ECON Could Your Bank Fail? (yes and soon)

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Could Your Bank Fail?

by Bill Sardi


My wife and I took my 4-year-old son to a children’s theater this weekend to watch a live presentation of Robin Hood (rob from the rich, give to the poor). The mother of one of my young son’s playmates said she is ready to go on a long-planned vacation. I asked where she does her banking. Her answer: Downey Savings and Washington Mutual (WAMU).

Good God, Downey savings is at the top of the list of banks predicted to fold and Washington Mutual is burdened with the prospect that many of its customers with adjustable rate mortgages, which will be re-set in the coming months, won’t be able to make their monthly mortgage payments. Most of my friends and acquaintances are oblivious to what is going on in America.

Re-setting of adjustable rate mortgages triggers the collapse

What IS going on is approximately 600 billion dollars’ worth of subprime adjustable rate mortgages (ARMs) will go through rate-resetting between now and the end of 2008. About 15% of these ARMs are predicted to default, representing $75 billion of mortgages that banks will have as non-performing loans on their books, which will be reflected in their quarterly earnings reports. The stock price of these banks will then tumble and depositors will run to withdraw their funds from checking and savings accounts. Since most banks have no more than 10% of their depositors' funds in cash (the rest has been loaned out), even a small run on the bank could leave a bank with no cash.

When the FDIC becomes insolvent, now what?

So what happens if nearly every bank in America is calling on the Federal Deposit Insurance Company (FDIC) to bail them out at the same time?

The FDIC, which insures your bank deposits, sees the handwriting on the wall. It doesn’t have enough funds ($52.8 billion) in reserve to cover trillions of dollars in bank deposits. According to Wikipedia, as of June 2008 the FDIC insures 8471 banking institutions with total deposits of $8,575 trillion (March 31, 2008 deposit figures).

The IndyMac bank failure will swallow up $4–8 billion of the FDIC's treasure chest and there are 300 other banks at risk of failure that represent another $26.8 billion of deposits the FDIC has to ensure. The failure of a large bank, like WAMU ($160 billion in deposits, with only $15 billion in cash reserves), would totally deplete the FDIC insurance fund by itself.

Sheila Bair, FDIC chairwoman, trying to head off an unprecedented banking disaster, is calling for banks to take all homes covered in ARMS right now and freeze the rates/and or convert them to a fixed rate product.

Bank implosion not impossible

Martin Hutchinson, writing in the Asia Times, says "It is thus not impossible for the entire US banking system to implode." (The Bear’s Lair, July 16, 2008)

Hutchinson also points out that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, the two institutions that are supposed to guarantee home mortgages, require a bailout that prompted the Federal Reserve chairman to offer them a temporary lifeline – access to the discount window at the Fed, which supplies the nation with money.

Freddie Mac seeks $5.5 billion of outside capital, but who would put money into this sinking ship? The American public is being asked to provide $100 billion to bail out Freddie and Fannie, which means you as a citizen are now bailing out other people’s bad loans!

The life ring thrown to Freddie and Fannie by the Federal Reserve is only temporary. Congress must now vote on proposed legislation that would throw the burden of this whole mess upon the taxpayers. Recognize Freddie and Fannie own or guarantee nearly half of the nation’s $12 trillion in mortgages. A bigger crisis lies ahead, say the experts. Freddie and Fannie will be back in the headlines later this year. This means a giant implosion is only being delayed.

Why should taxpayers bail out Freddie and Fannie?

Hutchinson says "There can be no economic justification for the government guaranteeing the great majority of the nation's home mortgages, and the spurious ‘government-sponsored enterprise’ structure of Fannie and Freddie merely hides the likely consequences of their default."

Hutchinson goes on to say: "Fannie and Freddie do not represent the entire US finance sector, far from it. Nevertheless their insolvency would further erode confidence in the rest of the sector, very likely leading to a cascade of death spirals among other institutions. After all, the best-run large non-global US bank, Wachovia, has itself got in trouble by its insanely foolish acquisition of the California mortgage lender Golden West Financial at the peak of the market in 2006, while Bank of America, the largest retail-oriented US bank, voluntarily took on more of the mess by its purchase of the diseased and probably criminal Countrywide Financial as recently as last January."

Says Hutchinson: "Thus a total collapse of the US financial system, while not inevitable, is a contingency which should now be planned for."

