New Osama Video on the way

annieosage

Veteran Member
ALERT: A New Message From Osama bin Laden Is on the Way

An radical jihadist Web site has announced that a new message from al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden is forthcoming.

A banner announcing the message says he will address the 60th anniversary of Israel. His message is titled, "The reasons for the struggle in the remembrance of the 60th anniversary of the rising of the occupier nation of Israel."

Developing...

http://blogs.abcnews.com/theblotter/2008/05/alert-a-new-mes.html

Wonder what it will be THIS time :rolleyes:
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
We should have a poll:

Who here is afraid of Osama bin Laden?
OR
Osama is irrelevant - can we stop this stupid war, now?
 

RCSAR

Veteran Member
Osama is not important.

We are in Iraq and the Stan to secure oil and forward bases for the war escalation.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
Osama is not important.

We are in Iraq and the Stan to secure oil and forward bases for the war escalation.

Oh, that's right. I forgot - "Defending 'freedom' and 'american interests' and preparing for our economic suicide". :rolleyes:

It will sure be good having all that secured oil as we descend into third world status.
 

bdande

Contributing Member
We should have a poll:

Who here is afraid of Osama bin Laden?
OR
Osama is irrelevant - can we stop this stupid war, now?

Osama is irrelevant is my vote. It's been 7 years since 9/11...if Osama was able to attack it would have happened already.
 

SouthernGal

"Don't retreat...reload"
Just amazing how this follows on the heels of "Dear Leader"'s recent announcement that his greatest fear is another terrorist attack on the COTUS.

Quick! Bring Osama out of the closet and dust him off!
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Once in a while I say something of great importance (not a lot, I know) but this is one of those times.

Please (really, PLEASE) do not dismiss the relevance of an OBL" message."

It makes no difference if he is dead or alive, there is enormous significance in an OBL "message" to jihadists- acting alone or in concert with others.

Please dust off your Situational Awareness 101 and put it into play, just in case, and live your lives a normally as possible--prepared but not in fear.

Very, very sincerely,

Maureen :dstrs:
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And THAT, ladies and gentlemen is about as close as that lady is, will, or has EVER gotten to referencing what she knows.

I THINK I might listen to her.

THERE is someone who takes her Oath VERY seriously. ALL the way.

I say this only because the folk I know out n about are NOT looking rested these days. And the street level folk are just that little bit tighter than they should be.

DO keep yourself in HIGH Yellow bordering on Orange for a while.....



NOW as to the comment I was GOING to make..............


*YAWN* I grow weary. Bring it.

THough ANYONE who has somehow missed the time frames between Khobar, WTC '93, and WTC 01 simply can't wrap their mind around the FACT that 7-8 years is about the norm for planning and execution for AQ.....
 

kozanne

Inactive
Once in a while I say something of great importance (not a lot, I know) but this is one of those times.

Please (really, PLEASE) do not dismiss the relevance of an OBL" message."

It makes no difference if he is dead or alive, there is enormous significance in an OBL "message" to jihadists- acting alone or in concert with others.

Please dust off your Situational Awareness 101 and put it into play, just in case, and live your lives a normally as possible--prepared but not in fear.

Very, very sincerely,

Maureen :dstrs:


plus one million, Maureen. Never underestimate the significance of these events, just for the reasons you stated.
 

Dornroeschen

Inactive
Web site: Bin Laden has Israel message
Al-Qaida has been stepping up pace of Internet communications
The Associated Press
updated 6:06 p.m. CT, Thurs., May. 15, 2008

NEW YORK - Terrorist leader Osama bin Laden will release a new Internet message dealing with Israel and the Palestinians, a terrorism monitoring group said Thursday.

The announcement of the impending comments by the head of al-Qaida was posted on Web sites often used by terrorism groups, the SITE Intelligence Group said.

Bin Laden's statement will be titled, "The Causes of Conflict on the 60th Anniversary of the Establishment of the State of Israeli Occupation" and will be addressed to the "Western peoples," SITE said.

Al-Qaida messages usually follow within 72 hours of such announcements.

The terrorism network has dramatically increased the pace of its messages since last year.

Copyright 2008 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

URL: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/24656757/
 

annieosage

Veteran Member
Thanks Maureen, I'm so busy lately that I would have blown this off.

Ditto- thanks Maureen. Obviously i was just blowing it off. I will make sure to sharpen my "awareness".

My company is hosting a cocktail party tomorrow night at one of the hotels on the strip. I only go down there once a year- for this party. I hate the traffic, the people, and the noise. Now I will be even more aware of what's going on around me.
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Ditto- thanks Maureen. Obviously i was just blowing it off. I will make sure to sharpen my "awareness".

My company is hosting a cocktail party tomorrow night at one of the hotels on the strip. I only go down there once a year- for this party. I hate the traffic, the people, and the noise. Now I will be even more aware of what's going on around me.

The best advice I can give is to be AWARE OF OUR SURROUNDINGS and not succumb to fear or paranoia. You cannot react appropriately and effectively if you are not in control of your reactions.

That is almost as dangerous to us as is being cavalier and taking all this as a ploy, manipulation, or a "boogey man" scenario.

We need to be cautious, not terrorised, then we can better respond to whatever comes up. We need to maintain calm resolve.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

Desperado

Membership Revoked
The best advice I can give is to be AWARE OF OUR SURROUNDINGS and not succumb to fear or paranoia. You cannot react appropriately and effectively if you are not in control of your reactions.:

Isn't that the way you should be normally? Doesn't matter where you live or what the threat, Good way to go about your normal routine.

Now as far as OBL message...... I think OBL been dead for a few years now so you would think the neo cons would let it rest but they are still pushing for their war with Iran and will do whatever it takes.
 

