How Pakistan Got The Bomb

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/middle_east/article3137695.ece


The Sunday Times January 6, 2008

For sale: West’s deadly nuclear secrets

A WHISTLEBLOWER has made a series of extraordinary claims about how corrupt government officials allowed Pakistan and other states to steal nuclear weapons secrets.

Sibel Edmonds, a 37-year-old former Turkish language translator for the FBI, listened into hundreds of sensitive intercepted conversations while based at the agency’s Washington field office.

She approached The Sunday Times last month after reading about an Al-Qaeda terrorist who had revealed his role in training some of the 9/11 hijackers while he was in Turkey.

Edmonds described how foreign intelligence agents had enlisted the support of US officials to acquire a network of moles in sensitive military and nuclear institutions.

Among the hours of covert tape recordings, she says she heard evidence that one well-known senior official in the US State Department was being paid by Turkish agents in Washington who were selling the information on to black market buyers, including Pakistan.

The name of the official – who has held a series of top government posts – is known to The Sunday Times. He strongly denies the claims.

However, Edmonds said: “He was aiding foreign operatives against US interests by passing them highly classified information, not only from the State Department but also from the Pentagon, in exchange for money, position and political objectives.”

She claims that the FBI was also gathering evidence against senior Pentagon officials – including household names – who were aiding foreign agents.

“If you made public all the information that the FBI have on this case, you will see very high-level people going through criminal trials,” she said.

Her story shows just how much the West was infiltrated by foreign states seeking nuclear secrets. It illustrates how western government officials turned a blind eye to, or were even helping, countries such as Pakistan acquire bomb technology.

The wider nuclear network has been monitored for many years by a joint Anglo-American intelligence effort. But rather than shut it down, investigations by law enforcement bodies such as the FBI and Britain’s Revenue & Customs have been aborted to preserve diplomatic relations.

Edmonds, a fluent speaker of Turkish and Farsi, was recruited by the FBI in the aftermath of the September 11 attacks. Her previous claims about incompetence inside the FBI have been well documented in America.

She has given evidence to closed sessions of Congress and the 9/11 commission, but many of the key points of her testimony have remained secret. She has now decided to divulge some of that information after becoming disillusioned with the US authorities’ failure to act.

One of Edmonds’s main roles in the FBI was to translate thousands of hours of conversations by Turkish diplomatic and political targets that had been covertly recorded by the agency.

A backlog of tapes had built up, dating back to 1997, which were needed for an FBI investigation into links between the Turks and Pakistani, Israeli and US targets. Before she left the FBI in 2002 she heard evidence that pointed to money laundering, drug imports and attempts to acquire nuclear and conventional weapons technology.

“What I found was damning,” she said. “While the FBI was investigating, several arms of the government were shielding what was going on.”

The Turks and Israelis had planted “moles” in military and academic institutions which handled nuclear technology. Edmonds says there were several transactions of nuclear material every month, with the Pakistanis being among the eventual buyers. “The network appeared to be obtaining information from every nuclear agency in the United States,” she said.

They were helped, she says, by the high-ranking State Department official who provided some of their moles – mainly PhD students – with security clearance to work in sensitive nuclear research facilities. These included the Los Alamos nuclear laboratory in New Mexico, which is responsible for the security of the US nuclear deterrent.

In one conversation Edmonds heard the official arranging to pick up a $15,000 cash bribe. The package was to be dropped off at an agreed location by someone in the Turkish diplomatic community who was working for the network.

The Turks, she says, often acted as a conduit for the Inter-Services Intelligence (ISI), Pakistan’s spy agency, because they were less likely to attract suspicion. Venues such as the American Turkish Council in Washington were used to drop off the cash, which was picked up by the official.

Edmonds said: “I heard at least three transactions like this over a period of 2½ years. There are almost certainly more.”

The Pakistani operation was led by General Mahmoud Ahmad, then the ISI chief.