Liar’s loans to be banned, but not soon

The Federal Reserve has a belated answer for all this. It has put its foot down and will invoke a rule banning subprime "liar’s loans" – those loans where loan institutions overlooked the ability of borrowers to repay, and borrowers simply wrote down unconfirmed income numbers on their loan applications (sometimes the lender’s just scratched these number in themselves). Well, that’s a long-needed fix, but for unexplained reasons the Fed won’t put it into effect till October 1, 2009. (Fed Prohibits subprime ‘liar’s loans’, Holden Lewis, Bankrate.com)

News media and bank insolvency


Harry Koza, senior Canadian markets analyst at Thomson Financial, says the IndyMac bank failure has "barely got any news coverage outside of California papers." (IndyMac bank run: a sign of things to come? Globe and Mail, July 18, 2008) Is the news media intentionally blacking out the IndyMac bank failure to areas outside of California?

It is obvious that any censorship is an attempt to calm the public from running to pull their money out of their accounts.

Oh, the news media has broken ranks to publish what is called "The Texas ratio," which is a measure that fairly accurately predicts whether a bank will fail. The "Texas ratio," coined from a tool used to predict bank failures in Texas banks in the 1980s, is calculated by dividing the value of a lender’s non-performing leans by the sum of its tangible equity capital and loan loss reserves.

A few smaller banks made it on this list in what appears to be an effort to wipe out the small banks while the larger banks grab market share. What’s the Texas ratio for large banks like Wachovia, WAMU, etc?

IndyMac Bancorp Inc argued its "Texas ratio" had been unfairly calculated (it was around 140%, anything over 100 is a predictable collapse of the bank). So the Texas Ratio accurately predicted the IndyMac collapse.

Using data gleaned from Wachovia's Quarterly SEC 10-Q filing, ending March 2008, shows a Texas Ratio of 78%, which is down from 84% last quarter, but these are dated figures now, and their loan loss reserves declined, and most of their ARM loans are now being readjusted upwards, so anticipate many non-performing mortgage loans at Wachovia.

Nobody has uttered a word about this, but if the prospect of insolvency is pointed at smaller banks, and leaks of such information prompts the public to run and demand withdrawal of their funds from these institutions, the depositors will likely take their money and open accounts at bigger and seemingly safer banks. The FDIC has sufficient funds (~$53 billion) to cover the deposits at these small banks should they become insolvent, and this would infuse billions into the banking giants.

This appears to be what is happening by the leak of a list of smaller local and regional banks at the top of the "Texas Ratio" list and the indiscretion by Senator Charles Schumer (NY), member of the Senate Banking Committee, who publicly disclosed to the news press a letter he wrote to regulators about the financial status of IndyMac Bancorp, which resulted in a run on that bank’s deposits.

Restricting bank withdrawals

The banking industry is walking on pins and needles, hoping the bad news doesn’t become a self-fulfilling prophecy that drives bank depositors to demand withdrawal of funds en masse. Try to withdraw $10,000 from your bank today and you are likely to be told you can only withdraw $5000 at a time.

The banks know. The news media knows. The FDIC knows. The Federal Reserve knows. But DO YOU know?
There is a high likelihood the American banking system will fail, and you will likely be the last to know. The more panicked you get, and withdraw funds, the worse the implosion. In an effort to avert runs on the banks, will the news media delay informing the public of the current dire situation, which appears to be an inevitable system-wide banking collapse?

What to do?

So, while your bank still has money and can process your checks, it may be time to pay down debts, pay quarterly taxes and mortgage payments in advance, and think of having money outside of banks (gold, foreign currencies), etc., before your money is inaccessible or even evaporates!

Don’t think all your investments outside of banks are immune from all this turmoil. For example, money market mutual funds, where Americans have invested $3 trillion, are not covered by FDIC insurance (however, money market accounts offered by banks are covered). Recent losses in some of these money market mutual funds have caused some companies to rush to plug the losses. For example, Legg Mason Inc. and SunTrust Banks Inc., recently pumped $1.4 billion each into its money market funds. Bank of America Corp. has injected $600 million.

As for your checking and savings accounts, recognize you may have five different accounts in the same bank, but the FDIC only insures individuals, not each account, up to $100,000. Putting your money in different accounts in the same bank does not necessarily provide better insurance for your deposits.

Kathy M. Kristof of the Los Angeles Times offers a simplified explanation of what the FDIC does cover: "Knowing your insurance limits on bank accounts is key," Los Angeles Times, July 20, 2008.