DaveT

Membership Revoked
NOW as to the comment I was GOING to make..............


*YAWN* I grow weary. Bring it.

Uh... didn't Bush say that in regards to Iraq? Look happened... careful what you wish for cause you just may get it.

Thanks Maureen for keeping us keen!
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Isn't that the way you should be normally?

Ayup. That's exactly how it should be 24/7. We should constantly be aware of circs around us but too many people are thinking "someone else will do it" and--even worse--far too many think they are ten feet tall and bulletproof.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

Warthog

Tusk Up
Osama Bin Boogieman. Rumsfield seems to think we need another attack to bring us in line.




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Rumsfeld On Tape: Terror Attack Could Restore Neo-Con Agenda
Former Defense Secretary's conversation with military analysts on political problems - "The Correction For That...Is An Attack"
Paul Joseph Watson
Prison Planet
Friday, May 16, 2008
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Shocking excerpts of confidential recordings recently released under the Freedom of Information Act feature former Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld talking with top military analysts about how a flagging Neo-Con political agenda could be successfully restored with the aid of another terrorist attack on America.

The tape also includes a conversation where Rumsfeld and the military analysts agree on the possible necessity of installing a brutal dictator in Iraq to oversee U.S. interests.

The tapes were released as part of the investigation into the Pentagon's "message force multipliers" program in which top military analysts were hired to propagandize for the Iraq war in the corporate media.

(Article continues below)



In attendance at the valedictory luncheon Rumsfeld hosted on December 12, 2006 were David L. Grange, Donald W. Sheppard, James Marks, Rick Francona, Wayne Downing, and Robert H. Scales, Jr. among others.

The most extraordinary exchange takes place when Lt. Gen. Michael DeLong bemoans shrinking political support for Neo-Con war plans on Capitol Hill and suggests that sympathy for the Bush administration's agenda will only be achieved after a new terror attack.

Rumsfeld agrees that the psychological impact of 9/11 is wearing off and the "behavior pattern" of citizens in both the U.S. and Europe suggests that they are unconcerned about the threat of terror.

DELONG: Politically, what are the challenges because you're not going to have a lot of sympathetic ears up there until it [a terror attack] happens.

RUMSFELD: That's what I was just going to say. This President's pretty much a victim of success. We haven't had an attack in five years. The perception of the threat is so low in this society that it's not surprising that the behavior pattern reflects a low threat assessment. The same thing's in Europe, there's a low threat perception. The correction for that, I suppose, is an attack. And when that happens, then everyone gets energized for another [inaudible] and it's a shame we don't have the maturity to recognize the seriousness of the threats...the lethality, the carnage, that can be imposed on our society is so real and so present and so serious that you'd think we'd be able to understand it, but as a society, the longer you get away from 9/11, the less...the less...

Click here for the audio clip.

In another exchange, after assuring that comments are "off the record," Rumsfeld and one of the military analysts agree that Iraq could use a "Syngman Rhee" to take control of Iraq. Syngman Rhee was the ruthless authoritarian dictator of South Korea from after World War II through the Korean War to 1960. If the invasion of Iraq was about liberating the Iraqis from a tyrant in the form of Saddam Hussein why is Rumsfeld talking about installing an even more brutal dictator?

Click here for the audio clip. Newsvine has the recording in full.

Rumsfeld's admission that the correction for dwindling support of the Neo-Con imperial crusade is another terror attack is perhaps the most startling and blatant indication that 9/11 was an inside job.



How much more evidence do we need to confirm that the Neo-Con hierarchy in control of the U.S. government are instigating and exploiting terror in the pursuit of their own domestic and geopolitical agenda?

As Jerry Mazza writes today, "In the seven years since the day, exhaustive and still growing evidence proves beyond any reasonable doubt that the US government, spearheaded by the Bush administration, planned, orchestrated and executed the 9/11 false flag operation. As openly advocated by wide swaths of elites, from the Project for the New American Century (PNAC), of which Rumsfeld has been a member, to the likes of Zbigniew Brzezinski (in his The Grand Chessboard), only an attack “on the order of Pearl Harbor” would, in Brzezinski’s words, cause the American people to support an “imperial mobilization,” and a world war."

Placing the new evidence against previously revealed 9/11-related acts on the part of Rumsfeld, his guilt is overt and obvious. Recall that it was Rumsfeld who enthusiastically penned the "Go Massive" memo, gleefully declaring the Bush administration finally had the green light to kill: “Not only UBL (Usama bin Laden). Go massive. Sweep it all up. Things related and not.”

The longing for a new terror attack to corral the masses back behind the Neo-Con agenda is a shared fetish amongst Neo-Cons, policy wonks and academics alike.

In August last year Philadelphia Daily News columnist Stu Bykofsky openly called for "another 9/11" that "would help America" restore a "community of outrage and national resolve".

Lt.-Col. Doug Delaney, chair of the war studies program at the Royal Military College in Kingston, Ontario, told the Toronto Star last July that "The key to bolstering Western resolve is another terrorist attack like 9/11 or the London transit bombings of two years ago."

The same sentiment was also explicitly expressed in a 2005 GOP memo, which yearned for new attacks that would "validate" the President's war on terror and "restore his image as a leader of the American people."

Also in July 2007, former Republican Senator Rick Santorum suggested that a series of "unfortunate events," namely terrorist attacks, will occur within the next year and change American citizen's perception of the war.

And the month before that, the new chairman of the Arkansas Republican Party Dennis Milligan said that there needed to be more attacks on American soil for President Bush to regain popular approval.

Comments posted on the left-wing Huffington Post website in response to the Rumsfeld tape indicate that even some of the most hardcore conspiracy debunkers have had their beliefs shaken to the core by the former Defense Secretary's admission.

