Milwaukeans Riot Over Flood Food Vouchers

[Red Baron]

This didn't take long.

How many people in this group actually -did- suffer any flooding?

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Crowd for food vouchers becomes unruly

A large crowd responding to a report of emergency food vouchers for flood victims became unruly this morning at the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services building at 1220 W. Vliet St.

"It's bad over there apparently," said Milwaukee Police Lt. Anthony Boylan. "They've got a lot of squads over there. Fights have been breaking out. Some woman had chest pain for stress."

Information was given out that the office was giving out free food vouchers, but they were only taking applications through FEMA for food vouchers, Boylan said.

Boylan said 34 police squads were sent to the scene, where people had been lining up since 5 a.m.

Anne E. Schwartz, police spokeswoman, said that by 7 a.m., 2,500 people were lined up and some of them started to rush the doors. Several people suffered minor injuries, she said.

Police have shut down southbound traffic on Walnut at 13th St and parts of Vliet St.

Told of the incident in Milwaukee, over reports of a food stamp distribution, a FEMA spokeswoman said that FEMA would not be involved with food stamp distribution and was unaware of any reports about it in the Milwaukee area.

Eileen Force, a spokeswoman for Milwaukee Mayor Tom Barrett, said her understanding is that applications for general flood assistance were to be taken at the location, but that somehow a rumor developed related to the food stamps.

According to the U.S. Department of Agriculture, 19 counties in Wisconsin - including Milwaukee County - have been designated for the Disaster Food Stamp Program.

All told, 92 flood-struck counties in Wisconsin, Iowa and Indiana have been made eligible for the program.

According to the Department of Agriculture's web page: "Through (the program) people who might not ordinarily qualify for food stamps may be eligible if they have had disaster damage to their homes or expenses related to protecting their homes, or if they have lost income as a result of the disaster, or have no access to bank accounts or other resources."

[mbo]

These people have been made so dependent on handouts, over decades, that they effectively cannot survive on their own.


Kinda parasitic like some lower life form.




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[Red Baron]

Crowd Becomes Unruly After Showing Up For Free Food Vouchers

Katie DeLong


MILWAUKEE – Milwaukee police say a crowd of 2,500 people became unruly Monday morning after showing up at the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services Center to receive free food vouchers as advertised on a news organization.

The center is located at 1220 W. Vliet St.

In actuality, the center was only taking applications for the free vouchers for people with flood damage to their homes.

Dozens of police squads, sheriff's deputies and medical units were called to the scene.

Click on the link under related content to see TODAY'S TMJ4's Jay Olstad reporting from the scene.

http://www.todaystmj4.com/news/local/20653254.html

[BigFootsCousin]

I just saw live coverage of this and it didn't show riots.

BFC

[Red Baron]

Early reports indicated there was fighting, traffic blocked and the crowd was trying to rip the doors off the building.

Sounds like a riot to me.

[imaginative]

They went crazy in Indy also- You've got to see the video at the link

None of these folks appear to be remotely hungry of suffering- but they are too eager to riot over minor inconveniences- these innercity folks attack the mailman when the welfare checks are late- when the SreallyHTF there will be complete mayhem...


Chaos Erupts As Storm Victims Try To Get Food Stamps

INDIANAPOLIS -- Chaos erupted outside Family and Social Services Administration offices in Indianapolis Friday as storm victims lined up to receive emergency food stamps.

The state has been giving out the stamps for the last six days, but police were called to some offices Friday as people waited in line for hours, Call 6's Rafael Sanchez reported.

The FSSA office at 4720 Keystone Avenue was overwhelmed by demand, and several people got confrontational. Lines began forming as early as 5 a.m.

"I was seriously affected by the storm. I lost everything, and I'm listening to people in line and they really didn't even need it," said Nikki Loyd. "They weren't even affected by the storm."

The offices at 3500 Lafayette Road were also swamped by requests for help as people from all over the county waited their turn.

The calm broke when employees told them that they would take applications for people who live in eight zip codes in Lawrence and Warren townships -- areas most affected by storm damage.

Tempers flared and workers quickly lost control of the situation. Police were on standby to calm a crowd quickly becoming unruly.

"Today, if you're not in these two zip codes, sorry about your luck," said Debra Pankow. "This is just crazy."

