6 gas-saving myths

Hermit

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Sure you want to save gas, but there's a lot of bad advice on how to do it. Some of it makes no difference, and some of it can wind up costing you.

By Peter Valdes-Dapena, CNNMoney.com staff writer
Last Updated: May 15, 2008: 3:59 PM EDT
NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- With gasoline prices hitting record levels, it seems everyone has a tip on how to save fuel. Much of the advice is well-intentioned, but in the end, much of it won't lower your gas bill.
Here's a look at a few misconceptions:
#1. Fill your tank in the morning
You may have heard that it's best to fill your gas tank in the early morning while the fuel is cold. The theory goes that fluids are more dense at lower temperatures, so a gallon of cold gas actually has more gas molecules than a gallon of warmer gas.
But the temperature of the gasoline as it comes out of the nozzle varies little during the course of the day, according to Consumer Reports, so there's little, if any, benefit, to getting up early to pump gas.
#2. Change your air filter
Maintaining your car is important, but a clean air filter isn't going to save you any gas. Modern engines have computer sensors that automatically adjust the fuel-air mixture as an increasingly clogged air filter chokes off the engine's air supply.
While engine power will decrease slightly as the air filter becomes clogged, a lack of performance or an increase in fuel consumption will be negligible, Consumer Reports says.
#3. Use premium fuel
With prices already over $4.00 a gallon, premium gasoline is a hard sell these days. But a lot of drivers think because their owners' manual recommends premium, they'll get better fuel economy with it. Really, they may be paying more money for nothing.
Newer cars for which premium is "recommended" - but not "required" - won't suffer with regular fuel. Modern engine technology comes to the rescue again. When sensors detect regular instead of premium fuel, the system automatically adjusts spark plug timing. The result is a slight reduction in peak horsepower - really, you'll never notice - but little or no reduction in fuel economy.
Always check your owner's manual before putting anything into your car. And if your car runs badly on regular, by all means, go back to the pricey stuff. (See editor's note at bottom)
#4. Pump up your tires
Proper tire inflation is important for a number of reasons. Under-inflated tires are bad for handling and can even cause a crash. Improper tire inflation also causes tires to wear out faster and to heat up more, which could trigger a dangerous high-speed blow-out.
According to on-the-road driving tests by both Consumer Reports and auto information site Edmunds.com, underinflated tires reduce fuel economy, so proper inflation is key.
But you should never over-inflate your tires. They'll get you slightly better fuel economy because there will be less tread touching the road, reducing friction. But that means less grip for braking and turning. The added risk of a crash isn't worth the extra mile a gallon you might gain.
#5. To A/C or not A/C
There's no question air-conditioning makes extra work for the engine, increasing fuel use. But car air conditioners are much more efficient today than they used to be. In around-town driving, using the A/C will drop fuel economy by about a mile a gallon.
Meanwhile, driving at higher speeds with the windows down greatly increases aerodynamic drag. As speed increases, drag becomes more of an issue, making A/C use the more efficient choice at high speeds.
At most speeds and in most vehicles, A/C use drains slightly more fuel than driving with the windows down, contends David Champion, head of auto testing for Consumer Reports. "My final take on is that it's very close," says Phil Reed, consumer advice editor for Edmunds.com. "It's hard to measure the difference and every vehicle is different."
The best choice - if temperature and humidity allow - is to keep the windows rolled up and to turn the A/C compressor off. You can keep the fans running to blow in air from the outside, but your car will be as aerodynamic as possible while still letting you breathe. You will save gas, but the fuel economy improvement will be slight.
#6. Bolt-ons and pour-ins
Before you buy a device that's supposed to make your car more fuel-efficient or pour in an allegedly gas-saving additive, ask yourself this: Don't you think oil and car companies aren't doing everything they can to beat their competitors?
If BP could add something to its gasoline that made cars go farther on a gallon, cars would be lining up at the company's pumps. Sure, people would burn their fuel-saving BP gas more slowly, but then they'd drive right past rivals' gas stations to come back to BP for more. BP stations could even charge more for their gas and still sell tons of the stuff.
So if there really was an additive that made gas burn up more slowly, it wouldn't be sold over the Internet one bottle at a time.
Likewise, car companies are already spending big bucks to increase fuel mileage. If General Motors could make its cars go significantly farther on a gallon simply by putting a device into the fuel line, don't think for a second it wouldn't be doing that. GM's car sales would go through the roof.
"There are a number of these gas-saving devices that are generally useless," says Champion.
But drivers who try them will swear they work. In reality, it's probably an automotive placebo effect, says Reed. Buy one of these devices or additives, and you're like to pay extreme attention to your fuel economy and how you drive.
Of course it can't hurt to keep a close eye on your driving habits -- and what kind of car you drive. In the end, that can make the most difference in saving gas.
-Editors note: This story was revised from an earlier version to clarify that the advice to use regular gas instead of premium may not apply to all cars.
First Published: May 13, 2008: 11:38 AM EDT
 

