Is Alex Jones a liar??

fathercb

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I left the thread that posed this question? Somebody said that he acted like a fish, a carp....not sure what that was about.

I could be wrong but I think that AJ is just very very concerned about our current situtation. Does anyone know what lies AJ is telling. Please be specific. Don't just spit nonsense about he nuts, I feel, I think, etc.

Honestly, be specific and list his lies. If he is a liar, I need to know.

Thanks
 

les_stockton

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I'm not that familiar with Jones, but typically when people make a blanket statement without citing specifics, it's usually not because the person really is a liar (even though he might well be), but moreso because they don't like what he has to say.
 

Ozarkian

Veteran Member
I used to listen to Alex, and my take at this point is that he is a mix. I've seen him at the site of controversy, and heard all he has to offer in the way of conspiracy, etc.
I am not convinced he is wrongm or a liar. Maybe the ones saying he's a liar haven't been where he has.
 

Aardaerimus

Anunnaku
Hrmm

In my experience, he can be loud, passionate - and at times - a bit grating on the ears ~ but, that said, I haven't caught him lying.

Once you can train yourself not to cringe at his drama, you'll find that he has a lot of good information. Of course the typical crowd will roll their eyes, but that is just the way they're trained.

When I first heard him, I was still suffering from neo-con myopia and he made my blood boil. "What a dolt! What an idiot!"

Well... The past few years have oft shown him to be not terribly far from the mark. Maybe a comment here or there I might not agree with, but not too often.
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
We have listened to AJ for about 8 years now. He won't report it if it isn't verifiable. He backs up his news with links to the facts stated in news reports or with live guests. And he checks out the guests for verification as to their authenticity first. If something he reports is incorrect, he admits it and does a retraction ON AIR. But that doesn't happen often....

He has more guts than most anyone I know. He has been in the middle of things that would make me shake in my boots just to document it.

His demenor is rough, he talks over his guests a lot but all in all, he is usually right.
I don't doubt his guest today spoke the truth about the guys in black threatening him.
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Heard him the other night on C2C, and he really sounded like he was going off the deep end. Some of his info is sound and some it seems to push into fanaticism. He seems to be a leftist therefore being psychotic is a high probability.

I always admired his intrusion into the Bohemian Grove, not an easy task, not something that I’d do but daring to say the least. It is near impossible to prove some of his claims therefore impossible to disprove.

People generally are fairly intuitive when it comes to overly emotional characters.
 

dissimulo

Membership Revoked
I have never heard his show, but the articles posted here over the years with his name attached have not been independently falsifiable or exuding credibility. The article posted today is a good example. There is a claim that you can't independently verify. No charges brought, no government paper trail to follow. Nothing but some supposed strong-arming and vague threats by people who aren't identified other than as "feds". No apparent action taken against the "revolutionary". And, most of all, it doesn't make any sense. What would be the benefit in sending some alphabet suits to tell this guy not to lecture about the constitution to boy scouts? It is wacky and wacky is the trademark that I have come to associate with Alex Jones.
 

Camasjune

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We've been reading, listening to and watching Alex Jones for a number of years. Time has proven him correct on all of his past statements and conclusions. I've never caught him in a lie, unlike all the other internet and shortwave propheteers of Doom, who are consistently wrong yet keep on blabbing.

I'm waiting for Tommy Chong's FBI confiscated DVD to become available through Alex Jones.
 

buff

Deceased
he is on record as saying our gov committed 911...

if thats not proof, then i don't know what is...
 

Floratrek

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Agreeing with wise owl

I have been listening to Alex probably since he started national broadcasts - since
BC (Bill Cooper) . He gets a little too pasionate, and overheated, but that's when I wish everybody I know would hear him!
 

Y2kO

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What Wise Owl said.

But AJ is hard to listen to right now -- he is so anguished about what is happening to our country. He is too open, too emotional. We should all be the same. And we should be doing something about it: most especially educating ourselves and others and talking with our members of Congress about restoring our Constitution.

We all have a lot of work to do in our communities. The city/county police have now become thugs. They are supposed to be representing us and protecting us - not becoming jack-booted thugs and tasing (or killing) everything that moves. We need to work in our communities to put a stop to this. There should be major lawsuits everytime they step out of bounds. The sheriffs and mayors who perpetuate this should be voted out of office. The people need to set limits as to what is acceptable.
 
