How many here remember the Sheeple Stampede over canning jar lids?

Troke

Deceased
I have continually ranted that 98% of the doom/gloom predictions made on this forum will not happen unless there is a Sheeple Stampede.

A case in point. Back about 1974 (?) people suddenly got interested in home canning, I think maybe due to the Nixon inflation. Pretty soon canning jar lids were sold out. The factory (is there more than one?) fired up but could not meet the demand, demand that kept escalating because everybody was buying lids because they'd heard there was a shortage.

It got so bad, I think there were Congressional hearings on the problem. I know that state legislatures got into it.

When it comes right down to it, canning jar lids are pretty Mickey Mouse in the great scheme of things. But think what could happen if the Sheeple stampede over something real significant...like food?

The stampede over lids died a natural death because it actually affected less than 5% of the population. I am not so sure about a stampede over food which would affect everybody.
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
The stampede over lids died a natural death because it actually affected less than 5% of the population. I am not so sure about a stampede over food which would affect everybody.

Now that is a sobering thought. Gulp.
 

buttie

Veteran Member
Yup, I was 14 and my mom sent my brother and I off on our bikes on a quest for lids. We scoured the town and came up with with plenty.

Now my DW wants to know why I want to keep so many.
 

Old Futz

Inactive
Sure do. We had two small children to feed, a moderate sized garden, and picked wild berries, along with purchasing fruit from out of our area. Folks were hunting all over town for lids, snapping them up. A problem we hadn't realized before was that the rubber coating would deteriorate with age and not form the required tight seal: A lot of failed "pops"! An elderly lady in a small mountain town gave me some, which bailed us out. Moral: Rotate your non-food supplies too and periodically check their quality.
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
I buy 2 boxes of lids per week. Believe it or not, they are on my weekly addition and high priority for prep supplies.
 

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
Well, its coming around again. Just as soon as people realize they HAVE to put that garden they are starting INTO something and that would be a jar WITH a lid and a ring. They also are on my high priority list. I've been getting 4 or so packs a month the last few months. I wish they didn't cost so much.
You CAN do up jellys that are NOT low sugar with parrafin in a pinch, I did it for years and had few failed seals, experimented a lot until I knew just how much and WHEN to pour it on. I wish I had all those little old jelly jars back. but pint canning jars will do fine.
 

Running Dog

Inactive
This is interesting. My DH said something about is there a lid shortage? yesterday. I been buying a few boxes at a time, for the last month or so. I also need to get more jars.
More this, more that. I thought I was getting close to being done. Guess not.
 

Amazed

Does too have a life!
A problem we hadn't realized before was that the rubber coating would deteriorate with age

Well carp. I never thought of that. Are there visible signs or is it just hit and miss? Most of mine are from 1999. :eek:
 

blueberry

Inactive
Well carp. I never thought of that. Are there visible signs or is it just hit and miss? Most of mine are from 1999. :eek:

I have used 20+ year old lids with perfect results. Now if the coating is cracked or peeling off, then don't use them. Alos, lids that were stored in the garage for a long period of time had to be tossed.

But, the old, old lids that were stored in the house worked just fine - so keep buying those lids.
 

Fred

Middle of the road
Because I was a city boy aged 8 when this went on and didn't know anything about it, I went Googling to find out more. Here's a pretty interesting story about it from 1999 that may serve as a reminder of what can happen when inflation and gas prices start climbing.

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http://www.startribune.com/lifestyle/taste/11432746.html

Home cook: Canning memories

Canning lids are simple but clever things. Once off a jar of homemade tomato sauce or Christmas chutney, and no longer held down by their screw-top partners, they drift freely around a household, congregating in drawers and cupboard corners, or morphing into coasters, candleholders, floor protectors, plumbing parts, shims and shooting targets. They resist disposal, and they multiply.

But for a couple of summers, not so long ago, canning lids were like gold.

Shortages of dolls, but lids?
It's hard to imagine in this generation of year-round strawberries, cheap gas and 24-hour grocery stores that there was ever scarcity of anything other than Tickle Me Elmo dolls. But in the summers of 1975 and 1976, the Great Canning Lid Shortage spread over the land like a plague. History books aren't likely to make much note of it, but in those summers just after Watergate, it was front-page news. Congress investigated. It was a short-lived calamity, but it changed lives. It turned floppy-hatted gardeners into conspiracy-mongers. And it made canning people into freezing people.

The summer of 1975 was our third on a farm in southern Iowa, and our garden had expanded yet again. But under the tutelage of our landlord's mother, we'd become canners the year before. Now there was no amount of plenty we couldn't peel, chop, blanch, cram into jars and boil in the hot water bath until vacuum-sealed. That year, we had all the equipment ready to go, including lots of leftover jars and collars. All we'd need was the lids, the only equipment that has to be new.

July brought buckets of green beans. We found it strange that we had to visit a few stores and borrow from neighbors before we had enough 1-dozen boxes of lids.

'Sorry, no lids today'
When the tomatoes started coming in August, lids had vanished from the landscape. Grocery stores posted signs on their doors reading, "Sorry, no lids today." Neighbors weren't parting with any extras. There weren't any extras.

We took to calling grocery stores. Occasionally, a produce manager would tell us he was expecting a shipment overnight. The next morning we'd show up half an hour before the store opened, and find a queue of dozens of other people with the same idea.