Monty

Veteran Member
#4. Pump up your tires
Proper tire inflation is important for a number of reasons. Under-inflated tires are bad for handling and can even cause a crash. Improper tire inflation also causes tires to wear out faster and to heat up more, which could trigger a dangerous high-speed blow-out.
According to on-the-road driving tests by both Consumer Reports and auto information site Edmunds.com, underinflated tires reduce fuel economy, so proper inflation is key.
But you should never over-inflate your tires. They'll get you slightly better fuel economy because there will be less tread touching the road, reducing friction. But that means less grip for braking and turning. The added risk of a crash isn't worth the extra mile a gallon you might gain.

This week I ran my tires up from the car manufactures 32lbs to 36lbs to see what a difference it makes. Rating on the tire is 44lbs. I've always thought that these tires "gripped" just a little too much, more than I have noticed for any other car. So far haven't noticed much difference in handling. Ran it a little fast in the rain last night but control seemed overall the same, no sliding at all.

Monty
 

Desertrat

Inactive
Two ways to determine the optimum pressure for handling/braking:

1. Pressure change with rising temperature: Check your tires when they're cold. Then, after driving a few miles, check again. If the pressure rise is about eight percent, you're good.

2. "Footprint": Take some chalk, and make a wide mark across the tread. Drive a ways. Check the chalk mark. If it's worn more in the middle, the pressure is too high. If worn more at the edges, the pressure is too low.

'Rat
 

cmm

Veteran Member
Interesting tips. Thanks.

What's the optimum gas-mileage speed? Idrive a Honda Civic on the highway every day? At what speed would I be minimising my gas usage?
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
Interesting tips. Thanks.

What's the optimum gas-mileage speed? Idrive a Honda Civic on the highway every day? At what speed would I be minimising my gas usage?

In the 70's they said 55 mph was optimum for best gas mileage. I suppose it would be the same now. ;)

What is your mileage? I am looking for a new car and mileage is my prime concern.

Thanks.
 

BaywaterRoss

Inactive
Interesting tips. Thanks.

What's the optimum gas-mileage speed? Idrive a Honda Civic on the highway every day? At what speed would I be minimising my gas usage?

Usually that's the highest gear at the lowest RPM to stay in that gear.

-Ross
 

Dean Miller

Archaic Member
Usually that's the highest gear at the lowest RPM to stay in that gear.

-Ross

You got that right!!

We have 2, 2001 Buick LeSabre's (a big car with a 3.8L V-6). At a speed of 46 MPH (high gear kicks in at 44 MPH and drops out at 40 MPH), the car gets 42 miles per gallon on a level road with no wind. At 56 MPH, the mileage is 36 MPG. At 74 MPH, it's down to 30 MPG.

