RACE Racial storm brewing as death of black man tasered 9x by white cop ruled homicide

Fred

Middle of the road
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-taser_witt-web-jul19,0,2201847.story

Taser death in troubled town
Some smell a cover-up in Winnfield, La., which is no stranger to scandal.
WINNFIELD, LA. -- At 1:28 p.m. on Jan. 17, Baron "Scooter" Pikes was a healthy 21-year-old. By 2:07 p.m., he was dead.

What happened in the 39 minutes in between -- during which Pikes was handcuffed by police and shocked nine times with a Taser while reportedly pleading for mercy -- is spawning suspicions of a political cover-up in this lumber town infamous for backroom dealings.

Racial tensions also are mounting; Pikes was black and the officer involved is white.

No novelist could have invented Winnfield, the birthplace of two of Louisiana's most colorful and notorious governors -- Huey and Earl Long.

The police chief committed suicide three years ago after losing a close election marred by allegations of fraud and vote-buying. Just four months later, the district attorney killed himself after allegedly skimming $200,000 from his office budget and extorting payments from criminal defendants to make their cases go away.

The current police chief is a convicted drug offender pardoned by then-Gov. Edwin Edwards, who is in federal prison for corruption convictions.

All that history is wrapped up in the Pikes case because the officer in question, Scott Nugent, is the son of the former chief who killed himself and the protege of the current chief, who hired him.

"A lot happens in this town and it just gets swept under the rug," said Kayshon Collins, Pikes' stepmother, who has participated in several protests over the case.

"What the police did to Scooter just isn't right. They would never have Tasered a white kid like that."

Conflicting information
According to the local newspaper, Winnfield Police Chief Johnny Ray Carpenter said Nugent spotted Pikes walking along the street that afternoon and attempted to arrest him on an outstanding warrant for drug possession; Pikes took off running, but another officer cornered him outside a nearby grocery store. Pikes resisted arrest and Nugent subdued him with a shock from a Taser.

On the way to the police station, Carpenter said, Pikes fell ill and told the officers he suffered from asthma and was high on crack cocaine and PCP. The officers called for an ambulance. Pikes died at the hospital.

The Louisiana State Police are investigating, and Nugent has not been charged with a crime in the case. The City Council fired him in May. Winn Parish District Atty. Chris Nevils said he expected to present the case to a grand jury after receiving the results of the state police investigation.

An autopsy determined there were no drugs in Pikes' system and that he did not have asthma, according to Dr. Randolph Williams, the Winn Parish coroner.

Moreover, according to Nugent's police report, Pikes did not resist arrest, and he was handcuffed while lying on the ground.

It was after Pikes refused Nugent's command to stand up that the officer applied the first Taser shock in the middle of his back, Nugent wrote.

Several more Taser shocks followed, Nugent stated, because Pikes kept falling down and refusing to get back up. Grocery shoppers who witnessed the incident told Pikes' family that he had pleaded with Nugent: "Please, you all got me. Please don't Tase me again."

Williams said police records showed Nugent administered nine Taser shocks to Pikes over a 14-minute period. The last two jolts, delivered as police pulled Pikes from a patrol car at the police station, occurred while the suspect was unconscious, Williams said.

Police called for an ambulance after Pikes was carried into the station and slumped into a chair.

He was pronounced dead soon afterward.

Death ruled a homicide
Williams ruled last month that Pikes' death was a homicide. On the death certificate, he listed the cause of death as "cardiac arrest following nine 50,000-volt electroshock applications from a conductive electrical weapon."

"God did not just call this young man home," said Williams, who has been parish coroner for 33 years. "Fourteen minutes elapsed between the first shock and the last. If somebody can tell me anything else that killed this otherwise perfectly healthy young man in 14 minutes, I'd like to know it."

Williams is no stranger to controversy. He says he has been shot at 19 times by people upset with his investigations, and his garage was firebombed in 2004. He wears a gun holstered at his waist even while sitting at his desk.

"This case may be the most unnecessary death I have ever had to investigate," Williams said.

Nugent, 21, declined to be interviewed. His attorney, Phillip Terrell, said Nugent "acted within the ambit of his training and Winnfield Police Department policies."

The official department policy, however, says "the Taser shall only be deployed in circumstances where it is deemed reasonably necessary to control a dangerous or violent subject."

