Read the fine print on 'no-interest' deals at stores

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PERSONAL FINANCE
Read the fine print on 'no-interest' deals at stores
Consumers who don't pay careful attention to terms on deferred-payment plans can end up owing more than they'd bargained for.
Kathy M. Kristof

Personal Finance

May 11, 2008

When Best Buy offered Mike Walker the chance to take home a television set and make no payments, interest or otherwise, for 12 months, it seemed like a great deal.

Walker had shopped with Best Buy for years and had great faith in the retailer, so he barely glanced at the 13-page booklet that came with his new Best Buy credit card. It wasn't until a few weeks ago -- when the 12 months were nearly up -- that he found the catch.

The company had been tracking the "deferred" interest on his outstanding balance. If any balance remained on the card at the end of the 12 months, Best Buy would retroactively charge him interest for the whole year.

"I'd been slowly paying down the balance, thinking that I would owe interest on whatever amount I had left on the card at the end of the no-interest period," Walker said. "But that's not what they do. This no-interest-for-12-months isn't what it seems."

A Best Buy spokeswoman said that the company wasn't hiding anything, and that if Walker had read the paperwork he would have known what he was getting into.

Walker acknowledged that Best Buy had in fact made full disclosure, though in the fine print. The big print said "no interest," he said, and nobody called the fine print to his attention.

"They're creating a trap for people."

Consumer advocates agreed -- adding that it was a common trap.

Buy now, pay later come-ons are a popular way to get consumers to part with cash that they haven't quite earned yet, said Gail Hillebrand, staff attorney with Consumers Union in San Francisco.

"These programs pay off for the credit companies because people get stuck in them," she said. "It's very dangerous to think that you are one of the few people who won't get tricked."

American Airlines, for example, has a fly now, pay later program that offers six months of "no payments, no interest." Read the fine print and you'll find that finance charges accrue on the promotional balance at rates as high as 25.96% from Day 1. If the entire balance isn't paid in full by the end of the promotion period, the carrier's paperwork says, "finance charges for the entire promotional period will be added to your account."

The same essential pitch is made by many retailers, including Guitar Center, Sears, Office Max, Home Depot and Ethan Allen: Big letters proclaim that the credit is free, and small letters note when and how the company can take that promise away.

Even if the print were bigger, people might not understand the offer, Hillebrand said.

"It is hard to imagine a disclosure that could effectively communicate that 'this deal is not what we claim it is,' " she said. "People think that zero means zero."

The interest charges are nothing to sneeze at. The bulk of the advertised offers note that the interest, when charged, ranges from 20% to 26%, turning a $1,000 purchase into more than a $1,200 debt.

It's worth mentioning that there are numerous efforts afoot to curb what regulators are calling "abusive and misleading" credit marketing tactics. Bank, thrift and credit union regulators proposed rules recently that would bar some retroactive rate increases on credit cards and stop banks from charging customers late fees when they sent their bills out too late for the consumer to return a payment in time.

In addition, Rep. Carolyn B. Maloney (D-N.Y.), and Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.) have introduced comprehensive legislation that would ban retroactive rate increases, provide warning for future rate increases and demand better credit card billing practices and disclosures.

None of the proposals would curb the "zero interest" deals that have Walker riled.

What gets to the Los Angeles businessman most is that he so trusted Best Buy that he didn't have his guard up.

"If a credit card company approaches me, I am really leery," he said. "But when I am dealing with [what] I think is an upstanding consumer retail store, I'm not looking for a trap. When I find out they're as duplicitous as the credit card company, that's what I don't like."

Best Buy spokeswoman Kelly Groehler said she was sorry that Walker was dissatisfied but added that the terms of the deal were spelled out "in the contract."

In fact, people walking into a retail store may have to be more cautious about applying for credit than those walking into a bank or responding to a credit card solicitation by mail, said Bill Hardekopf, chief executive of credit card shopping site LowCards.com.

"Retail cards tend to be costlier than normal credit cards, even though they look great," he said.

They tend to charge higher interest rates than multipurpose cards, such as Visa and MasterCard accounts issued by banks, and have just as many fees and traps, he said. "You've got to read the disclosures. All of them. Even if you have to take them home with you to do it."

That's particularly challenging when somebody is trying to talk you into an impulse purchase, Hardekopf acknowledged. But it's far less costly than finding out later that your no-interest deal dramatically boosted the price of your TV.

What do you do if you already bought and now realize you can't repay in time?

Consider transferring the balance, said Ben Woolsey, director of marketing and consumer search at CreditCards.com. Some card companies offer promotional deals in which they don't charge for balance transfers -- and they might provide a promotional rate for a set time too, making it easier to repay the balance.

But before you switch, read the fine print.

"You need to be cautious and suspicious of everything," Hardekopf warned
 

eens

Nuns with Guns
Best Buy screwed me with one of these. I had 1 year no interest. Pay a payment each month, but no interest. I paid it off in the last month of the allotted year BUT they charged me all of the interest because my monthly payment cycle was later than the date I bought what ever it was I bought.

SO, even though I paid it on time they tricked me because the date I should have paid it off was sooner than the regular payment. I was really po'd and canceled my account. There was nothing I could do about it.

I guess I should have read the fine print. :tng:
 

TECH32

Inactive
I got a Home Depot credit card because of a 15% discount AND no interest for a year on purchases made when you open the card (we were making a large purchase and we intended to pay it off immediately). Well, I didn't pay attention to the fact that no bills from HD ever showed up (I actually assumed my wife had paid it off).