Our normal country/city driving mix gives me 28 MPG in the summer (with A/C) and 25 MPG in the winter. My DW gets 25 and 22. My habit is to coast up to stop signs/lights and stay well back from vehicles in front of me -- she doesn't. :)
 

JoanD777

Senior Member
We drove a 4 cylinder Mazda Miata from Houston to Dallas averaging about 70 MPH or a little more (speed limits mostly 75). We got 30 miles to the gallon. In town on the freeways which have a maximum of 60 MPH when traffic is light enough to do limit the Mazda gets about 27-28 MPG. The old "55 is best for economy" is a myth!
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
"#6. Bolt-ons and pour-ins
Before you buy a device that's supposed to make your car more fuel-efficient or pour in an allegedly gas-saving additive, ask yourself this: Don't you think oil and car companies aren't doing everything they can to beat their competitors?
If BP could add something to its gasoline that made cars go farther on a gallon, cars would be lining up at the company's pumps
. Sure, people would burn their fuel-saving BP gas more slowly, but then they'd drive right past rivals' gas stations to come back to BP for more. BP stations could even charge more for their gas and still sell tons of the stuff."

Hilarious. The oil companies move in lock step. There is no competition between them. They work together to divvy up given market areas to minimize cost of delivery. I've seen this frequently for at least 15 years. The oil companies share distribution centers and add the additive packages that are unique to the various brands to the trucks that deliver the gas. The majors bought out the little refineries some years ago and were able to eliminate competition in the process.

There are people on TB that are increasing gas mileage by "adding on and pouring in".

Articles like this lead people to believe that improvements in gas mileage aren't available and since they are the "experts", some people believe it and don't try to find ways to improve fuel economy. Some will read this article and be convinced that they will never have to change their air filter. Good grief.

What they barely mention is that driving technique has the greatest effect on gas mileage. Driving for maximum fuel economy will also save money and wear and tear on your car's engine, brakes, tires and suspension.
 

Desertrat

Inactive
Generally, the optimum rpm for best economy is at the peak torque.

With a "long-legged" overdrive, this might not be true due to increased wind resistance at higher speeds. But, overall, it's pretty close.
 

BaywaterRoss

Inactive
My car has an automatic transmission. How does that tie in to your comment?

Whether shifted automatically or manually, it still holds true.

The engine is doing the least amount of work and in the highest gear (like overdrive) will go the farthest distance for that work.

-Ross
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
Whether shifted automatically or manually, it still holds true.

The engine is doing the least amount of work and in the highest gear (like overdrive) will go the farthest distance for that work.

-Ross
Ok, I have been driving for 40 years :shkr: and don't have a clue what high gear is on a manual. I know P - N - D - R. :whistle: I realize there are others letters there, oh, I guess they are #'s. Whatever, 3 etc.

Which is the high gear?
 

Desertrat

Inactive
Back in the days of "Slip'n'slide with Powerglide", there was the good old P-R-N-D-L lever, the Prundle Lever. :D

D allows the auto-tranny to automatically shift on up to top gear. The numbers on today's newer slushboxes simply mean that top or 4th or 3rd or whatever is locked out, and you don't get an automatic upshift.

My father was the Bossman at the Texas Highway Department's laboratory. They tested various engine additives, whether lubricants or fuel additives. His reference to this after-market goodie was to label them "mouse milk". All they did was relieve folks of money.

Granted, if your engine is about gone, STP will add some time before tearing it down for an overhaul--or some time to sell the thing when you hear that little voice from under the hood crying, "Sell me! Sell me!"

Rislone will commonly free up sticky hydraulic lifters, but the use of a quality dispersant oil normally doesn't engender that condition anyway.

The rest of it? Mouse milk.

'Rat
 

Windy Ridge

Veteran Member
BaywaterRoss is right about optimum speed. If you have an automatic just pay attention for the change in feel as it shifts into high. Drive a few miles per hour faster than this speed to prevent it from shifting down. Acetone works fine as an additive. Use 3/4 to 1 oz. per 5 gallons. It differs a little depending on vehicle and type of gas used. It seems to work in reverse if you use gas with quite a bit of ethanol in it. This raises my mileage 10%.

