Catastrophe” Awaits Maine and many other northeastern states

Martin

Deceased
Catastrophe” Awaits Maine: Angus King
Written by Tom Walsh
Thursday, June 19, 2008
New Energy Sources Urgently Neede


NORTHPORT — Apparently, the sky IS falling!
That’s the word not from Chicken Little, but from former Maine Governor Angus King, who says he doesn’t use the term “catastrophe” lightly.

“This is a human catastrophe coming at us in the state of Maine in terms of energy supply and costs,” King said last week at a daylong seminar on harnessing tidal energy and offshore wind to confront runaway energy costs, costs he sees as a direct threat to Maine being habitable.

“This winter, the cost of fuel oil is going to more than double,” he said. “What’s being quoted now is $4.96 — $5 a gallon. That’s $1,000 to fill up your tank in the basement one time, and most people are going to have to fill up their tank six times.

“How is somebody who is making $350 or $400 a week going to pay to fill up the tank to keep warm? How are they going to pay to fill up the truck to get to work? This is, I think, the most serious crisis to ever face the state of Maine.”



Tapping the energy of coastal Maine’s offshore winds will require development of wind turbines not unlike those phased into use last fall six miles off the coast of Liverpool, England. The Burbo Bank Offshore Wind Farm uses 25 turbines, each standing 459 feet above the Irish Sea, to generate enough electricity to power 80,000 homes.—PHOTO COURTESY OF NATIONAL RENEWABLE ENERGY LABORATORIESKing told an audience of 120 state, regional and national experts on alternative energy concepts that the time for talk is over and that solutions need to be found and implemented. An investor in an onshore wind farm in western Maine, King said the greatest and most reliable source of wind energy is in deep water, some 25 miles offshore. Although the technology for harnessing that wind energy has yet to be developed outside of Europe, it better be soon, he warned.

“This is a catastrophe,” he said. “This isn’t business as usual. This isn’t some minor little problem. This isn’t do not pass school buses or what’s the speed limit on the Interstate. This is a disaster in the state of Maine that’s coming at us.”

King first sounded the alarm about energy costs undermining the social and economic fabric of Maine during a speech in April at Bowdoin College titled “The Saudi Arabia of Wind: Confronting Maine’s Energy Catastrophe.”

In that speech, and in his address last week at The Power of the Gulf seminar sponsored by the University of Maine Law School and the Gulf of Maine Research Institute, King noted that no state is more dependent on oil than is Maine.

“Eighty percent of homes in Maine are heated with oil,” he said. “The national average is 9 percent. If you do the math, 87 percent of the total energy bill of the average Maine person is dependent on oil or natural gas, and that is a particularly serious problem.”

King notes that oil prices have more than tripled in the last 10 years. Only six months ago, he said, the price of oil was $75 a barrel. Last week it was $114.

“A non-hysterical prediction is that, by 2020, oil will be $300 a barrel, which means $10 a gallon for gasoline, which means $10 a gallon fuel oil. It means filling up the tank in your car will be $200, with incomes not that different. It means $2,000 to fill the oil tank in the basement.

“Here’s the catastrophe part,” he said at Bowdoin College. “In 1998, energy — all energy: cars, home heating and electricity — was 4 percent of the average Maine family’s budget. Today it’s 20 percent. It went from 4 percent to 20 percent in 10 years. That’s pain.”

Should oil hit $300 a barrel, King said, that percentage would increase from 20 percent to as much as 50 percent of the average family budget.



Former Maine Governor Angus King“We go from pain to lethal,” he said. “We simply can’t survive that. This state and this country are not viable at that level of energy costs. If this happens, it’s all over. We won’t have an election for governor in 2020; we’ll have an election for chief park ranger, because that’s all this state will be, a large park of some kind that is largely uninhabitable.

“Fifty percent of your budget for energy and 20 percent for health care leaves 30 percent for everything else: mortgage, rent, food. It’s just absolutely unsustainable.”

King predicted in Northport that $300 oil would see families pulling up stakes and dramatically changing how they live.

“The old thing we heard was people choosing between medicine and food,” he said. “People are going to be choosing between heat and food. People are going to be living together. People are going to be moving in to have five or 10 people in an apartment to deal with this problem.

