Webbot warning for summer

Before you go of half cocked on me about webbots, I am giving you a heads-up, in my own words, to a potentially serious situation mentioned in the final run of the webbots just out this week. It is something you should consider seriously and can be difficult to prepare for.

Besides the usual dollar demise, serious winds, flooding, wars, and anomalies from space this summer, the bots are picking up some serious problems with the summer heat. After June is seems the heat becomes very intense, well beyond the parameters of normal summer heat. This heat taxes the minds of humans and animals. The other thing that is alarming is when you add the predicted power grid failures to this - you have major disaster.

Preparing for severe heat with no power is mighty challenging.
 

Chartreuse

Yellow Solar Sun
SWR - thanks for the heads-up.

Wouldn't surprise me at all - the weather has been very strange here. You can go back to the threads last August and find a lot of us talking about how it seemed fall was already in the air. Now here we are 8 months later, and here in the NW spring seems to be MIA. We've had about one warm day, and this weekend we're having temps 15-20 degrees below normal, snow and hail. I will not be surprised if things rubber-band the other way and we have severe heat this summer.

I've picked up a couple of preps over the last year for heat combined with power outages - one is a box of pills that help replenish and balance your electrolytes in hot weather. The other is a couple of battery operated fans. They are not quite as strong as plug-in fans but I think they would be far better than nothing.
 
SWR - thanks for the heads-up.
one is a box of pills that help replenish and balance your electrolytes in hot weather

They sound like a good idea, can you give me a name?

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Weather has been extreme here this year. Tornados through the mountains which is rare (F4 on ground for over 120 miles) Record flooding washing away many houses on the river with another flood two weeks later that was worse. First flood we measured 12 inches of rain, second one 9 inches. These numbers are way off normal for us. Winds have been terrible. It is starting to warm up, but when you are out in the sun, it is very hot already.
 

sssarawolf

Has No Life - Lives on TB
It has snowed 4 inches worth already today, sure been a long winter for us. Thank you for the heads up.
 

adgal

Veteran Member
I spoke with a fellow in Sacramento this week. He told me that LA already had temps over 100 degrees. Seems a little early for that!
 

nanna

Devil's Advocate
And, this is just the very beginning of the solar (sunspot) cycle ... which is expected to hit solar maximum in - yep - 2012.

:shd:


nanna
 

Red Baron

Paleo-Conservative
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We have been well below average temperatures all winter and have had the second or third highest amount of precipitation also.

All things average out and I would expect a hot and dry summer for the Upper Midwest.

All we need is for a couple of power plants or transmission lines to go down and things will get very interesting.

Infrastructure in all areas of public and private services has been woefully neglected the last few decades due to misplaced priorities by those in charge.

In the public sector teachers and government have sucked up all the money to the detriment of roads and bridges. In the private sector, short term profits have eclipsed any long term sustainability of operations.
 
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Publius

On TB every waking moment
From what I'm seeing in the news Alaska is having record snow for this time of year also Scotland right now and Canada got a good bit of snow this past week.
 

Echo 5

Well...shit
We had a couple of days in the 90s here in LA, but nothing unusual. If anything, it has been unusually cool.
 

Hfcomms

EN66iq
I wouldn't be too surprised. We had a blizzard two weeks ago and a foot of heavy wet snow on top of it last weekend and now a week later it's all gone except for some snowbanks. Heck, it could be the middle 90's in the middle of May at this rate. Mosquito's going to be as big as robbins up here.
 

UncurledA

Inactive
Thanks, ShockWave. If this occurs starting June, it also coincides with the year when it all starts, that Chuck Youngbrandt saw in a vision in 1991. Salient excerpt below:



....As described in Revelation chapters 17 and 18, Judgment will come on Babylon the Great, and we believe it will commence very soon. We understand Babylon the Great to be America. The reasons for Judgment are given within those verses and are obvious to all with a sense of God's point of view and His character. And, national moral error always has its national consequences. God judges nations while they are yet a nation.

Chuck divides the Judgment into a three year progression. We will assume the Judgment will start in the year 2000. It will progress into an enemy occupation of America lasting seven years. At the end of the seven years, the occupying armies will be driven out.

