City forcibly removed old woman's burned house; bills her $14,000

dissimulo

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Gah! This kind of stuff makes my blood boil. If you own the property, you should be able to have a pile of charred debris on it as long as you like.

http://www.thedailyworld.com/articles/2008/05/17/local_news/01news.txt

Hoquiam woman looking for help
BY JACOB JONES - The Daily World
Saturday, May 17, 2008 12:11 AM PDT

Kitty Rowell wonders why demolition crews left it. They didn’t leave anything else.

But there it sat, a chipped statue of a red rabbit with her babies. It is the last of the treasures Rowell collected in the 35 years before a fire destroyed her Hoquiam home last December.

“That’s the only thing they forgot,” she said of the statue, “and I don’t know why they left it.”

Rowell eyed the rabbit while smoking a cigarette Wednesday near what was left of the home’s bare foundation. She leaned on a damaged RV that now contains most of her possessions. Drops of rain clung to the 71-year-old’s hair.

“They took the mail box too,” she added.

Recently, the City of Hoquiam forcibly removed tons of charred debris remaining from the fire citing public safety issues. Officials then presented Rowell with a bill of more than $14,000 for the work — due next month.

Meanwhile, Rowell sleeps in her car at the curb of her property. Living on $700 a month in disability checks, she said she doesn’t have anywhere else to go. Her dog, TV, keeps her company.

City officials say they cut Rowell every break they could, but on April 23 and 24 they brought in crews to clean up what had become a safety risk and public nuisance.

Building official Orlando “Lon” Howell said the city only arranged the clean-up after Rowell proved she could not do it herself.

“The idea was not to make a hardship on her,” Howell said. “It was a toxic site and definitely unsafe.”

He said the city sought a lower price, but a third lien will be placed on the property if she doesn’t pay the $14,293 bill by June 6. The cost includes hauling away the tangled debris, demolishing a shed and removing unsafe concrete footings.

“It’s an empty lot now,” he said.

Four months after the fire, Rowell still fought to continue her salvage efforts, picking through the blackened remains of her home even as heavy machinery hauled it away.

Plastic tote boxes of newly-bought items like coffee and spices were taken with the trash, she said. Quality lumber and recyclable metal were taken away before she could try to get money for them.

“She had four months to remove whatever she wanted,” the building official responded. “She had three different letters stating that.”

Rowell’s daughter, Darcy Calchina, said she was “appalled” by the entire situation. She listed dishes, food goods and small appliances all hauled away by the clean-up effort.

“I don’t understand how the city can come in and take everything somebody owns because their house burned down,” she said. “But that’s what they did.”

Calchina said the family has helped as much as they can, but it’s difficult. Habitat for Humanity and the Federal Emergency Management Agency have turned her down.

She said the city is only making things harder.

“They just treat her like she’s not even human,” Calchina said. “I understand the city had to go in there, but I don’t agree with how they did it. They took everything and threw in the Dumpster.”

Building official Howell said the city has been patient, slowly trying to move things forward.

He understands that “everything’s a treasure to somebody,” but the city has a responsibility to other citizens.

“I like Kitty,” he said. “(But) the law is the law and we have to uphold the law.”

He suggested low-income housing or an assisted-living facility might be a better fit for Rowell.

Calchina said that’s unlikely. Her mother has until Dec. 22 to start rebuilding and she will continue fighting to bring back her home. Rowell is now looking for help to create a new set of blueprints.

“She’ll do it one board at a time,” Calchina said. “That’s her piece of property. ... She’s still determined to live there.”

Rowell walked the edge of the concrete foundation, rain splashing in the flooded spots. TV barked from inside the motor home. She said her first step was to determine new dimensions for her home.

She has also been making trips to the library to read up on building codes and insurance regulations.

“The code book is about this thick,” she said, holding her fingers a few inches apart.

Those fingers and hands were blackened for weeks as she dug through the remains of her home pulling out unharmed pieces of her artwork and other small surprises.

“All the stuff that I had gotten out that wasn’t damaged,” she said. Gone.

Everything left fits in the RV, her car or a pop-up trailer at the curb. She constantly worries about moving the vehicles every 72 hours so they don’t get towed.

She hopes for something to give her a chance to get started again, she said. Three women and some neighbors offered help early on, but now that she wants to rebuild offers have disappeared.

“I haven’t had any offers of help from anybody — anybody or anything,” she said. “Not one call.”

Rain dripped down the side of the red rabbit statue. Birds fluttered near her car where she would again spend the night. She lit another cigarette.

“I just need some help.”

Jacob Jones, a Daily World writer, can be reached at 532-4000, ext. 129, or by e-mail at jjones@thedailyworld.com.

http://www.thedailyworld.com/articles/2008/05/17/local_news/01news.txt
 

dissimulo

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It is unusual for people to have insurance around here. Most of the houses don't qualify.