“This is a really urgent problem, and I don’t think the world has come to grips with how serious.”

Doing nothing is not an option, King said. That’s what created what he sees as an unsustainable status quo.

“Every president since Nixon has been talking about energy independence — all of my adult life — and we haven’t done a damn thing about it,” he said. “Nothing. We are just as dependent on oil today — and particularly foreign oil — as we were in 1970.”

King realizes he’s hardly painting a rose-colored scenario. He’s not being a pessimist, he feels, as much as a realist.

“I hope I have sufficiently depressed you,” he said at Bowdoin College. “This is serious stuff.”

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Sagelady

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No s**t Sherlock. Was talking with a co-worker this week. She had tears in her eyes when she told me her husband had to take a second job to pay her gas to get into work. She commutes about 45 miles in and has a small car. She said if gas goes up again very much, she'll have to quit her job. She doesn't make that much an hour so I can feel for her.

A lot of people commute into St. Louis from the far outlying areas anywhere from 30 to 100 miles away. It's going to be an ugly summer and winter. I'm grateful we've got wood heat and a gas furnace. Used to have an oil furnace. I remember measuring the oil in the sucker every week to try and gauge our usage so we would last longer. That was insane and back when it was just over a buck a gallon. I heard that our gas supplier, Laclede, just upped their rates 25%. AmerenUE upped theirs as well. Work is wavering on if we will even get raises this year since business is so bad. Insurance will go up again and eat away at whatever I might get as a raise.

We're still getting out to the country every weekend to camp and canoe, today we're hitting an access point with free camping. Bring our own wood and scavenge the woods. Got a late start, planned on getting out last night. Family arguments between DH and self got in the way. The pressure is heating up and we really feel it. It's like we know we're enjoying the last bit of freedom and recreation we'll see for a long time if ever. We're both at the last knot in the rope with jobs and demands on our time and resources. Fears of even keeping our jobs is right up there. What do you do???? :shr: Well, at least for today and tomorrow, I'll be on the Huzzah picking up nice rocks and enjoying the water and nature - while I still can.:rolleyes:


Sage
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
This guy needs to stand in the well of Congress and give this speech. Not that it would do any good.:shk: Good news though. I was listening to Cavuto on Business this morning. He said Congress is doing something. They passed a primate protection bill.:smkd:
 

Wowser

Inactive
Thanks for posting, Martin.

This is not limited to the NE. Sagelady pegged it. On the way to 5-5-5 ie $5 Gas-$5 Bread-$5 Gallon Milk, many people, this coming Winter, will be faced with: Eat, Heat or Drive?
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
He's right -- the only people who will be able to continue living in Maine will be those who own woodlots and heat with wood. And they won't have jobs, other than providing services to rich tourists who come to see the big park.

Does anyone have a copy of that map of the United States that shows 'their' goals as far as the parts they want to depopulate and return to the wild? If so, could you post it?

Kathleen
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Maine's population in 2000 was 1,274,923.

In 1900, which I presume to be well before oil furnaces and gasoline vehicles, the population was 694,466. They were hearty souls, but they did it.

The adjustment to the new reality will be uncomfortable--and by that I mean either moving south, switching back to wood, or fighting to control the price and supply of oil.
 

big_sarge

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I agree with the governor that a serious problem is coming in the way of heating this winter...

But I have a question...are all of the people we are worrierd about doing everything they can? In the winter I keep my heat set on 60. I wear LOTS of clothes and a cap indoors.

If it get so cold I need to turn on the heat I heat only ONE room and seal the others off. In my opinion there are a few people who also need to look at a lifestyle change...the world isn't always between 68-72 degrees.
 

Pass Go

Inactive
We SHOULD have a president having this talk with the nation to set goals and begin acting on them NOW.

Freeholder, you may just be right. Papa probably wants Kennebunkport and the whole state to himself.
 

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
We SHOULD have a president having this talk with the nation to set goals and begin acting on them NOW.

Freeholder, you may just be right. Papa probably wants Kennebunkport and the whole state to himself.

