Mystery Surrounds Polygamist Sect's Finances

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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[WTF??!?! Read my comment on the first reply to this post - Dennis]

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,356156,00.html

Mystery Surrounds Polygamist Sect's Finances
Thursday , May 15, 2008

ELDORADO, Texas —

In just five years, the West Texas polygamist sect transformed 1,700 acres of scrubland purchased for $700,000 into a bustling ranch with a blazing-white limestone temple, sprawling three-story log cabins, woodworking shops and a dairy.

Assessed value of the property now: $20.5 million.

How did members of the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints do it?

Sweat equity was clearly one factor. The men quarried limestone themselves from the hard ground and built the enormous homes with their own hands, using skills learned at construction companies close to the sect's main base of operations, on the Arizona-Utah line.

But as for where they got the money for building materials, dump trucks, rock-cutting equipment and other supplies, that is still something of a mystery.

"Who funded it? We're investigating. That's for dang sure," said Jeff Shields, a court-appointed lawyer studying the sect's finances.

Some suspect the FLDS supplied money to Eldorado from a $114 million trust fund that once included all the homes and land in the side-by-side FLDS towns of Hildale, Utah, and Colorado City, Ariz. Money may also have come from construction businesses and other ventures run by sect members, including an aircraft wheel and brake manufacturer in Nevada that holds a $1.2 million Pentagon contract, and an engineering firm that landed $11.3 million in work from Las Vegas water authorities.

Questions about the source of the sect's money have been swirling around the FLDS since Texas authorities raided their Yearning for Zion ranch last month and seized more than 460 youngsters because of evidence that the sect has been marrying off underage girls to older men.

The renegade Mormon splinter group bought the property for $412 an acre in 2003 and rapidly turned it into a self-contained home for roughly 700 people, with rows of planted vegetables and other farming enterprises, a dairy that produces milk and cheese, and shops for cabinetmaking and other woodworking — all to supply the ranch, not to turn a profit on the outside.

Enormous homes went up in a matter of weeks, and when the temple was built, at least 200 men swarmed to the property to cut rock from the soil and assemble the gleaming 80-foot house of worship, said J.D. Doyle, a pilot who has taken hundreds of photos of the ranch's development from his small plane. With the natural clay soil useless for farming, sect members brought in black dirt to grow vegetables.

"They worked around the clock. They can put up a 21,000-square-foot house in 2 1/2 weeks. Move in and have it perfect," Doyle said. "It was amazing to us to watch them do this."

The sect paid $424,000 in property taxes last year, or about 18 percent of Schleicher County's annual revenue. It is the third-biggest taxpayer in the county, behind two pieces of land that produce oil. Although FLDS is a church, it never sought tax-exempt status in Texas or in other Southwest states in which it operates.

Judge Johnny Griffin, the county's chief executive, said that as far as he knows, ranch residents paid their tax bill on time and without complaint.

FLDS spokesman and attorney Rod Parker said he doesn't know how the ranch and equipment were purchased or why the insular group never sought tax-exempt status.

The four men listed on Yearning for Zion corporate documents have no listed phone numbers in Texas, and the numbers for the Utah businesses controlled by David S. Allred, the member who scoped out the property first, have been disconnected.

Court-appointed accountants are trying to figure out if some of the money came from a trust fund now under government control.

The trust, set up in the 1940s, covered essentially everything in Hildale and Colorado City. In 2005, however, a Utah judge appointed an accountant to dissolve the trust after state attorneys argued that the sect's prophet, Warren Jeffs, and other leaders were using the assets for their own benefit.

Jeffs was arrested in 2006 and is serving up to life in prison after being convicted in Utah as an accomplice to rape for arranging the marriage of a 14-year-old girl to an older man.

Shields, an attorney on the trust case, said there has never been a full accounting of the trust assets because church leaders refused to turn over documents or answer questions. Even the identities of the trustees are a mystery; more than half are listed as "unnamed" in court documents.

The court-appointed lawyers overseeing the trust have subpoenaed any financial records state troopers may have seized in the April 3 raid on the Texas ranch.

"We have good cause to believe there's something relevant to what we're doing up here," Shields said.

Parker called such links "fantasies" and denied any trust money was used to fund the ranch.

The sect has other sources of money beyond the trust. Former members and experts on the sect say it encourages members to sign over any earnings from outside jobs to church leaders. In return, the church gives followers housing, clothes and food.

Within FLDS, "nobody owns anything. Everything is owned by the prophet, even your dress. You don't own the dress. You're allowed that article of clothing based on his mercy," said former member Carolyn Jessop, who lived in Hildale.

The outside ventures include New Era Manufacturing, an aircraft parts maker and defense contractor whose chief executive has been identified as an FLDS leader and close associate of Jeffs.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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Okay, I'm trying to figure this out. The original warrant (and subsequent attack on the compound by TPTB) was predicated on child abuse - specifically sexual molestation. So riddle me this Batman - how can TPTB now "investigate" their finances? I mean, that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the raid or LEA activity IN ANY WAY.

I guess they'll just get a third (sealed) warrant after-the-fact to cover whatever they "discover" in their ongoing witch-hunt of these people....
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
It astounds me how much effort goes into making someone "guilty" when we want them to be...

If we can't nail them on the polygamy angle we'll nail them on the financial angle - just so long as we can nail them... because we don't like them... because they're different.

:rolleyes:

:dstrs:
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
I wonder why they didn't seek tax-exempt status.....

as a Church - and is the Hilldale and Colorado City FLDS church groups are also not tax-exempt. Maybe as a church they are too closely allied with the businesses from which they get their funding???
 

