What's the difference between a typhoon and a hurricane?
- Thread starter Dennis Olson
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Look at the cartoon. That's what the thread is about. An uncaring authoritarian regime that doesn't care if the people live or die - And Mayanmar.
Copter Doctor
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Wait a minute! Are we supposed to 'drop' everything to 'assist' hurricane victims, when they didn't want to help themselves? How many BILLIONs of $$$ are we to spend on another bail out? Why bother rebuilding in an area that, according to the "Global Warming" crowd will be under water soon anyway? We should not be wasting more taxpayer funds on this mess!
Christ on a cracker! I posted the cartoon to demonstrate that there was essentially ZERO difference between how the government in Mayanmar has handled their hurrincane disaster relief, and the way the US government handled Katrina relief. Geez.....
Copter Doctor
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Ah. Thanks.
HeliumAvid
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Dennis,
I have to respectfully disagree. The government in Mayanmar is actively working to keep aid from their people, FEMA and our government just screwed up big time, but they did at least for the most part allow relief agencies to access. They did not hold the relief agencies completely at bay. I totally agree NOLA was a total FUBAR and I do not condone the actions of our government, but to put it on par with the actions of the Mayanmar government is a bit extreme. But the satire is useful.
Just my 2cents.
HeliumAvid
I have to respectfully disagree. The government in Mayanmar is actively working to keep aid from their people, FEMA and our government just screwed up big time, but they did at least for the most part allow relief agencies to access. They did not hold the relief agencies completely at bay. I totally agree NOLA was a total FUBAR and I do not condone the actions of our government, but to put it on par with the actions of the Mayanmar government is a bit extreme. But the satire is useful.
Just my 2cents.
HeliumAvid
night driver
ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
And they didn't illegally confiscate guns from law-abiding citizens or threaten people at gunpoint if they wanted to take their pets with them? And the cops didn't loot stores? Puh-leeeeeaaaase. There was PLENTY of government corruption and malfeasence at EVERY LEVEL of that debacle....
HeliumAvid
Too Tired to ReTire
Dennis;
I do agree with you. the .gov was a total S**t head in NOLA and they even F**K UP on the recovery phase when the element of Disaster RIGHT NOW was over. But I am not sure that those acts were from the top, rather the acts of overzealous locals that were scared S**tless and trying to regain control. Total lack of preparedness.
Oh well, don't worry, you will get to see it again REAL SOON, cause the financial storm that is about to hit will make NOLA look like a walk in the park.
HeliumAvid
I do agree with you. the .gov was a total S**t head in NOLA and they even F**K UP on the recovery phase when the element of Disaster RIGHT NOW was over. But I am not sure that those acts were from the top, rather the acts of overzealous locals that were scared S**tless and trying to regain control. Total lack of preparedness.
Oh well, don't worry, you will get to see it again REAL SOON, cause the financial storm that is about to hit will make NOLA look like a walk in the park.
HeliumAvid
Chartreuse
Yellow Solar Sun
I for one thought it was hilarious. Thanks for posting it.
Kickapoo Kicker
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1) The cartooon is hilarious.
2) The turn this thread took is even funnier
3) This probably goes over the heads of 97% of the population (of the united states, not TB2K). There are a lot of people who don't realize that typhoons and hurricanes are the same thing. There are still some people that think that a cyclone and a tornado are the same thing.
I made the mistake once, on-air, of refering to an incoming low pressure system as a cyclone. I was explaining the cyclonic flow and said, "that's why these are called cyclones". For a good 20-30 minutes after the newscast I was on the phone explaining what a cylcone is and why we weren't under tornado warnings.
2) The turn this thread took is even funnier
3) This probably goes over the heads of 97% of the population (of the united states, not TB2K). There are a lot of people who don't realize that typhoons and hurricanes are the same thing. There are still some people that think that a cyclone and a tornado are the same thing.
I made the mistake once, on-air, of refering to an incoming low pressure system as a cyclone. I was explaining the cyclonic flow and said, "that's why these are called cyclones". For a good 20-30 minutes after the newscast I was on the phone explaining what a cylcone is and why we weren't under tornado warnings.
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Copter Doctor
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Yup! Lord help the Federal Give-the-mint if they marched in and TOLD the state what to do and how to git-r-done. Lousysiana had a Democratic Governer! And the Mayor Mr. Chocolate City is Democratic too. Politics, ya know!
My two cents
Typhoons form West of the International Dateline...
Hurricanes form East of it...
