Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast

Dornroeschen

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Third undersea Internet cable cut in Mideast

* Story Highlights
* NEW: Repairs to Mediterranean cables expected by February 12
* Cable reported cut Friday off Dubai in Persian Gulf
* Extensive Internet failure has affected much of Asia, the Middle East, north Africa
* Analysts say no chance of similar Internet loss in United States

(CNN) -- An undersea cable carrying Internet traffic was cut off the Persian Gulf emirate of Dubai, officials said Friday, the third loss of a line carrying Internet and telephone traffic in three days.

Ships have been dispatched to repair two undersea cables damaged on Wednesday off Egypt.

The ships were expected to reach the site of the break on Tuesday with repairs completed by February 12, according to a press release from FLAG Telecom, which owns one of the cables.

Stephan Beckert, an analyst with TeleGeography, a research company that consults on global Internet issues, said those cables were likely damaged by ships' anchors.

The loss of the two Mediterranean cables -- FLAG Telecom's FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, a cable owned by a consortium of more than a dozen telecommunications companies -- has snarled Internet and phone traffic from Egypt to India.

Officials said Friday it was unclear what caused the damage to FLAG's FALCON cable about 50 kilometers off Dubai. A repair ship was en route, FLAG said.

Eric Schoonover, a senior analyst with TeleGeography, said the FALCON cable is designed on a "ring system," taking it on a circuit around the Persian Gulf and enabling traffic to be more easily routed around damage.

Schoonover said the two cables damaged Wednesday collectively account for as much as three-quarters of the international communications between Europe and the Middle East, so their loss had a much bigger effect.

Without the use of the FLAG Europe-Asia cable and SeaMeWe-4, some carriers were forced to reroute their European traffic around the globe, which could cause delays, Beckert said.

Other carriers could use SeaMeWe-3, an older cable that remained the only direct connection from Europe to the Middle East and Asia. Because this cable is older, it has a smaller capacity than the two damaged cables, Beckert said.

Still, Beckert stressed that although the problem created a "big pain" for many of carriers, it did not compare to the several months of disruption in East Asia in 2006 after an earthquake damaged seven undersea cables near Taiwan.

TeleGeography Research Director Alan Mauldin said new cables planned to link Europe with Egypt should provide enough backup to prevent most similar problems in the future.

Schoonover said a similar Internet problem could not happen in the United States.

"We have all the content here," he said. "It's not going to be felt other than we won't get the BBC."

TeleGeography officials also said most traffic between the U.S., Canada and Mexico is carried over land, and there is a plentiful supply of undersea cables carrying traffic under the Atlantic and Pacific oceans.

Meanwhile, Internet service was slow Friday in Dubai and Egypt, where online service was intermittent, but there was less demand because many businesses in those countries aren't open on Fridays.

Service providers in Egypt said they hoped to have improved capacity by Sunday.

Web surfers in India were experiencing a marked improvement in service, though graphic- or video-heavy sites were still taking longer to load.

Most of the major Internet service providers in India, like Reliance and VSNL, were starting to use backup lines Friday, allowing service to slowly come back, said Rajesh Chharia, president of the Internet Services Providers Association of India.

The Indian ISPs were still alerting customers to slowdowns over the next few days with service quality delays of 50 percent to 60 percent, he said.

The Internet slowdowns had no effect on trading at the country's two main stock exchanges, the SENSEX and the NSE, because they aren't dependent on the downed cables, Chharia said.

Individual Web users were still feeling the effects.

Madhu Vohra, who lives in the city of Noida on the outskirts of Delhi, said she uses Internet phone service Skype to call her son in the United States, but she hasn't been able to reach him since the slowdown.

"We keep trying for a long time and the message comes up, 'This page can't display,' so finally we just turn the computer off and give up," Vohra said.

Internet cafes typically full of teenaged gamers are nearly empty with speeds still frustratingly slow.

"I felt like beating the ... modem, throwing it away, because we compete on the Internet and it feels really bad," said Aman Khurana, 13.

State-owned Dubai telecom provider Du and Kuwait's Ministry of Communications estimated Thursday that the problems might take two weeks to fix.

CNN's Elham Nakhlawi, Mustafa Al Arab, Caroline Faraj, Tess Eastment and Aneesh Raman contributed to this report.

Copyright 2008 CNN. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed. Associated Press contributed to this report.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/WORLD/meast/02/01/internet.outage/index.html
 

TheSearcher

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(CNN) -- An undersea cable carrying Internet traffic was cut off the Persian Gulf emirate of Dubai, officials said Friday, the third loss of a line carrying Internet and telephone traffic in three days.

