RADIATION ALERT FOR CHINA DISASTER AREA

West Eagle

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China is on precautionary alert against possible radiation leaks from the deadliest earthquake to hit the country in three decades, according to government website seen on Friday.

The disaster area is home to China's chief nuclear weapons research lab in Mianyang, as well as several secretive atomic sites, but no nuclear power stations.

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SOURCE / MORE AT:
http://uk.news.yahoo.com/rtrs/20080516/tpl-uk-quake-nuclear-c3c492c.html


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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
The U2s will let us know fairly soon if there is a leakage issue....

Remember that the shocks were NOT under or VERY near the plants involved...
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
For those with dial-up..............


China on alert against quake radiation leaks


By Benjamin Kang Lim Reuters - Friday, May 16 01:20 pmBEIJING (Reuters) - China is on precautionary alert against possible radiation leaks from the deadliest earthquake to hit the country in three decades, according to government website seen on Friday.


The disaster area is home to China's chief nuclear weapons research lab in Mianyang, as well as several secretive atomic sites, but no nuclear power stations.

Minister of Environmental Protection Zhou Shengxian convened an emergency meeting late on Monday, hours after the 7.9 magnitude tremor rocked the southwestern province of Sichuan, and activated the lowest tier of a four-stage system of ranking radiation leaks, the ministry said on its website (www.zhb.gov.cn).

President Hu Jintao flew to Mianyang on Friday, four days after the quake, which is thought to have killed more than 50,000 people, state television and the official Xinhua news agency reported, in an indication the risk was low.

Xinhua didn't say if Hu had inquired about nuclear facilities there.

But nuclear scientists were evacuated from the area as a precaution, a source with knowledge of the evacuation said.

"Everyone was evacuated. No one was left," the source, who requested anonymity, told Reuters.

"Mianyang was Hu Jintao's first stop (in Sichuan), evidence of the importance he attaches to the nuclear weapons base."

The Chinese Academy of Engineering Physics, also known as the Southwest Institute, in Mianyang is the primary design laboratory for Chinese nuclear weapons, according to www.globalsecurity.org.

A Western expert with knowledge of the Mianyang lab had said it was unlikely it was at serious risk.

A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman said this week he had not heard of damage to nuclear facilities in the disaster area when asked at a regular news briefing.

The China Nuclear Engineering and Construction Corp said six employees on construction sites were killed in the quake. It said on its website (www.cnecc.com) that several facilities in Sichuan were damaged, but did not mention any radiation leaks.
 

BigFootsCousin

Molon Labe!
US monitoring China's nuclear sites after quake

Link to Story: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20080516/D90N175G0.html

May 16, 7:03 PM (ET)

By LILY HINDY and ANGELA CHARLTON

American experts are monitoring nuclear facilities in China's earthquake zone, officials said Friday, after France's nuclear watchdog reported that some had suffered minor damage.

The French Institute for Radiological Protection and Nuclear Safety said Chinese authorities "reacted well" to the quake and immediately shut down nuclear sites for inspection.

Thierry Charles, the group's director of plant safety, said China's nuclear safety agency, NNSA, had reported no leaks of radioactivity since the quake.

He said the Chinese reported "light damage" to older nuclear facilities that were being dismantled before the quake, noting that seismic construction codes were less strict when those sites were built. China did not specify which facilities had damage, he said.

China has a research reactor, two nuclear fuel production sites and two atomic weapons sites in Sichuan province, where the magnitude-7.9 quake struck Monday, the French agency said. All were between 40 and 90 miles from the epicenter.

French authorities do not yet have a full picture of any possible damage at the nuclear weapons sites, where information is more closely guarded, Charles said.

"At this stage, I don't think there were any leaks, because they would have reported them by now. The worst to worry about now is degradation of buildings, cracks, this kind of thing," he said.

U.S. officials are monitoring China's nuclear facilities in the quake zone, State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said. He said he had no information about any damage.

Wang Baodong, spokesman for the Chinese Embassy in Washington, said he had no information about the state of the atomic sites. But he told reporters the Chinese government was "preparing for every consequence" as it worked to rescue survivors and repair damage.

Nuclear experts said there several possibilities if any significant damage occurred at the plants, at least one of which is alongside a river. A radioactive leak could cause environmental harm, while internal damage could set back China's nuclear modernization, they said.

Mianyang, an industrial city of 700,000 people that is the headquarters of China's nuclear weapons design industry, was on the edge of the disaster area. The site has been likened to the U.S. nuclear facility at Los Alamos, N.M.

The plutonium production reactor at Guangyuan, China's largest, is also in the quake zone.

"Damage to these plants could potentially be a serious issue for the Chinese government," said Hans Kristensen, a nuclear arms expert at the Federation of American Scientists.

He said the reactor at Guangyuan is "at the center of China's fissile material production.

"If there is damage to (the reactor), it would disrupt China's warhead maintenance capabilities," Kristensen said. "That could have impacts for several years."

Matthew Bunn, a senior researcher at Harvard University's Project on Managing the Atom, said the risk of radioactive leaks depended mostly on how the facilities were designed, details of which are known only by the Chinese government.

"Only in the reactor's case would there likely be any significant danger of some kind of radioactive release that would affect a large area. And how big that danger is depends enormously on specifics of the reactor's seismic design that are not well known outside the Chinese nuclear weapons program," Bunn said.

Jeffrey Lewis, director of the Nuclear Strategy and Nonproliferation Initiative at the New America Foundation who visited Mianyang last summer, said the buildings were designed to withstand earthquakes.