I barely qualify and have a $10K deductible.
 

Army Girl

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Why does she have to move her RV every 72 hours? It is her land. The builders have their trailer parked on the land the whole time around here and don't have to move it every 72 hours. Double standard.
 

lisa

Veteran Member
She sleeps in her car and stores her things in the RV? (I know ..it's damaged..but the bed must be better than the car.)

She has a daughter there and she has no where to sleep but in her car?

She should apply for a low income apartment and just move. Her home is gone..time to start over. If I were her daughter I'd be glad the city went in and bulldozed the place if my Mom spent her days digging around in her old burned out shell of a home looking for stuff and memories instead of living the days she has left. I've survived a housefire where I lost 98% of my belongings...I just thanked God nobody died and moved on...I know it's especially hard for the elderly to do that...but it's not good for her to be hanging on to something that no longer exists.
 

Delta

Has No Life - Lives on TB
We have a neighbor who has been living in her barn for well over a year, next to the chared remains of what was once a nice house. I suggest she has been living off the insurance money. She is not old or physically incapacitated, merely unable to self motivate. I know three people who have offered to buy the property. She is one of those who requires someone else to come in and fix her life, she just can't help herself. While I respect the city for not doing anything about it (I hope she has a flush toilet and running water), I do wish something would happen.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
A LOT depends on the circumstances.

A few pictures would help a bunch in evaluating this, but I have some experience with folks and burned out houses, and they get to the hazardous point darn fast around HERE....
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I'm going to play Devil's Advocate here -

First, 71 y.o. woman, probably has pre-dementia issues. Is a smoker. IMO probably set her own house on fire. But that doesn't matter.

- FOUR MONTHS to clean out her house of personal belongings. Has at least one child local to her to assist. IMO, that project should have taken about 4-6 weeks MAX.

- Refuses to tear down the charred remains - Why?

- In a city or town, a burned-out home or building IS a hazard.

- They gave her four months to get the structure removed. That's a long time.

- Why doesn't she have insurance? Despite Diss's comment above regarding homes "qualifying" for insurance, I cannot conceive of ANYONE these days without it. And what does a house need in order to "qualify?"

- IMO, they should've just torn it down and NOT billed her. The billing of a retired person on a fixed income with no assets is a PR nightmare, and paints the gov't as a total money-grubbing, careless bunch of bureaucrats.

- Why does she have to move the RV? If it's ON her property, she shouldn't have to. So it must be on the street. WHY is it on the street?

- If the woman DID have insurance, the debris removal and cleanup costs would have been paid for by them. Did she have insurance and just keep the payout?

Bottom line is that the article leaves out ALL pertinent information.

JMHO
 

Hermit

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Her daughter is letting her sleep in a car?

I guess I shouldn't be so shocked, I've seen plenty of elderly bag ladies in my time.

EDIT: Oops, sorry I missed your post, Lisa!
 

DrJerry

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- Why doesn't she have insurance? Despite Diss's comment above regarding homes "qualifying" for insurance, I cannot conceive of ANYONE these days without it. And what does a house need in order to "qualify?"...
You are obviously not familiar with insurance companies and rural/semi-rural areas. I live on a private road less than 1/4 mile from the main road, but rates are higher and limited to a few companies who will even write a policy due to many "rating factors." Underwriters sit in high rise offices and look down on those who live outside the city with a sort of let-them-eat-cake attitude. This woman probably couldn't get coverage at any price or at least for anything less than her monthly pension checks.
 

ceeblue

Inactive
Back around 2001 Wisconsin passed a law that houses without circuit breakers could not be sold. About this same time insurance companies would not insure them. So it came down from above--Wisconsin houses need circuit breakers.

I bought this place in 2000 and insured it in 2004 after my situation no longer justified self-insurance. A tree fell on it and took out my electricity. The electricians and utility company guys told me the same thing--Wisconsin houses have to have circuit breakers, and I wouldn't have been able to insure my little shotgun shack without updating the electrical system. For me it was a wash. The few hundred bucks it cost to have the roof repaired was about the same as the insurance I hadn't bought.

Many places that are perfectly good little homes with working utilities are considered nearly unhabitable sheds by what I would call, nastily, the Daddy Warbucks patrol.

But, yeah, that poor woman sounds submissive, and her daughter, too. It sounds like a family without someone with a strong hand, a take-charge person. It looks like she could end up being declared incompetent and placed in a home.
 

Troke

Deceased
"City" does not sound semi-rural to me.

This whole thing is well PHOGGED up as several posters have noted. I have a feeling that this lady should be in a supervised environment.
 

ceeblue

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It's hard to tell. I live in a township, but I'm in the city. A friend has a small farm in city limits.