Weatherwise the year will start with a very rainy spring. On June 9th it gets very hot and no rain with resulting crop failures. In October it will begin to be very very cold. There will be volcanic eruption on the west coast. A destructive hurricane will hit the New Orleans area in September, followed on the 19th by an earthquake in St. Louis. This hurricane, [Sept in New Orleans,] is a sign that in the following December an accidental Russian firing of a nuclear missile attack on America will occur. While the Russians try to stop them, 4 get through. They hit Lexington KY, Columbia SC, Richmond VA, and just north of New York City. The U.S. counter attacks and hits three Russian cities.

In this year North Korea will attack South Korea, China attacks Taiwan. War again in the Persian Gulf where we lose. The stock market will start its fall in July and will result in one half the people being out of work with great inflation and coupled with food shortages, starvation will start. From other prophets like Dan Bolher, terrorist attacks will become common. The destruction of trains, planes, school busses, power plants and on and on. With our economy reduced, fuel will be in short supply. Food riots will start in August, August will be a real turning point. Those who are rebellious against God will now rebel against the government including the communists fifth columnists we have here. Military troops will have to be called out as a result.

Some will repent but many will continue in rebellion. God said 90% of the rebellious and disobedient church people will die during this time. What sounds like germ warfare or at least a plague breaks out in California and Georgia killing thousands as it spreads, panic and fear will result. China and Japan buddy up closer in their economies, Japan out of fear, no doubt.

The second year, 2001, weatherwise there is the very cold winter, some places no snow and others to much, -46 degrees in Chicago. Eighty percent of the homes in America will be without heat and with little food many will starve to death. Dead bodies will lie in the streets. It will reach 120 degrees by mid May.

The year starts out in January with an earthquake in northern Iowa followed in February by another one in Boston and then they become very common throughout the year. In late spring God's prophets will go across the land calling people to repentance, many will repent. Electrical power will be rationed, this may be the result of the strange and powerful ejecta from the sun which can destroy power grid hardware like it did in Quebec in 1989, that little one cost 10 million to repair. Oil imports are cut off. Very little food. Again half the people out of work. Mexico and Canada restrict how many Americans can cross over. Fear, pain, and misery for the unbelievers. Miracles for the Christians, food increased, dead raised. At this time persecution of Christians will go wild with government approval.

Next during the third year, in the summer, July 5th, a mighty, very powerful earthquake hits Chicago, it will be heard for 500 miles around, knock people off their feet in Detroit. The water in Lake Michigan will rush to the north and then return 15 stories high and totally destroy Chicago. The water will continue.....
 

rhealady

Inactive
Mister Systems

http://www.dripworksusa.com/store/misters.php
Scroll down to cool breeze misting systems.

We have these around our deck-the hot west side. Unbelievably cool no matter what the temp. Put them on a timer to run a few minutes every 15 minutes and water use isn't too bad (we are on a well). A few in the garden to cool me off, some for the livestock. Around the house they have really impacted our A/C usage by lowering the temp around the house.

If all we have is a genny going these will reduce a 100 degree day to a tolerable 80 degrees.
 

SIRR1

Inactive
Well today in earth quake country (St. Louis) was an awsome 73 degrees, sunny and blue skys.

Sorry for the drift, I was listening to Art Bell on coast to coast last night and one of his topics was the possibilty of solar activity this summer with more sun spots and the possiblity of increased heat this summer and upcoming years because of the suns activities.

I have alway thought this global warming thing was directly to our orbit around the sun, we do not orbit in a perfect circle and this past decade has brought the earth just a little closer than normal.
 
... a couple of battery operated fans. They are not quite as strong as plug-in fans but I think they would be far better than nothing.



IIRC, Walmart had them selling for less than $10 last Fall. They work great and in a dry climate one might put a piece of damp fabric over it to act like a "swamp cooler". These 12v DC fans are in the same isle with all the 110vac fans.

This is the time to get these items - don't wait for the emergency/urgency.

Can run these off of small sealed acid batteries or directly from solar panels.
 

Hiding Bear

Inactive
Before you go of half cocked on me about webbots, I am giving you a heads-up, in my own words, to a potentially serious situation mentioned in the final run of the webbots just out this week. It is something you should consider seriously and can be difficult to prepare for.