In less than two years on Winnfield's 20-officer force, records show, Nugent has been the department's most aggressive Taser user.

Among the recipients were a 15-year-old black boy who was not charged with any crime. Joe Heard said his son was Tasered twice by Nugent last August, after Heard reported the youth as a runaway.

"He snuck out of the house to be with a girl," Heard said.

"I asked the police to bring him home, and they did, but in pieces -- he was all scraped up and bruised.

"They told me, 'The next time he runs, you know we're going to shoot him.' "
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
this is disgusting. what is the need to taze someone in handcuffs on the ground, and taze them over and over.

take the damn tazers away from the cops!!!!
 

Cardinal

Chickministrator
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This is one sadistic 21 year old cop. That being said, it sounds like the whole town is straight out of the 1920s Old South.

[FONT=Verdana,Arial]"They told me, 'The next time he runs, you know we're going to shoot him.' " [/FONT]

He is gonna get shot for sneaking out of the house to go see a girl?
Alabama (specifically Birmingham) used to shoot teens who stole hubcaps.
If any case demanded the presence of the NAACP/Sharpton et. al., it is this one.
 

jazzy

Advocate Discernment
relic,

id rather be shot and killed with a gun than tazed over and over and die that way.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
A 21 year old cop?? Thats part of the problem right there. Take a kid off the street with a little bit of college and then hand him a badge, a pistol, an AR-15, a taser and a high performance car and you have all the ingredients of looking for trouble. I'm sorry but cops need even more discipline than soldiers do. At least with a 21 year old soldier he has nco's and officers in his platoon to keep him in line. With a cop he's pretty much on his own. I don't think most guys (or gals for that matter) should be employed as a cop until they are at least 25 years old and they should have a partner riding shotgun with them for at least a year or two. Among other problems here is a lack of maturity at the base level.
 

TIK

Inactive
Thank you for allowing me to add yet another state on to my list of "DON'T VISIT OR MOVE THERE!"

Yikes...if it wasn't for SouthernMagnolia, I would think that state was chuck full of...of...of...not nice people.
 

Witness

Deceased
Take tasers away from cops!

This could happen to you or me. We need to, as honest citizens, police our police. If I was there I would have video taped it and took it to court or my senator or FBI.
 

American Rage

Inactive
My brother lives in Louisiana. It's about 40 years behind the times. Confederate battle flags are quite common.

Also, when I was there, the n-word was frequently used by the locals when only whites were around.

I could easily see problems occuring there.

At the same time, I also know that a lot of people these days, black and white and other colors too, always want to blame the cops. These folks are the last to look at themselves and ask what they could have done differently.

I ain't saying the cop was right, but I am saying there might be more to the story. For instance, was the man who died combative, ala Rodney King?

Still, I think the cops rely way too much on tasers. In the old days, they often wrestled people down. Today, it's straight to the taser for even minor offenses.



Rage
 

Straycat

Veteran Member
It was after Pikes refused Nugent's command to stand up that the officer applied the first Taser shock in the middle of his back, Nugent wrote.

Several more Taser shocks followed, Nugent stated, because Pikes kept falling down and refusing to get back up.

So the guy doesn't get up and gets tazed. Then the cop is mad and keeps on tasing him because the guy keeps falling to the ground? Didn't anyone explain to him what tasers DO?

I'd like to meet the person who could be tazed and then stand up right away. While handcuffed, no less.
 

Rams82

Inactive
I also heard that the guy that was killed was the cousin of Michael Bell the main defendant in the Jena six case.
 

Fred

Middle of the road
http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/08/13/la.taser.death/index.html?iref=newssearch

Officer charged in death of Tasered man

(CNN) -- A Louisiana grand jury indicted a former police officer on a manslaughter charge in the death of a man who was Tasered nine times while handcuffed, prosecutors said Wednesday.

Scott Nugent also was charged with felony criminal malfeasance in connection with the January death of Baron "Scooter" Pikes.

Pikes, a 21-year-old sawmill worker, tried to run from Winnfield police, who wanted to arrest him on a warrant charging him with cocaine possession.

A coroner's report found that Pikes was handcuffed and on the ground when first stunned with a Taser and might have been dead before the last two 50,000-volt shocks were delivered.

Nugent, who authorities said was the arresting officer, was suspended and ultimately fired in May.