Micah68

Inactive
as a Church - and is the Hilldale and Colorado City FLDS church groups are also not tax-exempt. Maybe as a church they are too closely allied with the businesses from which they get their funding???

No Amish, Mennonite, or other Anabaptist churches get tax exempt status, either. I know of some Fundamental Churches of Christ that do not have tax exempt status, either. When you ask the government for a favor, you are beholden to them and no one wants the government being able to direct the work of God.
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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Micah... our small, independent Bible based church chose to not apply for the tax exempt status, either... because of exactly that issue. The government is getting more and more active in saying what "exempt churches" are allowed to preach from the pulpit, it seems.

Summerthyme
 

changed

Preferred pronouns: dude/bro
""Who funded it? We're investigating. That's for dang sure," said Jeff Shields, a court-appointed lawyer studying the sect's finances."



Uh, hey, aren't court appointed lawyers supposed to represent the suspects?
 

Laurane

Canadian Loonie
If you read this book about the FLDS written by one of them.....

you have to wonder how anyone of them managed to build a home, let alone a temple - how they raised money for a huge compound and industries.

The people in what became Bountiful BC Canada, Hildale UT and Colorado City AZ we manipulated by a few felons (where were later convicted) who were out to make money......this book was written by a boy, Benjamin Bistline, who moved to Hildale when he was 10 and it is said on the back of the book that conditions were similar to that in a third world country.

For anyone who wants some kind of background info on the FLDS, this book is posted free online at

http://books.google.ca/books?id=IR_...sig=dsBzl-2jZIdIKq-j4KFFlCkjRO4&hl=en#PPT1,M1
 

Knoxville's Joker

Has No Life - Lives on TB
""Who funded it? We're investigating. That's for dang sure," said Jeff Shields, a court-appointed lawyer studying the sect's finances."



Uh, hey, aren't court appointed lawyers supposed to represent the suspects?

Nope, if you have a lawyer you are a ward of the court and are considered incomptent to represent yourself.

As well lawyers are an officer of the court, a conflict of interest if they are hired to work for you. These lawyers do not have your best interests at heart.

In some locales if you do not have a lawyer you can not be lawfully sentenced.

If these folks have any brains some will go prose and will throw a true wrench into the works.
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
Okay, I'm trying to figure this out. The original warrant (and subsequent attack on the compound by TPTB) was predicated on child abuse - specifically sexual molestation. So riddle me this Batman - how can TPTB now "investigate" their finances? I mean, that has NOTHING AT ALL to do with the raid or LEA activity IN ANY WAY.

I guess they'll just get a third (sealed) warrant after-the-fact to cover whatever they "discover" in their ongoing witch-hunt of these people....

There's been a third federal warrant, Dennis, sealed since the beginning, there's been references to it and the feds present but that's about it.

The investigation into the funding isn't new though, just hasn't been posted about much, here's related articles:

04/23 Subpoenas to see whether sect's $100M trust was drained to fund YFZ Ranch, improvements -- http://www.gosanangelo.com/news/2008/apr/23/subpoenas-to-see-whether-sects-100m-trust-was-to/

04/29 USE OF FEDERAL MONEY QUESTIONED Lawmakers Want Hearing on Ties Between Sect, Defense Contracts -- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/04/28/AR2008042802233.html

Lawmaker: Investigate FLDS-linked contract The transaction was made with New Era Manufacturing, then based in Hildale -- http://www.sltrib.com/portlet/article/html/fragments/print_article.jsp?articleId=9103066&siteId=297
 

SassyinAZ

Inactive
It astounds me how much effort goes into making someone "guilty" when we want them to be...

If we can't nail them on the polygamy angle we'll nail them on the financial angle - just so long as we can nail them... because we don't like them... because they're different.

:rolleyes:

:dstrs:

Well, I don't agree it's because they are different, but it is starting to remind me of how Al Capone and groupies went down.
 

Ender

Inactive
Any church is already tax-exempt.

When they incorporate, they become beholden to the state and are considered a state owned entity. Most churches incorporate out of ignorance.

It seems to me that the whole "saving the children ploy" was about grabbing the church's money.
 

Teeja

On the Beach
Well, I don't agree it's because they are different, but it is starting to remind me of how Al Capone and groupies went down.

Nice attempt at transference. (Comparing the FLDS mothers to Al Capone's gang).

Yeah, I know you're pointing out similarities referring to the methodology of law enforcement going for a lesser conviction on tax evasion as opposed to all the other stuff Capone did, but really... :rolleyes:

Seems some people are still trying to do everything possible to discredit, disparage, slander or cast suspicion upon this FLDS group.

Still waiting for someone... anyone... to be CHARGED WITH A CRIME.

So, what is it that we're after these mothers and children for now???... "men having sex with minors"?... no that didn't stick... then it was "child neglect"... no, that didn't stick.... then it was all about "taking the kids out of an environment that teaches them to become abusers in the future".... no that really didn't stick... so now it's about trying to find financial irregularities of the group. Yeah, maybe that'll work. :shk:

ONE BIG FISHING EXPEDITION.


:dstrs::
 
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SassyinAZ

Inactive
Nice attempt at transference. (Comparing the FLDS mothers to Al Capone's gang).

Are you kidding me, itja, that's not what I said at all.

Yeah, I know you're pointing out similarities referring to the methodology of law enforcement going for a lesser conviction on tax evasion as opposed to all the other stuff Capone did, but really... :rolleyes:

Yeah really, I typed what I meant and you read it right the first time.

Still not willing to be your troll-bait, sorry.
 
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