Officials told Sanchez that the confusion was created by a manager's e-mail about what documentation people had to provide to prove that they qualified for help.

Because of the extent of recent storms, assistance is being doled out on the honor system. People are signing an affidavit that says they are telling the truth. Anyone who would like to report fraud can call 800-446-1993.

Saturday is the last day storm victims can apply for emergency stamps in Marion County. One office will be open -- Community Alliance at 8902 E. 38th St. It will be open from 8 a.m. to 7 p.m.

http://www.theindychannel.com/news/16667475/detail.html

[Pass Go]

I'm sorry to write I thnk that in the future we'll be seeing many more reports like this. If that many people are lined up at zero-dark-thirty in Milwaukee and Indianapolis this bodes badly for everyone everywhere.

[SarahLynn]

It seems to make more and more sense every day to seriously think about
getting out of the big cities and into the much smaller towns/ villages, suburbs or even into the country.
I agree with mbo: "These people have been made so dependent on handouts, over decades, that they effectively cannot survive on their own."
A hungry mob will mindlessly attack and loot and kill.
There is definitely a strong entitlement mentality in most people and they will lash out at anyone they perceive to somehow have unfairly taken what should be coming to them.

[topcat46]

Originally Posted by imaginative

They went crazy in Indy also- You've got to see the video at the link


http://www.theindychannel.com/news/16667475/detail.html

Well, viewing the video it seems the trouble once again involved a certain demographic group.

[cider]

Those are good videos for me to watch. They will serve to move me into higher prep gear.
Wow.

[cider]

Originally Posted by topcat46

Well, viewing the video it seems the trouble once again involved a certain demographic group.

Yep!

[frazbo]

Originally Posted by SarahLynn

It seems to make more and more sense every day to seriously think about
getting out of the big cities and into the much smaller towns/ villages, suburbs or even into the country.
I agree with mbo: "These people have been made so dependent on handouts, over decades, that they effectively cannot survive on their own."
A hungry mob will mindlessly attack and loot and kill.
There is definitely a strong entitlement mentality in most people and they will lash out at anyone they perceive to somehow have unfairly taken what should be coming to them.

This is EXACTLY the reason we prep today, tomorrow and every other day that the Lord sees graciously to give us...you NEVER want to be where everyone else is....NEVER!

[SarahLynn]

Originally Posted by frazbo

This is EXACTLY the reason we prep today, tomorrow and every other day that the Lord sees graciously to give us...you NEVER want to be where everyone else is....NEVER!

I never really considered such things until I started reading here. Thank goodness for Shane's ads on worldnetdaily which eventually led me to this site. I've really had my eyes opened to a whole new world. Thank you again and again to so many of you who made me aware of so much, and I've still got a LONG way to go.

[dragonslayer2001]

some of us predicted food riots/fighting by the end of summer/fall.


Didn't even take that long. These are just precursor events to what is coming.


ds

[Castle]

Its sad....most of these people lost NOTHING in the floods!! Just another chance to get something free!!

I have several close friends who live in and around the REAL flood damaged areas...Delafield, Heartland, Wales, etc.. Most of them have flood damage, from moderate to severe. According to them, Milwaukee proper did not get much, if any flood damage.

This is just a harbinger of what's coming. You need preps...and the means to protect those preps. The animals who don't and won't work to support themselves will have no problems taking from you and yours....by force. I have asked myself over and over....Am I ready to kill someone over a loaf of bread? You bet....if its the bread I worked and saved for, and my family needs. Oh well, the gardens and trees can always use the fertilizer.

[jehu]

Originally Posted by mbo

These people have been made so dependent on handouts, over decades, that they effectively cannot survive on their own.

Kinda parasitic like some lower life form.

I am not going to disagree with the facts of what you posted.

I will ask, "What are you prepared to do to reverse that dependancy?"

Are you going to sit in your castle and defend you and yours, while the rest of the stampeding, ignorant, "sheeple" masses tear themselves apart, or are you going to proactivly become involved in the "re-education" of the ignorant in the ways and means of sutainability?


In rea-reading the event,

"Anne E. Schwartz, police spokeswoman, said that by 7 a.m., 2,500 people were lined up and some of them started to rush the doors. Several people suffered minor injuries, she said."

