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice on Monday accused Iran of not being serious at the Geneva talks. She warned that all six nations were serious about a two-week deadline for Iran to agree to freeze suspect activities and start negotiations or else be hit with a fourth set of U.N. penalties.

Aghazadeh, who is also head of Iran's atomic agency, played down the international complaints, but he also evaded a direct answer on whether Tehran would give any ground on an enrichment freeze.

"Both sides are carefully studying the concerns and expectations of both sides," he told reporters


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080724/ap_on_re_mi_ea/nuclear_iran
 

jed turtle

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skippy, if you're implying a swift end to hostilities with Iran that will result in sharply lower prices of oil by October,

i'll have some of what you're smoking.

while i welcome the removal of the current regime in Tehran, by whatever means necessary,

i wouldn't encourage such hopeful outcomes. we are on the precipice of world war over the oil fields of the mid-east.

russia, china, and europe as well as the USA are irretrievably wedded to that oil, and if it looks like the US might come into control of Iran as well as its established control of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, all - and i mean ALL bets are off in how China and Russia respond.

Armegeddon is not just a fairy tale...
 

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skippy, if you're implying a swift end to hostilities with Iran that will result in sharply lower prices of oil by October,

i'll have some of what you're smoking.

while i welcome the removal of the current regime in Tehran, by whatever means necessary,

i wouldn't encourage such hopeful outcomes. we are on the precipice of world war over the oil fields of the mid-east.

russia, china, and europe as well as the USA are irretrievably wedded to that oil, and if it looks like the US might come into control of Iran as well as its established control of Iraq and Saudi Arabia, all - and i mean ALL bets are off in how China and Russia respond.





Armegeddon is not just a fairy tale...



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If this report proves to be true then we will have entered a most dangerous time in the world's history. We must prepare for VERY difficult times for America and the world for surely this will prompt an attack upon Iran.

To the extent that oil is available at all, it will likely become VERY expensive, on the order of $500 a bbl. The implications of such a price for oil is a very changed economic landscape. The word 'dislocation' doesn't even begin to express what the Western world and Japan will face.

We will have VERY hungry and cold people in the Western world and Japan. The experience of the Donner Party will likely be visited upon whole nations. Many of our best and brightest will perish, along with our elderly and ill.

Such circumstances should not be the kind of thing that we happily look forward to.

I grieve for our people if they suffer the full implications of an attack upon Iran, though such an attack might prove necessary.

IMO,

Woolly
 

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I Keep Telling You Guys...

If this report proves to be true then we will have entered a most dangerous time in the world's history. We must prepare for VERY difficult times for America and the world for surely this will prompt an attack upon Iran.

To the extent that oil is available at all, it will likely become VERY expensive, on the order of $500 a bbl. The implications of such a price for oil is a very changed economic landscape. The word 'dislocation' doesn't even begin to express what the Western world and Japan will face.

We will have VERY hungry and cold people in the Western world and Japan. The experience of the Donner Party will likely be visited upon whole nations. Many of our best and brightest will perish, along with our elderly and ill.

Such circumstances should not be the kind of thing that we happily look forward to.

I grieve for our people if they suffer the full implications of an attack upon Iran, though such an attack might prove necessary.

IMO,

Woolly



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OK now brother skip.

This post makes me think your implying that the alien contact just revealed by Apollo 14 astronaut Dr Edgar Mitchell, is in reference to ETs, or their 'toys', secreted at Area 51, that will be enjoined in our efforts to attack and defeat Iran!?

Come on bro! That just nuts!

:screw: :eye: :ecrz:

Isn't it??

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My ESP tells me Oil will be...$65.00 (worst case) a barrel by OCT...Get the
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I usually agree with you but, right now, I cannot do that. There is no way oil will be at $65 per barrel by this october. No way and no how. If (when) war breaks out against Iran, oil will take off like the space shuttle and it won't touch $100 per barrel ever again (barring some miracle that I suppose could happen but I seriously doubt would happen).
 

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If this report proves to be true then we will have entered a most dangerous time in the world's history. We must prepare for VERY difficult times for America and the world for surely this will prompt an attack upon Iran.

To the extent that oil is available at all, it will likely become VERY expensive, on the order of $500 a bbl. The implications of such a price for oil is a very changed economic landscape. The word 'dislocation' doesn't even begin to express what the Western world and Japan will face.

We will have VERY hungry and cold people in the Western world and Japan. The experience of the Donner Party will likely be visited upon whole nations. Many of our best and brightest will perish, along with our elderly and ill.

Such circumstances should not be the kind of thing that we happily look forward to.

I grieve for our people if they suffer the full implications of an attack upon Iran, though such an attack might prove necessary.

IMO,

Woolly




I agree with much of what you said. Things are about to get just a wee bit more interesting in the geopolitical world. :whistle: :ld: :shkr: Personally, I expect a hot, overt, shooting, war to start between Israel (and, most likely, America, as well) against Iran and Syria in the next 2 to 3 months (if not sooner).