Amen.
I really have to find a way to stop thinking about this because it does no good for the blood pressure. I really can't understand why nothing is getting done. All we get are sound bites and talking points from a bunch of parrots.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I'm not clear on why he's pounding the drum for this coming winter when NOTHING he suggests could possibly have any bearing on consumer costs this winter (except maybe to add additional fees and taxes to state residents). Large-scale wind and tidal generation projects have a heck of a lot longer lead time than six months, but money to build them would be a NOW expense. He's right about the potential for severe economic consequences with very high heating costs but wrong about thinking that alternative energy is going to do squat for this coming winter (and probably not for the next several winters). It takes TIME to plan and build those large-scale projects -- they've been (and are still) building the monster wind generators in eastern Oregon for a few years now and only now are they really starting to add any significant flow of electricity to the grid (and it's still definitely not enough to power all that many homes through a Maine-style winter).
 

Greenspode

Veteran Member
Big Sarge, 60 degrees??? Sounds like luxury to me. We turn off the heat to the upstairs completely (you can see your breathe when your in bed!) and keep the downstairs at 40. We plug in a space heater in the bathroom and one in the basement to keep the pipes from freezing. Gets mighty chilly here in upstate NY, but we have learned to adapt. Lots of clothes and blankets! I think 60 degrees, and even 50, is out of reach of most people in the north. We could barely afford to heat to 40.

Will hopefully be moving this winter and will be able to have a wood stove. I can't wait!
 

big_sarge

Inactive
Well I am lucky because I live in a big apartment building and get lots of radiant heat from the hall and the apartments below...so 60 is where my apartment hovers most of the time. Sometimes I do have a bout of weakness and have to have a bit more heat, but normally I will do that in my car.

As for the nighttime, I also sleep with no heat on then....lots and lots of balnkets and a cap...

It would be rougher in upstate NY. I would worry about my pipes freezing.
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
What are the folks farther north doing and saying? How is this crisis effecting eastern Canada? Canada produces oil; are they setting their own prices? or are they also under this global wheel?
 

jba48

Veteran Member
Greenspode,

If you're really keeping your house at 40, you really do need to move south. I have four kids, the youngest of which is 8 months old, and I will never ever allow her to live in a house that's 40 degrees. I would live in a tent in southern Florida before I'd ever do that.
 

Anne in TN

Deceased
We chose a new Vanguard VP30BT propane heater, 6 years ago, http://webpages.charter.net/blgasworks/blspace.html rather than a wood stove to supplement our electric heating should electricity go out. We had it professionally installed by our propane company. We have never needed the heater until this past winter. My son turned it on and in 5 minutes we were both sick with headaches and the room smelled bad. Needless to say, I am very discouraged. I don't know how people can stand those things.

We can't use the heater and have lost the chance to get a wood stove. I really goofed on this one. We have plenty of trees on our property and could have easily furnished a wood stove.

When we ordered the heater, propane didn't cost all that much. I thought I had made a good decision as I didn't want to worry about the house burning down because of a mishap with the wood stove.

Do any of you out there have a heater like ours? How can you stand it. I felt like it was about to kill us!
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Anne... are you sure it's not just because it IS brand new and hasn't ever been run? Lots of new appliances smell odd/weird/downright horrid when they heat up for the first few times... it's the various paints and other chemicals used in manufacturing outgassing.

If you're SURE the heater is installed correctly (got a carbon monoxide detector?), then when it cools down, turn the thing on and LEAVE THE HOUSE for a few hours. Then see. I can't believe a properly installed propane heater should make anyone sick.

Summerthyme
 

Martin

Deceased
Oil Prices Turning Mainers Into Gamblers in Planning for Winter
Written by Jennifer Osborn
Thursday, June 19, 2008
ELLSWORTH — Record heating oil prices are turning Mainers into gamblers.

Should you commit now to a price of $4.60 a gallon? Or wait to see if prices drop? But what if prices continue to rise?

“I guess it depends on the risk-taking side of the individual who is making the purchase,” said Jamie Py, president of the Maine Oil Dealer’s Association.

“This is an unprecedented price spike,” said Py. “There are a lot of experts suggesting this is a bubble. There are also experts suggesting this is a reality here to stay.”

Mike Shea, president of Webber Energy, said, “If you have to live within a budget and you know what that number is and it’s more important prices don’t run away from you, you have to make your own best judgment.”

