How You Can Become A “Gun Felon”

Malone Laveigh

Inactive
How You Can Become A “Gun Felon”

by David Codrea

“If you pull the trigger once and it fires more than one round, no matter what the cause it’s a machine gun.”

At 2:15 PM on January 8 of this year, the Milwaukee jury in the trial of United States vs. David R. Olofson convened. Forty minutes later they emerged, returning a unanimous verdict against the veteran and National Guardsman: “Guilty.”

Olofson, you see, had loaned one of his rifles, and it malfunctioned at a range, firing off short bursts before jamming. This was called to the attention of local authorities who seized the rifle, an Olympic Arms AR-15. They in turn called BATFE, who decided to make a federal case out of it, charging Olofson with illegally transferring a machinegun.

Enter Len Savage (See “Failing the Test,” July 2005), President of Historic Arms, LLC, brought in by Olofson’s defense to testify the automatic fire was not by design or intent, but rather by mechanical failure, and that the firearm in question was simply a semiautomatic rifle that needed to be repaired.

The opposition would have none of that. Savage was not permitted to personally examine the rifle — not even to touch it. He was required to observe as the ATF officer opened it for inspection. His professional credentials were challenged by the prosecution, who wanted his testimony excluded, even though Savage is a firearm designer by profession, and the government’s expert witness received all of his training in the 2-1/2 years he’d been with the bureau. Then the prosecution reneged on its pledge not to sequester witnesses, and had Savage removed from the courtroom so he could not hear the government’s testimony.

So in the end, it didn’t matter this was merely a case of a “hammer follow.”

It didn’t matter the rifle in question had not been intentionally modified for select fire, or that it did not have an M16 bolt carrier or sear, that it did not show any signs of machining or drilling, or that that model had even been recalled a few years back.

It didn’t matter that, when asked if he’d test fired the gun, Savage testified “From my examination and from what I saw on the [ATF test] video I wouldn’t want to attempt it … the video shows the guy who was shooting it was so afraid to fire it from the shoulder he had to hold it out in front of him. So he knew it was dangerous.”

It didn’t matter the government had repeatedly failed to replicate automatic fire until they replaced the ammunition with a softer primer type. It didn’t even matter that the prosecution admitted it was not important to prove the gun would do it again if the test were conducted today.

What mattered was the government’s position that none of the above was relevant because “There’s no indication it makes any difference under the statute. If you pull the trigger once and it fires more than one round, no matter what the cause it’s a machine gun.”

No matter what the cause.

Think about if your semiauto ever malfunctions. Because that’s how close you could be to becoming a convicted “gun felon.”

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That's right folks. You better make damn sure you're primers are hard enough in military type weapons that you can, UNDER NO CIRCUMSTANCES have a slam-fire.

If you do, you own a machinegun!!! Unless it's licensed as such, you just received 10 years, that's right, I said 10 YEARS, in a Federal Prison!!!

Whew, I sure am glad that they're going after the REAL criminals. :whistle:



Malone
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
I've always said that you can do nothing and eventually over time become a felon.

Thats the way laws are designed. Politicians want to make every citizen a felon and be very scared of them.
 

Malone Laveigh

Inactive
It's my understanding that his attorney is rushing an appeal to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.

But with the Gov arguments of "it doesn't matter if it malfunctioned", something tells me the outcome will be the same.

Here is a copy of an email from Len Savage, I think y'all might find this interesting:
-----Original Message-----
From: len savage
Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2008 10:00 AM
To: Sanders, Robert E.; Brown, LtC. Robert K.
Cc: Ouimet, Jason
Subject: US v. Olofson

Yesterday the government has redefined what a machine gun is--any firearm that malfunctions and fires more than one round before jamming. [US v. Olofson]

I am awaiting the transcript of the hearing, however:

Judge Clevert [I am told] stated is does not matter what ammunition, or what error rate ATF testing has, or that a malfunction occurred, or even if it required ATF to modify the firearm, just that more than one round be fired per function of the trigger.
Every firearm in possession of your membership is a "machine gun" under this narrow interpretation. This is scientific fact, not my opinion. For example:
*A double barrel shotgun firing both barrels with a single trigger pull.
*A Colt single action loaded with thin primer ammo. [the pierced primer will "fan" the hammer with gas pressure] Look up Georgia machine gun statute, they exempted it by stating a machine gun must fire more than 6 shots per function of the trigger.
*The ATF firearms technology branch can test a rifle 100 different times, if they can manipulate it just once out of 100, your indicted.

The NRA's Jason Ouimet has been aware of this situation at ATF since before the congressional hearings on "the Virginia gun show incident" [I was supposed to testify at the hearings about the ATF testing issues at that time]. Much to my frustration, the hearing I was supposed to testify at was canceled. According to Jason, it was NRA who pulled the plug on me.

Now that the whole of the NRA membership is in jeopardy just by owning a firearm, will Wayne LaPierre, Chris Cox, and the NRA board going to do something about this during this week's convention?

Please pass this on to them:

Words will not be sufficient. If this gets "unplugged", as in the NRA refuses to address this issue, I WILL have no choice but to go to the media with documents and emails from NRA that were generated during the last round of hearings. I WILL pull back the rug and show the world where NRA swept this mess under to hide it.

Please forgive my abrupt and obtuse attitude. It is born of frustration, and deaf ears of the NRA leadership. I am there if I can to help the NRA, thus to date the NRA have refused to address this.

My question to NRA leadership:

Is this weekends convention going to be your finest hour, or will this be noted in history as the beginning of the end of the NRA?

Respectfully,

Len Savage
Historic Arms LLC




Malone
 

Troke

Deceased
"...The NRA's Jason Ouimet has been aware of this situation at ATF since before the congressional hearings on "the Virginia gun show incident" [I was supposed to testify at the hearings about the ATF testing issues at that time]. Much to my frustration, the hearing I was supposed to testify at was canceled. According to Jason, it was NRA who pulled the plug on me..."

Somebody from the NRA said that the NRA got a Congressional hearing cancelled?
Now that is clout!
 

NBCsurvivor

Has No Life - Lives on TB
First rule. Never lend your weapons to anyone.:shr:

Well, that is a very valid point.

However, I have some friends that are going camping soon and I HIGHLY suggested to them to take a firearm. They responded with 'they didn't have one' , so I suggested that they take my Moss. 590 JIC. They said OK.

Now, you have a very very very valid point and I agree, BUT I really couldn't live with myself if these cats were out in the woods and some black bear, panther, or big blazin' freaky monster jumped out and they didn't have anything to defend themselves with.

I know, they should be prepped themselves already, but you know how people are.

Just saying.
 

NBCsurvivor

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It's my understanding that his attorney is rushing an appeal to the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals.

But with the Gov arguments of "it doesn't matter if it malfunctioned", something tells me the outcome will be the same.

Here is a copy of an email from Len Savage, I think y'all might find this interesting:





Malone

Poor guy man.

:bwl:
 
No, considering that it's impossible for a double action revolver to fire twice with only one pull of the trigger.

Color me dumb! I misread the whole ding dang dong article...thought it said "more than once" not "once".

That is what I get for coming here and reading and hen replying when I am so tired. Time for me to go to bed, I guess.

Thanks,

Berta
 
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