Americans Sell Possessions to Make Ends Meet

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Americans unload prized belongings to make ends meet By ANNE D'INNOCENZIO, AP Business Writer
Tue Apr 29, 6:04 PM ET

NEW YORK - The for-sale listings on the online hub Craigslist come with plaintive notices, like the one from the teenager in Georgia who said her mother lost her job and pleaded, "Please buy anything you can to help out."

Or the seller in Milwaukee who wrote in one post of needing to pay bills — and put a diamond engagement ring up for bids to do it.

Struggling with mounting debt and rising prices, faced with the toughest economic times since the early 1990s, Americans are selling prized possessions online and at flea markets at alarming rates.

To meet higher gas, food and prescription drug bills, they are selling off grandmother's dishes and their own belongings. Some of the household purging has been extremely painful — families forced to part with heirlooms.

"This is not about downsizing. It's about needing gas money," said Nancy Baughman, founder of eBizAuctions, an online auction service she runs out of her garage in Raleigh, N.C. One former affluent customer is now unemployed and had to unload Hermes leather jackets and Versace jeans and silk shirts.

At Craigslist, which has become a kind of online flea market for the world, the number of for-sale listings has soared 70 percent since last July. In March, the number of listings more than doubled to almost 15 million from the year-ago period.

Craigslist CEO Jeff Buckmaster acknowledged the increasing popularity of selling all sort of items on the Web, but said the rate of growth is "moving above the usual trend line." He said he was amazed at the desperate tone in some ads.

In Daleville, Ala., Ellona Bateman-Lee has turned to eBay and flea markets to empty her three-bedroom mobile home of DVDs, VCRs, stereos and televisions.

She said she needs the cash to help pay for soaring food and utility bills and mounting health care expenses since her husband, Bob, suffered an electric shock on the job as a dump truck driver in 2006 and is now disabled.

Among her most painful sales: her grandmother's teakettle. She sold it for $6 on eBay.

"My grandmother raised me, so it hurt," she said. "We've had bouts here and there, but we always got by. This time it's different."

Economists say it is difficult to compare the selling trend with other tough times because the Internet, only in wide use since the mid-1990s, has made it much easier to unload goods than, say, at pawn shops.

But clearly, cash-strapped people are selling their belongings at bargain prices, with a flood of listings for secondhand cars, clothing and furniture hitting the market in recent months, particularly since January.

Earlier this decade, people tapped their inflated home equity and credit cards to fuel a buying binge. Now, slumping home values and a credit crisis have sapped sources of cash.

Meanwhile, soaring gas and food prices haven't kept pace with meager wage growth. Gas prices have already hit $4 per gallon in some places, and that could become more widespread this summer. The weakening job market is another big worry.

Christine Hadley, a 53-year-old registered nurse from Reading, Pa., says she used to be "a clotheshorse," splurging on pricey Dooney & Bourke handbags. But her live-in boyfriend left last year, and she has had trouble finding a job.

Piles of unpaid bills forced her to sell more than 80 items, including the handbags, which went for more than $1,000 on a site called AuctionPal.com. Now, except for some artwork and threadbare furniture, her house is looking sparse.

"I need the money for essentials — to pay my bills and to eat," Hadley said.

At AuctionPal.com, which helps novices sell things online, for-sale listings rose 66 percent from February to March, much faster than the 25 percent to 30 percent average monthly pace since the company was formed in September, CEO Maureen Ellenberger said. She said she was surprised to see that most of her clients desperately needed to sell items to raise cash.

For LiveDeal.com, a classifieds and business directory site, for-sale listings for January through March rose 10 percent from the previous year.

"We can definitely detect economic stress on the part of the consumer," said John Raven, the site's chief operating officer.

On Craigslist, Buckmaster said, three of the four fastest-growing for-sale categories are tied to gas — recreational vehicles like campers and trailers, cars and trucks, and boats.