Interesting times are ahead. Interesting indeed. :ld:
 

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I agree with much of what you said. Things are about to get just a wee bit more interesting in the geopolitical world. :whistle: :ld: :shkr: Personally, I expect a hot, overt, shooting, war to start between Israel (and, most likely, America, as well) against Iran and Syria in the next 2 to 3 months (if not sooner).


Interesting times are ahead. Interesting indeed. :ld:

Read Ezekial 38 and 39. Bible prophesy being fulfilled.
 

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Westerners Report 'Paranoia' Gripping Iranian Regime

(IsraelNN.com) 7/25/08 Western diplomats and nuclear inspectors who frequently travel to Tehran as part of the international effort against Iran's uranium enrichment activities say that "a sense of paranoia appears to have gripped the regime in recent months," the Daily Telegraph reported Friday.

“There has certainly been a change of mood since the start of the year,” a Vienna-based official told the paper's correspondent this week. “In the past they always appeared very self-confident and sure-footed in their dealings with foreign officials. Now they come across as very suspicious, and watch our every move.”

The report says that Tehran’s suspiciousness may explained by the fact that President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad and other officials realize that "they are running out of time in their negotiations with the West."

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/Flash.aspx/150474
 

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I usually agree with you but, right now, I cannot do that. There is no way oil will be at $65 per barrel by this october. No way and no how. If (when) war breaks out against Iran, oil will take off like the space shuttle and it won't touch $100 per barrel ever again (barring some miracle that I suppose could happen but I seriously doubt would happen).

blah, blah, blah, oil, blah, blah nukes, blah, blah weapons....who the he!! cares....it's Ms. Shock and Awe!! :)
 

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That report was published almost 2 weeks ago. Why is it suddenly so important?



The report...Ties into this report


Thursday, July 10, 2008
The Fleet Positions Itself For War Part II


In going through the morning reading, one of the first things I read was the post by Thomas Barnett that declared All systems "go" for war. Dr. Barnett has excellent instincts, but in my study of the Iranian issue, I simply could not see a scenario for war unfold by either the United States or Israel until after we get public statements by the Chinese. I posted some comment to that effect on Dr. Barnett's blog, and thank goodness that blog is moderated, because 10 minutes later I realized the conditions for war are indeed being met. China, and Japan have weighed in.

This is not trivial, this is the first time we have seen global coverage of Chinese and Japanese government concerns to the rising tensions surrounding Iran, and it comes as a result of Iranian military posturing, not Israeli posturing. This was one of several conditions we had previously identified, because it is an economic consideration towards war that Japan and China respectively represent the #1 and #2 importer of oil from Iran. It is very important to note what they are saying and what they doing.


Last Friday, Iran delivered a letter of response to a package of incentives proposed by the six countries -- the permanent UN Security Council members Britain, France, China, Russia and the United States, as well as Germany, aimed at persuading Iran to suspend its uranium enrichment activities.
Liu confirmed Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi had received a letter from his Iranian counterpart, Manouchehr Mottaki, which said Iran was ready to hold constructive negotiations as soon as possible with the European Union and the six countries.


Also consider events. China and India both have increased their domestic price of oil through tweaking their subsidies, but also important is the upcoming restrictions on driving we will see leading up to the Olympics as China attempts to paint the sky blue. These adjustments, combined with continued reduced oil use in the US, will increase oil stockpiles in August while production remains constant.

Last week we discussed the negotiations package offered to Iran and why the details are important. Iran appears to have accepted the negotiated package, and with that comes a condition that simply didn't get enough attention in the media.

The Foreign Office in London tonight confirmed to The Times that the major world powers would refrain from any further action against Tehran at the UN Security Council if Iran refrained from any new nuclear activity, including the installation of more centrifuges for uranium enrichment. This offer was part of an incentives package offered to Iran last month by the US, Britain, Russia, China, France and Germany.

It was “part and parcel of any pre-negotiations which would be limited to six weeks to prepare for the opening of any formal negotiations,” the Foreign Office spokesman said.

We see this as a built in time table, essentially a loose countdown towards war. During the "process" Israel is expected to show restraint while the six party talks attempt a diplomatic solution. We expect this six week time period of pre-negotiations will begin soon, if not already, because another important condition was met today.

Notwithstanding months of partisan wrangling in Congress over the Iraq war, the Senate on Thursday handily confirmed Gen. David Petraeus as the top commander in the Middle East and Lt. Gen. Raymond Odierno to replace Petraeus as the chief military officer in Iraq.

A lot of attention was given to the missile launches during the Iranian military exercise over the last two days. A brief word about this. A couple weeks ago we noted that the Iranians had moved ballistic missiles in to a launch position. We speculated it was a bluff, but we were also unaware of the Iranian military exercise. The thing is, the media had the story about the ballistic missiles being moved to launchpads, and everyone apparently knew about it when it happened. When we first heard about the missiles being moved to the launch pad, our first question was whether the missiles were fueled. The fuel used for ballistic missiles is very corrosive, meaning a missile that is fueled either must be launched within a few weeks or the fuel will have to be drained and replaced.