Py said consumers should consider signing up for a cap program or protection program, which limits how much you’ll pay.

“Not everybody is offering these programs because those programs are difficult and expensive to offer,” said Py. It will cost you more money because there will be insurance costs, he said.

Webber Energy and Dead River Co. offer protection programs.

Webber Energy is offering a price protection program, which starts in April and ends in October. The plan is priced daily based on the futures market.

Shea said the price protection plan is both a pre-buy program and/or a commitment to a price.

Webber has been advising its customers to lock in prices for a half or a third of their volume now and then wait a bit to see where the market goes, said Shea.

If prices rise, at least they’ve secured a portion of their oil at a lower rate, Shea said. And if prices decline, they can purchase the rest of their oil at the reduced price. “It’s probably not a bad strategy.”

Dead River Co. is offering a cap program.

“Our most popular program is our easy cap program, which provides a ceiling price but then will allow the price to fall if the price of oil drops,” said Scott Kimball, district manager in Ellsworth. “That way you get protected both ways and you’re not locked into anything.”

The program guarantees you won’t pay more than $4.99 a gallon, Kimball said. However, if the price would drop to $3.50 or $3 a gallon, then that’s what you would pay.

Kimball said the program is open now and usually remains open through the summer.

“But I wouldn’t recommend that people wait to get on the program because of the volatility of the energy markets,” Kimball said.

The Maine Office of Energy Independence and Security said the price of heating oil in Maine has risen 70 percent or $1.89 since the beginning of the last heating season.

Elsewhere in New England, pre-buy programs are scarce. The New Hampshire Union Leader reported Tuesday that many New Hampshire oil companies are either delaying their programs or not offering them at all due to the rising cost of oil.

A Reuters.com story stated last week that dealers in Massachusetts aren’t offering the traditional pre-buy programs this year.

http://ellsworthmaine.com/site/inde...ent&task=view&id=15169&pop=1&page=0&Itemid=31
 

Richard

TB Fanatic
I'm not clear on why he's pounding the drum for this coming winter when NOTHING he suggests could possibly have any bearing on consumer costs this winter (except maybe to add additional fees and taxes to state residents). Large-scale wind and tidal generation projects have a heck of a lot longer lead time than six months, but money to build them would be a NOW expense. He's right about the potential for severe economic consequences with very high heating costs but wrong about thinking that alternative energy is going to do squat for this coming winter (and probably not for the next several winters). It takes TIME to plan and build those large-scale projects -- they've been (and are still) building the monster wind generators in eastern Oregon for a few years now and only now are they really starting to add any significant flow of electricity to the grid (and it's still definitely not enough to power all that many homes through a Maine-style winter).

quite right it;ll takes years for any project to come to fruition probably 10 years even if started now, wind and tidal power is imo a complete waste of time
 

don24mac

Veteran Member
We chose a new Vanguard VP30BT propane heater, 6 years ago, http://webpages.charter.net/blgasworks/blspace.html rather than a wood stove to supplement our electric heating should electricity go out. We had it professionally installed by our propane company. We have never needed the heater until this past winter. My son turned it on and in 5 minutes we were both sick with headaches and the room smelled bad. Needless to say, I am very discouraged. I don't know how people can stand those things...

Anne, I notice your stove is vent-free. That's why it stinks. Is there a way to vent it, or possibly trade it for a vented? Any wood or coal burning stove would need a chimney. Gas can get away with just a small vent. Is there a way to add one? If not, those stoves sometimes need to have a window open somewhat when using them. For sure, get a Carbon Monoxide detector.
 

Firebird

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I don't know how you guys do it up north. You must really love the area a lot. I would move south. We hardly even run heat down here and the highest summer electric bill I will ever see is $325.
 
The desert SW is probably going to seem more attractive than ever to those who have the financial ability to move here.

Winters are pretty moderate - as is most of the summer (except for what is called "monsoon", meaning it 'can' rain). Even the warmest summer evenings are very pleasant as soon as the sun goes down.