Intercepted communications showed Ahmad and his colleagues stationed in Washington were in constant contact with attachés in the Turkish embassy.

Intelligence analysts say that members of the ISI were close to Al-Qaeda before and after 9/11. Indeed, Ahmad was accused of sanctioning a $100,000 wire payment to Mohammed Atta, one of the 9/11 hijackers, immediately before the attacks.

The results of the espionage were almost certainly passed to Abdul Qadeer Khan, the Pakistani nuclear scientist.

Khan was close to Ahmad and the ISI. While running Pakistan’s nuclear programme, he became a millionaire by selling atomic secrets to Libya, Iran and North Korea. He also used a network of companies in America and Britain to obtain components for a nuclear programme.

Khan caused an alert among western intelligence agencies when his aides met Osama Bin Laden. “We were aware of contact between A Q Khan’s people and Al-Qaeda,” a former CIA officer said last week. “There was absolute panic when we initially discovered this, but it kind of panned out in the end.”

It is likely that the nuclear secrets stolen from the United States would have been sold to a number of rogue states by Khan.

Edmonds was later to see the scope of the Pakistani connections when it was revealed that one of her fellow translators at the FBI was the daughter of a Pakistani embassy official who worked for Ahmad. The translator was given top secret clearance despite protests from FBI investigators.

Edmonds says packages containing nuclear secrets were delivered by Turkish operatives, using their cover as members of the diplomatic and military community, to contacts at the Pakistani embassy in Washington.

Following 9/11, a number of the foreign operatives were taken in for questioning by the FBI on suspicion that they knew about or somehow aided the attacks.

Edmonds said the State Department official once again proved useful. “A primary target would call the official and point to names on the list and say, ‘We need to get them out of the US because we can’t afford for them to spill the beans’,” she said. “The official said that he would ‘take care of it’.”

The four suspects on the list were released from interrogation and extradited.

Edmonds also claims that a number of senior officials in the Pentagon had helped Israeli and Turkish agents.

“The people provided lists of potential moles from Pentagon-related institutions who had access to databases concerning this information,” she said.

“The handlers, who were part of the diplomatic community, would then try to recruit those people to become moles for the network. The lists contained all their ‘hooking points’, which could be financial or sexual pressure points, their exact job in the Pentagon and what stuff they had access to.”

One of the Pentagon figures under investigation was Lawrence Franklin, a former Pentagon analyst, who was jailed in 2006 for passing US defence information to lobbyists and sharing classified information with an Israeli diplomat.

“He was one of the top people providing information and packages during 2000 and 2001,” she said.

Once acquired, the nuclear secrets could have gone anywhere. The FBI monitored Turkish diplomats who were selling copies of the information to the highest bidder.

Edmonds said: “Certain greedy Turkish operators would make copies of the material and look around for buyers. They had agents who would find potential buyers.”

In summer 2000, Edmonds says the FBI monitored one of the agents as he met two Saudi Arabian businessmen in Detroit to sell nuclear information that had been stolen from an air force base in Alabama. She overheard the agent saying: “We have a package and we’re going to sell it for $250,000.”

Edmonds’s employment with the FBI lasted for just six months. In March 2002 she was dismissed after accusing a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals.

She has always claimed that she was victimised for being outspoken and was vindicated by an Office of the Inspector General review of her case three years later. It found that one of the contributory reasons for her sacking was that she had made valid complaints.

The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations.

Her allegations were heard in a closed session of Congress, but no action has been taken and she continues to campaign for a public hearing.

She was able to discuss the case with The Sunday Times because, by the end of January 2002, the justice department had shut down the programme.

The senior official in the State Department no longer works there. Last week he denied all of Edmonds’s allegations: “If you are calling me to say somebody said that I took money, that’s outrageous . . . I do not have anything to say about such stupid ridiculous things as this.”

