A Pill in Time

Reasonable Rascal

Has No Life - Lives on TB
A PILL IN TIME

You never know when having a couple bottles of the right medication on hand might be your salvation. And no, this is not a diatribe on why to self-medicate. But it is an observation on why making simple preparations can prove useful at times, or even a lifesaver.

I've made it a personal policy to keep on hand what I can legitimately acquire in the way of various medications, never tossing out a partial prescription when the doc changes one for another or the need for the medication ceases to be - an example of which would be left over oral narcotics such as Vicodin or Darvocet prescribed for an injury or dental procedure. Over the years they occasionally come in handy, as when a dental abscess strikes during the night on a weekend. I know the drill well by now; manage the pain with the least analgesic that will provide relief – starting with Ibuprofen and working up only if necessary – and start taking one of 2 or 3 appropriate antibiotics I keep on hand. I won’t bore you with details but that often means 500 mg of something like Penicillin or Ampicillin 4 times a day until I can see the dentist for further work. In other words it may take more than a bare handful of pills, never mind knowing what is likely to work versus what is a wasted effort.

Having access to the Mexican farmacias on occasion I tend to keep the medicine chest better stocked than in years past. The lovely bride keeps a several month stock of thyroid medication on hand rather than run to the local pharmacy every 30 days for a new (and much more expensive) supply.

Likewise I have kept around Albuterol inhalers and nebulizer dose units against a rainy day. Some of you may know that such a rainy day struck last December, and again just last month in April. Simple things can be a lifesaver.

More recently it was the phone call in the middle of the night. Okay, so it was before 1 AM. I was in bed already and trying to sleep so that should count for something.

One of my co-workers called about a patient I had admitted the night before when I last worked. As soon as I hear the words out of her mouth I’m thinking uh oh, what’d I miss on the paperwork that has someone riled up? And I had even stayed over an extra hour to complete it so that Day Shift nurse wouldn’t have to.

No, it wasn’t anything like that. The patient had been transferred from our floor Medical-Surgical (also sometimes called Acute Care) to the Telemetry floor. There the nurse to patient ratio is higher and all patients have their heart monitored via a wireless sending device.

By the time of the call though the patient was no longer on the Telemetry floor but rather now they were in Intensive Care. Rut row, Raggy (pop culture reference). That’s why my friend was calling.

The patient had been diagnosed now with bacterial meningitis. That explained the altered mental status that had been reported for a couple days prior to his admission. The admitting diagnosis was “fever.” That’s all, just fever. And not too high, maybe 102 degrees on the Fahrenheit scale. By the time the patient reached me a single dose of Acetaminophen had dropped it down to normal range. The admitting doc had called for no infectious disease precautions and there was nothing in his presentation that indicated such was necessary. Urinary and related infections are very common reasons for admission and altered mental status (i.e. “confusion”) is very often the reason help was sought to begin with. Often that is the only sign that anything is wrong with the patient; even fever does not always accompany the infection.

So, to get to the point of this missive I was told that all staff that had been in contact with the patient was recommended to have a prophylactic (preventative) dose of antibiotic within 24 hours of initial exposure. Rocephin was the drug of choice but the routes there are either IV or IM injection. Rocephin I do keep on hand in limited quantity but the thought of trying to twist around in order to poke myself in the derriere, or to have my untrained (insofar as using that particular site, i.e. the gluteus maximus ouchus) lovely bride perform the deed for me was rather unappealing.

The alternative medication of choice was Ciprofloxacin 500 mg by mouth taken as a one-time dose. Said medication I also happen to keep a bottle of in the medicine cabinet, fresh, in date and unopened, just in case.

Or, assuming I had neither medication already stashed away just drive out to the local ER.

So there you have it. I had 3 choices in all.

1) Dig around until I can find my very modest stash of injectable Rocephin and play the part of a martyr (there is a reason they mix that stuff with Lidocaine - it HURTS),

2) Take the blue and white capsule

3) Or get myself dressed and drive 8 miles to the hospital, get them to jump me ahead of the line at the ER waiting room and to issue me the required medication so I could have it within the 24 hour exposure window. And in the latter instance you know darn well some malicious ER doc or PA-C would go with the first drug of choice and cause me to limp out of there.

Yeah, I’m with you. I took the fresh, sealed, well within date bottle of blue and white capsules out of the cabinet, opened it and took the called for dose. Now that the seal has been broken it will greatly shorten the remaining shelf life of the other 99 capsules left behind, and ultimately cost me about $25 but such is life. It beats the other alternatives, especially the one not heretofore mentioned – my exposure goes untreated, I develop bacterial meningitis, expose my lovely bride and we both end up playing the A. recover, B. recover but end up gorked in the head, C. or just outright die roulette game.