It ain't like the old days where the city limits stopped at the edge of a city.
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Why didn't the city provide a dumpster to the lady?

They could have given that to her and she could have filled it up over time. And had it emptied as needed.

14k sounds steep for a demolition removal. From the sounds of the article there are already other liens on the property. The lady can't sell the property from what it sounds like. And it sounds like she could file a paupers oath to get some of that lifted, however, the rest of the story is not told.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
She sleeps in her car and stores her things in the RV? (I know ..it's damaged..but the bed must be better than the car.)

She has a daughter there and she has no where to sleep but in her car?

.

I was thinking the same thing. What daughter sits by and watchers her mother suffer and sleep in a car when she has a home? And the daughter blames the city for harsh treatment?
 

NC Susan

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JACOB JONES | The Daily World Kitty Rowell stands near the bare foundation of her former home after demolition crews hired by the City of Hoquiam removed the debris from a fire that destroyed her 114-year-old house. The city is charging Rowell more than $14,000 for the clean-up while she lives out of her car and a motor home.
 

NC Susan

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this is washington state.
land of the multimillion dollar 2-3 bedroom homes and hoquim is only about 30 miles west of Tacoma.

that Land should be worth ALOT of money!
 

NC Susan

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http://jonesdaily.files.wordpress.com/2008/05/kittywide.jpg

snip:.......This is 71-year-old Kitty Rowell who now lives out of her car after her home burned down in December.......................I interviewed her at her property this week where she keeps her stuff in a broken RV and sleeps in her car because the city does not allow people to live in RVs within city limits. It was pissing rain through the whole interview..........end snip

May 17, 08 by jonesdaily





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NC Susan

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Last updated December 24, 2007 9:45 p.m. PT





Fire destroys 'worst house in Hoquiam'

Clutter of clothes, chairs, and lamps goes up in smoke

THE ASSOCIATED PRESS
HOQUIAM -- For 25 years, sanitation and fire code enforcement officials tried in vain to get the owner of a 114-year-old house to clean up what they said was the worst eyesore in town.
On Saturday, the problem apparently solved itself when the house, after years at the top of the town's abatement list, burned down.
Clothing, old chairs, spare parts, appliances, wood, tires, lamps and other items in the two-story structure and littering the front, back and side yards helped fuel the flames, fire Capt. Dave Everitt said.
The cause was under investigation, but there was no indication of foul play, Everitt said.
"It's going to be hard to investigate this fire, considering the building caved in on itself," he added.
The house was almost a total loss when firefighters arrived at 1:30 p.m.
By the time they had the flames out an hour later, most of the wood frame collapsed, and only the front face of the house was standing.
Firefighters said they had a difficult time getting through the debris accumulated by owner Kitty Rowell, 70, to gain access to the flames.
The lone person inside the home when the fire started, a man, was evacuated safely.
"If we would have had to go in and extract someone, it would have been nearly impossible," Everitt said.
Nearly every corner was filled with items Rowell had bought, kept or found in trash bins since she moved into the house in 1972.
"I do have a lot of stuff," she told The Daily World in 2001. "Some of it is my grandmother's and mother's, my own and things I have collected through the years that were my kids'," she said.
Denying her numerous possessions were "junk," she maintained that, as a disabled retiree on a fixed income, she lacked the resources to fix up the home.
She said she used to keep extra clothing and sleeping bags to give to transients or people who lost their homes to fire.
Rowell, who could not be reached for comment following the fire Saturday, began getting warnings about the condition of the home in 1982 and was ticketed a number of times for waste accumulation in violation of the fire code.
The Grays Harbor County Department of Public Services declared the building "unsanitary" and "unsafe for human habitation"; several liens were filed against the property; and Rowell ignored several deadlines set by the town's abatement board to clean up or leave, said Lon Howell, a building official.
For years it was known as "the worst house in Hoquiam," Howell said.
The County Assessor's Office had recently valued the house at zero, and Rowell was notified Friday to remove her piles of possessions from the municipal right of way or face stepped up abatement proceedings after Jan. 1, town Administrator Brian Shay said.
"We've been trying for a number of years to get her to clean up the property, and she's pretty much ignored us," Mayor Jack Durney said. "It's unfortunate that she's lost her home before Christmas, but it shows what happens when people have a lot of combustibles lying around."
Rowell was served several times with a search warrant and ordered to clean up the mess outside, but the piles soon grew back, Howell said.
"I like Kitty," he said. "We've always had open communications and discussed all the proceedings.
"We tried to sit down and come up with solutions, but the solutions didn't happen. I do feel really bad for her and I wish her the best."
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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She sounds like a compulsive hoarder. Those people (generally) live in filth. They can NEVER get rid of ANYTHING. It's some kind of mental condition.
 
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