Solar heating thru the windows works well and fans take care of most cooling needs in the summer. Many folks don't even have A/C - just "swamp coolers" that ADD humidity to the air, cooling it in the process - works pretty well, too.
 

sssarawolf

We're just plugging along.
The thing that worries me is what if some of those scientists are right and we are headed for another mini ice age. I sure hope not. We also heat with wood and this past winter we had a grand total of 10 feet of snow. It snowed on us 2 weeks ago of all things and was 30 deg. Been a very cool June.
Good luck and the Lord Blessings on you all.
 

Robin Hood

Veteran Member
Good catch Martin

The perfect storm is coming this September for this area. Oil is sky high, gas prices are through the roof and food is up and away. It all comes together in the fall. Many people put in wood stoves in the 70's then dismantled them 10 years later. Now it is very costly to buy and install a wood stove. Most people that I have talk to do not have alternative heat source outside of a fireplace which is very in efficient. In may neighborhood, there are very few people with wood piles. Indeed, something wicked this way comes.


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Scotto

Set Apart
Thanks for posting, Martin.

This is not limited to the NE. Sagelady pegged it. On the way to 5-5-5 ie $5 Gas-$5 Bread-$5 Gallon Milk, many people, this coming Winter, will be faced with: Eat, Heat or Drive?

That's why we say the S is hitting the F right now, and got preps?
 

Hokey

Veteran Member
What are the folks farther north doing and saying? How is this crisis effecting eastern Canada? Canada produces oil; are they setting their own prices? or are they also under this global wheel?

Delta,

We're still under the same global wheel. Our gasoline prices are now over $5 US equivalent here. Each province has a different mix of energy resources. In New Brunswick here we have a very good mix. Since the Maritimes Northeast pipeline came through we now have the major centres hooked into natural gas. The province also has its own natural gas productions at the McCully Field near Sussex and potential of more. Not many people know but one of the oldest oil fields in North America is in New Brunswick (Stoney Creek), south of Moncton. We have thermal oil, coal, bunker C generating stations, some hydroelectric and of course the Point Lepreau nuclear power station. The nuke station is undergoing refurb right now and talks of a second plant for the future. Wind energy is also coming in our province with several wind energy projects underway. They are also starting to look into tidal energy in the Bay of Fundy. We also produce our own coal which supplies a small thermal station at Grand Lake but this won't be for much longer most likely. Oh, we also have our own refinery in Saint John which is looking into expanding, and theres a liquified nat gas terminal going in there too. So we pretty much have everything except solar.

Prince Edward Island is vulnerable and purchases most of its power out of province. Wind energy has some potential there. I'm not sure, but I would guess home heating oil use there would be high.

Nova Scotia has mostly thermal stations but they have offshore oil and gas and a planned liquified nat gas project underway.

Newfoundland will be a have province eventually with its offshore oil and gas.

But the kicker is we have Quebec next door to us all with relatively cheap hydroelectric power. However, everyone wants it and north america is all tied in to one big knot as far as energy markets go.

The Maine governor gets it but maybe he's over-reacting. People can switch to electricity or Maine can go on a nat gas line binge. A mix of energy sources is better. Wind energy and tidal energy is not a short term solution.
 

G-Man

Inactive
COME ON DOWN!

I would live in a tent in southern Florida before I'd ever do that.

Come on down to sunny and warm South Florida - we got rows and rows of thousands upon thousands of new condos standing empty and just waiting for you folks from the North to move in! Mortgage rates are still at an all time LOW and if you can fog a mirror you can get one! Or just rent, either way LOTS and LOTS of empty residential housing and prices are falling quarterly!

Anything below Daytona Beach is going to be approx 80 degrees year round. For those who just can't go with out experienceing a little winter the northern parts of the state still have a mild winter season (no snow and hovering around 40)

Plenty of low paying service jobs for everyone

Many Canadians and transplants from Maine and Michigan already are here!


SO COME ON DOWN! :rdog:
 

G-Man

Inactive
former Maine Governor Angus King, who says he doesn’t use the term “catastrophe” lightly.

This guy rocks! One of the few politicians who has the guts to speak out about this scheme that is being pulled on us.....
 

Kent

Inactive
We chose a new Vanguard VP30BT propane heater, 6 years ago, http://webpages.charter.net/blgasworks/blspace.html rather than a wood stove to supplement our electric heating should electricity go out. We had it professionally installed by our propane company. We have never needed the heater until this past winter. My son turned it on and in 5 minutes we were both sick with headaches and the room smelled bad. Needless to say, I am very discouraged. I don't know how people can stand those things.