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Y2kO

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Yes he's on record that our government enabled 9/11: made it happen.

AJ has brought on dozens of guests to back that up. There are dozens of officials who know this to be the truth and who are now speaking out about it. Only people who refuse to look at the evidence are in the dark about what's happening in this country.
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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I left the thread that posed this question? Somebody said that he acted like a fish, a carp....not sure what that was about.

I could be wrong but I think that AJ is just very very concerned about our current situtation. Does anyone know what lies AJ is telling. Please be specific. Don't just spit nonsense about he nuts, I feel, I think, etc.

Honestly, be specific and list his lies. If he is a liar, I need to know.

Thanks

Point of order ....

If we already have a thread on this subject, why start another thread?

Unless I'm missing something?
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Alex Jones is a showman and a 9-11 "troofer." So are many of his guests.

He deals in innuendo and the unverifiable. He pretends to pierce the "conspiratorial veil" donned by TPTB, and does so for entertainment purposes. His whole presentation is a means to an end. The "end" is getting us to listen to his program so he will keep his advertisers. He accomplishes that well enough, I suppose.

And he is entertaining, in a vapid, nebulous "They're all out to get us!" kind of way. But make no mistake: Alex Jones himself doesn't even believe his own on-air schtick.

And thus, neither should we believe it. :D
 

Y2kO

Inactive
He deals in innuendo and the unverifiable.

Nothing could be further from the truth. Check his website, infowars.com, and you will find the documentation, verification for everything he discusses.
 

ready2go

Veteran Member
He is, without a doubt, a liar. The problem is: sometimes he's dead-on accurate as well. You just have to decide which is which.
 

Jumpy Frog

Browncoat sympathizer
He's just another Rush Limbaugh, George Snorry or "He that shall not be named" IMO. A guy who likes to hear himself on the air, and feeds just enough truth to not get buried under the BS he keeps shoveling.

He's has yet to prove, to me at least, or even to come close to proving anything of consquence. Anything, outside of MSM news bits, he has done is totally subject to conjecture and is open to being woo-woo with a nice roll of the eyes and quiet whispers of a call to the guys with the nice white coats and padded rooms.

FWIW, Last week I helped serve a restraining order on one of his fulltime Prison Planet yahoos. The guy was truely certifiable. This guy had every tape, CD, DVD that AJ ever put out. My boss wanted to call the Fed's till I explained that it all make-believe and we did still have a 1st Admendment right. Guy was a nut, had pics of the WTC in close up with people falling/jumping and arrows pointing to them with little notes like bodies don't fall like this, or Stressed steel melts at 2000+degrees, etc. :rolleyes:
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
I will give Alex Jones credit. When I used to listen to C2C years ago on the night shift, I heard Alex a few times. Now I had known of him for years before he kinda got mainstream with appearances on C2C. The fact is, most folks on C2C are there to push their book(s), movies, CDs, etc.. Alex flat out said that folks should just watch his DVDs. He said he doesn't care if you don't buy them, or if you buy them used. He said he was already fine financially. He did say that if everyone did this, then his work would be over. But he basically told people to borrow the DVDs if they had too. He was that passionate about getting his points across. To me, that does stand for something.
 

JHill

Inactive
Heard him the other night on C2C, and he really sounded like he was going off the deep end. Some of his info is sound and some it seems to push into fanaticism. He seems to be a leftist therefore being psychotic is a high probability.

I always admired his intrusion into the Bohemian Grove, not an easy task, not something that I’d do but daring to say the least. It is near impossible to prove some of his claims therefore impossible to disprove.

People generally are fairly intuitive when it comes to overly emotional characters.


AJ sounds like he was off the 'deep end' and some info pushes 'into fanaticism'?! Yet, you admire his expose' on Bohemian Grove?!

Okay, let me get this straight: A large contingent of white, 'christian', republican leaders in our gov get together each year in a private club and dress up in druid costumes, have mock sacrifices in front of a 40' tall idol of Molech at nightfall, and have a gay porn male prostitute flown in 'to service the members'. And Nixon is quoted as saying, "The Bohemian Grove, which I attend from time to time . . . It is the most faggy goddamned thing you could ever imagine with that San Francisco crowd."

BUT, AJ's other information about what is going on in our world is 'fanatical' and 'off the deep end'.