Windy Ridge
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
One thing I know is that the hyper-milers are really starting to piss me off. I don't care if they ARE saving a teaspoon of gas by coasting the last half-mile into the highway exit, it pisses me off. When they coast everywhere they give me the choice of doing the same or accelerating hard around them, which in the overall scheme of things probably comes out as a wash anyway environment-wise. Their smug arrogance that they can do whatever they want and screw the rest of us because they are guardians of the environment (or some such crap) is not making them popular on the road.
 

Desperado

Membership Revoked
One thing I know is that the hyper-milers are really starting to piss me off. I don't care if they ARE saving a teaspoon of gas by coasting the last half-mile into the highway exit, it pisses me off. When they coast everywhere they give me the choice of doing the same or accelerating hard around them, which in the overall scheme of things probably comes out as a wash anyway environment-wise. Their smug arrogance that they can do whatever they want and screw the rest of us because they are guardians of the environment (or some such crap) is not making them popular on the road.

+1 :applaud:
Agreed the are one of the most annoying things on the road today.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
+1 :applaud:
Agreed the are one of the most annoying things on the road today.

Ditto.

Drives me nuts when the 55er "save an ounce of fuel for mother earth" people block up a half mile of traffic on a 70 stretch. How much more fuel is being spent by 50 cars gunning around them on the straights?? My guess is a lot more than they would be if they were all driving at an even pach with the flow of traffic.

Plus every pass increases the danger of collision.

It's counter intuitive.
 

LKB

Inactive
My car has an automatic transmission. How does that tie in to your comment?


Understand that if your transmission has an OD you should not use it at a low speed. You will put undue strain on the transmission clutch packs. Also... The planetary gears are working 100% of the time in OD where as 3rd runs 1:1 in most transmissions and the planetary train is just freewheeling.. IF you save anything on gas (And thats a big IF) you will need it later for a transmission overhaul. Also most engine are not as efficient at very low RPM. Ask anyone who has a TH700R4 about the 3-4 clutch pack.

:bwl:
 

blackjeep

The end times are here.
One thing I know is that the hyper-milers are really starting to piss me off. I don't care if they ARE saving a teaspoon of gas by coasting the last half-mile into the highway exit, it pisses me off. When they coast everywhere they give me the choice of doing the same or accelerating hard around them, which in the overall scheme of things probably comes out as a wash anyway environment-wise. Their smug arrogance that they can do whatever they want and screw the rest of us because they are guardians of the environment (or some such crap) is not making them popular on the road.

Patience young grasshopper, patience...... :lkick:
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Wrong for me as well ... I'll be 48 in a couple of weeks.

I have quite a lot of patience, just not for people coasting down to 35 mph (or even less) on an Interstate as they aim for the same exit I am. I will NEVER understand why anyone would slow down that much on an Interstate when the exit lane itself is a quarter mile long. There's saving gas, and then there's creating a serious traffic hazard. No amount of self righteousness is worth putting other vehicles at risk when people are throwing multi-ton weapons of mass destruction around at 60 mph (or more).
 

Morning Star

Groovy Hoosier
IIRC, from my driver's ed days...there is a minimum speed on highways. Isn't it 45mph? Maybe that's just an Indiana thing.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Morning Star - You also generally can't stop on an Interstate acceleration ramp, eat/drink while you drive, or drive with any lights out, but those things happen. What's your point with respect to gas saving myths?

The point I've been trying to make is that hyper-milers are a royal pain in the ass and that any gas they save is probably lost in the bigger picture by the vehicles around them maneuvering faster than normal to cope with the hyper-miler. Which is to say, hyper-miling as a means to reducing US gas consumption (and protecting the environment) is probably a myth as well.
 

ontheright

TROPIC LIGHTNING GO 25th
The Marathon stations in this area are adding STP fuel additives to thieir fuel and advertising it on TV. Now the question is what % of additive are they using?
 
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