"I have been a very staunch opponent of conspiracy theories," writes one, "but to hear the man most responsible for stopping foreign threats to American lives musing that a successful attack on the USA is somehow a "cure" for us... it almost makes me want to make a tinfoil hat with the nuts I made fun of."

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MaureenO

Another Infidel
Osama Bin Boogieman. Rumsfield seems to think we need another attack to bring us in line.

This is not a game or a ruse. Each new AQ or any other jihad communication released contains other pieces of the puzzle the jihadis need to assemble in order to complete their "puzzle."

They are a patient lot, them. And as I have said reteatedly, live cautiously but without fear. Fear throws you off your mark.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

Dornroeschen

Inactive
May 16, 2008
Bin Laden Has A New Tape Out And He ... Zzzzzzz
By James Gordon Meek

Is there any reason to get excited about a new Osama Bin Laden tape anymore? The Al Qaeda kingpin issued an audio speech to jihadi Internet forums today and the Western world responded with a collective yawn. News organizations have been reporting it today - but not with the breathless tone and play once given to the most wanted terrorist in the world.

In his third audio speech released this year, the Saudi fugitive ridiculed Israel's 60th anniversary. Al Qaeda's founder claimed this year's celebration by Western leaders such as President Bush of the Jewish State's diamond jubilee prove that "Palestine is our land, and that the Israelis are invading occupiers that have to be fought."

"He clearly is creating expectations among Muslims that Al Qaeda will soon hit Israel," ex-CIA Bin Laden hunter Michael Scheuer told me. "He usually does not raise expectations just because he can."

But there was little, if anything, particularly new in Bin Laden's latest rant from an undisclosed location - most likely Pakistan's tribal belt. He has long claimed that the plight of Palestinians motivates his followers, something one counterterrorism official described as a "well-worn theme."

"But that doesn't mean U.S. intelligence is dismissive of it," the official hastened to add.

Recall that in 2002, the late Palestinian radical-turned-pol Yasser Arafat told Britain's Sunday Times that Bin Laden was hiding behind the legitimacy of the Palestinian cause.

"He hasn't helped us," Arafat said.

Bin Laden today also said the 19 hijackers who used four jetliners to attack New York City and Washington on Sept. 11, 2001, acted out of revenge for U.S. policies toward the Palestinian people. Killing 2,973 people that day gave the killers a "great feeling" as they unleashed the carnage, he boasted.

Old news. The beast has told us that before.

I really got to thinking about this today after reading ABC News consultant and ex-FBI agent Brad Garrett's take: "It's a case of measured irrelevance. We used to do back flips when one of his tapes would arrive but no longer."

Officially, intelligence agencies view the Bin Laden tapes as mere propaganda.

They're also proof he's still breathing. When he released a tape on January 19, 2006, after a quiet 14-month stretch, it put to rest rumors of his death.

But Scheuer argues that Bin Laden is capitalizing on the ill will President Bush has engendered throughout the Muslim world with his wars in Afghanistan and particularly the "long war" still bleeding America in Iraq.

"Osama's just icing the cake Bush made and which my kids and yours are going to fight and die for," Scheuer said in his usual blunt tone.

http://counterterrorismblog.org/
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
AMericans and Westerners in general.


If the PLANNING takes 3-4-5 years and the preparations takes 2-3-4 years so that the whole thing takes 6-7-8 years we westerners have lost sight of the ball.

How long did it take for WTC 1 to get set up???

How long between WTC 1 and 2??

Khobar Towers to WTC???


It's been under 7 years, and the norm for the BIG strikes is 7-8.....
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Just for the record.....

Bin Laden slams West over Israel, vows to fight on



DUBAI (AFP) — Al-Qaeda chief Osama bin Laden slammed Western leaders for taking part in Israel's 60th birthday celebrations and vowed that Muslims would fight and not give up "one inch of Palestine," in an audio message Friday.

"The participation of Western leaders with the Jews in this celebration confirms that the West supports this ugly Jewish occupation of our lands and that they stand in the Israelis' trench against us," Bin Laden said in the "message to Western peoples" posted on the Internet.

"We will continue the fight against the Israelis and their allies... and we will not give up one inch of Palestine, God willing, as long as there is one sincere Muslim on this earth," the message added.

The message, which lasted nearly 10 minutes and was posted on a website used by Islamist militants, came as US President George W. Bush took part in celebrations of Israel's 60th anniversary, an occasion marked by Palestinians as the "catastrophe" which led to their dispossession.

The audio was titled "A message from Sheikh Osama bin Laden to Western peoples: the causes of the conflict on the 60th anniversary of the creation of the state of Israeli occupation."

"Bush's promises to (set up a Palestinian) state in the full sense of the word are empty promises," bin Laden said.

"Jihad (holy war) is a duty to liberate Palestine," he added.

The authenticity of the message could not be independently verified, but the voice appeared to be that of the Al-Qaeda chief, who has taken credit for the September 11, 2001 attacks in the United States.

It was accompanied by an image of a white turbaned bin Laden.

In his previous message on March 20, bin Laden urged Muslims to support the insurgency in Iraq as the best way to help the Palestinians, and accused Arab leaders of backing Israeli attacks on the Hamas-controlled Gaza Strip.

In the latest message, bin Laden again blasted the "Gaza massacre."

The slaughters that began at Deir Yassin at the time of Israel's establishment in 1948 never stopped, he said.

"Here's the Gaza massacre ... unfolding today in full view of the whole world -- one and a half million people under a killing blockade, exposed to a slow death as a result of malnutrition and lack of medicines," the Al-Qaeda chief said of the crippling Israeli blockade of the Gaza Strip, run by the Islamist Hamas movement.