Finding a bank


There are bankers today who know their institutions are doomed to fail soon. They will issue misleading press releases and put a positive spin on their financial status in a futile attempt to stave off a run on the bank by depositors for a time. Which financial institutions will fail first? "The only way to find out is for investors to push every institution toward failure and see which ones keep operating," says Joseph R. Mason, a financial economist at Louisiana State University in Baton Rouge. (Investors are pushing institutions to the limits to assess risk. Peter G. Gosselin, Los Angeles Times, July 20, 2008)

Ideally, find a bank that does not have any adjustable rate mortgages on its books, like Union Bank of California (in the top 25 U.S. banks, has over 334 branches in California, Oregon and Washington).

Recognize, when you deposit money in a bank you agree to allow the bank to use most of it to loan to others and only keep 10% of your money on hand for withdrawal. Banks operate on the supposition depositors won’t all need their accounts turned into cash withdrawals at the same time.

Will we ever address the underlying cause?

Of course, it’s the Fed that got America in this jam with fractional banking (banks loan out $10 for every $1 deposited) and fiat money policy (prints money at the whim of the government). Bank depositors today are paid about 2.6% interest while the stated rate of inflation is about double that figure. The actual rate of inflation is much higher still. Imagine, the consumer price index (an estimation of the cost of purchase of a basket of goods) does not include food or energy costs! Many sources estimate the actual inflation rate to be 11–12%. You are losing money just to give bankers an opportunity to use your funds. Given these figures, a $10,000 bank deposit loses, after interest is paid, about $840 a year in buying power. Just look at the dismal record of the Federal Reserve in preserving the value of the U.S. dollar (below). A rise in the consumer price index reflects a decline in the purchasing power of the dollar. This is just another form of quiet thievery of your money out the backdoor of the bank.

July 23, 2008

Bill Sardi [send him mail] is a frequent writer on health and political topics. His health writings can be found at www.naturalhealthlibrarian.com. He is the author of You Don’t Have To Be Afraid Of Cancer Anymore.

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Troke

Deceased
If only the Sheeple would stampede to their banks and pull their money out. Then everything this jerk predicts will come to pass and he will look like a prophet.
 

Dozdoats

Deceased
No matter how risky your bank might be, your dollars are every bit as risky. Why?

Inflation.

Right now it's costing you about 12% of the value of your dollar annually. That rate is likely to go up, not down.

Whether your bank stays solvent or not, your dollars are dying. Don't be blinded by the hype about banks, the FDIC, etc- pay attention to the big picture. PROTECT YOURSELF!

dd
 

Yours Truly

Veteran Member
If only the Sheeple would stampede to their banks and pull their money out. Then everything this jerk predicts will come to pass and he will look like a prophet.
Kinda like what happened to IndyMac. Thanks to Mr. Schumer, I might add. Remember, IndyMac wasn't on the list, and the bank run was only AFTER his letter was made public. Puts new meaning to the words - "Trust me, I'm from the government" - doesn't it.
 

MtnGal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Trouble at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Stirs Concern Abroad

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/07/21/business/21bank.html

Asian institutions and investors hold some $800 billion in securities issued by Fannie and Freddie, the bulk of that in China and Japan. China held $376 billion and Japan $228 billion as of June 2007, the most recent country-specific Treasury figures.

In Europe, roughly $39 billion in Fannie and Freddie debt is held in Luxembourg and $33 billion more in Belgium, countries that are home to large investment management firms. Investors in Britain hold $28 billion, and Russian buyers hold $75 billion. Sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East are also believed to be big investors in Fannie and Freddie debt.

The trillions in securities issued by Fannie and Freddie and backed by American mortgages were never explicitly guaranteed by the United States government, but foreign and domestic investors alike have always believed, because of the companies’ integral role in the housing market and their marketing pitch, that the guarantee would be backed up if it were tested.

Italic mine
 

Jonas Parker

Hooligan
The FDIC will become insolvent when the Federal Reserve Bank can no longer find a paper company and an ink company willing to sell to them...
 

AR15ER

Inactive
If only the Sheeple would stampede to their banks and pull their money out. Then everything this jerk predicts will come to pass and he will look like a prophet.


If everything was good, what harm would it do to take your money out of the bank?
 

alchemike

Veteran Member
Asian institutions and investors hold some $800 billion in securities issued by Fannie and Freddie, the bulk of that in China and Japan. China held $376 billion and Japan $228 billion as of June 2007, the most recent country-specific Treasury figures.