Raven noted more and more listings for furniture, particularly in areas around Miami and Las Vegas and other regions hardest hit by the housing crisis.

Baughman, who runs eBizAuctions, said that over the past four months she's been working with mostly desperate sellers instead of mainly casual ones. Most are middle-class customers who can't pay their bills and now want to be paid up front for the items instead of waiting until they are sold, she said.

The trend may be hurting secondhand stores too. Donations to the Salvation Army were down 20 percent in the January-to-March period. George Hood, the charity's national community relations and development secretary, said that was probably partly because people were selling their belongings instead.

And secondhand buyers want better deals now as well, driving prices down. Secondhand merchandise online is going for 25 to 35 percent below what it commanded a year ago, estimated Brian Riley, senior analyst at research firm The TowerGroup.

"It won't hit the saturation point until the (economy) hits the bottom and right now, we don't know when that is," he said.

In Alabama, Bateman-Lee said that she only received $30 for her TV and $45 for her DVD player at a local flea market. She doesn't have too much left to sell, but she's going back to "sort through more things."

Her $30 water bill is due this week.
 

Bret4207

Senior Member
Too many, like myself, have been living beyond our means. Now we're paying the price. This is surprising somehow?
 

brokenwings

Veteran Member
Is that an auction site that charges you so they can sell your items on E-Bay??? Why not sell them yourself and get all the profits? Sounds like they are promoting the site.

I search the sale ads on Craigs list every day and I have yet to see any more stuff than usual for sale, and NO good deals! I am watching for a good deal on a diamond ring and so far, no go.

Our stores are still packed with people buying, buying buying. The restaurants are still packed and it is still hard to find a table on a Friday night. I guess it hasn't hit here as hard as other places. Can't imagine how people are making ends meet now with the high gas prices, but I don't see any changes except Wal-Mart not stocking their shelves as full. And they are still crawling with people so they are busy too.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I've been saying the following for over a year now...

Preppers need to unload anything and everything they own that is not essential or does not either make them $ or save them $, while they can still get a good price for it before everybody begins to dump them.

A few toys I'd reluctantly released, I consoled myself with remembering that I'll be able to buy back bigger, better, later, and so much more cheaper, if I still even want to then.

Most all fellow Americans will be forced to try and liquidate most everything, too, eventually, but when they do, it'll be in a mass panic and far past any hope of ever getting anywhere near a fair price then, as everybody else will also be dumping everything at the same time, too. They will all be desperately trying to scrape together enough funds to cover their next insurance, tax, or mortgage payment to keep a roof over their heads.

This will be the coming shocking cover photo's of our national magazines and TV exposes, one of row upon row of suburban houses with tons of stuff (second cars, boats, jet-ski's, 4-wheelers, big screen TV's, exercise equip, etc.) piled up out front all with for-sale signs, though with nothing much at all selling; "The Great American Garage Sale!" they'll all sadly document and proclaim.

Bottom Line: Sell now everything that does not sustain life or save money or make money, and do it while you can still get a fair price for it. And, with that money, then pay down debt and/or buy what preps truly will sustain your family or save/make you money during the 'coming to a town near you' national economic/financial/monetary crisis.

Panic Early, Beat The Rush!

- Shane
 

Perpetuity

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Shane, good advice that should be well taken. And I'd like to add, once the extra "stuff" is jetisoned, don't replace it with other "stuff" that you don't need. Our mentalities of buying "stuff" is one of the factors that has gotten us into the mess we're in now, and now that we're pulling back on buying, it's been a double whammy to the economy. We as a country really need to loose the term "consumer" when it comes to us as a country. Saving is always, always prudent compared to consuming.