13 months later they start calling FIVE times in a single day demanding to paid, treating us like deadbeats. When I got on the phone with them I figured out that THEY had entered the wrong address into their computer and that's why we never saw a bill. Not only were they trying to take back the 15% discount, they were slapping a 27% charge on the whole thing! It was like $600 more than we had agreed to pay.

I said "you mean our bills have been coming back to you for a year, and now that the year is up, you didn't seem to have any problem tracking us down. Tell me what the original amount I owe is INCLUDING the discount, and I'll get a check out to you tomorrow". After some back and forth (they wanted their interest even though the mistake was theirs!) they agreed and I sent the check.

The HD credit card got cut up and I haven't been back since.
 

ichoric

Senior Member
Puhlease, the camera my dh bought FIVE YEARS AGO had the same terms. People need to read the fine print - there is no excuse.

Exactly. If a customer is given 13 pages and doesn't read them...it's his fault. If a customer is given 13 pages and says "eh, nevermind," that's good, too. But given 13 pages and obviously not reading anything...while signing a binding contract to what those 13 pages state...just plain stupid.
 

BH

. . . .
Nothing is given away 'free' today. I stay away from store cards all together and have for years. Anything that comes with a 13 page contract (that's almost half the size of the paperwork needed to buy a house) has to be absolutely full of attached strings. I wouldn't read it, I would take one look at the 'thickness' and walk away....
 

big_sarge

Inactive
Take some personal responsibility people.

This is nothing new. If you enter into a contract without reading it then...shame on you.

I will echo what others have said...Nothing is free. A business will always be making money somehow...if they didn't they wouldn't last very long.
 

Thunderbird

Veteran Member
I refuse to do business with companies that make offers like this, it is an obvious trap. Infers dishonesty by the business at all levels.
 

chickenrancher

Veteran Member
We often buy on the "no payment for 6m-1yr" plans. But...we KNOW it has to be paid off in time or the interest is back charged. It really is FREE, if you do it right (Dave Ramsey, forgive me!). This is assuming of course, that what you buy is realy necessary and not an impulse buy.

This has been going on for years, so why are people surprised when they don't get it paid for, and they have to pay extra interest??

cr
 

Phil Ca

Inactive
We lost our five-figure per month income, business just six years ago this June and ended up having to sell our home of 25 years to pay the mortgage and some taxes. We have not had a credit card since, and do not want one. When I go in a store to buy something and the clerk smiles and say sweetly, " If you put that on your store (insert name here) card you receive an exxra 10%or15% off today! " Sometimes they just ask if you will be putting this purchase on your creditcard and my answer is always NO. They are instructed to do that and like good little automatons they do it. The only store I go to regularly is Costco for food and supplies and Walgreens and Longs Drugs for sale items. Occasionaly an auto supply store and a Macy*s for a shirt or underwear on sale.

The word about those special No Interest for 6 months or a year, or even two is this.

TANSTAAFL and Caveat Emptor, and don't forget this Cash is King, although when the swipe cards are everywhere you may feel silly paying in cash. I will feel silly than.
 
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don24mac

Veteran Member
...and don't forget this Cash is King, although when the swipe cards are everywhere you may feel silly paying in cash. I will feel silly than.

Yes, cash IS king. I will never feel "silly" for using it. That's those credit card commercials that are promoting just that and want you to feel "silly" so you'll use their card and pay them interest. In fact, I make it a point to take my time, go through my pockets and count out exact change for my purchases. I do this in all stores. Grocery, big box, it doesn't matter. It keeps my pockets lighter from excessive change, too.
 

Topusaret

Deceased
The Dell I am typing on was bought with "no interest for 18 months". After I received and paid the first bill from Dell, I simply divided the balance remaining by 16 months (giving me a one month cushion if something went wrong), and rounded that up to the the next $10, paid that amount, and went on my merry way. The last bill was two months before the end of the 18 months, and I got a sweet deal, since Dell also gave me four years in-home warranty for free to boot. Considering that when I called to order the configuration I had created on their website and was likely just going to pay cash at that price, I'm quite happy. I presume Dell is too, but don't really care.
 

pixmo

Bucktoothed feline member
Yeah, I'll be one of those knuckle-scraping neanderthals that will continue to use cash if I need to walk into a store.

The card companies really want you to feel like a loser when you whip out the cash. Heck, I bought a cement mixer last week and the cashier started spewing that crap on me regarding their cards.

I just rolled my eyes, opened my wallet, pulled out a couple of 100s, and nonchalantly said, "HERE..." while she was waiting for an answer to her pitch.

That lady's eyes nearly popped out of her sockets, shut right up and took my "outdated" currency, LOL.

And she gave me correct change quicker than the time it takes to process a credit card request.
 

Bad Hand

Veteran Member
Don instead of counting out all my change when I buy something I will take the change home and up it in our change bucket then once a month we roll the change in a couple of months of doing this we will have around $100 saved. You aren't doing yourself any favors.
 

Turnpike Jim

Inactive
Just like a credit card, it is a tool to be respected and used correctly. If not, it can and will hurt you. Some people just don't have the discipline to use them correctly. these are the same people who don't read contracts, were swept up in the sub-prime era, and will always blame someone else for their mistakes.

No interest for X amount of time, credit cards, and ARM's are all good ways to save ton's of money. But they are not for everyone. Education is the key.

Jim
 

Dennis Olson

Chief Curmudgeon
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This is all standard practice for the "no interest for xxx months" deals these days. You MUST pay off the entire balance within the time period or be charged retroactive intereste on the entire balance. Some places require a monthly payment, while some don't. But regardless, you have to have it all paid off by the time the clock strikes 12.
 
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