Sounds like your typical concert, or "black friday" sale rush.


But that's boring so let's turn it into a scary end-of-the-world event.

[Fred]

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[Bad Hand]

Like my friend from Nigeria said "They have a slave mentality they want everything given to them, that is why we sold them to you". If there really is a food shortage things are going to get real ugly real quick. Living in a big city will become very dangerous.

[kozanne]

Originally Posted by SarahLynn

I never really considered such things until I started reading here. Thank goodness for Shane's ads on worldnetdaily which eventually led me to this site. I've really had my eyes opened to a whole new world. Thank you again and again to so many of you who made me aware of so much, and I've still got a LONG way to go.

It was the aftermath of Katrina that compelled me to join here in 2005.

[Ender]

Like my friend from Nigeria said "They have a slave mentality they want everything given to them, that is why we sold them to you".

Who's "they"? Blacks?

Sounds pretty racist to me, Bad Hand.

I am with jehu on this one. WE are not superior; the only hope for this country is to educate each other and stand together.

[jed turtle]

there's a lesson here for jihadists:

all you've got to do is start a rumor, put up posters on phone poles, indicating that there will be free (whatever) given away at (address, date, time) for poor people. chaos ensues, cops all congregate to break it up, and there's yer big opportunity to blow up one of your more naive followers and take out a whole bunch of America's finest thin blue line that defends our way of life. just great. i don't see a solution for that particular tactic, considering the mindset of our entitlement class.

[dissimulo]

It seems to me that most riots are composed of 1% morons getting rowdy and 99% media blowing things out of proportion.

[mbo]

Originally Posted by jehu

I am not going to disagree with the facts of what you posted.

I will ask, "What are you prepared to do to reverse that dependancy?"

Are you going to sit in your castle and defend you and yours, while the rest of the stampeding, ignorant, "sheeple" masses tear themselves apart, or are you going to proactivly become involved in the "re-education" of the ignorant in the ways and means of sutainability?


In rea-reading the event,

"Anne E. Schwartz, police spokeswoman, said that by 7 a.m., 2,500 people were lined up and some of them started to rush the doors. Several people suffered minor injuries, she said."

Sounds like your typical concert, or "black friday" sale rush.


But that's boring so let's turn it into a scary end-of-the-world event.

Re-educating these people is an impossibility while they have no reason to become self-sufficient. Their education to date has been one of "complain loudly enough and you'll get your bennies increased."

Why should these people care about the ways and means of self-sustainability? Why should they care about home or neighborhood gardens, when if they just complain loudly enough their food stamps get bumped up? Same can be said of their housing subsidies, energy subsidies, etc. These folks scream bloody murder whenever time limits (in years) are proposed for welfare benefits.


It may very well look like a concert gone awry. Can't say I would tolerate any sort of equivalent behavior. My comment here was that the cause here was parasitic dependence.

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[sparkky]

it is hard to "re-educate" some one that shows very little interest in learning.

[Chocolatier]

Originally Posted by Ender

Who's "they"? Blacks?

Sounds pretty racist to me, Bad Hand.

I am with jehu on this one. WE are not superior; the only hope for this country is to educate each other and stand together.

Whoa! *Everyone* knows that a Nigerian can't be racist. Whites only for that!

[kozanne]

Originally Posted by Ender

Who's "they"? Blacks?

Sounds pretty racist to me, Bad Hand.

I am with jehu on this one. WE are not superior; the only hope for this country is to educate each other and stand together.

Look. I worked in the welfare system for 6 years. One of my duties was compiling a statistical report at the end of each month, broken out by 1) family composition [single, single head of household, married, widowed, etc.], and 2) race [black, white, hispanic, asian, alaska native indian, etc.]

I had to do this monthly. I worked there for 6 years, so I compiled 72 of these statistical reports for the dot govs. Without exception, black single head of household and white single head of household were neck and neck, every single month. The head of household in either group was overwhelmingly female.

Over a six year period, I watched countless times as one of these recipients proudly brought in their teenaged daughter to sign up for the same benefits she was raised on. The 'welfare mentality' does indeed exist, and I saw it every single day for 6 years. If someone thinks they are going to get something for nothing, what makes anyone else think they are suddenly going to change their mind and decide to contribute to society instead of taking from it? Pleez. I've simply seen too much to believe otherwise. Standing together is IMPOSSIBLE unless EVERYONE believes the same thing. And that is simply not the truth.