On a side note, buy a quality item when you need something, even if it does cost a little more. And remember, quality doesn't always mean expensive...just do your homework and do some research when you do need to buy something. You'll probably save money down the road by not having to replace it sooner, and quality never goes out of style.;) Buy it for quality, buy it for life, because most of the things we use in everyday life make lousy investments that we can't make money on later or even recoup what we spent originally, like electronics, clothes, and appliances. That's why alot of us here are still using our parents or grandparents cast iron cookware, furniture, guns, etc. Quality tends to last. And "needs" and "wants" are two totally separate beasts.

Looking at the original post, I gotta wonder why some of the people interviewed really felt the need to have multiple expensive purses, tons of clothes and multiple items of the same electronics. I mean, how many DVD players do you really need? Yeah, they paid their money for them, and now they have to sell them on the cheap...see what I mean by a lousy investment?;) But for the ones that were frugal and faced a personal financial tragedy, yeah, I feel for them. It never feels good to be in that situation and it seems like you'll never get out of it. But had some of these people saved instead of buying, their situations may be a little bit different now. Money does not burn holes in pockets, just the wanting to spend it.;)
 

Prepare

Contributing Member
Doing this in FLA

I visited Walt Disney World in FLA in January 2008. A waitress at one of the restaurants mentioned that things were tough in Orlando, and that the newspaper is full of ads with people selling off their "toys" as she put it. ATVs, water craft, etc.
 

rocco94

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In our area it is the giant RV's that cost more than the house I live in. They are parked in the front lawn with the for Sale sign in the windshield. :shk:
 

kozanne

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I'm not personally having tough times financially [thanks be to God for His mercy], but I do have family heirlooms I plan on selling relatively soon. Reason being, I think it far more important to get rid of the excess weight and use the proceeds to bug out of current location.

But I have in the past had to sell stuff to make ends meet. It's not easy, but I was grateful I had stuff to sell in the first place.

We need to get a lot lighter if we're going to get where we need to be.....can't move if you've got a 1,000 pound weight on your back. It's just stuff. It's just stuff.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
In our area it is the giant RV's that cost more than the house I live in. They are parked in the front lawn with the for Sale sign in the windshield. :shk:
Funny thing is, depending on one's situation, especially if looking to downsize in a big way, like selling your house, and/or becoming more mobile, it might be worth keeping an eye out for some of those coming super-cheap distress sales of RV's or live-a-board sized boats.

Some of those who will lose their homes regardless of everything they sell might wish then that they still had their RV or big boat then to live in, that you are now living in, and that you'd bought from them earlier for pennies on the dollars.

When they sold it they never could imagine, or admit to themselves or family, that things would ever get so bad they'd lose their house and have to live in their RV full-time for who knows how long.

- Shane
 

ittybit

Inactive
Was at a local coin/stamp/collectibles store the other day in the middle of the day. Three older ladies were there getting a read on what their coins would net them. I'm sure it was just a few in small purses. Things getting a bit tight out there and folks are looking around at what can ease the pinch in the short term.
 

georgia101

Veteran Member
Around here you can find boats, RV's, jet ski's and all of the rest up for sale by the side of the road. It's really sad to see.
 

atlan

Membership Revoked
It was just reported that our economy is not in recession after posting a .6% growth rate. It is good to hear we are muddling through. Keep the faith.
 

Ravekid

Veteran Member
I am off loading a tactical vest and left hand thigh holster on E-Bay. It is not that I need the money, but that I have had both for years and will likely never use them. While they do offer a prep advantage, the simple fact is that I have plenty of holsters for the one handgun I own, a Glock 22. I have so many holsters, and I am right handed, so it doesn't bother me to ditch this one holster. And the tactical vest I am selling is actually going to be used to buy a Molle style vest. I also have seen a knock-off brand vest at other on-line retailers for about $20 cheaper than the one I am selling. Granted, it may be junk that won't hold up for a long time, but the fact is that I will only need a vest like that if the country collapses and there are riots and stuff going on. So a cheaper vest may last just long enough.

