WAR Hilarious! Obama being in Iraq shows our policy is working, otherwise unsafe for him

Troke

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Look, the fact is that if Barack Obama's policy on Iraq had been implemented, Barack Obama couldn't go to Iraq today, it wouldn't be safe," Sen. Joe Lieberman, Ind-Conn., told Chris Wallace this morning on "Fox News Sunday."

...."If Barack Obama's policy in Iraq had been implemented, he couldn't be in Iraq today, is because he was prepared to accept retreat and defeat, and that would mean, today, al Qaeda would be in charge of parts of Iraq, Iranian-backed extremists would be in charge of other parts of Iraq. There'd be civil war and, maybe, even genocide. And the fact is that we are winning in Iraq today. And, you know, you can't choose, as Sen. Obama seems to think, to lose in Iraq so you can win in Afghanistan. The reality is, if we lost in Iraq, which Obama was prepared to do, we -- we would go to Afghanistan as losers."
 

sandra

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If his policy had been implemented and we were OUT OF THERE.... this would be a moot point wouldn't it?
 

Troke

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"...If his policy had been implemented and we were OUT OF THERE.... this would be a moot point wouldn't it?.."

Kind of. It would be just one more country no American dare set foot in. A long term goal of the Cultural Left, that we be surrounded by enemies.
 

someone

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"...If his policy had been implemented and we were OUT OF THERE.... this would be a moot point wouldn't it?.."

Kind of. It would be just one more country no American dare set foot in. A long term goal of the Cultural Left, that we be surrounded by enemies.

you are so deluded.

the cultural left? is that some type of yogart?
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Who in their right mind would even WANT to set foot in a muslim-dominated h*ll-hole part of the world? We should abandon the entire ME cesspit and let it implode like Zimbabwe....
 

Heliobas Disciple

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http://lawhawk.blogspot.com/2008/07/obama-timetables-and-iraq.html
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Saturday, July 19, 2008
Obama, Timetables, and Iraq

The left is making quite the stink that Iraqi Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki signaled to a German newspaper that he's in agreement with Sen. Barack Obama's declaration for withdrawal from Iraq in 16 months.

Let's look at what Obama has wanted. He wanted to cut and run. He opposed the troop surge. He said that the surge would not work. Now, after the Bush Administration and the US military did all the heavy lifting, he now wants to take credit and push for a withdrawal along timetables?

Taken together, Obama has not changed his position, but now is spinning his defeat and retreat withdrawal plan as some kind of victory for which he can take credit.

The only reason that the Iraqi government might consider any kind of a time table is because President Bush went ahead with the troop surge, listened to General Petraeus (called Betrayus by Obama's fellow travelers and supporters at Moveon.org and supported by the New York Times), and secured the country militarily so that the Iraqi government could press ahead with political gains and achieve nearly all of the 18 benchmarks set forth by the US Congress.

It is often said that victory has many fathers, but defeat gets blamed on one. Obama is now trying to take credit for the victory, even as he preached defeat and retreat on the same front and blamed President Bush for failure in Iraq.

Obama's withdrawal timetable is not based on anything other than his wishful thinking.

Prime Minister Nuri al-Maliki's hope for withdrawal is based on the gains imposed by the US and Iraqi forces working together and shouldering a load that Obama previously said was unattainable.

The two have different views of why the timetables should be in place.

Timetables also provide a guideline to al Qaeda, insurgents, and their fellow travelers to lay low until the US leaves, before resuming operations. By purposefully keeping to a strategy that doesn't reveal when and how US troops leave, it actually further improves US operational security and keeps the insurgents and terrorists off balance.

The US and Iraqis are also trying to negotiate long term security arrangements that enable the US to retain bases in Iraq, from which they can defend not only Iraq against foreign forces, but further project US security and strategic interests. Such arrangements are not unlike those that see US forces in Germany, Italy, and Japan more than 60 years following the end of World War II.

Obama continues to think that the war in Iraq is somehow separate from the larger war against al Qaeda and the Islamists, even though the US continues to capture al Qaeda on the battlefields of Iraq, and Iraq stands as a bulwark against growing Iranian influence in the region. Iraq has enabled the US to use its power and technology to full advantage to eliminate al Qaeda - things that are more difficult to accomplish in Afghanistan. The kinds of assets needed in Afghanistan are different than those used in Iraq. The goal is the same - to defeat al Qaeda and their fellow traveler Islamists, but to accomplish the goal takes a combination of lessons learned in Iraq plus new and different techniques.

I guess the best one can say now is that Obama has come around to a position where he's no longer preaching defeat on Iraq, but that doesn't make him any less of a weasel when it comes to Iraq. He's saying what ever he thinks the majority of Americans want to hear - that we're going to bring the troops home. Instead of a precipitous retreat, he's now saying that we've accomplished the mission.
 
Who in their right mind would even WANT to set foot in a muslim-dominated h*ll-hole part of the world? We should abandon the entire ME cesspit and let it implode like Zimbabwe....

While I agree, I do wonder how one would get to work and school once they implode and stop shipping crude oil. You know they will just set fire to the oil wells and kill all the contractors and that will be that.

Mad Max, here we come.
 
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