Western leaders also pressure "the ruler of Egypt (President Hosni Mubarak) to tighten the blockade" from his side of the border with Gaza, bin Laden said.

In an apparent reference to Bush, bin Laden said "terrorism and armed robbery" that began with the creation of Israel on usurped Palestinian land was being practised now by "the commander of the mightiest military machine on earth."

And he told Western peoples: "I address you today so that you will know one of the main causes of the conflict between our civilisation and yours, namely the Palestinian issue.

"It is my nation's pivotal issue, and hence it was an important factor in giving me since childhood, and giving the 19 free men (who carried out the 9/11 attacks), an overwhelming feeling that we must stand by the oppressed and punish the unjust Jews and their backers."

Bin Laden has claimed responsibility for the September 11 attacks which killed nearly 3,000 people and prompted the US-led invasion of Afghanistan.

Despite a massive manhunt and a 25-million-dollar bounty on his head, he has evaded capture and has regularly taunted the United States and its allies through warnings issued via video and audio, mainly on the Internet.



http://afp.google.com/article/ALeqM5iyzFhcyTrH6q4GdVpZUIfCljGXzA


:dvl2:
 

CelticRose

Inactive
AMericans and Westerners in general.


If the PLANNING takes 3-4-5 years and the preparations takes 2-3-4 years so that the whole thing takes 6-7-8 years we westerners have lost sight of the ball.

How long did it take for WTC 1 to get set up???

How long between WTC 1 and 2??

Khobar Towers to WTC???


It's been under 7 years, and the norm for the BIG strikes is 7-8.....

Exactly! ..... The further we get from 9-11, the easier for many to forget the carnage and grow lax .........
 

Wardogs

Inactive
The only difference between the two is that Obama is actually a real threat to America.

That's right, there is no threat from them. Just a figment of Bush's imagination... Just a ploy to keep us scared right?
THESE people would disagree... or they would if they were able to. Unfortunately they can't because they are all dead. Killed by that figment of Bush's imagination.

Terrorist Acts Commited by or Inspired by al-Qaeda

* 1993 (Feb.): Bombing of World Trade Center (WTC); 6 killed.
* 1993 (Oct.): Killing of U.S. soldiers in Somalia.
* 1996 (June): Truck bombing at Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killed 19 Americans.
* 1998 (Aug.): Bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; 224 killed, including 12 Americans.
* 1999 (Dec.): Plot to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle foiled when customs agents arrest an Algerian smuggling explosives into the U.S.
* 2000 (Oct.): Bombing of the USS Cole in port in Yemen; 17 U.S. sailors killed.
* 2001 (Sept.): Destruction of WTC; attack on Pentagon. Total dead 2,992.
* 2001 (Dec.): Man tried to denote shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
* 2002 (April): Explosion at historic synagogue in Tunisia left 21 dead, including 11 German tourists.
* 2002 (May): Car exploded outside hotel in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 14, including 11 French citizens.
* 2002 (June): Bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12.
* 2002 (Oct.): Boat crashed into oil tanker off Yemen coast, killing 1.
* 2002 (Oct.): Nightclub bombings in Bali, Indonesia, killed 202, mostly Australian citizens.
* 2002 (Nov.): Suicide attack on a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, killed 16.
* 2003 (May): Suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
* 2003 (May): 4 bombs killed 33 people targeting Jewish, Spanish, and Belgian sites in Casablanca, Morocco.
* 2003 (Aug.): Suicide car-bomb killed 12, injured 150 at Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia.
* 2003 (Nov.): Explosions rocked a Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, housing compound, killing 17.
* 2003 (Nov.): Suicide car-bombers simultaneously attacked 2 synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 25 and injuring hundreds.
* 2003 (Nov.): Truck bombs detonated at London bank and British consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 26.
* 2004 (March): 10 bombs on 4 trains exploded almost simultaneously during the morning rush hour in Madrid, Spain, killing 191 and injuring more than 1,500.
* 2004 (May): Terrorists attacked Saudi oil company offices in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, killing 22.
* 2004 (June): Terrorists kidnapped and executed American Paul Johnson, Jr., in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
* 2004 (Sept.): Car bomb outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, killed 9.
* 2004 (Dec.): Terrorists entered the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing 9 (including 4 attackers).
* 2005 (July): Bombs exploded on 3 trains and a bus in London, England, killing 52.
* 2005 (Oct.): 22 killed by 3 suicide bombs in Bali, Indonesia.
* 2005 (Nov.): 57 killed at 3 American hotels in Amman, Jordan.
* 2006 (Jan.): Two suicide bombers carrying police badges blow themselves up near a celebration at the Police Academy in Baghdad, killing nearly 20 police officers. Al-Qaeda in Iraq takes responsibility.
* 2006 (Aug.): Police arrest 24 British-born Muslims, most of whom have ties to Pakistan, who had allegedly plotted to blow up as many as 10 planes using liquid explosives. Officials say details of the plan were similar to other schemes devised by al-Qaeda.
* 2007 (April): Suicide bombers attack a government building in Algeria's capital, Algiers, killing 35 and wounding hundreds more. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb claims responsibility.
* 2007 (April): Eight people, including two Iraqi legislators, die when a suicide bomber strikes inside the Parliament building in Baghdad. An organization that includes al-Qaeda in Iraq claims responsibility. In another attack, the Sarafiya Bridge that spans the Tigris River is destroyed.
* 2007 (June): British police find car bombs in two vehicles in London. The attackers reportedly tried to detonate the bombs using cell phones but failed. Government officials say al-Qaeda is linked to the attempted attack. The following day, an SUV carrying bombs bursts into flames after it slams into an entrance to Glasgow Airport. Officials say the attacks are connected.
* 2007 (December): As many as 60 people are killed in two suicide attacks near United Nations offices and government buildings in Algiers, Algeria. The bombings occur within minutes of each other. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, formerly called the Salafist Group for Preaching, claims responsibility. It's the worst attack in the Algeria in more than 10 years

These are just al Qaeda, they don't list all those killed by other groups or the thousands killed in Iraq by AQI, including dozens more Americans.