Yeah verily, sometimes a dollar or two spent ahead of time can pay out huge dividends in ways that you least expect. And here I thought I was just putting that bottle away in case of a stubborn urinary tract infection sometime in the future.

RR
 

Dixielee

Veteran Member
I have had to take one of my own stashed Cipro several times in the past several years for the same reason, exposure to meningitis. All three times I would have had to drive 30 miles to the hospital "employee health" office which is only open bankers hours (I was working nights). I just told them my PCP gave me a Rx for one and that satisfied their follow-up paperwork.

It pays for itself over and over and over again to keep ahead on necessities. I am a big fan of this Indian website, and have purchased a lot of these items there.
http://www.alldaychemist.com

Cheap, fast, and for those who don't trust foreign pharmacies, the thyroid meds I get from them are sealed bottles of 100, manufacured by GlaxoSmithKlein with distant expiration dates.
 

RCSAR

Veteran Member
self-medicate....Some try to make it sound like a bad thing.

We all self-medicate when we take a aspirin or tylenol or sudafed. In mexico you go the pharmacy and buy it off the shelf.

I think self-medicate is a code word for the Dr not getting a cut of the $$ spent.
 
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summerthyme

Administrator
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Yep.. BTDT, and having your own (and enough knowledge to use it safely... and when you're out of your league) is, as they say in the commercial... PRICELESS.

Now... that "seal" you broke isn't all that great to start with, generally.

Find a smallish canning jar, put the leftover pills inside (if possible, leave them in their bottle, but leave the cap off... this provides the "bonafides" of what they are, just in case). Use an oxygen absorber (in a pinch, those "hand warmers" they sell in sporting goods stores and WalMart, etc will work), put a properly treated canning jar lid (simmered or whatever the directions on your particular brand of lids says) and jar ring... and then stash the jar in a cool, DARK place. (or put it in a paper bag or box... anything to exclude the light.

Absent an O2 absorber, use your vacuum sealer.

At that point, the expected life should be the same (or longer) than it was when you had a sealed bottle from the manufacturer.

Summerthyme
 

RCSAR

Veteran Member
I saw a girl once that tried to seal some vitamin capsules in a mason jar.

Pills work well in a vacuum sealer but not capsules.

I store all mine in the freezer. Let the bottle come to room temp before opening though. You can add at least 10 years on the life of most drugs and vitamins if they are stored frozen. Some store 30+ years frozen.
Some can be damaged by freezing like injectables.

Dry Dark and Cool is the rule.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
I'm gonna tap this to the top, becasue I don't think it got played enough, plus to add a tad bit about knowing what is going on with what you may or may not be taking.


Doc wants to start me on Lotensin because I can't get my activity level up to a theraputic level for my pressure to drop, what with my not being able to walk at the level I need in order to work the correct magic....( the REAL issue is and this is a hoot, I REALLY CAN'T TIE MY SHOES!!! Not with the shoulder at it's current healing stage....walking at speed in sandals is SO out....I'm a blister wimp...)

Well in chatting with the pharmacist she made a passing comment to NSAIDS and Lotensin....

I didn't think much of it until I actually hunted things down... found that NSAIDS aer NOT recommended with Lotensin (or any ACE inhibitor for that matter)...

Now, rewind back 3 years + .... I was on a pair of lipid drugs and Prinivil (another ACE inhibitor).

Interesting thing was that AT THE TIME I wasn't considering the NSAID issue and used ibuprophen fairly often (ignorance=bliss?? I dunno nobody mentioned it at the time). Current doc's nurse commented that Ibu sometimes enhances ACE inhibitors and aspirin decreases the effect....(hmmmmm)...

Anyhow we will see how the doc resolves this (trying to avoid the diuretic approach,,, have enough issues with fluid ballance). THis is only an issue as I am working on weaning myself from the narcs to OTC and NSAIDS are where it's at right now (No way to wean from a high dose Tyenol + drug to just high dose Tylenol...I REALLY DO happen to like my liver this week...) Though the weaning is taking a tad longer than I want it to, did something to the shoulder last week which makes things ahhh MUCH more uncomfortable than they were a week before...

But the take home lesson is DO the research so you know what is and isn't indicated. (oh and on a side note, keep yer own frellin records that aren't gonna go away when you dump a hard drive....so you don't have to search some old postings on some Internet forum to find out presicely what you were taking 2-3-4 years ago...)
 
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