Would you wear a I.D. (SHOCK) bracelet on your flight?

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Witness

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http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/

A Canadian company has developed a bracelet they say Homeland Security is interested in. Above is a link to the company's website. There is a video worth watching.

Airline passengers would walk up to check their bags and get their boarding passes. The attendant would then give them an "I.D." bracelet explaining that the bracelet will making boarding more efficient and help secure their luggage.

In reality the "I.D." bracelet is a shock device.

http://www.boingboing.net/2008/03/20/air-safety-proposal.html
this link above is another article mentioning the bracelet and a link to the patent and a link to the manufacturer.
 
Walrus Whisperer

Walrus Whisperer

Hope in chains...
The day something like that malfunctions and kills someone with a bad heart is the day their family OWNS an airline.

And, Just for the record:
NO.​
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
Not just NO, BUT HELL NO!! (they are also considering a SHOCKING NECKLACE) (I have already had ONE heart attack. From what I have read about this unit, there is no discrimination between the "terrorist" and OTHER PASSENGERS, SO EVERYONE OR EVERYONE IN THAT DIRECTION WOULD BE SHOCKED!!

And, what is to prevent the terrorist from slipping a wide thick rubber band around his wrist to insulate himself from the shock??

And, are they going to make these next to the skin units to be REUSED SO GERMS AND DISEASES ARE PASSED FROM ONE PASSENGER TO THE NEXT??

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-...3,851.PN.&OS=PN/6,933,851&RS=PN/6,933,851HERE IS A DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE PATENT: Depending on the type of transmission medium used to send the activating signal, other passengers 22 may also become temporarily incapacitated, which is undesirable and unfortunate, but may be unavoidable.
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And they indicate they intend to use these units on not only terrorists, but "unruly" passengers...someone who asked for a second cup of coffee and get zapped??
 
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Oldotaku

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You know, in a week where I've heard...

... a mulatto say that because his white grandmother is a racist, that makes his racist black pastor OK...

... the President says the economy is basically sound, while gold and the Euro break record highs...

... and that a woman that wanted a leg operation ended up with a new a++hole instead...

that this is the STUPIDEST thing I've heard all week. Why not just have a doctor go through the cabin just before the doors close, and inject every passenger with a heavy-duty tranquilizer that would last the duration of the flight? You wouldn't need any cabin attendents. Or better still, put the passengers in aluminum coffins, and load them like freight?

Hell no, I wouldn't wear a shock bracelet. I bet you could make a good living providing your fellow passengers with 2" wide sections of bicycle inner tube to go underneath the bracelet.

DUMB DUMB DUMB idea.
 
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LXF71

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Well I have dated two flight attendants, not to disparage all flight attendants, but I couldnt see giving either of these two that sort of responsibiltiy let alone trust their judgment. They were nice gals and all but lacking a bit, in the common sense arena.
 
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Fred

Middle of the road
I can see it now. They'll tell us, "it's for the protection of the crew and other passengers, to protect them from TERROR, and that's the only reason anyone will ever get shocked."

Then, in a few years, we'll start seeing the stories:

"Man electro-shocked for talking back to attendant"

"Passenger zapped because another passenger reported seeing gun. No gun found"

"Man shocked for saying don't tase me, ho! to stewardess"


...and then I'll get accused of being a pilot-hater because I post so many "pilot bashing" stories here. :D
 
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oleboy

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I love the part in their video where the animated air marshal shoots the wrong passenger who is seated nowhere near the target. This was after he shot a hole in the side of the plane first.

:lkick:
 
LoupGarou

LoupGarou

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ainitfunny said:
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And, what is to prevent the terrorist from slipping a wide thick rubber band around his wrist to insulate himself from the shock??
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Or better yet, an aluminum foil bubble gum wrapper shoved up underneath once you have it on so that it just arcs to the wrapper.

Loup
 
eXe

eXe

Techno Junkie
Nope.. and the very fact that they are even considering this tells me I made the right decision long ago to NEVER fly again.

Its just too paranoid and creepy in airports. Now with this creepy tech, people will be shocked for not putting their seat belts on in the right about of time, or going to the bathroom too much.

Thanks.. Ill pass.

One thing is for sure.. it will NEVER EVER catch/stop a terror attack.. it will be used to control behavior in the air.
 
ainitfunny

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
You won't need to go near aircraft to find yourself wearing a shock collar/necklace/bracelet in the future if HOMELAND SECURITY has it's crowd control and other plans!!

CHECK OUT ALL THE WAYS and OPPORTUNITIES HOMELAND SECURITY/police NOW PLAN TO USE SHOCK COLLARS AND BRACELETS ON YOU, JOHN Q. CITIZEN, BEYOND JUST ON AIRPLANE PASSENGERS!! (It ISN'T just for "terrorists" anymore!)
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http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/news/upload/pg1HomelandSecurity7_06.pdf

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http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/news/upload/pg2HomelandSecurity7_06.pdf
 
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Publius

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I can't see how they can single out one passenger fast or with the speed it needs to be done, so with that the only it can be done is to Zap everyone on the plane at the same time.
 