No threat here though, they were all just figments of Bush's imagination right?
wardogs
 

IM Benedict

Inactive
That's right, there is no threat from them. Just a figment of Bush's imagination... Just a ploy to keep us scared right?
THESE people would disagree... or they would if they were able to. Unfortunately they can't because they are all dead. Killed by that figment of Bush's imagination.

Terrorist Acts Commited by or Inspired by al-Qaeda

* 1993 (Feb.): Bombing of World Trade Center (WTC); 6 killed.
* 1993 (Oct.): Killing of U.S. soldiers in Somalia.
* 1996 (June): Truck bombing at Khobar Towers barracks in Dhahran, Saudi Arabia, killed 19 Americans.
* 1998 (Aug.): Bombing of U.S. embassies in Kenya and Tanzania; 224 killed, including 12 Americans.
* 1999 (Dec.): Plot to bomb millennium celebrations in Seattle foiled when customs agents arrest an Algerian smuggling explosives into the U.S.
* 2000 (Oct.): Bombing of the USS Cole in port in Yemen; 17 U.S. sailors killed.
* 2001 (Sept.): Destruction of WTC; attack on Pentagon. Total dead 2,992.
* 2001 (Dec.): Man tried to denote shoe bomb on flight from Paris to Miami.
* 2002 (April): Explosion at historic synagogue in Tunisia left 21 dead, including 11 German tourists.
* 2002 (May): Car exploded outside hotel in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 14, including 11 French citizens.
* 2002 (June): Bomb exploded outside American consulate in Karachi, Pakistan, killing 12.
* 2002 (Oct.): Boat crashed into oil tanker off Yemen coast, killing 1.
* 2002 (Oct.): Nightclub bombings in Bali, Indonesia, killed 202, mostly Australian citizens.
* 2002 (Nov.): Suicide attack on a hotel in Mombasa, Kenya, killed 16.
* 2003 (May): Suicide bombers killed 34, including 8 Americans, at housing compounds for Westerners in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
* 2003 (May): 4 bombs killed 33 people targeting Jewish, Spanish, and Belgian sites in Casablanca, Morocco.
* 2003 (Aug.): Suicide car-bomb killed 12, injured 150 at Marriott Hotel in Jakarta, Indonesia.
* 2003 (Nov.): Explosions rocked a Riyadh, Saudi Arabia, housing compound, killing 17.
* 2003 (Nov.): Suicide car-bombers simultaneously attacked 2 synagogues in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 25 and injuring hundreds.
* 2003 (Nov.): Truck bombs detonated at London bank and British consulate in Istanbul, Turkey, killing 26.
* 2004 (March): 10 bombs on 4 trains exploded almost simultaneously during the morning rush hour in Madrid, Spain, killing 191 and injuring more than 1,500.
* 2004 (May): Terrorists attacked Saudi oil company offices in Khobar, Saudi Arabia, killing 22.
* 2004 (June): Terrorists kidnapped and executed American Paul Johnson, Jr., in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia.
* 2004 (Sept.): Car bomb outside the Australian embassy in Jakarta, Indonesia, killed 9.
* 2004 (Dec.): Terrorists entered the U.S. Consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, killing 9 (including 4 attackers).
* 2005 (July): Bombs exploded on 3 trains and a bus in London, England, killing 52.
* 2005 (Oct.): 22 killed by 3 suicide bombs in Bali, Indonesia.
* 2005 (Nov.): 57 killed at 3 American hotels in Amman, Jordan.
* 2006 (Jan.): Two suicide bombers carrying police badges blow themselves up near a celebration at the Police Academy in Baghdad, killing nearly 20 police officers. Al-Qaeda in Iraq takes responsibility.
* 2006 (Aug.): Police arrest 24 British-born Muslims, most of whom have ties to Pakistan, who had allegedly plotted to blow up as many as 10 planes using liquid explosives. Officials say details of the plan were similar to other schemes devised by al-Qaeda.
* 2007 (April): Suicide bombers attack a government building in Algeria's capital, Algiers, killing 35 and wounding hundreds more. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb claims responsibility.
* 2007 (April): Eight people, including two Iraqi legislators, die when a suicide bomber strikes inside the Parliament building in Baghdad. An organization that includes al-Qaeda in Iraq claims responsibility. In another attack, the Sarafiya Bridge that spans the Tigris River is destroyed.
* 2007 (June): British police find car bombs in two vehicles in London. The attackers reportedly tried to detonate the bombs using cell phones but failed. Government officials say al-Qaeda is linked to the attempted attack. The following day, an SUV carrying bombs bursts into flames after it slams into an entrance to Glasgow Airport. Officials say the attacks are connected.
* 2007 (December): As many as 60 people are killed in two suicide attacks near United Nations offices and government buildings in Algiers, Algeria. The bombings occur within minutes of each other. Al-Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb, formerly called the Salafist Group for Preaching, claims responsibility. It's the worst attack in the Algeria in more than 10 years

These are just al Qaeda, they don't list all those killed by other groups or the thousands killed in Iraq by AQI, including dozens more Americans.

No threat here though, they were all just figments of Bush's imagination right?
wardogs

Wardogs, that's quite a list. Maybe everyone should notice the conspicuous absence of any activity in 2008. There are different ways of reading this, of course. Over due?