If convicted, Nugent could get up to 40 years for the manslaughter charge and five years for the criminal malfeasance charge, Winn Parish District Attorney R. Chris Nevils said.

"It is our intention to show at trial that Mr. Nugent caused the death of Baron Pikes by Tasing him multiple times, unnecessarily and in violation of Louisiana law, and by failing to get him medical attention when it was apparent he needed it," Nevils said.

The indictment stems from a state police investigation into the death, which ended in late July.

Nugent's attorney, Phillip Terrell, could not be immediately reached for comment Wednesday evening. He said earlier that his client had followed proper police procedure.

A copy of the Winnfield Police Department's Taser training manual, obtained by CNN, says the device "shall only be deployed in circumstances where it is deemed reasonably necessary to control a dangerous or violent subject."
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Nugent is white; Pikes was black. Pikes' death led to demonstrations that drew several dozen people in Winnfield, Louisiana, a town of 15,000, roughly half of whom are black.

Police said Pikes told officers he suffered from asthma and had been using PCP and crack cocaine. But Dr. Randolph Williams, the Winn Parish medical examiner, said he found no sign of drug use in the autopsy and no record of asthma in Pikes' medical history.
 

ejagno

Veteran Member
My brother lives in Louisiana. It's about 40 years behind the times. Confederate battle flags are quite common.

Also, when I was there, the n-word was frequently used by the locals when only whites were around.

I could easily see problems occuring there.

At the same time, I also know that a lot of people these days, black and white and other colors too, always want to blame the cops. These folks are the last to look at themselves and ask what they could have done differently.

I ain't saying the cop was right, but I am saying there might be more to the story. For instance, was the man who died combative, ala Rodney King?

Still, I think the cops rely way too much on tasers. In the old days, they often wrestled people down. Today, it's straight to the taser for even minor offenses.
Rage

Hmmmmm, I don't know where your brother lives but I've lived in SW Louisiana all of my life and have traveled extensively throughout the U.S. and abroad. I'm not sure where you get the 40 years behind the times other than our very poor excuse for an educational system which is why we send our children to private schools and out of state colleges in some areas. As for the confederate flag, I cannot tell you the last time I've actually seen one other than when I passed through Mississippi a couple of weeks ago.

The N-word as you put it is NOT commonly used in my area. It is considered racist and hurtful. I'm sorry your brother chooses to live in such a terrible place it seems.

TIK, I'm really sorry that you feel that way. You have convicted a whole state on the actions of a few. Hmmmm, it's a good thing I've seen some really wonderful parts of your fine state...........in addition to some horrifying areas; then based my opinion and not judged. Of course, we're getting use to it following Katrina and Jena6.

I can see problems in every single state in the USA my dear. The last time I checked no state in America was free from crime.

THE COP IS TO BLAME in this case. No one is placing blame due to race. What this man did was murder and my only regret is that this cop wasn't charged accordingly and sent to prison for the rest of his life.
 

American Rage

Inactive
Hmmmmm, I don't know where your brother lives but I've lived in SW Louisiana all of my life and have traveled extensively throughout the U.S. and abroad. I'm not sure where you get the 40 years behind the times other than our very poor excuse for an educational system which is why we send our children to private schools and out of state colleges in some areas. As for the confederate flag, I cannot tell you the last time I've actually seen one other than when I passed through Mississippi a couple of weeks ago.

The N-word as you put it is NOT commonly used in my area. It is considered racist and hurtful. I'm sorry your brother chooses to live in such a terrible place it seems.

He lives near Shreveport, and yes I called it as I saw it.

Rage
 

G-Man

Inactive
The N-word as you put it is NOT commonly used.... It is considered racist and hurtful.



attorney's argument raises some interesting questions about the prevalent use of the N-word among certain sectors of society. Should it be used? Should only blacks use it? Should the N-word be banned altogether?

"I think the use of the word is fine as it pertains to hip-hop," said Nina Mickens, 23, an African American. A senior at Baruch, Mickens argued that although the word "relates to pain and suffering of blacks, it's understood as a different meaning now."

Earlier this year, rapper and actor Ludacris told Oprah Winfrey on her talk show that when pronounced with an "a" suffix, as opposed to an "er" suffix, the N-word indeed takes on a different meaning.
http://media.www.theticker.org/medi...HipHop.An.Excuse.For.The.n.Word-2280758.shtml


No, they save it for the Hip Hop music......:lkick:
 
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G-Man

Inactive
There isn't any "racial storm brewing" :shr:

Cops taser anybody and everbody and have killed many in doing this.