The fact that most of the people in that picture were black does not rattle my cage in the least. Not after 72 reports worth.

ETA: Why did I quit? Because I could not help people that DID NOT WANT TO BE HELPED.

[Ender]

Kozanne-

I am sure that you were truly trying to help people but if you have worked in that system, you KNOW it is set up to keep people under it's thumb- forever.

Once you enter it, there is only a very hard road out; I have seen it over and over again.

It may sound impossible for everyone to stand together- but it only takes 3% to change the world.

In the meantime, people have to be educated. Look at what Ron Paul has done in one short year.

[Oldotaku]

I've been out of the loop for a few days, but this morning on WHO radio (Des Moines), they were talking about giving out emergency food stamps for flood victims. They were BEGGING people to show up and take the freebies: "If the Government can help you with food, that leaves you that much more for repairs".

Can't give away food stamps in Iowa, but they break down the doors in Milwaukee. Does that tell you something?

[buttie]

The ONLY thing that will change the entitlement mentality is a relationship with our Lord Jesus Christ.

[ocd]

Problem is no matter how prepped you are if the fort is destroyed along with your stash you are screwed
This is why if you live in a area that can flood you should move if possible. A tornado is another thing if it whips out your home and stash you are just in as bad of shape..

[SouthernGal]

Originally Posted by topcat46

Well, viewing the video it seems the trouble once again involved a certain demographic group.

Hmmm, I noticed that myself when I watched the video.

[SouthernGal]

Originally Posted by Oldotaku

I've been out of the loop for a few days, but this morning on WHO radio (Des Moines), they were talking about giving out emergency food stamps for flood victims. They were BEGGING people to show up and take the freebies: "If the Government can help you with food, that leaves you that much more for repairs".

Can't give away food stamps in Iowa, but they break down the doors in Milwaukee. Does that tell you something?

Yep. And it goes along with this:

Where are the horror stories from Iowa?
Exclusive: Reader compares response of Midwest residents to those of New Orleans

Posted: June 20, 2008
1:00 am Eastern

By LETTER OF THE WEEK

I've been watching the media for the last two weeks, paying close attention to the coverage of the flooding in Iowa.

While I am certain that there has been quite a bit of local 24/7 coverage of circumstances; there doesn't seem to be any news teams from CNN, MSNBC or Fox News camped out on freeway overpasses or in overcrowded relief centers feeding us a constant mix of video of people looting stores for clothing, liquor and home electronics; overlaid with interviews from local political officials demanding to know when the president of the United States is going to show up personally and start delivering relief to these poor, huddled masses displaced by this disaster.

I cannot seem to find the coverage that includes the horror stories of people trapped in their homes as the water rose around them while the federal government did nothing, or the tales of local police departments abandoning their duty stations to save themselves.

Where are the stories of rescue workers being sniped at while trying to save these poor people who had absolutely no opportunity to save themselves?

Where are the $2,500 federally issued ATM cards? Don't these Iowans deserve to mourn their condition through the purchase of Gucci handbags and table dances just as their brethren in Louisiana?

Where is the constant criticism of the tepid federal response to this disaster? The latest story posted on the MSNBC website is entitled "Iowa flooding could be man's fault, experts say." I don't remember any news organization pointing out the flaw of building an entire city on land below sea level. No, but I do remember reporters and politicians blaming the feds for not reinforcing the levies for that submersible city. Not one bureaucrat or movie star has stepped forward to deliver a veiled accusation of purposeful destruction of the levies in these Iowa cities.

I can only imagine that there must be some unique difference that doesn't allow us to compare the two flooding disasters. I doubt it is the magnitude of the disaster, as approximately 4.2 million persons were living in Louisiana in 2005, and the population of Iowa today is almost 3 million.

If anything, you would expect Iowans to be less prepared to weather (pardon the pun) such an onslaught of nature, not possessing the sophisticated network of pumping stations and locks that surrounded New Orleans. I've seen footage of residents valiantly struggling to sandbag their levies in an attempt to protect their properties; I don't' recall seeing such footage from New Orleans. No doubt people will point out that the Iowans had days to prepare for this challenge. I seem to remember watching Katrina develop over a period of better than a week prior to landfall.