I am actually wonder if I shouldn't have given away five bags of clothing to Goodwill recently. I might have been able to sell some at a garage sale and made $20-$40.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
I've actually been purchasing things like a good bread maker, a good ice cream maker, etc., because I'm tired of paying exhorbitant prices for a few things I enjoy.

I figure the $50.00 for an ice cream maker will save me a lot of bucks overall. Right now 1/2 gal. costs $6.00 and it's full of chemicals.

I don't eat much in the way of sugar, but as time get harder I'd like to be able to have some treats I do like.

Same with breads. It's worth it to have a really good bread maker, cause I've already seen "good" breads over $5.00 a loaf.

To get rid of things that will actually save you money in the long run seems dumb. Me thinks some of those stories for ebay, craigs list, and others, may have different reasons they are selling everything for a few bucks, than what the sellers are saying. Sometimes it's the need for drugs and alcohol.

Making people feel sorry for them is a quick way to sell stuff, not to mention where did they get VCR's (plural), TV's (plural) etc.

Don't meanto sound pessimistic, but these are "watch your back" times.
 

Deena in GA

Administrator
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We're seeing more homes, cars, boats, 4-wheelers, etc for sale then we've ever seen before. More of them pop up along the roads every day.

A friend of mine who works at a convenience store/gas station said that they're getting a lot of people coming in lately who are paying for their gas with change. Lots and lots of change. Seems that people are really scraping bottom to pay for gas.
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Lots and lots of change. Seems that people are really scraping bottom to pay for gas.
That's when and where you'll often see a lot of pre-65 silver quarters and dimes show up, too, if looking for them.

If you ever get change at a store and find one in it, go right back in and get as much of their change as you can, as often there's more where that came from.

Silver quarter is worth almost $3.00 right now...
http://www.coinflation.com/

- Shane
 

Wombatcat

Bibliophile
I know this is a little judgmental, but when I read things like this, I tend to think in terms of "this is not the only time in history that the economy has floundered. It shocks me that people, and the MSM seem so surprised at stories like this. When times get tough, people sell stuff. That's how it's always been. So what's different now than it was in 2001--maybe I've got amnesia, but I don't recall any stories on MSM saying "Laid off airline workers selling belongings to get by" or whatever. Is it because everyone was expecting the "easy" times to go on forever that we are surprised now?
And also, chances are, this is the beginning of the "floundering", not the end. If people are already scraping the bottom of the barrel now, digging up change to pay for gas and quitting their jobs because they can't afford to drive there or selling their heirlooms to get by, a year from now, when things are worse, what on earth are they going to do???? :confused:

And as to gas prices causing people to be so hard up: I have a 180 mile round trip commute. If anyone should be scraping the bottom of the barrel, it should be people like me. Especially since the budget is already tight. But here's the math: It used to cost me $4 to get home from work. So it was an $8 round trip. Now it costs about $12, or a $24 round trip. Yes, it's quite a jump. But I make more than minimum wage. And while I don't like paying it, I'm not thinking about quitting my job any time soon, just because it's more expensive to get to work.

Now, my commute is longer than almost everyone's. I think an average commute might be maybe (for sake of easy math) 30 miles round trip, or 1/3 of what I have. So that means, that their "bump" in gas expense is a lot less than my $16 additional per work day. I am having a tough time understanding why people are having such a tough time paying for this, unless they have those massive SUV's that get 5 mpg or something....I mean, I understand that the price of gas is impacting everything right now, but if we are talking specifically about how much it costs to put gas in the tank, if people are so broke that they can't afford to pay $8 to get to work and back (that's about $4 each way, for the math impaired, still not much more than bus fare, really) then people have really been a lot stupider than I ever imagined.

It's scary.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
My first job was a summer job as a medical records file clerk at big Charity Hospital in New Orleans. I was still in high school.


I will never forget what I read in one of the charts that I encountered in that job.


The chart belonged to an elderly woman, in her 70's I think.