"I would be surprised if there were any human impact," said Lewis, referring to radioactive leaks. "If anything, there is a possibility for structural damage."

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Associated Press writer Foster Klug in Washington contributed to this report.

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Hmmm....

BFC
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
Dear God! I hadn't thought about something like that and the wind drift. China would never admit to that kind of disaster! Remember Chernobyl? Russia wouldn't admit to that either till it couldn't be kept a secret anymore.

Even in this country no one knew how close we had come to a horrific disaster with Three mile island.

Please keep us up to date on those nuke alarms. :siren:
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Honest, guys. the Airforce guys who do this for a living will have all the data they need on a half-daily basis from our surveilance and recon planes....

WE WILL KNOW.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
This might be of interest from my page...

Trans-Pacific Fallout
Fallout here from nuke use in Pakistan, India,
Mid-East, Korea, Taiwan, China, Russia, etc.

http://www.ki4u.com/transpacific.htm

The Nuclear War Survival Skills book (by Oak Ridge National Laboratory, 1979, a Facility of the U.S. Department of Energy, Updated and Expanded 1987 Edition) details the above and shows where a single, and very small, above ground Chinese nuclear test explosion ("a few hundred kilotons") on December 28, 1966 resulted in the fallout cloud covering most of the United States.

Cresson H. Kearny, the author of the above book, also states about this now declassifed incident:

"It produced fallout that by January 1, 1967 resulted in the fallout cloud covering most of the United States. This one Chinese explosion produced about 15 million curies of iodine- 131 - roughly the same amount as the total release of iodine- 131 into the atmosphere from the Chernobyl nuclear power plant disaster."

"Fallout from the approximately 300 kiloton Chinese test explosion shown in Fig. 1 caused milk from cows that fed on pastures near Oak Ridge, Tennessee and elsewhere to be contaminated with radioiodine, although not with enough to be hazardous to health."

"However, this milk contamination (up to 900 picocuries of radioactive iodine per liter) and the measured dose rates from the gamma rays emitted from fallout particles deposited in different parts of the United States indicate that trans-Pacific fallout from even an overseas nuclear war in which "only" two or three hundred megatons would be exploded could result in tens of thousands of unprepared Americans suffering thyroid injury."

"Perhaps the first nuclear war casualties in the United States will be caused by fallout from an overseas nuclear war in which our country is not a belligerent. As the number of nations with nuclear weapons increases - especially in the Middle East - this generally unrecognized danger to Americans will worsen."

"Trans-Pacific war fallout, carried to an America at peace by the prevailing west-to-east winds that blow around the world, could be several hundred times more dangerous to Americans than fallout from the worst possible overseas nuclear power reactor accident, and many times more dangerous than fallout from a very improbable U.S. nuclear power reactor accident as lethal as the disastrous Chernobyl accident was to Russians."

The following Declassified Fallout Map of the USA from this Chinese nuke fallout and a free on-line copy of the complete 280 page Nuclear War Survival Skills book are at the FAQ. (This book also covers and details preparations for much more than just the threat of radioiodine fallout, too.)

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night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
BFC as you WELL know, and I am sure Shane would be quick to tell ya, KI03 is pertty much useless unless there is Radioactive Iodine in the fallout...
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Barring a major Chinese nuclear disaster of epic proportions, I'd have to guess that you'd probably get a higher radiation dosage over the course of a day at the beach without sunblock (and a hat, always a hat!). Even fallout from Chernobyl (now THAT was a nuclear disaster of epic proportions) didn't start killing people in Scandanavia (even if Chernobyl WAS initially discovered in the West because workers at a Scandanavian nuclear power plant set off the radiation detectors going IN to work). As I recall, the Scandanavians dumped all their milk for awhile, monitored people at highest risk, and probably made lifetime careers for a few scientists and bureaucrats as they do follow-up study after follow-up study, but other than that I don't recall reading about massive amounts of radiation illnesses outside a few hundred miles of Chernobyl.
 

ocd

Inactive
What? Where you been?!

Ain't you got any KI03?!!!

:whistle:

(what kind of 'prepper' are you?) :lkick:

BFC

LOL

I mean if its a Chernobyl really the only thing we can do as preppers is take KI03.
maybe try to put distance between us and the accident I hate radiation and bio stuff rest of the dangers I can handle :shkr: :eek:
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
:hmm:

I have 4-5 different Rad meters.....I think that I'll fire up a 'sensitive' one.

BFC

Which meter is your most "sensitive" one? I've got a Ludlum 12 and an Aware RM-80. But I'm not sure either will show much or it may take a long time as most of this kind of stuff is swept up and comes across the ocean in high altitude wind currents. Although it has to settle out sometime!
 

Turnpike Jim

Inactive
The U2s will let us know fairly soon if there is a leakage issue....

Are you saying that we have aircraft over the effected area? Kind of doubt that. Satellite's for sure. But spy planes would be shot down.

Jim
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Are you saying that we have aircraft over the effected area? Kind of doubt that. Satellite's for sure. But spy planes would be shot down.

Jim

We have planes with air filters that fly near areas of interest. They don't have to fly over the area. However as we've seen even flying nearby can get you forced down.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Hmmm, here's another thought.......

Just suppose that someone with HARRP technology set off the quake in that area to disable the main ability of China to make and take care of their nuclear weapons? Hmmmm?

(just thinking outside the box a little bit)

Just popped into my head when I read the second article.....
 
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