In researching this article, The Sunday Times has talked to two FBI officers (one serving, one former) and two former CIA sources who worked on nuclear proliferation. While none was aware of specific allegations against officials she names, they did provide overlapping corroboration of Edmonds’s story.

One of the CIA sources confirmed that the Turks had acquired nuclear secrets from the United States and shared the information with Pakistan and Israel. “We have no indication that Turkey has its own nuclear ambitions. But the Turks are traders. To my knowledge they became big players in the late 1990s,” the source said.

How Pakistan got the bomb, then sold it to the highest bidders

1965 Zulfikar Ali Bhutto, Pakistan’s foreign minister, says: “If India builds the bomb we will eat grass . . . but we will get one of our own”

1974 Nuclear programme becomes increased priority as India tests a nuclear device

1976 Abdul Qadeer Khan, a scientist, steals secrets from Dutch uranium plant. Made head of his nation’s nuclear programme by Bhutto, now prime minister

1976 onwards Clandestine network established to obtain materials and technology for uranium enrichment from the West

1985 Pakistan produces weapons-grade uranium for the first time

1989-91 Khan’s network sells Iran nuclear weapons information and technology

1991-97 Khan sells weapons technology to North Korea and Libya

1998 India tests nuclear bomb and Pakistan follows with a series of nuclear tests. Khan says: “I never had any doubts I was building a bomb. We had to do it”

2001 CIA chief George Tenet gathers officials for crisis summit on the proliferation of nuclear technology from Pakistan to other countries

2001 Weeks before 9/11, Khan’s aides meet Osama Bin Laden to discuss an Al-Qaeda nuclear device

2001 After 9/11 proliferation crisis becomes secondary as Pakistan is seen as important ally in war on terror

2003 Libya abandons nuclear weapons programme and admits acquiring components through Pakistani nuclear scientists

2004 Khan placed under house arrest and confesses to supplying Iran, Libya and North Korea with weapons technology. He is pardoned by President Pervez Musharraf

2006 North Korea tests a nuclear bomb

2007 Renewed fears that bomb may fall into hands of Islamic extremists as killing of Benazir Bhutto throws country into turmoil
 

Wardogs

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[Edmonds’s employment with the FBI lasted for just six months. In March 2002 she was dismissed after accusing a colleague of covering up illicit activity involving Turkish nationals.
She has always claimed that she was victimised for being outspoken and was vindicated by an Office of the Inspector General review of her case three years later. It found that one of the contributory reasons for her sacking was that she had made valid complaints.
The US attorney-general has imposed a state secrets privilege order on her, which prevents her revealing more details of the FBI’s methods and current investigations.]
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Thanks DS, this is a very accurate account of the REAL machinations that have been going on for years now.
In my opinion Sibel Edmonds is a true American hero and I hope her full story can be told someday. Unfortunately some of her facts have been picked up and distorted by the 9/11 "Truthers" for their own agenda. Her facts are critical to the full understanding of who is involved in the greed and corruption surrounding a whole range of government agencies and "assets".
wardogs
 
Very interesting article.

Washington is so corrupt it is beyond all reason....and the mindless sheeple keep marching headlong into catastrophe without a worry in the world...
 
Here

is a link with a lot of associated information also:



http://sibeledmonds.blogspot.com/



FBI, Congress: Sibel Edmonds case 'unclassified'
Former FBI translator and whistleblower Sibel Edmonds is the most gagged woman in US history. Attorney General John Ashcroft twice invoked the rarely used States Secrets Privilege in her case under the guise of classified secrets and protecting national security.

In a recent speech, Sibel again emphasized that the reason that she has been gagged is not for reasons of national security, but rather to cover-up criminality, treason, by high level US officials.

As evidence for this claim, Sibel explained that for the three months prior to Ashcroft blanket-gagging her case, the FBI was conducting unclassified briefings for Congress on the case.

In other words, from the beginning, neither Congress, nor the FBI, even considered that this information might be classified, let alone a 'national security' issue.