In Europe, roughly $39 billion in Fannie and Freddie debt is held in Luxembourg and $33 billion more in Belgium, countries that are home to large investment management firms. Investors in Britain hold $28 billion, and Russian buyers hold $75 billion. Sovereign wealth funds in the Middle East are also believed to be big investors in Fannie and Freddie debt.

current quote on freddie mac (FRE) is $10.63
52 week high is $67.20

those shareholders have already lost 84% of their FRE portfolio value...

fannie mae (FNM) is at $16.65
52 week high is $70.57

those shareholders have already lost 76% of their FNM portfolio value...

the whole thing is a ****ing joke...

it's the dead buying the dead...

o)<

mike
 

Turnpike Jim

Inactive
Those evil ARM's got me too. My 5/1 ARM is going from 4.25% to 5.25%. I can see how that is going to shatter the economy. Well, my economy anyway.

JIm
 

Troke

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"...If everything was good, what harm would it do to take your money out of the bank?.."

At any time, and I don't care what time, a sheeple stampede will cause the banks to fail. And that includes the good old days of the gold standard. I have read all kinds of old newspapers running down family tree stuff and they were full of failures. A run the bank almost always because of a 'rumor'. And the depositors stampeded and guess what. The rumor was true!

All that is required is that the sheeple stampede.

And we got a bunch of people, incuding the jerk that wrote the article, who think the sheeple are fools for not stampeding and crashing the system.

I think that anybody covered by FDIC is a fool for taking his money out if what he is fearing is that he will lose it. What for? All that bullsh*t that the FDIC is going to take 99 yr to get your money back is just that; bullsh*t.

I would be greatly surprised if you were inconvenienced more than 72 hours, if that.

I am constantly amazed at the position of many on this forum that the government is efficient. Yet when it comes to the FDIC, you absolutely refuse to follow through on that philosophy.

Me? The gov is efficient only in stumbling into war and debauching the currency. The FDIC thing debauches the currency. They will do that with consummate efficiency if they have to drop the currency from helocopters As Helocopter Ben, the current FDIC Main Man so eloquently put it, odd none of you seem to have noticed.

Prepping has the same problem. If everybody went out tomorrow to buy one additional week's supply of food, the system would crash, there would be food riots, the military would be called out to keep order and keep the food supplies coming and everybody here would go into an ecstacy..finally Martial Law!

And all that happened is that the Sheeple did what was recommended by correct thinking people.

Interesting, wouldn't you say?

I will add something more interesting. Let's say that over a period of time, all the citizenry had prepped one full month. Then came the current big jump in food prices. So instead of buying food, everybody decided to drain down their preps just a tad, like 10%. A 10% drop in food sales and no telling what Wall Street or whomever would make of that but it wouldn't be good.

The system can withstand anything except shocks. And if you want to kill it, just keep shocking it with a stampede here and a stampede there. And if you think that is a good thing, you might contemplate what will replace it. Because I can guarantee you at about the 99.9% confidence level, it will be worse than what we have.
 

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The system can withstand anything except shocks. And if you want to kill it, just keep shocking it with a stampede here and a stampede there. And if you think that is a good thing, you might contemplate what will replace it. Because I can guarantee you at about the 99.9% confidence level, it will be worse than what we have.


The problem is that the banking system is based on fraud and built on a house of cards. Given this circumstance, a shock is inevitable.
 

Troke

Deceased
"...a shock is inevitable..."

Well, I went into silver at DOW 4000 figuring there was no way it could last much longer.

But I am not interested in having a bunch of proto-Charley Schumers starting runs on the banking industry either.
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
In my opinion Troke is upset because he knows the guy is right and HE doesn't want it to be publicly known.

The author isn't a jerk, in as much as he's simply stating something we already know.

That if a significant number of Americans lose FAITH in any institution it will go under because everything we see around us that we thought for decades was sound and solid is either hollow or rotten in the core.

If 20% of Americans acted based on that, we would indeed crash it all.
 

Wowser

Inactive
What the real jerks do

Relax, relax....

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0032138/quotes

Wicked Witch of the West: And now, my beauties, something
with poison in it, I think. Something with poison in it, but
attractive to the eye, and soothing to the smell. Poppies...
Poppies. Poppies will put them to sleep. Sleep. Now they'll
sleep!

 

Troke

Deceased
"...If 20% of Americans acted based on that, we would indeed crash it all..."

Absolutely true. And if we can get them to do that, then all will come to pass as we predicted, including me way back when.

Which proves what? Back in the gold days, if you got a 20% run on the bank, it crashed. So what else is new?