Besides the usual dollar demise, serious winds, flooding, wars, and anomalies from space this summer, the bots are picking up some serious problems with the summer heat. After June is seems the heat becomes very intense, well beyond the parameters of normal summer heat. This heat taxes the minds of humans and animals. The other thing that is alarming is when you add the predicted power grid failures to this - you have major disaster.

Preparing for severe heat with no power is mighty challenging.

This is very interesting. I am a believer in the concept although I haven't been follow it close enough to fully understand all the implications.

Do you have a link where we get more details on this latest report?
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Are you out of season or is 60 too short????


My bride has a family camp where the legal limit minimum for a 'Lunge is 50 or 52 I ferget....
 

Wise Owl

Deceased
Well, its been in the high 50's and 60's for the past week. The 3 ft of snow in the yard is almost gone and the 16 ft pile in the drive is now only about 8 ft high.
Rivers and streams are WAY up from the massive melt. It was supposed to rain today...nada. No rain predicted until around thurs altho that is not a bad thing cause as fast as the snow is melting now, it is MUD city out there. We have rivers of water (small trenches dug for runoff) in our driveway. I am sick of tracking in all the mud on our feet. EEwwwww

The temps are NOT normal for this time of year. It was not that cold this winter. If the same trend continues it will be a really hot summer for Maine. Glad we live in the mt's . At least it cools down some at night.
 

rocco94

Inactive
It's been in the 80's and high 70's for days with no end in sight of this beautiful weather. We would normally be having wet snow showers and high's maybe in the 50's. It is strange weather indeed, I hate to see what July will bring if this is the trend.
 

brandyh29

Inactive
I know one thing, every summer down here keeps getting hotter & hotter. The past 2 years were really bad. It pretty much stays in the mid-upper 90's, sometimes low 100's from June til September. I put a thermometer on my porch last year to see the temp cause my porch felt like an OVEN, and it was like 120 degrees on my porch. Im not especially looking forward to summer.
 

LeafyForest

Veteran Member
Just got back from a nice bike ride - but nearly froze! It was in the high 80's all week, and this weekend is in the low 60's - and then it is going to be hot next week - real wierd weather! Sure not looking forward to the summer if it is going to be so hot????
 

TBonz

Veteran Member
Normally, we're blazing by April. But it's 2/3 over and it's been mild, even cool at times.

No complaints from me. Soon enough it'll be hot for unending days.
 

denfoote

Inactive
Before you go of half cocked on me about webbots, I am giving you a heads-up, in my own words, to a potentially serious situation mentioned in the final run of the webbots just out this week. It is something you should consider seriously and can be difficult to prepare for.

Besides the usual dollar demise, serious winds, flooding, wars, and anomalies from space this summer, the bots are picking up some serious problems with the summer heat. After June is seems the heat becomes very intense, well beyond the parameters of normal summer heat. This heat taxes the minds of humans and animals. The other thing that is alarming is when you add the predicted power grid failures to this - you have major disaster.

Preparing for severe heat with no power is mighty challenging.

Sounds like a normal Arizona summer monsoon!! :whistle:

110 degrees F and 19% humidity!!
 

Chartreuse

Yellow Solar Sun
They sound like a good idea, can you give me a name?

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I got them at a safety supply store here in Portland - Sanderson Safety Supply, I believe it's called. The box is pretty generic - it just says "Electrolyte Tabs, Heat Relief." It's manufactured "for Petragon, Inc.", and the product no. is 115230.
 

Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member
Wouldn't surprise me at all - the weather has been very strange here. .....I will not be surprised if things rubber-band the other way and we have severe heat this summer.

Char, I think you've got a point there. It does seem that the more extreme the weather is in winter, it yo-yo's back to the other extreme soon enough. My family lives in Wisconsin and they have had the worst winter, breaking record snowfall amounts. When they think it is finally over, they have more. The other side of that is summer. I am wondering what is going to happen to them now.