A few years ago they ran into a problem when a hurricane crossed the dateline...all of the weather geeks were arguing about whether they had to give it a new name (eg Katrina) since it was in typhoon country or if they should stick to the hurricane name it already had.
I don't remember what they did.
Typhoons form West of the International Dateline...
Hurricanes form East of it...
A few years ago they ran into a problem when a hurricane crossed the dateline...all of the weather geeks were arguing about whether they had to give it a new name (eg Katrina) since it was in typhoon country or if they should stick to the hurricane name it already had.
I don't remember what they did.
closet squirrel
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Christ on a cracker?
thats a new one
thats a new one
Dennis, I recommend you go to the Popular Mechanics website and hunt up their "mythbuster" article about the mistaken beliefs about the feds and Katrina.
Really, if you want to play the blame game, look at the mayor of NO and the guv-lady of Louisiana...
And we've spent--and are continuing to spend--incredible amounts of money in post-Katrina relief.
'Rat
Really, if you want to play the blame game, look at the mayor of NO and the guv-lady of Louisiana...
And we've spent--and are continuing to spend--incredible amounts of money in post-Katrina relief.
'Rat
Rat, I am classing ALL levels of gooberment response into that debacle. There's MORE than enough incompetence and blame to go around. Trying to "parse" blame is futile, and attempting to exonerate various agencies and individuals, when they clearly DID play a role.
Amaryllis
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I don't know about Katrina, but I can tell you during Rita none of that happened. Also, the biggest obvious difference, one among many, between any hurricane here and the one in Myanmar is that: WE KNEW DAYS IF NOT WEEKS IN ADVANCE THAT THERE WAS A HURRICANE COMING. The reason we knew is because our government didn't go out of their way to hide the fact that we were about to be hit.
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BertaBurtonLake
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The difference is hurricanes happen in the US and relief comes very slowly ie: ice and water for victims being routed through several locations many hundreds of miles apart only to then languish in a warehouse somewhere for over a year before being disposed of because it takes to much money to keep it there.
Cyclones and tyhoons happen to other countries where relief is sent many thousands of miles in 24 to 48 hours, only to be snapped up by the governments who eat well and have fresh water while they allow Mother Nature to commit the genocide of heir people which was on their agenda any way. Cheaper that way, doncha know.
Berta
Cyclones and tyhoons happen to other countries where relief is sent many thousands of miles in 24 to 48 hours, only to be snapped up by the governments who eat well and have fresh water while they allow Mother Nature to commit the genocide of heir people which was on their agenda any way. Cheaper that way, doncha know.
Berta
Dennis, I agree there could have been better federal response, but at least it was on its way pretty much as fast as was physically possible. I've been through that area, two days before Katrina on one of my regular I-10 runs, and not all that long afterwards. Hard to run a truckload of aid along a road with miles of downed trees. And ya gotta get the locals to chainsaw the trees, mile by mile, to get the road opened up. The goobermint ain't got that many chainsaws.
The Burmese Bandits are stealing the aid for their own pet people, the rich folks and the army, and denying anything at all to the Joe Sixpack crowd. That's why the cartoon sticks in my craw: it's just flat-out unfair.
Anyhow, FWIW, "hurricane" comes from a Carib Indian word, and "taiphoon" comes from the Chinese. As far as type of storm they're the same thing. IIRC, the use of the word "cyclone" for storms hitting eastern India comes from the British usage. In the U.S., it's an older word for tornado.
'Rat
The Burmese Bandits are stealing the aid for their own pet people, the rich folks and the army, and denying anything at all to the Joe Sixpack crowd. That's why the cartoon sticks in my craw: it's just flat-out unfair.
Anyhow, FWIW, "hurricane" comes from a Carib Indian word, and "taiphoon" comes from the Chinese. As far as type of storm they're the same thing. IIRC, the use of the word "cyclone" for storms hitting eastern India comes from the British usage. In the U.S., it's an older word for tornado.
'Rat
From my initial impressions, I think the Myanmar government may have actually responded with a specific activity (as opposed to talking heads getting in front of a camera to shed crocodile tears about how awful the disaster is for people they didn't give a rat's ass about an hour earlier) FASTER than the US government did in Katrina. Of course, in Myanmar's case that activity was to clamp down on visas for foreigners very first thing out the gate ... but in their own warped way they did react very promptly.
Christian for Israel
Knight of Jerusalem
the difference is myanmar's situation is intentional...our gvmt's screwup in nola was simple incompetence.