With everyone (including the Times citing defense sources in Israel 3 weeks ago) knowing the missiles were moved to the launch pads, clearly the early warning system for an Iranian ballistic missile launch is effective. If you are watching naval exercises, air power demonstrations, or missile launches and believe you are observing the metrics towards war, you've been distracted. The metrics are not military, they are political. For example:

The fact that the terrorists have failed to strike our shores again, does not mean that our enemies have given up. To the contrary, since 9/11 they've plotted a number of attacks on our homeland. Like members standing up here, I receive briefings on the very real and very dangerous threats that America continues to face.

The most important lessons learned after 9/11 was that America's intelligence professionals lacked some of the tools they needed to monitor the communications of terrorists abroad. It's essential that our intelligence community know who our enemies are talking to, what they're saying, and what they're planning.

I can't say I'm excited about this bill, but I can live with it, perhaps literally. Following an attack on Iran by Israel, Iran is not going to find much success trying to sink the USS Abraham Lincoln (CVN 72) in the Indian Ocean, but they might have a great deal of success killing you and me here in America. We don't believe for one second that Iran is going to abide by the Geneva Conventions and not intentionally support the killing of American civilians in North America. If war happens, they are as likely if not more likely to attack here than in the Gulf. Whether you like it or not, there was absolutely no way the Democrats, including Barack Obama, were going to leave the possibility open that Israel attacks Iran, and the US gets hit by terrorist attacks inside the US while the FISA bill wasn't passed.


This is a key point. The Democratic Party in mass shifted from a core position. This doesn't happen without keen awareness to some strategic condition. Clearly some outside force has produced conditions which are far outside the scope of national politics, because nothing short of insight and real concern for political survival would Democrats find inspiration for such a massive policy shift with virtually no explanation to its core constituency. This is a major reason, and to Democrats scratching still their heads, an obvious sign we believe that Israel has demanded a time table.


We believe we are in the middle of a twelve week period of diplomacy, what will be the last chance for diplomacy before when we believe Israel will take action. Once the six week negotiation period passes, and the real negotiations begin, the clock is ticking. This time period is not an accident, there is a reason why the six week time period was insisted upon by several nations of the six party talks, including China. The six week period insures that war will not break out during the Olympics, and with this condition established heads of state will be in attendance.

You think tensions are high now, you haven't been reading the blog very long. As we noted in early May, the Navy has been positioning itself for an extraordinary level of readiness this fall, and it is obvious enough that even the damage to the USS George Washington (CVN 73) does little to total battle force availability. With the return of the Nassau ESG to port today, the Atlantic Fleet doesn't have any strike groups on deployment, while the Pacific has 3 Carrier Strike Groups and 1 Expeditionary Strike Group at sea. The Lincoln CSG, currently in the Indian Ocean, is to be replaced by late August, which is also around the same time the Kitty Hawk currently participating in RIMPAC 2008 is expected to move to Washington state to prepare for decommissioning.

The Reagan Carrier Strike Group which is currently in the Pacific, and the Peleliu Expeditionary Strike Group which is currently in the Persian Gulf, will both remain at sea well into the fall months. More notably, the time for the next round of naval strike group deployments has come, and the Navy is about to deploy a whole bunch of ships, with a massive reserve trained up and available. As chance would have it, the Europeans will be putting large numbers of naval forces to sea over the next few months as well.

Final thoughts.

In the Middle East this year Ramadan begins on Sunday, August 31st at sundown and will continue for 30 days until Monday, September 29th at sundown. It is worth noting there is a new moon on August 30th and September 29th. We still see Turkey as a big wild card, Israel can do an end run around the United States through Turkey, and it wouldn't even be the first time this year. This is not trivial, most people are unaware that Turkey has the second largest standing Army in NATO, second behind the United States. It is an experienced, well trained Army with excellent equipment.

Would Iran really be stupid enough to attack a NATO member with the largest standing Army in Europe, who is already on the border and has the means to completely cut off Iran's northern flank? When one considers the dynamics between the US, EU, Israel, and Turkey, don't dismiss the wild card role Turkey still might play in any scenario. After all, no one saw the Syrian incident coming through Turkey until after the fact.

Posted by Galrahn at 8:22 PM

http://informationdissemination.blog...r-part-ii.html
 

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My ESP tells me Oil will be...$65.00 (worst case) a barrel by OCT...Get the
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Oil prices have tumbled below $70 a barrel after the government reported bigger-than-expected jumps in U.S. crude and gasoline inventories. Investors took the news as more evidence that an economic slowdown is curbing demand for energy.

In its weekly report, the Energy Information Administration says crude stocks rose by 5.6 million barrels last week, well above the 3.1 million barrel increase expected by analysts surveyed by energy research firm Platts.

The EIA also says gasoline stock rose by 7 million barrels last week, more than double the build analysts had expected.

Light, sweet crude for November delivery was down $4.61 to $69.93 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange, crude's lowest trading level in nearly 14 months.

Oil prices have now dropped by more than 50 percent since peaking at $147.27 on July 11.


http://www.foxbusiness.com/story/markets/industries/energy/oil-hits--month-low-economic-malaise/#
 

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I'll be waiting for your explanation, Skip.:)



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