I don't know whether to laugh out loud or roll my eyes--I'll do both! :rolleyes: :lkick:
 

Brutus

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The main problem with Jones is that the info he presents can be interpreted in different ways, but his interpretation always leads to "TPTB/the Illuminati/the CFR/the Trilateral Commission/etc. are coming to get us!!!"

IMHO, *IF* he actually believes the crap that he spews, he's more stupid than he is dishonest.

:rolleyes:
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
Alex "appears" to go off the deep end with his conclusions. Conclusions such as TPTB are going to kill most of the world population, etc.

But there exists facts which are indisputable, such as all the microbiologists who have died (under suspicious circumstances) since 911. You can find info about this at the unmentionable web site.

When it comes to 911, an objective person who looks at all the evidence must conclude that the airplanes did not bring the towers down. And, since the airplanes did not bring down the towers, the question is: who did bring down the towers? And why?

I submit this: when you look at the facts objectively, his conclusions are by-and-large reasonable.
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
The main problem with Jones is that the info he presents can be interpreted in different ways, but his interpretation always leads to "TPTB/the Illuminati/the CFR/the Trilateral Commission/etc. are coming to get us!!!"

IMHO, *IF* he actually believes the crap that he spews, he's more stupid than he is dishonest.

:rolleyes:

Please remember that TPTB already control western civilization through the monetary policy of the international banking cartel. And that these people are comfortable with stealing the wealth of many hundreds of millions of people.

They are comfortable with creating war, destroying entire countries, causing the death and suffering of millions of people, and causing the poverty of hundreds of millions of people.

And they do all of this without (seemingly) a shred of guilt.

If you were one of TPTB, what would you do next? If the power to kill, destroy, maim, and starve millions of people does not satisfy you, what will satisfy you?

I submit that most of us cannot comprehend the mindset of TPTB. They use people, as we use cattle - without remorse or even a second thought.
 

BassMan

Veteran Member
His information seems to become "common knowledge" after a few years; I've seen this time and again.

While some of his more diabolical conclusions can (hopefully) never be proven, history suggests that he is more right than wrong about what tyrants will do to the "little people". Examples include slavery in Egypt and the Roman Empire, mistreatment of peasants by royalty, Hitler, Mao, Stalin, and so-on.

How many of us "little people" are really willing to stand-up, make themselves a target, and denounce the wrongs in our societies? I'm not talking about "workers rights" or "gay rights", but the systemic societal problems we face: the "hard problems".

In England and Canada, that can easily put you in jail. In the US, you could be sued, or "suicided". Is Alex a bit of a nut? Yes! What "nice calm family man" would do what he does?
 

deja

Inactive
You sure haven't read much over the years. This conclusion is NOT wrong........it's in many, many of the major documents that have been put forth by TPTB.

Start with Kissinger. Maybe even before that time period. We have a wealth of this info here on TB2k.
 

Hacker

Computer Hacking Pirate
You sure haven't read much over the years. This conclusion is NOT wrong........it's in many, many of the major documents that have been put forth by TPTB.

Start with Kissinger. Maybe even before that time period. We have a wealth of this info here on TB2k.

As an example, I remember when Kissinger predicted $200/barrel oil.
 

Camasjune

Inactive
Let's look at AJ's interview with the DC Madame earlier this year. He flat out asked her if she would commit suicide. She emphatically claimed she would not commit suicide. If she turned up dead and TPTB claimed she committed suicide, they were lying, she was murdered. She was suicided.

When Alex Jones makes a claim, no matter how outlandish, he has evidence and documentation to back it up.
 
I have to stick up for Alex...I have heard his shows for several years. He has almost a photographic memory of when things take place, or where he read what. Like Wise Owl said, he can give documentation for anything he reports. He is totally honest.

It's true that he does get emotional, at times....he has a young family, and it distresses him terribly to know what is coming for all of us. He is doing his best to try to educate people and keep the New World Order proponents at bay.

I learn so much about what is going on in the world, thanks to Alex. He is totally believable, and doing all he can to spread the world about the corruption and madness going on in this government and society in general. He's a hero to true Patriots.

One of the recent things he's reported on is when someone is tasered by the police, and dies, as a result, it's not supposed to be reported as caused by tasering. That is censoring!