As for us, last year we had a beautiful summer compared to the heat + humidity when I lived at the beach. Up here in the mountains, I can breathe and we had the windows open most of the summer with a cool breeze. There was only a few days of humidity where we had to close them and turn on the A/C to sleep at night. However, as dry as it was, I started to get very worried about the large trees that shade the house. They weren't getting the rain. No rain and eventually they will die and the canopy that protects my house will be gone.

When we put in a new driveway, we had the option of putting in blacktop or white gravel. We chose the gravel to protect the environment and not add more heat to the air. It is also good for the big trees since water is shed in that direction and goes through the gravel to the tree roots.

Char I find your sub-signature interesting; 'Yellow Solar Sun' Did you add that before this thread?

MM
 

Dusty Lady

Veteran Member
This is just a bump for any folks who have not seen this before.

Once again, just a little bump for any who missed it.
 

susie0884

Dooming since 1998
Well, with no power, and high temperatures, this little piece of technology could come in handy. I saw this on another site a couple of weeks ago, and I bought two planters and some sand, and intend to try it:

check out photos at the site:

http://www.newmediaexplorer.org/chris/2004/04/14/cool_fridge_without_using_electricity.htm

Cool: Fridge Without Using Electricity!

This is incredible idea is an extension of the pottery water cooling vessels used though the millennia.

Chris Gupta



This is Mohammed Bah Abba's Pot-in-pot invention. In northern Nigeria, where Mohammed is from, over 90% of the villages have no electricity. His invention, which he won a Rolex Award for (and $100,000), is a refrigerator than runs without electricity.



Here's how it works. You take a smaller pot and put it inside a larger pot. Fill the space in between them with wet sand, and cover the top with a wet cloth. When the water evaporates, it pulls the heat out with it, making the inside cold. It's a natural, cheap, easy-to-make refrigerator.



So, instead of perishable foods rotting after only three days, they can last up to three weeks. Obviously, this has the potential to change their lives. And it already has -- there are more girls attending school, for example, as their families no longer need them to sell food in the market.

Arnold Williams from hathaby.net commented on this in his weblog. He said:

QUOTE
Brilliant ideas don't need to be difficult to execute: here's a case in point. The technology has been known for centuries, but WASN'T APPLIED TO THE PROBLEM. Notice that applying technology also has the effect of educating young people.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
Char PLEASE look VERY carefully at the box those tabs came in. I am ALMOST CERTAIN That the tabs will REQUIRE you to drink a MINIMUM of a liter of water per tab.

I found one source which gave the contents of tabs and they are what we used to call salt tabs and BELIEVE ME if you simpy try to take one when you are feeling heat stressed with out the water you can kill yourself with the electrolyte imballance if you don't add the liter of water with it....


AKSO to point out, the wet sand/pot in pot refrigerator will work REALLY WELL in desert and LOW humidity areas, but won't do SQUAT as far as cooling if your humidity likes to be over 75-80%...
 

Adino

paradigm shaper
Fans with misters are really nice, and as long as you have or can generate electricity they work nicely.

However, we just use regular spray bottles (Walmart, like $1.50 a piece) filled with water and use them to stay wet without having to generate sweat.

Same principle, the latent heat of evaporation, one half of the engine that drives the weather itself (latent heat of condensation being the other).

Water evaporates, takes heat with it. My Grandma taught us this, along with an fan, an ice cube rubbed on your neck and wrists and the occasion cold shower we got through midwest summers w/out a/c for years. Course sleeping on the screened in porch helped alot too.
 
thanks

for the headsup SWR.

Last summer, especially July and August the heat was killer up here. Nobody wanted to do anything, even with AC is sapped you. Yep, this IS the year like no other, for decades anyway.

Preppers are already being called "hoarders" in the press. Didn't take long did it?
 

Chartreuse

Yellow Solar Sun
Char PLEASE look VERY carefully at the box those tabs came in. I am ALMOST CERTAIN That the tabs will REQUIRE you to drink a MINIMUM of a liter of water per tab.

I found one source which gave the contents of tabs and they are what we used to call salt tabs and BELIEVE ME if you simpy try to take one when you are feeling heat stressed with out the water you can kill yourself with the electrolyte imballance if you don't add the liter of water with it....

I just double-checked. The instructions say to drink an 8 oz. glass of water with each dose, which is two tablets. That is a good thing to keep in mind.
 
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