We can't use the heater and have lost the chance to get a wood stove. I really goofed on this one. We have plenty of trees on our property and could have easily furnished a wood stove.

When we ordered the heater, propane didn't cost all that much. I thought I had made a good decision as I didn't want to worry about the house burning down because of a mishap with the wood stove.

Do any of you out there have a heater like ours? How can you stand it. I felt like it was about to kill us!


Yea, they really stink the first time you light them, also each year when you start using them. If it is burning correctly you should have no problem after the first burn. CO detector is a really good idea.
 

rafter

Since 1999
I've noticed on MSM there is always plenty of talk about gas prices, but never anything said about how are people going to heat their houses this winter. I guess they don't want the sheeple to think about it.
 

OldMan

Candy’s dandy, but a back rub is quicker.
With all the new wood stoves being installed this year,there is most likely going to be a serious shortage of DRY SEASONED firewood in the northeast ... and most likely a surge of house fires caused by people (many inexperienced) burning wet green wood causing rapid cresote buildup and chiminey fires.

Maybe one thing the Maine guvner can do is a series of public service announcements teaching people how to burn wood safely.


:ld: OldMan :ld:
 

JRL

Inactive
What are the folks farther north doing and saying? How is this crisis effecting eastern Canada? Canada produces oil; are they setting their own prices? or are they also under this global wheel?
We live in Eastern Canada & the picture isn't pretty. Gas for our cars is just under $5/gallon. We heat with wood so I am not up on the price of heating oil. But last winter my BIL & his family couldn't afford oil for their furnace so they wore their winter coats, boots etc. inside the house to keep warm, their pipes froze. They don't tell anything, so we just heard this through a third person. If we had known we would have tried to help some how, but you can't help folks who keep telling you that things are just fine when they are not. We ourselves don't have alot of extra cash, but we try to be frugal to keep costs down.
 

Martin

Deceased
Energy costs driving rush for stoves to heat homes

By Karin Crompton


Published on 6/21/2008 in Home »Main Photo
A couple of weeks ago, as temperatures swelled into the 90s and the air was thick with humidity, Joseph Biber was apologizing for being inaccessible. Business, he explained wearily, had been madcap.
Biber, who owns the Preston Trading Post, sells stoves and furnaces.

On Friday, Biber said, the pace was the same: nuts. In a phone interview, he said he had just had sales books dumped in his lap and the charts showed business was way up from March through June.

Biber declined to provide numbers but said he normally stocks about 500 stoves and has been consistently back-ordered this year. Pellet stoves are the biggest sellers.

”The only thing I can say is, at this rate, the amount of product will be depleted,” he said. “And while many people might think that's sort of an advertising or marketing push, that's not the case at all. I really fear that many people who may want to avail themselves of an alternative-energy product who do not heed the warning will find themselves shut out.”

Biber and others attribute the early run on wood and pellet stoves to the eye-popping price of oil, which has almost doubled from the price many people locked into last year.

”We're figuring the fall is going to be ridiculous,” said Jack Mahoney, who owns Dublin City Chimney Sweeps in Gales Ferry with his wife, Laura.

Mahoney guessed that many people who locked into prices of about $2.50 a gallon last year will gasp when their contracts run out in August or September and they suddenly learn about prices approaching $5 a gallon.

By then, he and others say, it might be too late to get a wood or pellet stove for the winter.

”Everyone in the industry knows we're not going to have enough product,” said Biber, who said his three salesmen on the stove floor are busy all day, a pace typically seen in September or October.

Linda Kubas, who owns Riteway Chimneys LLC with her husband, Daniel, said June is usually a time for masonry work. The wood-stove business cycle doesn't normally start until about August, she said.

”A lot of people are using their tax rebate checks,” Kubas said. “A lot of people are putting that money toward an alternative heating source. I hear that all the time.”

Those who are able to get the stoves this year will save a considerable amount of money, Mahoney said.

”I used to tell people, 'If you can get your money back in three years, you're doing well.' “ he said. “Now you're getting it back in one year.”

Thomas Haley, whose pellet stove Riteway installed on Friday, said his wife calculated that the family will break even in one year.