IM Benedict watching and praying
 

MaureenO

Another Infidel
Wardogs, that's quite a list. Maybe everyone should notice the conspicuous absence of any activity in 2008. There are different ways of reading this, of course. Over due?

IM Benedict watching and praying

It certainly is quite a list and it doesn't even take into account the interdicted attempts and plans.

Maureen :dstrs:
 

Wardogs

Inactive
Wardogs, that's quite a list. Maybe everyone should notice the conspicuous absence of any activity in 2008. There are different ways of reading this, of course. Over due?

IM Benedict watching and praying

Bin Laden has always been an organizer, financier and planner rather than an "operative", especially since the Russians were defeated in Afghanistan. Even the 9/11 attack, although conceived and financed, by him and his aides, was actually planned and controlled by a cell in Hamburg, Germany.
In Dec of '07 Stratfor published an assesment for 2008 of the likely operational strategies of the three main al Qaeda groups. It has been remarkably accurate, especially concerning AQI. Also, it's always been al-Zawahiri that has been the real idealogue. HIS statements and tapes are the ones that contain the real information and focus of al Qaeda as a political force.
wardog

Al Qaeda in 2008: The Struggle for Relevance

December 19, 2007 | 1814 GMT
Graphic for Terrorism Intelligence Report
http://www.stratfor.com/weekly/al_qaeda_2008_struggle_relevance

On Dec. 16, al Qaeda’s As-Sahab media branch released a 97-minute video message from al Qaeda second-in-command Ayman al-Zawahiri. In the message, titled “A Review of Events,” al-Zawahiri readdressed a number of his favorite topics at length.

This video appeared just two days after As-Sahab released a 20-minute al-Zawahiri message titled “Annapolis — The Treason.” In that message, al-Zawahiri speaks on audio tape while a still photograph of him is displayed over a montage of photos from the peace conference in Annapolis, Md. As the title implies, al-Zawahiri criticizes the conference.

Although the Dec. 14 release appeared first, it obviously was recorded after the Dec. 16 video. Given the content of the Dec. 14 message, it most likely was recorded shortly after the Nov. 27 Annapolis conference and before the Dec. 11 twin bombings in Algeria. The two latest releases are interrelated, however, given that the still photo of al-Zawahiri used in the Dec. 14 message appears to have been captured from the video released two days later.

After having been subjected to two hours of al-Zawahiri opinions in just two days, we cannot help but wonder whether anyone else is listening to this guy — and, if so, why? This question is particularly appropriate now, as we come to the time of the year when we traditionally prepare our annual forecast on al Qaeda. As we look ahead to 2008, the core al Qaeda leadership clearly is struggling to remain relevant in the ideological realm, a daunting task for an organization that has been rendered geopolitically and strategically impotent on the physical battlefield.

Devolution

The theme of our 2007 al Qaeda forecast was the continuation of the metamorphosis of al Qaeda from a smaller core group of professional operatives into an operational model that encourages independent “grassroots” jihadists to conduct attacks, or into a model in which al Qaeda provides the operational commanders who organize grassroots cells. We referred to this shift as devolution because it signified a return to al Qaeda’s pre-9/11 model.

We noted that the shift gave al Qaeda “the movement” a broader geographic and operational reach than al Qaeda “the group,” but we also said that this larger, dispersed group of actors lacked the operational depth and expertise of the core group and its well-trained terrorist cadre.

Looking back at the successful, attempted and thwarted attacks in 2007, this prediction was largely on-target. The high-profile attacks and thwarted attacks were plotted by grassroots groups such as the one responsible for the attacks in London and Glasgow, Scotland, or by regional affiliates such as al Qaeda’s franchise in Algeria, al Qaeda in the Islamic Maghreb (AQIM). The core al Qaeda group once again failed to conduct any attacks.

British authorities have indicated that the men responsible for the failed London and Glasgow attempts were linked in some way to al Qaeda in Iraq, though any such links must have been fairly inconsequential. The al Qaeda franchise in Iraq has conducted hundreds of successful bombings and has a considerable amount of experience in tradecraft and bombmaking, while the London and Glasgow attempts showed a decided lack of tradecraft and bombmaking skills.

Regional Franchises

The al Qaeda nodes in Egypt, the Sinai Peninsula and Indonesia were all quiet this year. The Egyptian node has not carried out a successful attack since announcing its allegiance to al Qaeda in August 2006. Jemaah Islamiyah, al Qaeda’s Indonesian franchise, has not conducted a successful attack since the October 2005 Bali bombing, and the Sinai node, Tawhid wa al-Jihad, did not conduct any attacks in 2007. Its last attack was in April 2006.

The Saudi franchise conducted only one successful operation in 2007, a small-arms attack against a group of French and Belgian nationals picnicking near Medina, which resulted in the deaths of four Frenchmen. This is a far cry from the peak of its operational activities during the summer of 2004. The Yemen node also conducted one attack, as it did in 2006, a July 2 suicide car bombing against a tourist convoy that resulted in the deaths of eight Spaniards. The Moroccan element of AQIM attempted to carry out attacks in March and April, though the group’s inept tactics and inadequate planning resulted in the deaths of more suicide bombers than victims.

These regional nodes largely have been brought under control by a series of successful campaigns against them. Police operations in Saudi Arabia, the Sinai and Indonesia have provided some evidence that the groups have been trying to regroup and refit. Therefore, the campaigns against these regional nodes will need to remain in place for the foreseeable future to ensure that these organizations do not reconstitute themselves and resume operations.