This sort of thing is really uncommon. And now three cuts in three days? The odds on that being random must be incredibly low. Somebody is up to something. :hmm:
 

mykyll

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I wouldn't doubt if it were the Iranians themselves cutting the net to keep their subjects in the dark about what is about to happen.
 

sparkky

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or would WE damage/incapacitate them to prevent a newly discovered major hack attack coming from the ME on the world or the west? or a potential "go signal" for a terrorist attack against the west? or disruption of financial transactions or critical information that could harm the west?. :whistle:

Just thinking out loud.

I find the odds of "random chance" on the cables being cut by ship anchors BEYOND astronomical!!
 

Dornroeschen

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Third Undersea Cable Cut, This Time Near Dubai

A third undersea cable has been cut after breaks near Egypt earlier this week disrupted Web access in parts of the Middle East and Asia.

By Reuters , InformationWeek
Feb. 1, 2008

MUMBAI, Feb 1 - A third undersea cable has been cut after breaks near Egypt earlier this week disrupted Web access in parts of the Middle East and Asia, Indian-owned cable network operator FLAG Telecom said on Friday.

FLAG, a wholly-owned subsidiary of India's number two mobile operator Reliance Communications, said in a statement on its Web site its FALCON cable had been reported cut at 0559 GMT, 56 kms (35 miles) from Dubai on a segment between the United Arab Emirates and Oman. (Editing by Paul Bolding)

Copyright 2008 Reuters. Click for Restrictions

http://www.informationweek.com/shared/printableArticle.jhtml?articleID=206102006
 

TECH32

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How does that saying go?

Once is an accident
Twice is coincidence
Three times is an attack!
 

Dornroeschen

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Third Internet Cable Cut in Middle East

Friday , February 01, 2008

AP

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates —
A leading Internet provider in the Emirates said an undersea cable had been cut early Friday in the Persian Gulf, causing severe phone line disruptions here and compounding an already existing Internet outage across large parts of the Middle East and Asia after two other undersea cables were damaged earlier this week north of Egypt.

Omar Sultan, chief executive of Dubai's IPS DU, said the incident was "very unusual." He said it wasn't known how the underwater FLAG FALCON cable, stretching between the United Arab Emirates and Oman, had been damaged.

"The situation is critical for us in terms of congestion" on international lines, Sultan told The Associated Press, but refused to speculate on the extent of the damage.

DU said in a press release that the cause of the incident "had not yet been identified."

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The owner of the FALCON cable, U.K. FLAG Telecom said the cable was cut at 05:59 GMT Friday, 56 kilometers (34.8 miles) off the coast of Dubai and that a "repair ship has been notified and expected to arrive at the site in the next few days."

The U.K. company is also the owner of one of the undersea cables that were sliced Wednesday in the Mediterranean Sea. That damage triggered wide Internet outages, hampering businesses and private usage across the Mideast and Asia.

A FLAG official in India, speaking on condition of anonymity because of company policy, said workers were still trying to determine how the Persian Gulf cable was cut.

He declined to comment on whether the cut was somehow linked to Wednesday's cut in Egypt, but said he did not believe FLAG's cables were deliberately targeted.

As in the case of the Mediterranean damage, which Egyptian officials said was caused by a ship's anchor when a vessel couldn't dock in the port of Alexandria, there was also speculation that an anchor had sliced the Persian Gulf cable.

DU said the incident "added further complications to the existing cuts on the FLAG Europe-Asia and SEA-ME-WE4 cables" off the coast of Egypt and that the Persian Gulf cut "impacted all international voice calls through the DU network," leading to "severe congestion and degradation of international voice calls."

It said national calls in the Emirates and Internet access were not affected.

DU serves large residential communities of expatriates in the Emirates, including residents on the man-made luxury islands off the coast of Dubai. The Internet provider also serves Dubai International Financial Center.

The full impact of the latest incident on trade in the Mideast's business hub will not be gauged until Sunday, the first working day after the Friday-Saturday Muslim weekend.

Earlier Friday, FLAG said that a repair ship was expected to arrive Tuesday at the site of the damaged cables off the coast of Alexandria, and that repair work would likely take a week.

The Mediterranean cut took place 8.3 kilometers (5 miles) from Alexandria, on a stretch linking Egypt to Italy, the company said but gave no explanation why repairs would take so long. Alexandria harbor has been closed for most of this week because of bad weather.

Egypt's Minister of Communications and Information Technology Tarek Kamil said Friday that the Internet service in the country would be up and running to about 80 percent of its usual capacity within 48 hours, revising an earlier statement that this level would be restored by late Friday.

"However, it's not before ten days until the Internet service returns to its normal performance," Kamil told the Friday edition of the state Al-Ahram newspaper. There are eight million Internet users in Egypt, according to a ministry count.

Kamil described Wednesday's damage as an "earthquake" and said the reason behind the cut would only be determined once repair teams with their robot equipment reach the damaged cables.