Yes, he spent quite a bit of time on the alleged "susicide" of the D.C. Madam....and how she told him she would definitely not kill herself.I heard his interview with her....twice, I think, unless once was a repeat. I think not.


I challenge those of you who sneer at him to call him and challenge him on any topic. He always says he'll put any caller who wants to challenge him at the head of the line of callers. He'll tell you where he got his info. I dare you. It does help to not be confrontational, tho, no matter who you deal with, when asking any talk show host questions that you challenge. Be civil, and Alex will treat you right.
He enjoys being able to educate people who are willing to listen and have an open mind.
 

Kay

Inactive
I've listened to Alex Jones for years. He is very passionate and has a bit of a temper, but he is truly alarmed for the nation. I don't think he means to exaggerate - if he does.

He doesn't say that the government did 9-11, but elements IN the government did it. Pretty much agrees with George Noory on the subject.

If you doubt his veracity, you should watch some of his old, old videos. What he predicted did indeed happen.

He is also a Christian, he doesn't talk about it constantly, but he does mention it once in a while.
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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I don't think ANY of them are liars. Alex Jones, Steve Q., etc. I just think they tend toward being overly dramatic. But - I give them credit where it's due. They're in BUSINESS to do what they do. If they were dull and boring, they wouldn't be making money at it. I consider the entire genre to be informative, BUT - like here on TB, you've got to be able to filter out the BS from the gems.
 

Flippper

Time Traveler
Please remember that TPTB already control western civilization through the monetary policy of the international banking cartel....

They are comfortable with creating war, destroying entire countries, causing the death and suffering of millions of people, and causing the poverty of hundreds of millions of people...

I submit that most of us cannot comprehend the mindset of TPTB. They use people, as we use cattle - without remorse or even a second thought.

I agree Hacker. Two individuals very close to me gained press passes to attend the State of the World Forum in San Fransisco several years ago. In attendance were military personnel, politicians, movie stars and other famous people such as Jane Fonda, Tony Robbins, Gorby, I think Kissenger, Shirley McClain, etc. The place was packed to the rafters with your garden variety globalists. One of the speakers, Sam Keene, gave a speech where he said that 90% of the world's population needed to be eradicated. People stood up and CHEERED!!! (I hear they've since upped the ante and 99% of the human population needs to die)

If you think the Bohemian Grove is preposterous, (who knows, rich and inbred folk are kinda kinky) be aware that Prince Philip is a eugenics advocate who has on many occasions spoken of his desire to return as a "deadly virus" to thin the human population. You would think that they would be the first to set an example, yet they do not. I've read about the Marovingians (the European monarchy supposedly believe they are the descendants of Christ, thus making them 'Divine' so they have a Godly right to do as they will.) I've also heard them debunked, but in light of their attitudes I lean to think that the Marovingian belief by the monarchy is for real. The globalist way fits right in. Time will tell.

I believe the fuel hikes, the mortgage 'crisis', the looming depression, etc., are all orchestrated to force a global level playing field. It will make it easier usher in the World Government so many elitist want if everyone is broke and hungry. I think we are just kicking the edge of it right now, we will see. I think Alex is on the right track, from what little I've heard him say, but I feel he likes attention and to grandstand, nothing wrong with that.
 

BassMan

Veteran Member
I don't think ANY of them are liars. Alex Jones, Steve Q., etc. I just think they tend toward being overly dramatic. But - I give them credit where it's due. They're in BUSINESS to do what they do. If they were dull and boring, they wouldn't be making money at it. I consider the entire genre to be informative, BUT - like here on TB, you've got to be able to filter out the BS from the gems.

+1

Alex doesn't have the "perfect hair", "silver tongue", or even "nice manners", but his message (ignoring the occasional exaggeration) seems spot-on. He seems to be a very well-meaning "street-kid" with a nearly photographic memory.
 

Kay

Inactive
I don't think ANY of them are liars. Alex Jones, Steve Q., etc. I just think they tend toward being overly dramatic. But - I give them credit where it's due. They're in BUSINESS to do what they do. If they were dull and boring, they wouldn't be making money at it. I consider the entire genre to be informative, BUT - like here on TB, you've got to be able to filter out the BS from the gems.


Yes, I have caught him exaggerating before. I think they get overly dramatic because there are lulls in the news. But for the most part, you find the things they predicted happening all too often, all too soon.
 
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