As Michael Ostrolenk, National Director of the Liberty Coalition, said: "The excuse of protecting national security is fallacious."

During the Q&A session after the speech, Sibel was asked where we should draw the line between disclosure and national security. Sibel responded thusly (mp3 - 3 mins)"


I can tell you, just from my case (and from other whistleblower cases that I've represented) it almost doesn't deal with any classified information at all. That's why they went and retroactively classified the information.

Even with Congress, one important thing that I have tried to emphasize - and unfortunately the mainstream media is not there really as far as these real issues are concerned... When I went to Congress, I didn't know which Congressmen, Congresswomen, Senators to go to! Because part of my case dealt with our representatives, (and this was based on some counter-intelligence operations) were getting cash bribery from foreign governments. And when I internally started reporting this, and it was not getting anywhere, this great agent that I worked with... said:


"Well, let's say you go to Congress. How are you going to determine who is clean to go to?"


And to me that was really sobering, because he told me:


Just based on Turkish counter-intelligence operations, you know of FOUR corrupt congressional people. Take a look at this room (of translators), we have the Chinese Department, we have, you know, the Arabic, including Saudi Arabia and everything. How many (other corrupt Congressfolk) do you think they have come across?
 

Wardogs

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["Well, let's say you go to Congress. How are you going to determine who is clean to go to?"
And to me that was really sobering, because he told me:
Just based on Turkish counter-intelligence operations, you know of FOUR corrupt congressional people. Take a look at this room (of translators), we have the Chinese Department, we have, you know, the Arabic, including Saudi Arabia and everything. How many (other corrupt Congress folk) do you think they have come across?]

Therein lies the problem doesn't it.

To her credit, Sibel Edmonds HAS named names, and the gag orders on her information should be lifted immediately.
wardogs
 
that's

the thing. If you start to follow some of the links and the video I saw on her, she flat out states this is treason and at the highest levels.

High people in our government are selling nuclear secrets, and facilitating the transfer of that information to foreign governments AND AL Queda........

And the FBI and CIA has a lot of the information and proof......... and the investigations are shut down one after the other...........

This is very very important for every American who is worried about countries like Pakistan, Iran, N. Korea having the bomb.

We have to realize that people very high up in the Pentagon, State, Congress, the Executive are guilty of transfering nuclear information, drug running, etc., TO OUR ENEMIES.

That is how bad things have gotten. Get this story out. SHE IS naming names. And some of those names would shock the hell out of you.
 
I am bumping this for the night crowd.

This is VERY important.

ONE COULD ALMOST THINK THAT PEOPLE (NEO-CONS) HIGH UP IN THE US GOVERNMENT WANTED THE CRAZIES TO GET THE BOMB.................

WHY?:wvflg:
 

Kent

Inactive
This is VERY important.

ONE COULD ALMOST THINK THAT PEOPLE (NEO-CONS) HIGH UP IN THE US GOVERNMENT WANTED THE CRAZIES TO GET THE BOMB.................

WHY?:wvflg:


Neo-cons!!!???

A backlog of tapes had built up, dating back to 1997, which were needed for an FBI investigation into links between the Turks and Pakistani, Israeli and US targets.

Who was POTUS in 1997? Did he sell nuclear secrets to China? :hmm: Then why not Pakistan too?
 

HeliumAvid

Too Tired to ReTire
Once you know it can be done, there is plenty of data in the open press to allow any reasonably schooled Nuclear Engineer to construct a Uranium weapon, and there is enough information out there for any reasonably schooled Nuclear Engineer and a good Explosives Expert to make a Pu weapon. That said, there is plenty of info on how to make multi stage weapons.

What I am trying to say is that the cat is out of the bag. The horses are out of the coral... the genie is out of the bottle.