Now who approves and pays for cops to have tasers?
 

Amaryllis

Inactive
Hmmmmm, I don't know where your brother lives but I've lived in SW Louisiana all of my life and have traveled extensively throughout the U.S. and abroad. I'm not sure where you get the 40 years behind the times other than our very poor excuse for an educational system which is why we send our children to private schools and out of state colleges in some areas. As for the confederate flag, I cannot tell you the last time I've actually seen one other than when I passed through Mississippi a couple of weeks ago.

The N-word as you put it is NOT commonly used in my area. It is considered racist and hurtful. I'm sorry your brother chooses to live in such a terrible place it seems.

TIK, I'm really sorry that you feel that way. You have convicted a whole state on the actions of a few. Hmmmm, it's a good thing I've seen some really wonderful parts of your fine state...........in addition to some horrifying areas; then based my opinion and not judged. Of course, we're getting use to it following Katrina and Jena6.

I can see problems in every single state in the USA my dear. The last time I checked no state in America was free from crime.

THE COP IS TO BLAME in this case. No one is placing blame due to race. What this man did was murder and my only regret is that this cop wasn't charged accordingly and sent to prison for the rest of his life.

I hear the same type stereotypes about E Texas. Like you, I say the same thing: I've lived here for 36 years, and I've never noticed anything like that, thank God. People form their perceptions of certain areas based on one or two incidents, and that's just unfortunately how it is.

The two most ridiculously prejudiced and backward people I've ever met were from Kansas. I sure don't think ALL people from Kansas are like that. :shr:
 

buttie

Veteran Member
I think the fundamental problem with tasers is that they don't leave a mark, so the cops, being human, think they can use them with impunity. A club or gun leave photographic evidence.
 

Rams82

Inactive
I work in Shreveport LA and you can feel the racial tension much more so than where i live in E Texas. I will never forget my orientation at work seeing 3 different confederate flags worn by new employees. One was on a females purse and the other two were on males shirts. Some of the admin even have small ones on their desks that I have seen. I dont see anything wrong with displaying the flag but it seemed odd for a job orientation. Blacks dont seem to have as big a problem with the flag here though as in other parts of the country. Despite tensions people are civil with each other but you can feel it under the surface.
 

nharrold

Inactive
"He said earlier that his client had followed proper police procedure."...

Hmmm...well, isn't that an interesting procedure....?
 

Les

Inactive
So the guy doesn't get up and gets tazed. Then the cop is mad and keeps on tasing him because the guy keeps falling to the ground? Didn't anyone explain to him what tasers DO?

I'd like to meet the person who could be tazed and then stand up right away. While handcuffed, no less.


That is a fact....I've been the victim af a 50,000 volt electronic restraint device many times, AKA stun gun...(in training of course)....you don't stand up right away, you're disoriented, that's a good part of what they do.......
I noticed the last few years of my career that the new guys coming up lacked some things, one of thaose things being common sense...they did ok during the training, but had a hard time applying the training properly in the field....judgement was poor....

Electronic restraint, aresol weapons etc. do a great job keeping LEO from getting hurt during the dangerous scuffles, they give you a continuim of force, something to use between the scuffle and deadly force, but.....you have to know when and how to use them....takes a bit of caring...

ON the other hand I remember a situation where I had a drunk teenager, a kid I kinda likes when he wasn't drunk. I had taken him out of the football game, drunk...He hada bottle of MD 20/20 up each sleeve of his jacket....It was a bit comical....He was cooperative...My partner and I took him to my car, in handcuffs, I leaned him over the trunk of the car to search him before I put him in....He started banging his head against the car....Hard....I grabbed his hair on the back of his head in an effort to stop him....I knew what was going on, my partner knew what was happening, but anyone watching would have sworn I was beating this kids head against my car....
Things sometimes can be deceiving....

I am in know way saying this situation is anything other thasn what it was reported, homicide by a cop....


Les
 

bw

Fringe Ranger
I lived around Baton Rouge for about twenty years. I'd say north Louisiana has a worse reputation for racial problems than south. Around Baton Rouge, whether you spoke French was a much more important question than what color your skin was.
 
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