The official MENA new agency quoted Kamil as saying technicians managed to raise the level of the Internet service Thursday to about 45 percent and that Telecom Egypt would get soon a bandwidth of 10 gigabyte to be increased to 13 gigabyte — close to the country's total capacity of 16 gigabytes.

But Internet access remained sporadic Friday.

The paper also said that state Telecom Egypt on Thursday "sealed a deal" for a new 3,100 kilometer (1,900 miles) -long undersea cable between Egypt and France, also through the Mediterranean that would take over 18 months to complete. It did not say who Telecom's partners in the deal were.

http://www.foxnews.com/printer_friendly_story/0,3566,327588,00.html
 

SomeAverageJoe

Senior Member
I thought part of the creation of the internet was that it be able to survive major disruptions of it nodes? Wouldn't traffic just automatically reroute itself?
 

Freeholder

This too shall pass.
How does that saying go?

Once is an accident
Twice is coincidence
Three times is an attack!

Yes. I was suspicious yesterday when there were two cut lines reported -- three is too much to call an accident.

So, the question is, who benefits from this?

Kathleen
 

Moggy

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My post of the other day was removed from the main board and highly ridiculed by some...but for those of you with open minds, here it is:

"Mercury retrogrades on January 28th in the sign of Aquarius. That sign rules many things, including technology of all sorts, especially computers. I suggest that everyone back up whatever is on their computer that they would like to see again once this planet changes direction in February. Expect trouble with all systems; personal and corporate."

Also, I wouldn't count on not having trouble here in the states because when Mercury made its retro station it did so while in square (major difficulty) Neptune, the planet which co-rules the U.S. 3rd house of communications.

Moggy
 

Malleus

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CIA or Mossad. Prelude to an attack against Iran? I don't understand why Iran would cut these cables. Israel is completely unaffected, which definitely doesn't sound like Iran. If Iran were planning something against Israel, they would want to cut Israel off.
 

night driver

ESFP adrift in INTJ sea
SomeAverageJoe, the ORIGINAL design was VERY self healing and fault tollerant.

Then we started to try to pass loads of traffic and found that the fault tollerant WEB was MUCH LESS EFFICIENT than a Backbone design, and so, we went for efficiency and speed......
 

lgsracer

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Uss Halibut, Uss Seawolf (SSN 575), Uss Parche, Uss William H Bates, Uss Russell all razor blades now.
 

Aardaerimus

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I wouldn't doubt if it were the Iranians themselves cutting the net to keep their subjects in the dark about what is about to happen.

Likewise, I wouldn't be surprised if our own goverment ops were cutting them off from the world to keep americans from talking to Iranian people online and finding out that many Iranians are actually... *gasp*... Human!

It's hard to perpetuate hostility and garner public support of preemptive invasion if your people are getting friendly with the enemy's people.

The govenment would rather perpetuate the myth that Iranians are all Islamic militants bent on worldwide Jihad. Same way they have most americans believing that the Chinese are all living in 3rd world squalor, when in fact the standard of living for many chinese people is actually enviable, and many of the people are really quite wonderful.

Their governments really suck, but so does ours. Still that's what ours wants us to focus on. It dehumanizes the rest of the populace and we think, well they're all the same as Amadinejad!"

And their government plays the same game - meaning you are all like Bush! Do you like be identified with Bush? Me neither.
 

WildDaisy

God has a plan, Trust it!
It could possibly be Israel. All of the ME is effected, except Israel, who routes their internet differently and their cables aren't affected.

It could be random chance, but its very unlikely. It has to be someone doing it for some reason. I'm sure we'll find out soon enough why.
 

Kadee

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I liked this story yesterday. I thought it was important. Well, it just got more interesting. . . .

Can we call it terrorism yet? There's lots of types of terrorism, I'd call this type economic.
 

atlan

Membership Revoked
"We have all the content here," he said. "It's not going to be felt other than we won't get the BBC."

There goes my daily comedic fix.
 

Cally

Apprentice prepper
This source says one has been cut running through the Suez. How many is this now?! :eek:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9}

DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--A third undersea fibre optic cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka was cut Friday, said a Flag official.
Two other fiber optic cables owned by Flag Telecom and consortium SEA-ME-WE 4 located near Alexandria, Egypt, were damaged Wednesday leading to a slowdown in Internet and telephone services in the Middle East and South Asia.
"We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data, everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, told Zawya Dow Jones.
 

AzProtector

Veteran Member
I would venture a guess and say "it wasn't us."

Maureen :dstrs:

Then who? The Israeli's aren't affected, and have subs...But I'm really failing to understand who would gain anything from this...you can't tell me that any of the ME militaries use the internet as we know it for communications...wouldn't they have internal systems for that?
 