We noted in our 2007 forecast that AQIM had not yet proven itself. However, the series of attacks by AQIM this year demonstrated that the group is resourceful and resilient, even in the face of Algerian government operations and ideological divisions. In fact, AQIM was the most prolific and deadly group in 2007 outside of the active war zones of Iraq and Afghanistan. With al Qaeda in Iraq facing serious problems, AQIM is in many ways carrying the torch for the jihadist movement. With other regional nodes seemingly under control, the U.S. and other governments now can pay more attention to AQIM. Throughout the coming year, the Algerian government likely will receive much more assistance from the United States and its allies in its efforts to dismantle the group. AQIM — the former Salafist Group for Preaching and Combat (GSPC) — has existed since the early 1990s and its dedicated cadre has survived many attempts to eliminate it — though it likely will be pressed hard over the next year.

In a Nov. 3 audio message, al-Zawahiri said the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG) had formally joined the al Qaeda network. This came as no real surprise, given that members of the group have long been close to Osama bin Laden, and al Qaeda has a large number of Libyan cadre, including Abu Yahya al-Libi, Anas al-Libi and Abu Faraj al-Libi (who reportedly is being held by U.S. forces at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba.) The LIFG-al Qaeda link became apparent in September 2001, when the U.S. government identified the LIFG as a specially designated terrorist entity (along with the GSPC and others.)

Although Libyans have played a large role in al Qaeda and the global jihadist movement, the LIFG itself has been unable to conduct any significant attacks. Historically, Libyan security forces have kept the LIFG in check to the point that most high-profile Libyan jihadists operate outside Libya — unlike the AQIM leadership, which operates within Algeria. It will be important to watch this new node to see whether it can ramp up its capabilities to conduct meaningful operations inside Libya, or even in other countries where the group has a presence — though we doubt it will be able to pose a serious threat to the Libyan regime.

Another relatively new jihadist presence appeared on the radar screen Feb. 13, when the Fatah al-Islam group bombed two buses in the Lebanese Christian enclave of Ain Alaq, killing three people. Following the Lebanese army’s efforts to arrest those group members believed responsible for the bombing, the group holed up in the Nahr el-Bared refugee camp in northern Lebanon, where it endured a siege by the Lebanese army that began in March and lasted until early September. Shaker al-Abssi, the leader of Fatah al-Islam, is said to have links to former al Qaeda in Iraq leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Along with al-Zarqawi, al-Abssi was sentenced to death in Jordan for his suspected involvement in the 2002 killing of U.S. diplomat Laurence Foley in Amman. He served a three-year jail sentence in Syria and then moved into Nahr el-Bared to establish Fatah al-Islam, which is believed to be controlled by Syrian intelligence. While Fatah al-Islam lost many of its fighters during the five-month siege, we have received intelligence reports suggesting that the Syrians are helping the group recover. The intelligence also suggests that the more the Syrians cooperate with U.S. objectives in Iraq, the more they will press the use of their jihadist proxies in Lebanon. In pursuing such a course, the Syrians are playing with fire, which may well come to haunt them, as it has the Saudis and Pakistanis.

Iraq’s Contribution

Events in Iraq likely will have a significant impact on the global jihadist movement in the coming year. Since the death of al-Zarqawi, al Qaeda in Iraq’s operational ability steadily has declined. Furthermore, the organization appears to be losing its support among the Iraqi Sunnis and apparently has had problems getting foreign fighters into the country as of late. This could indicate that there will soon be an exodus of jihadists from the country. These jihadists, who have been winnowed and hardened by their combat against the U.S. military, might find the pastures greener in the countries they enter after leaving Iraq. Like the mujahideen who left Afghanistan following the Soviet withdrawal, they could go on to pose a real threat elsewhere.

Additionally, since 2003 Iraq has been a veritable jihadist magnet, drawing jihadists from all over the world. If there is no possibility of seeking “martyrdom” in Iraq, these men (and a few women) will have to find another place to embrace their doom. The coalition’s list of foreign jihadists killed in Iraq shows that most of the fighters have come to the country from places such as Saudi Arabia, Algeria and Morocco, but jihadists also have come from many other countries, including the United States, United Kingdom and European Union. Jihadists in these places might opt to follow the example of the July 2005 London bombers and martyr themselves in their countries of residence.

Jihadists in Iraq have had the luxury of having an extensive amount of military ordnance at their disposal. This ordnance has made it relatively simple to construct improvised explosive devices, including large truck bombs. This, in turn, has made it possible to engage hard targets — such as U.S. military bases and convoys. Jihadists without access to these types of weapons (and the type of training they received in Iraq) will be more likely to engage soft targets. In fact, the only group we saw with the expertise and ordnance to hit hard targets outside of Iraq and Afghanistan in 2007 was AQIM. As we forecast for 2006 and 2007, we anticipate that the trend toward attacking soft targets will continue in 2008.

Afghanistan and Pakistan

Despite U.S. and NATO forces’ repeated tactical victories on the battlefield, al Qaeda’s Afghan allies, the Taliban, continue to survive — the critical task for any guerrilla force engaged in an insurgent war. Following a pattern that has been repeated many times throughout Afghan history — most recently in the war following the Soviet invasion — the Taliban largely seek to avoid extended battles and instead seek to engage in hit-and-run guerrilla operations. This is because they realize that they cannot stand toe-to-toe with the superior armaments of the foreign invaders. Indeed, when they have tried to stand and fight, they have taken heavy losses. Therefore, they occasionally will occupy a town, such as Musa Qala, but will retreat in the face of overwhelming force and return when that superior force has been deployed elsewhere.