Now I will let you in on another dirty little secret. It's 401(k) money that is keeping the market afloat. Up to 4+ trillion $ I have been told. So lets panic the folks, and have them jerk their money out and put it into Treasuries. I think they can do that, or least put future money into Treasuries.

Crash!

And I will have proven right when I got out of the market and went into silver.

I'd be a real financial genius, wouldn't you say?

All we need is somebody like Charley Schumer to tell the Sheeple the truth and all will come to pass as predicted.
 

AR15ER

Inactive
"...If everything was good, what harm would it do to take your money out of the bank?.."

At any time, and I don't care what time, a sheeple stampede will cause the banks to fail. And that includes the good old days of the gold standard. I have read all kinds of old newspapers running down family tree stuff and they were full of failures. A run the bank almost always because of a 'rumor'. And the depositors stampeded and guess what. The rumor was true!

All that is required is that the sheeple stampede.

And we got a bunch of people, incuding the jerk that wrote the article, who think the sheeple are fools for not stampeding and crashing the system.

I think that anybody covered by FDIC is a fool for taking his money out if what he is fearing is that he will lose it. What for? All that bullsh*t that the FDIC is going to take 99 yr to get your money back is just that; bullsh*t.

I would be greatly surprised if you were inconvenienced more than 72 hours, if that.

I am constantly amazed at the position of many on this forum that the government is efficient. Yet when it comes to the FDIC, you absolutely refuse to follow through on that philosophy.

Me? The gov is efficient only in stumbling into war and debauching the currency. The FDIC thing debauches the currency. They will do that with consummate efficiency if they have to drop the currency from helocopters As Helocopter Ben, the current FDIC Main Man so eloquently put it, odd none of you seem to have noticed.

Prepping has the same problem. If everybody went out tomorrow to buy one additional week's supply of food, the system would crash, there would be food riots, the military would be called out to keep order and keep the food supplies coming and everybody here would go into an ecstacy..finally Martial Law!

And all that happened is that the Sheeple did what was recommended by correct thinking people.

Interesting, wouldn't you say?

I will add something more interesting. Let's say that over a period of time, all the citizenry had prepped one full month. Then came the current big jump in food prices. So instead of buying food, everybody decided to drain down their preps just a tad, like 10%. A 10% drop in food sales and no telling what Wall Street or whomever would make of that but it wouldn't be good.

The system can withstand anything except shocks. And if you want to kill it, just keep shocking it with a stampede here and a stampede there. And if you think that is a good thing, you might contemplate what will replace it. Because I can guarantee you at about the 99.9% confidence level, it will be worse than what we have.

The system is a sham then, no?
 

mistaken1

Has No Life - Lives on TB
And we got a bunch of people, incuding the jerk that wrote the article, who think the sheeple are fools for not stampeding and crashing the system.
Considering inflation are the sheeple not fools for staying in the system?

Damned if you do and damned if you don't.
 

atlan

Membership Revoked
If only the Sheeple would stampede to their banks and pull their money out. Then everything this jerk predicts will come to pass and he will look like a prophet.

Exactly.

LOL at his advice to get your money out of banks early and pay down the mortgage, taxes, etc.... If it really came to this and no one can get to their money except the "smart" few who helped trigger the crisis in the first place, then what good is paying bills when no one else can? I can't understand this logic, it is so flawed and compartmentalized. Who will come after your assets if they, themselves can't get paid? There aren't enough Illuminati to do the dirty work, LOL LOL.
 

spinnerholic

Inactive
With all the talk and fear about the safety of your money in a bank, there is one kind of banking institution you do not see on the list of banks in trouble. And those are credit unions.

We have used credit unions for many, many years. And we keep close watch over them. Ours have not made any of those get rich quick loans that have shattered the dreams of home ownership for so very many people. Credit unions require proof of income, job information, good credit history - in other words, they qualify applicants, as all banks should. And not only for mortages for homes, but auto loans, boat loans - you get the idea.

Find yourself a local credit union, close out your accounts in other banks, place your money in the credit union and sleep peacefully at night.
 

saveamerica

Veteran Member
If only the Sheeple would stampede to their banks and pull their money out. Then everything this jerk predicts will come to pass and he will look like a prophet.

right. so keep your money in the phoney banks, in denominations of worthless $$$ ... that'll sure protect your family when tshtf. the "jerk" writing the article is merely trying to warn everyone of what is CERTAINLY to happen - sooner or later.
 
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