”The primary reason (we bought one) was because the last time our oil tank was filled up, it was an incredible amount of money,” said Haley, who said they paid $2.69 a gallon last year.

The Haleys bought three tons of pellets, which is expected to last them the winter, for the price of one oil tank fill-up, he said.

Haley said he has also heard from those in the business that the product will be scarce this year.

”We bought our stove in the middle of April,” he said Thursday, “and we didn't receive it until a couple of days ago.”




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genrim

Veteran Member
With all the new wood stoves being installed this year,there is most likely going to be a serious shortage of DRY SEASONED firewood in the northeast ... and most likely a surge of house fires caused by people (many inexperienced) burning wet green wood causing rapid cresote buildup and chiminey fires...
Where I live in Vermont, there are already shortages of firewood and the price is going way up. I just got my last two cords of green wood (for the winter after next) at $170/cord, which is a good price right now. The last cord I got a couple weeks ago was $155.

My firewood dealer said the phone is ringing off the hook and other dealers are running out of wood and trying to buy it from them.
 

Martin

Deceased
Mills can't keep up with demand



06/22/2008


from the Morning Sentinel



BY LARRY GRARD
Staff Writer

With a run on wood pellet stoves comes a rush in demand for the compressed, dried wood that fuels them.

"People are panicking," said Mack Curtis, who owns Wayne's Stove & Canoe Shop in Madison. "I see pickups going by with a ton, or a trailer going by with two tons."

Curtis estimated that an average household might burn a little more than 2.5 tons of pellets during the heating season. That would put the cost at $918 compared to $2,015 for heating oil at $4.50 per gallon and $811 for wood at $250 a cord, he said.

Maine Woods Pellet Co., which began production two months ago, had intended to focus first on commercial customers such as mills.

But the Athens mill, still not running at full capacity, is scaling back a bit on its commercial orders as it tries to meet demand for residential use.

"I've heard a few stories that people are buying them a year or two ahead," said Bob Linkletter, part owner of Maine Woods Pellet. "I know a lot of people who are buying early. We've got a lot of orders."

Linkletter said that Maine Woods Pellet will sell pellets in 40-pound bags or one-ton "super sacks" to local customers, within a 20- or 25-mile radius of Athens, on Saturday mornings. "We're getting orders from all sorts of groups, stove shops, employees who band together," he said.

Locally, Maine Woods Pellet distributes to Springbrook Oil in Waterville, Rocky's Stove Shop in Augusta, Paris Farmers Union, Dysarts of Bangor, O'Hara Ice of Rockland and A.E. Robinson, Dover-Foxcroft.

Dan Parks, operations manager of Fabian Oil of Waterville and Oakland, thinks the rush to pellet stoves is temporary.

"I've been through the wood honeymoon," he said. "When oil went up, people started burning wood. When it went back down, they stopped.



http://morningsentinel.mainetoday.com/news/local/5165711.html
 

Pass Go

Inactive
Connecticut is regarded as the Miami of New England as we have the most temperate climate in the north, but even here it can get quite cold. Last winter we escaped the brutality of a really cold winter, but still I have had to become creative when it comes to heating the house.

Oil fired furnace keeps my home from going below 58 degrees when I'm not home. I installed a timer thermostat to save as much as possible, and it also keeps DD from cranking the temp up when I'm not here.

I also have econo heaters which are fairly inexpensive to run. When I bought them the ad said they cost three cents and hour to run... anymore, I don't know, but they are still the cheapest of the electric heaters.

I also have a Heater Buddy propane heater, which I can run for an hour to really heat the place up. A 20# bottle of propane lasts a little more than a month when used like this.

I bought 3 Dietz oil lanterns which are rated at 1300 BTUs, so three of them heat pretty darn well. One of them has a cooking platform on top, too!

I guess I'm doing the same thing every one else is - trying to conserve as much as possible and not freeze to death.
 

rafter

Since 1999
I'm not a pellet stove fan just because of the shortages of pellets and the fact that they won't run with out power.

And I can say this. If there are people out there buying them a year or 2 out to stock pile. They had better be stores where not an ounce of moisture can get to them. I'd hate to see someone open up a bag and pour out sawdust instead of pellets.
 
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