She came in to one of the outpatient clinics at Charity for medical care. After she saw the doctor, but before she could leave the floor where she was treated, she fainted.


Upon investigation, they found out that she had sold everything she had to help pay for her food and her medication, and after she sold her last possession - a black and white TV -- she had nothing left to sell. So she was going without food to pay for her heart medicine. She fainted due to lack of food.


The doctor ordered her some peanut butter sandwiches and milk from the cafeteria -- I mean, he put in a medical order for this food. That is why it was on her medical chart.


And I, a 16 year old youth with my entire life ahead of me, well, I remember that lady well.


I don't know what happened to her. I only read what was on her chart that day.


But selling possessions in order to eat is nothing new.


God bless each and every one who falls to that point...
 

lectrickitty

Great Great Grandma!
I can't imagine people selling off family heirlooms. I'd be sick if I had to part with any of the items I have that belonged to my grandparents and great grandparents.

I haven't seen much for sale around here. A couple of huge RV's is about all. I've been looking for a good buy on some gently used living room furniture for a couple of years, haven't found any yet. I'm tired of looking at a big empty room (with buckets of wheat stacked in the corner! LOL) I'm remodeling the place so people automaticly think they are buckets of paint/mud/etc. :)
 

blindhog

Flats Captain
What IS different this time is we have lost the manufacturing mechanism that always supported a rebound.

Think about it. Chiquita.
 

OldMan

Candy’s dandy, but a back rub is quicker.
Exactly!! Ross Perot warned us ....

et2 ... yes indeedy!!! Perot had vision, and was destroyed politically because of it. One very effective tactic used to destroy him was to have the MSM make fun of his looks. Now days one needs to be "pretty" to be a sucessful politician.

:ld: OldMan :ld:
 

pixmo

Bucktoothed feline member
I know this is a little judgmental, but when I read things like this, I tend to think in terms of "this is not the only time in history that the economy has floundered. It shocks me that people, and the MSM seem so surprised at stories like this. When times get tough, people sell stuff. That's how it's always been. So what's different now than it was in 2001--maybe I've got amnesia, but I don't recall any stories on MSM saying "Laid off airline workers selling belongings to get by" or whatever. Is it because everyone was expecting the "easy" times to go on forever that we are surprised now?

I agree and am amazed at the naivete of those who expect the good times to never end...that "No, it won't happen again, this time it's different...the government has controls in place, we have the FDIC, yadda, yadda yadda..."

Everything is cyclical. History doesn't exactly repeat itself, but it seems to rhyme...economies and empires rise and fall, plain and simple.

Humans are flawed, so anything that they design has the tendency to have flaws and be fallible as well.
 

Troke

Deceased
"...Christine Hadley, a 53-year-old registered nurse from Reading, Pa., says she used to be "a clotheshorse," splurging on pricey Dooney & Bourke handbags. But her live-in boyfriend left last year, and she has had trouble finding a job..."

Hmmm! Most places a registered nurse dare not walk past a hospital for fear of being kidnapped into the place. There must be more to this story.

As for Perot, his vision was to keep Bush from having a 2nd term. And he was successful. As for the sucking sound, we should have Americans moving south following all those good jobs that left here based on Perot's vision. Instead we got Mexicans moving up here.

Jobs must have gone elsewhere.

BTW, I think Perot's company finally outsourced too. Found cheaper labor somewhere else, although I don't know if he was any longer associated with it at the time.
 

fruit loop

Inactive
I just do not understand how people are losing their homes.

I mean, if you lose your job and then can't pay, that makes sense.

That is not what I see happening.....I see people losing their homes because they're trying to make credit card payments, more than one vehicle, and are still purchasing CRAP.

Let VISA go! Forget the credit cards! Let them repo one of your cars! So what if it ruins your credit for seven years? You'll still have a place to live at the end of it that is a tangible asset. Let everything else go!

BUT KEEP YOUR HOUSE!
 