Due to the presence of foreign troops, the Taliban have no hope of taking control of Afghanistan at this juncture. However, unlike the foreign troops, the Taliban fighters and their commanders are not going anywhere. They have a patient philosophy and will bide their time until the tactical or political conditions change in their favor. Meanwhile, they are willing to continue their guerrilla campaign and sustain levels of casualties that would be politically untenable for their U.S. and NATO rivals. The Taliban have a very diffuse structure, and even the loss of senior leaders such as Mullah Dadullah and Mullah Obaidullah Akhund has not proven to be much of a hindrance.

Just over the border from Afghanistan, Pakistan has witnessed the rapid spread of Talibanization. As a result, Islamabad now is fighting a jihadist insurgency of its own in the Federally Administered Tribal Areas and the North-West Frontier Province. The spread of this ideology beyond the border areas was perhaps best demonstrated by the July assault by the Pakistani army against militants barricaded inside the Red Mosque in Islamabad. Since the assault against the mosque, Pakistan has been wracked by a wave of suicide bombings.

Pakistan should be carefully watched because it could prove to be a significant flash point in the coming year. As the global headquarters for the al Qaeda leadership, Pakistan has long been a significant stronghold on the ideological battlefield. If the trend toward radicalization continues there, the country also could become the new center of gravity for the jihadist movement on the physical battlefield. Pakistan will become especially important if the trend in Iraq continues to go against the jihadists and they are driven from Iraq.

The Year Ahead

Given the relative ease of getting an operative into the United States, the sheer number of soft targets across the vast country and the simplicity of conducting an attack, we remain surprised that no jihadist attack occurred on U.S. soil in 2007. However, we continue to believe that the United States, as well as Europe, remains vulnerable to tactical-level jihadist strikes — though we do not believe that the jihadists have the capability to launch a strategically significant attack, even if they were to employ chemical, biological or radiological weapons.

Jihadists have shown a historical fixation on using toxins and poisons. As Stratfor repeatedly has pointed out, however, chemical and biological weapons are expensive to produce, difficult to use and largely ineffective in real-world applications. Radiological weapons (dirty bombs) also are far less effective than many people have been led to believe. In fact, history clearly has demonstrated that explosives are far cheaper, easier to use and more effective at killing people than these more exotic weapons. The failure by jihadists in Iraq to use chlorine effectively in their attacks has more recently underscored the problems associated with the use of improvised chemical weapons — the bombs killed far more people than the chlorine they were meant to disperse as a mass casualty weapon.

Al-Zawahiri’s messages over the past year clearly have reflected the pressure that the group is feeling. The repeated messages referencing Iraq and the need for unity among the jihadists there show that al-Zawahiri believes the momentum has shifted in Iraq and things are not going well for al Qaeda there. Tactically, al Qaeda’s Iraqi node still is killing people, but strategically the group’s hopes of establishing a caliphate there under the mantle of the Islamic State of Iraq have all but disappeared. These dashed hopes have caused the group to lash out against former allies, which has worsened al Qaeda’s position.

It also is clear that al Qaeda is feeling the weight of the ideological war against it — waged largely by Muslims. Al-Zawahiri repeatedly has lamented specific fatwas by Saudi clerics declaring that the jihad in Iraq is not obligatory and forbidding young Muslims from going to Iraq. In a message broadcast in July, al-Zawahiri said, “I would like to remind everyone that the most dangerous weapons in the Saudi-American system are not buying of loyalties, spying on behalf of the Americans or providing facilities to them. No, the most dangerous weapons of that system are those who outwardly profess advice, guidance and instruction …” In other words, al Qaeda fears fatwas more than weapons. Weapons can kill people — fatwas can kill the ideology that motivates people.

There are two battlegrounds in the war against jihadism: the physical and the ideological. Because of its operational security considerations, the al Qaeda core has been marginalized in the physical battle. This has caused it to abandon its position at the vanguard of the physical jihad and take up the mantle of leadership in the ideological battle. The core no longer poses a strategic threat to the United States in the physical world, but it is striving hard to remain relevant on the ideological battleground.

In many ways, the ideological battleground is more important than the physical war. It is far easier to kill people than it is to kill ideologies. Therefore, it is important to keep an eye on the ideological battleground to determine how that war is progressing. In the end, that is why it is important to listen to hours of al-Zawahiri statements. They contain clear signs regarding the status of the war against jihadism. The signs as of late indicate that the ideological war is not going so well for the jihadists, but they also point to potential hazards around the bend in places such as Pakistan and Lebanon.
 

ontheright

TROPIC LIGHTNING GO 25th
We (society as a whole) is asleep at the wheel. We are overdue for another major attack. Whether it be a massive bomb or a biological attack, I am more concerned about the latter, it is coming. For some reason I am concerned about Memorial Day weekend....I know...I know every year we hear the same rhetoric, but this year seems different to me. FBI & DHS seem to have more "feet on the ground" this year at major venues i.e Indy and Charlotte.
Those who simply blow off these messages are fools. They are (the messages), in fact as stated above, more pieces of the puzzle.
Personally I think OBL is alive and well. Zawarhiri stated as such in his last message. What do they gain by lying about it? I believe if he had died they would have simply honored his martyrdom and announced a new leader.

IMHO

OTR
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
We (society as a whole) is asleep at the wheel. We are overdue for another major attack. Whether it be a massive bomb or a biological attack, I am more concerned about the latter, it is coming. For some reason I am concerned about Memorial Day weekend....I know...I know every year we hear the same rhetoric, but this year seems different to me. FBI & DHS seem to have more "feet on the ground" this year at major venues i.e Indy and Charlotte.
Those who simply blow off these messages are fools. They are (the messages), in fact as stated above, more pieces of the puzzle.
Personally I think OBL is alive and well. Zawarhiri stated as such in his last message. What do they gain by lying about it? I believe if he had died they would have simply honored his martyrdom and announced a new leader.

IMHO

OTR


*reminder bump*


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