HeliumAvid
MSEE/Applied Nuclear Physics
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
The story I heard was that immediately after India exploded its atomic bomb on 05/11/1998 several Pakistani officials boarded a plane for Beijing. Fifteen days after India's test, Pakistan exploded its bomb. The joke in India was that it took the Pakistanis fifteen days to translate the Chinese manual. I think there's more truth to this version than the idea that the Pakistanis got their bomb solely from pilfering U.S. nuclear secrets.
 

tanstaafl

Has No Life - Lives on TB
HeliumAvid - I think that, too. I was just trying to show a measure of respect to the posters who posted those responses. I hope it sounded a lot better than me posting a reply that said "Blink ... blink ... blink ... WHAAAAT?!) ;)
 
Sure Kent

follow the leads. Although she HAS been the most gagged person in the political/justice system, and was ordered not to speak about the people,

my understanding at this point is that she HAS posted pics, and other people named them, lol.

and yeah, there are top neo-cons that she has named as being on FBI and CIA taps talking high crimes and misdemeaners.


And, I am one of those unfortunate people that think that the Clintons basically work for the Bushes, and the Bushes work for the Rockerfellers,

so I see a long line of continuity here.
 

Hermit

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This is VERY important.

ONE COULD ALMOST THINK THAT PEOPLE (NEO-CONS) HIGH UP IN THE US GOVERNMENT WANTED THE CRAZIES TO GET THE BOMB.................

WHY?:wvflg:
Pakistan was getting information back in the seventies, long before there were neo-cons (in fact he was getting plans from the liberal Swedes).

Once you know it can be done, there is plenty of data in the open press to allow any reasonably schooled Nuclear Engineer to construct a Uranium weapon, and there is enough information out there for any reasonably schooled Nuclear Engineer and a good Explosives Expert to make a Pu weapon. That said, there is plenty of info on how to make multi stage weapons.

What I am trying to say is that the cat is out of the bag. The horses are out of the coral... the genie is out of the bottle.

HeliumAvid
MSEE/Applied Nuclear Physics
Yes, the cat is out of the bag .... any bright 13 yo student knows the basics of how a nuke works. But it required treason and espionage to get plans and technology that work .... it's not that easy to refine plutonium and uranium to weapons grade, as you know, and it's even harder to buy the purified stuff on the black market.

But the bigger story is the amount of corruption.

The next few centuries are going to be rather grim. I suppose most members here know that already, except for the ones who believe Jesus is about to return.
 

Wardogs

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While DS and I DO go round and round on some of his theories, on the subject of Sibel Edmonds, he is right on. Nuclear secrets constitute a small part of her knowledge. She recently got around a court order to not name names or divulge information by publishing just a list of photos of the people involved with nothing else attached. She does have style... http://letsibeledmondsspeak.blogspot.com/2008/01/sibel-names-names-in-pictures.html
Anyway, it's worth a visit to her site. She has been fighting for years to get her information out, and when it happens, some well known names are going down...HARD. http://justacitizen.com/
wardogs
 
I am bumping this

in support of this thread:


http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showthread.php?p=2686891&posted=1#post2686891


Congresscritter caught in traitorous acts supporting the "enemy".


There ARE more of them out there. There ARE witnesses.

The witnesses ARE being GAGGED. Otherwise the truth might come out and too many Americans will have to wake up and take their heads out of thier as-es.

Here is what I put on that other thread:



I am

giving the link to this other thread - on OUR so called leaders committing treason,

and that includes what this person has done.,

there are more of them out there............... and the truth could be found out very very quickly..........

except the witnesses have BEEN GAGGED.
 

jed turtle

a brother in the Lord
wow! Richard Perle? why?

thanks for the thread. deserves to be bumped often. heads are going to roll.
 
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Jed

his name has come up as have others. Heads won't roll unless the common people take control of government again.

That is the point. The WOLVES have eaten the foxes and are in the henhouse.

Corruption and treason appear to be so rife that no exposure will be allowed, it is that bad. People would rise up.
 
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