So what could be different? Could it possibly be that the difference resides in the character make-up of the people being challenged by this event?
I sincerely hope that Mayor Nagin and his fellow residents are taking notes. Although somehow, I seriously doubt it.
Bill Wavering

[SassyinAZ]

Originally Posted by topcat46

Well, viewing the video it seems the trouble once again involved a certain demographic group.

I can't watch the video, what's the demographic group?

Oldotaku, what is the difference between those in Iowa and the other locations?



Edited to add: Thanks SouthernGal, I didn't see your article before responding, nodding, kinda like comparing "victims" of Katrina in LA, specifically NOLA, to the "survivors" of the other states that we largely didn't hear about.

[Red Baron]

UPDATE: Woman describes crush of crowd



Several thousand people showed up at the Marcia P. Coggs Human Services Center after rumored reports that free food vouchers would be distributed. Photo/Gary Porter

Charline Britt was the 24th person in line at the Marcia P. Coggs public assistance building about 4:30 a.m. today, hoping to receive some help after her basement flooded during the recent rains.

By 8 a.m., she would be crushed up against a door, then passed out and feeling the stomp of feet on her back as people rushed the facility for food vouchers as a crowd outside spilled onto the street and called out 34 police squad cars from Milwaukee, as well as sheriff's deputies.

"They just went crazy down there, just totally crazy," said the 52-year-old Milwaukee woman, who had come to the facility with her sister.

Britt went to the offices after she had flooding in her basement from the recent rains. As she stood in line, she saw problems arising as early as 6 a.m. She said her sister called police, hoping they might come out with some enforcement.

"It was all the way around the block about 6 o'clock," she said of the line. "We were like, they need some enforcement out here. These people are already out in an uprage out here. My sister called police so they could try to disperse the crowd a little bit. About 8 o'clock, everything jumped off."

She said when the doors opened, people came from everywhere.

She said she was at the front of the line but estimated about 200 people "pushed their way through me." She estimated about 10 to 12 people at the front received minor injuries. Fire officials confirmed they had responded to one paramedic run but did not need to take anyone to the hospital.

"I just got smashed in between the door," Britt said. "They kicked me in my back, stepped over my shoes. I fainted when I got through the door. I passed out. They gave me oxygen."

Britt declined an ambulance trip to the hospital. She was still able to apply for assistance after paramedics released her. She will be visiting her doctor to check on her injuries today, she said.

She raised concerns today about what she considered to be a lack of organization for the event.

"People were all in the streets. It was almost like somebody looting, the way they had it. It was very upsetting to me. It's just pitiful," she said.

Milwaukee Fire Department spokeswoman Tiffany Wynn said two engine companies, one medical unit and a battalion chief remain at the scene working through a command center. She said firefighters will stay to ensure immediate care, if needed, and will provide water and assistance to those in line.

[Brutus]

Originally Posted by mbo

These people have been made so dependent on handouts, over decades, that they effectively cannot survive on their own.


Kinda parasitic like some lower life form.




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No.

They could survive perfectly well on their own. They simply WON'T.

Won't lift a finger to support themselves, won't do a thing to better their own situation, won't do a damned thing but stand in line for gov't handouts.

They COULD be out working a job and making a living like anyone else. They just WON'T.

[drafter]

Wow!! Better get those folks some food fast. They look like they're just wasting away from hunger.

[Brutus]

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[Pass Go]

It's not an issue of racism - it's more a lack of class and sense of entitlement that makes me not want to "stick together."

I have never taken food stamps, unemployment compensation or any other kinds of handouts, and it wasn't because I wasn't hungry or poor.

[Brutus]

Hmmm........

After studying that photo that accompanied the posted news story I've come to a conclusion:

The National Weather Service needs to devote its entire budget to the study of the weather that caused all that flooding and its attendant destruction. It seems that we have a new type of flood damage phenomenon at work here. Specifically, one that is race based.

According to that picture it only affects black people. It also appears that fat black people were disproportionately affected.

[Shooting Star]

Originally Posted by drafter

Wow!! Better get those folks some food fast. They look like they're just wasting away from hunger.

exactly what I was thinking - Most of them have rear ends at least 2 axe handles wide......