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don24mac

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...That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their Safety and Happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that Governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shewn, that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future security...
 
fruit loop

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Another slight drawback: terrorists overpower the flight crew and get the controls to everyone's shock bracelet. They then subdue the passengers, thus preventing another United 93.

Hey, TSA!:fgr:
 
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Publius

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How about they give every one a night stick as they board and hand it back in when they get off.:shr:
 
almost ready

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My goodness yes! A perfect weapon for a terrorist

fruit loop said:
Another slight drawback: terrorists overpower the flight crew and get the controls to everyone's shock bracelet. They then subdue the passengers, thus preventing another United 93.

Hey, TSA!:fgr:
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and the terrorist doesn't even have to carry it on, only to steal it from the crew member.

Now that's thinking for ya!
 
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Lynn

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ainitfunny said:
You won't need to go near aircraft to find yourself wearing a shock collar/necklace/bracelet in the future if HOMELAND SECURITY has it's crowd control and other plans!!

CHECK OUT ALL THE WAYS and OPPORTUNITIES HOMELAND SECURITY/police NOW PLAN TO USE SHOCK COLLARS AND BRACELETS ON YOU, JOHN Q. CITIZEN, BEYOND JUST ON AIRPLANE PASSENGERS!! (It ISN'T just for "terrorists" anymore!)
Page 1
http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/news/upload/pg1HomelandSecurity7_06.pdf

Page 2:
http://www.lamperdlesslethal.com/news/upload/pg2HomelandSecurity7_06.pdf
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I remember seeing a movie with people wearing shock collars. I thought it was far fetched at the time. Wish I could remember the name of it.
 
timbo

timbo

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Lynn there was an original Star Trek, where the Captain and others wore shock collars. That is one that jumped to my mind.

Why dont they just issue a shock bracelet at birth to everyone and of course as the child grows, they get a new bracelet.

Then the teacher can shock the little snots when they dont raise their hand.

Oh yeah the teacher gets shocked when the principal doesnt get the teacher's grades in on time.

The principal gets shocked by a parent when the principal doesnt agree with the parent.

Now this is just the school system! !

Look how production would go way up in the factories or in the office even!

This bracelet thing has so many possibilities!! :whistle:

BTW can we get a smilie shock bracelet? That'll teach ya to disagree with me!
 
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ARMY RANGER

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hd5574 said:
No

I do not find it necessary to fly ~
just say no to flying ~

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:wvflg: I am with ya ,last time I flew the flight got cancelled .I had to take another flight the next day.Point of the story is I could have driven and got there quicker and cheaper.I will never fly on a commercial airline again,and besides if I drive I can take my friend Kimber along.:whistle: :popcorn1: :wvflg:
 
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Lynn

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timbo said:
Lynn there was an original Star Trek, where the Captain and others wore shock collars. That is one that jumped to my mind.

Why dont they just issue a shock bracelet at birth to everyone and of course as the child grows, they get a new bracelet.

Then the teacher can shock the little snots when they dont raise their hand.

Oh yeah the teacher gets shocked when the principal doesnt get the teacher's grades in on time.

The principal gets shocked by a parent when the principal doesnt agree with the parent.

Now this is just the school system! !

Look how production would go way up in the factories or in the office even!

This bracelet thing has so many possibilities!! :whistle:

BTW can we get a smilie shock bracelet? That'll teach ya to disagree with me!
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If they decide to do that I'm buying stock. In the "Depends" factory. Don't leave home without them.:lkick:
 
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Castle

Contributing Member
I highly doubt this will ever happen. Yeah, the technology exists...but that won't help airlines that no longer have paying passengers on board.

Seriously, who would fly if they made you wear some kind of shock device. No one in their right mind. Business would plummett, airlines would go out of business. However, with my recent flying experiences...not much of a loss. I'd rather drive anyway.
 
NoPlugsNM

NoPlugsNM

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I quit flying commercial aircraft in 1999, security them was just too big a PITA, not worth all the hastle. They check all the cabin passengers down to the short hairs and leave the baggage stuff wide open. After observing all the ground stuff for a few hours while waiting for my flight to get going I decided it was time to just stop flying.

Since Homeland Security has become the standard I have been to the airport to pick up several friends coming in/out - just dealing with getting into a pickup area is too much hastle. Again this just reinforced my decision to stop flying. Ground crew stuff STILL wide open.

With exception of the Aloha Flight a few years back, all possible terrorist explosions, airline crashes that have been suspect terrorist actions, etc have taken place from below the cabin floor in baggage compartments. The cabin floor is known as waterline 200, all aircraft cabin floors are built to the waterline 200 specs, has to do with fitting gate equipment, etc.
 
fruit loop

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It's appalling what the sheep will accept in the name of safety.

The local tv crews go to the airport and interview passengers every time one of these stupe security measures gets passed. They never have a problem finding a slew of Happy Mouths to say how great this is.

I do not fly anymore. What really pisses me off is now they're infiltrating the buses and trains and making THOSE unbearable as well. Amtrak is now about to require photo IDs. I wonder what the Amish are going to do.
 
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