LoupGarou

Ancient Fuzzball
I just do not understand how people are losing their homes.

I mean, if you lose your job and then can't pay, that makes sense.

That is not what I see happening.....I see people losing their homes because they're trying to make credit card payments, more than one vehicle, and are still purchasing CRAP.

Let VISA go! Forget the credit cards! Let them repo one of your cars! So what if it ruins your credit for seven years? You'll still have a place to live at the end of it that is a tangible asset. Let everything else go!

BUT KEEP YOUR HOUSE!

A lot of the foreclosures are due to ARMs doing their final reset. All of those people that "bought beyond their means" or were involved in the "house flipping" of the 90s and early 2000s are now caught between a rock and a hard place. Three people I know will be out of their houses by August, two with mortgage payment over $5,000 on a house that is now worth 60% of what it was when they bought it. One has family in the area that can take them in (including their three kids), the other two have no place to go locally, and both have a business that is in decline since it too is tied to the housing sector. It will be a very cold winter living in your car with no heat, no income, and two kids. (And they were all told to prep, and had AMPLE heads up about the whole thing happening before 2009. And not JUST by me.)

The trouble with playing the "making money on other people's money game" is that it is a LOT like musical chairs. Once the music stops, you have to be the first to grab whatever is stable enough to hold you up until the music restarts. The difference now, is that the CD player is broken, a new one is on order from china, but they are no longer taking FRNs, and somebody has stolen 75% of the chairs while everybody was up doing the "money shuffle"...

Loup
 

Primed

Inactive
It didn't take long to convince my husband to sell the boat we bought early last year (we bought it JUST before we really started to "get it" prep-wise). It was a 18 foot 1989 ski boat, we had great intentions but quickly realized our mistake. We put it out for sale last Sunday, had a TON of people stop, and had a couple offer us $2500 cash for it last night. SOLD. SOLD! YAHOO! We are EXTREMELY relieved to unload it. (plus we made $500 more than we had into it!) My husband really wants to buy a utility trailer to store some stuff and I keep telling him to just be patient...before we know it, we'll be able to buy one for pennies on the dollar.
 
The trouble with playing the "making money on other people's money game" is that it is a LOT like musical chairs. Once the music stops, you have to be the first to grab whatever is stable enough to hold you up until the music restarts. The difference now, is that the CD player is broken, a new one is on order from china, but they are no longer taking FRNs, and somebody has stolen 75% of the chairs while everybody was up doing the "money shuffle"...

Loup

Great analogy, Loup.

Berta
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Two interesting things for me this morning.

1. A woman in the HR dept who I am friendly with was saying if the gas goes up much higher, everybody should come to work and then DO NO WORK. And see how *they* like that!

2. Passing by some people having lunch at their own break table a few minutes ago, one says to another one: "I'm going to have to stop donating so much to the Food Bank." The other one says, "Yup, can't help it anymore."


If you knew where I worked, this would make your skin crawl because we work in a business that is on the front lines and they make really decent money.

So even they are feeling it.



:shkr:
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It didn't take long to convince my husband to sell the boat we bought early last year (we bought it JUST before we really started to "get it" prep-wise). It was a 18 foot 1989 ski boat, we had great intentions but quickly realized our mistake. We put it out for sale last Sunday, had a TON of people stop, and had a couple offer us $2500 cash for it last night. SOLD. SOLD! YAHOO! We are EXTREMELY relieved to unload it. (plus we made $500 more than we had into it!) My husband really wants to buy a utility trailer to store some stuff and I keep telling him to just be patient...before we know it, we'll be able to buy one for pennies on the dollar.
Good for you, Primed, that sort of honest re-evaluation of priorities and thinking most others will resist to the bitter end with creative rationalizations for why it won't get worse and will improve soon, till they have no choice but to liquidate in a panic. Then it'll be largely too late for them to get out, much less get even, and rarer still to ever come out ahead as you have. Congratulations!!