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
This source says one has been cut running through the Suez. How many is this now?! :eek:

http://www.marketwatch.com/news/sto...x?guid={1AAB2A79-E983-4E0E-BC39-68A120DC16D9}

DUBAI (Zawya Dow Jones)--A third undersea fibre optic cable running through the Suez to Sri Lanka was cut Friday, said a Flag official.
Two other fiber optic cables owned by Flag Telecom and consortium SEA-ME-WE 4 located near Alexandria, Egypt, were damaged Wednesday leading to a slowdown in Internet and telephone services in the Middle East and South Asia.
"We had another cut today between Dubai and Muscat three hours back. The cable was about 80G capacity, it had telephone, Internet data, everything," one Flag official, who declined to be named, told Zawya Dow Jones.

OMG. :shkr:

If that is indeed a fourth cut event, something is afoot. Big Time.
 

mykyll

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This was dated yesterday.

Thats one long cable.
Look at the headline. They knew more cuts were likely?

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Fiber Optic Cable Cuts Isolate Millions From Internet, Future Cuts Likely
By Ryan Singel January 31, 2008 | 11:59:23 AM
Large swaths of the Middle East and Southeast Asia fell into internet darkness after two major underseas fiber optic links were damaged off Egypt's coast on Wednesday.

Early reports blamed an errant anchor for severing the cables, but THREAT LEVEL has not yet been able to confirm...
 

Beach

Veteran Member
Phone and internet service in that area is now a stressed system. I read that the first two cables represented three-quarters of the communications between the Middle East and Europe.

What do stressed systems do in an emergency...if something big happens over there?
 

Milk-maid

Girls with Guns Member
Just a thought, but my friend who worked on these underground cables said

"They are protected so an anchor couldn't do that kind of damage....more likely a test to see how long it takes for them to get there and repair them."
 

Perpetuity

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Here's the rest of Mykyll's linked article...

http://blog.wired.com/27bstroke6/2008/01/fiber-optic-cab.html
Fiber Optic Cable Cuts Isolate Millions From Internet, Future Cuts Likely

By Ryan Singel January 31, 2008 | 11:59:23 AMCategories: Glitches and Bugs, Hacks and Cracks


Large swaths of the Middle East and Southeast Asia fell into internet darkness after two major underseas fiber optic links were damaged off Egypt's coast on Wednesday.

Early reports blamed an errant anchor for severing the cables, but THREAT LEVEL has not yet been able to confirm that's the cause.

Telecoms in Egypt, India, Pakistan and Kuwait (among others) are scrambling to find other arrangements to carry their internet and long distance phone traffic.

Some telecoms had complete outages since their contingency plans if one cable broke was to use the other. Seventy percent of the networks in Pakistan experienced an out, with Egypt, Malidives, Kuwait, Lebanon and Algeria also suffering severe outages, according to traffic analysis by Renesys.

The cuts hit two fiber optic links: FLAG Europe Asia and SEA-ME-WE-4. The two cables are competitors that carry traffic from Europe through the Middle East along to Japan (and vice versa).

FLAG runs about 17,000 miles, stretching from London, through the Suez canal, around India, along China's coast to Japan.

When it was built, the network so impressed sci-fi writer Neal Stephenson that he wrote a 56-page article for Wired magazine's December 1996 issue.

SEA-ME-WE-4 follows roughly the same geographic path.

Given the desire by telecoms and broadband customers to keep costs low, situations like the current cuts will continue to happen, according to Todd Underwood, a Vice President at Renesys, which provides internet information analysis to the majority of the world's largest telecoms.

"Part of the lesson here is that there will always be outages," Underwood said. "This is all about money -- how much money do we want to pay to make sure the network doesn't go down? We are used to thinking of the internet as being a thing that goes down."

The cost of having fully redundant back-ups connections that aren't physically near each other in chokepoints like Egypt's Suez canal is just too high for commercial operations, according to Underwood.

"We have chosen to deal with these outages to get a much much better cost," Underwood says.

That's not to say the outages don't have consequences.

In December 2006, 4 major fiber optic lines were severely damaged following a major earthquake in Taiwan. Subsequent underwater mudslides damaged 9 cables laid in the Luzon Strait south of Taiwan. The cuts basically erased all eastward data routes from Southeast Asia. It took 49 days for crews on 11 giant cable-laying ships to fix all of the 21 damage points, according to the International Cable Protection Committee.

In response, telecoms shifted business away from North America-based backbone providers like AT&T, Level 3 and Savvis and towards European carriers, according to Underwood.

But this go round, the North American carriers might gain from this outage, Underwood suggests.

Network patterns can also physically change after a giant outage. For instance, after seeing the damage in the Taiwan earthquake, a longer, slower and more expensive route around the Philippines suddenly started to appear more attractive, according to Underwood.

THREAT LEVEL would love to give a shout-out to the aviation fear-mongering blog Aviation Nation for hinting that this was the work of terrorists.
 
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