This was six years after Americans had put a man on the moon. Why couldn't anyone manufacture enough little metal discs with rubber sealers on one side?

Of course, there was one way to get new canning lids. That was to buy new jars, which came with a matching supply of lids. But people had jars. Why pay a couple of bucks for jars you didn't need, when all you needed was lids, at 33 cents a dozen?

Well, because by now, when a stash of lids did turn up somewhere, they sometimes sold for as much as $1.19. (In 1998, that would have been an increase, over the course of a summer, from $1 to $3.61). This was only two years after the Organization of Petroleum Exporting Countries had hit on the clever idea of withholding oil supplies, doubling the price of gasoline in the United States and creating long lines at gas pumps. Consumers and Congress had a new sensitivity about cartels and pricing, and in short order executives from the big canning equipment companies were called up to Capitol Hill.

They blamed consumers. With inflation high, people had found that home gardening was a way to cut expenses. Now, the executives said, they'd been surprised by the demand for canning equipment, and just couldn't keep up. They were doing what they could.

We did what we could, too. We had friends over for meals and learned that tomatoes can be roasted, baked, stewed, stuffed, fried, creamed, juiced, sauced and dried. We turned to plastic freezer bags and containers, cleared out the freezer compartment of the refrigerator, stored what beans and corn and fruit and sauces we could and hoped we'd never lose power.

The next year we'd moved away from the farm and garden, and read in the papers that the canning lid shortage had returned by midsummer. The industry promised it would make 4 billion lids for 1977, and I suppose that was enough because I haven't heard of a shortage since.

I don't garden like that anymore, but living through any shortage makes for nervous memories. SuperValu and Cub store officials say they expect to have enough lids for the canning season this summer, which is some reassurance. But if you're shopping for canning stuff, pick up a dozen lids for me, will you? I can always use more spoon rests.
 

homemakerof6

Inactive
Maybe the rubber they used on them in the 70's was a little different than today, I don't know but I've also used lids that I've had for about 15 years and they've given me no problems and sealed everytime. I have let myself get low though,...time to pick some up !
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
LOL! I just got a bunch of boxes last Fri. I had been looking but couldn't find any because no one stocked them. I found some at China Mart.

I need some rings because I got a bunch of really nice old jars with the glass lids on Freecycle recently.
 

Taz

Deceased
You can google Mason jars and go on line and buy them by the case. I just got a case recently. I was caught in the lid mess in the 70s and have not been short since.!!
 

Tollwatch

Inactive
You can google Mason jars and go on line and buy them by the case. I just got a case recently. I was caught in the lid mess in the 70s and have not been short since.!!

What did you pay for a case of lids?
What color is the rubber?
How many are in this case?

thanks
 

spinnerholic

Inactive
Speaking of buying more rings, I've been using the same ones for almost 8 years. The difference is the way I store them.

I wash them then put them out in the sunshine, where they get hot. Then I turn them over and let them stay hot for several hours.

Then I put them in a zip lock bag, mashing out all the air I can. I put that bag inside another bag and store.

I ~might~ have to throw away 3 or 4 rings a year due to rust, but that's unusual. I've about decided that they rust due to humidity in the air. Can't think of any other reason they rust so quickly if not double bagged.
 

bluelady

Veteran Member
What's the best way to store lids? I've been storing mine on the jars, and so far haven't had any problems. But come to think of it if you open a reeaallly old sealed jar, sometimes the rubber is stuck hard to the jar. Could that be a problem? If I store them on the jar would it be better to put the lids upside down...so the rubber isn't toucing the jar? I really like the lids &rings to be with the jars so I can easily keep track of whether I have enough (the extras are in their little boxes.)
 

summerthyme

Administrator
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The *best* way is to put them in mylar bags with 02 absorbers, or otherwise vacuum seal them some way... and then store them someplace COOL.

The biggest enemy of jar lids over time is heat (dampness isn't good either). I've used 10+ year old jar lids with no problems, but I keep them in a cool basement. Those were just stored in their boxes inside Rubbermaid "sweater boxes".

Summerthyme
 

Troke

Deceased
Thanks for tracking down that article, Fred.

I have always felt that the whole episode was a claissic example of a Sheeple Stampede. The Nixon inflation got people interested in doing a little home cannng, the MSM followed up and started talking about a shortage of jar lids so people bought not only what they expected to use, but enough more just in case.

Next thing you know, the manufacturers are being cursed on the floors of state legislatures and badgered on Congression committees over their plot to force people to buy jars to get lids.

Naturally, this reinforced the stampede and lids virtually disappeared.

Actually, based on what I saw, if everybody had stuck with buying just what they needed, there might have been little problem. But everybody stampeded and bought more.

My proof? Lots of lids in garage sales over the next several years. Never saw them before and very little since.
 

Phil Ca

Inactive
I remember the shortage of the 70's but for another reason. i worked for the USTD then and a woman who was an RN and also had a masters degree wrote in to say that we were missing a sure thing because we were not collecting all the "gold" canning lids and rings. She thought that the lids were made of gold or gold plated at least. She even sent a couple "samples"" for our eddification. (All that educaton and still a DGI)

My mother and grandmother put up plenty of green beans, corn, tomatos, applesauce and peaches and pears when I was a kid. During the winter we had food stored and while we did not have much money we had home-canned food.
 
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