Panic Early, Beat the Rush!

- Shane
 
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pricilla_777

Inactive
last week DH tried to put a dollar bill in a soda machine at work an it kept spitting it out. he said he couldn't understand it as it was a crisp newer bill. He then looked at the date..........It was from 1969! He told me he got it in change at harbor freight earlier that day. I told him it was the sign of the times and that was money someone probably stored in a bible or something and needed money so they are digging into old money they hoarded. So people if you do get change back, Check the dates!
 

Mzkitty

I give up.
Well.............

Lots of vendors have been raising their prices the past few months; some a little, some quite a bit, I think.

BUT, this is the first one of THESE I've seen. Just got this in my email a little while ago:


FYI

Starting today there is a $3.75 fuel fee charge on all orders. :(




Here it comes!


:bkg:
 

atropa

Inactive
We're seeing more homes, cars, boats, 4-wheelers, etc for sale then we've ever seen before. More of them pop up along the roads every day.

A friend of mine who works at a convenience store/gas station said that they're getting a lot of people coming in lately who are paying for their gas with change. Lots and lots of change. Seems that people are really scraping bottom to pay for gas.

I can vouch for that. LOTS of change going around at my store, some I've never seen. I was able to get some neat silver dollars with the eagle on the moon on the back, some 50 cent pieces from 1964-76, and just today someone came in with a silver certificate dollar from 1957. I'm sure I'll have to part with them sometime too.
 

Wombatcat

Bibliophile
Yesterday when I got gas in town, when the clerk opened up her drawer, there were about 10 $2 bills in there. I thought it was kind of weird but didn't make the connection until I read this thread.:popcorn1:
 

Loon

Inactive
I was contacted by a young man who has done some welding/fabricating work for me asking if I wanted to buy some old iron wagon wheels from him. I had admired them before but didn't want to pay what he was asking. He's hit a rough spot and needs cash. I agreed to purchase two of them for twenty five dollars each. We went to pick them up. He had told me to look around and make offer on anything else I'd like. I was tempted to buy a few things but didn't really need them so I declined to buy more. I hope the little I bought helped him out some. I felt bad for him. There are hundreds more like him here in michigan.......probably thousands. Not able to make their tax bills or car payments or house notes. etc.

I should have a yard sale. I have a lot of stuff from our old bigger house that doesn't fit here and I could unload. Maybe when it warms up more. :)
 

shane

Has No Life - Lives on TB
There are hundreds more like him here in michigan.......probably thousands. Not able to make their tax bills or car payments or house notes. etc.
There's always a sub group that's in perpetual straights borrowing, hocking and selling stuff just to make ends meet.

Been there, done that, even had to hock x-wife's diamond wedding ring once to pay back rent, then couldn't get it back, bought her another one years later. Had years too where with a sick kid I could afford only one thing; gas into town to doctors, doctor visit fee once there, or prescription drug afterwards, but not all three. For a long while all the money I had in the world was in my right pants pocket.

Point is, while many people have seen tough times, the % that are starting to now is going up and likely will even more dramatically so in the near future. They'll be a lot of stuff that does not earn money or save money being put up for sale, so sell yours now while you can still get a good price for it.

- Shane
 

Be Well

may all be well
We're trying to sell DH's nice big (relatively) new truck so we can buy an old clunker. He bought more truck than he needs (he does need a truck) and now we'd rather have a junky truck with some cash.

(I have it for sale on the Sales etc subforum!)
 

Josie

Has No Life - Lives on TB
I've got wonder how many are selling stuff to maintain an inflated lifestyle. I know that some are truely on hard times because of a loss of a job, or an unforseen accident. But how many are trying to maintain a lifestyle that they had no business being in?

Maybe it's the prepper in me or maybe I'm just old fashion but I have always believed in living within your means, downsizing if the circumstances warrant it, and saving for a rainy day.
 
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