Russia sends first shipment of nuclear fuel to Iran's Bushehr power plant

The odds of an Israeli strike in the near future just went up. Israel struck Iraq's Osirak nuke plant just before fuel was added in order to avoid radioactive contamination from destroying the facility.

As I have been seeking to warn the world, Israel and America are being set up by Russia for a surprise nuclear third world war.

Global stock markets are all appear to be on the edge of the Grand Supercycle crash according to the Elliott Wave Principle, so this might be it folks.

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Last update - 10:56 17/12/2007

Russia sends first shipment of nuclear fuel to Iran power plant

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/935394.html

By News Agencies

Tags: Russia, Bushehr, Iran

Russia has made its first shipment of nuclear fuel to Iran's Bushehr plant, which is at the center of the international tensions over Tehran's nuclear program, the Russian Foreign Ministry said Monday.

Iran contends the nuclear power plant operation in Bushehr is strictly for civilian purposes, but many critics suspect Tehran intends to use the plant as part of an alleged effort to develop nuclear weapons.

Russia's foreign ministry said Monday it had received written assurances from Iran that the nuclear fuel delivered to Bushehr will not be used for any other purpose.

A senior Iranian official said on Monday said that Iran will not halt uranium enrichment even with delivery of fuel from Russia, adding he could not yet confirm Iran had received the fuel.

"There is no talk of halting enrichment. Nothing is related to freezing enrichment. The delivery (of fuel) is not in the framework of the [UN] resolutions or the framework of talks," the senior official said.

Asked if Iran would halt enrichment under any condition, he said, "No, not at all."

Construction at Bushehr had been frequently delayed. Officials said the delays were due to payment disputes, but many observers suggested Russia was also unhappy with Iran's obstinate resistance to international pressure to make its nuclear program more open and to ensure the international community that it was not developing nuclear arms.

Last week, Russia announced that its construction disputes with Iran had been resolved.

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August 09, 2004

Israel ready for pre-emptive strike against Iran's nuclear facility

http://web.israelinsider.com/bin/en...hat=object&enZone=Security&enPage=ArticlePage

By Ellis Shuman

The Israeli Air Force has completed military preparations for a pre-emptive strike at Iran's Bushehr nuclear facility and will attack if Russia supplies Iran with rods for enriching uranium, Israeli officials said, according to a report in the London Sunday Times. Military sources said the raid would be carried out by long-range F-15I jets, overflying Turkey, with simultaneous operations by commandos on the ground.

Israel may also choose to launch submarine-based cruise missiles from the Persian Gulf at key Iranian targets, NewsMax.com reported.

The rods, currently stored at a Russian port, are expected to be delivered late next year after a dispute over financial terms is resolved, the paper reported.

An Israeli defense source in Tel Aviv, who confirmed that the military rehearsals had taken place, told the paper: "Israel will on no account permit Iranian reactors - especially the one being built in Bushehr with Russian help - to go critical."

"If the worst comes to the worst and international efforts fail," the source was quoted as saying, "we are very confident we'll be able to demolish the ayatollahs' nuclear aspirations in one go."


The Iranian nuclear threat has been on Israel's agenda for some time, and the issue was raised in talks between Prime Minister Ariel Sharon and U.S. President George W. Bush in Washington last year. The Washington Post reported in August 2003 that administration officials were increasingly concerned that Israel would launch a per-emptive strike against Iran.

In its report, the Sunday Times quoted a senior U.S. official warning of a pre-emptive Israeli strike if Russia continues cooperating with the Iranians. He said Washington was unlikely to block Israeli attacks against Iran.

The paper also quoted from a classified document on the Iranian threat, entitled "The Strategic Future of Israel," which was presented to Sharon earlier this year. The document allegedly advocates military action against "countries which develop nuclear weapons" and describes Iran as a "suicide nation" and recommends "targeted killings" of members of the country's elite, including its leading nuclear scientists.

Israeli sources acknowledged, according to the Sunday Times, that a pre-emptive strike against Iranian nuclear facilities could provoke "a ferocious response," which could involve Lebanese-based rocket attacks on northern Israel or terrorist attacks against Jewish and Israeli targets abroad.

Meanwhile, Jane's Intelligence Digest reported this week that if Israel launches a pre-emptive attack against Iran, it would have to go it alone. "Any joint U.S.-Israeli precision-guided missile strike against Iran's nuclear facilities - Bushehr, Natanz or Arak - is unlikely to prove an attractive option for the U.S. administration while it remains mired in Iraq - which shares a 1,458 kilometer-long border with Iran," Jane's reported.

In 1981, Israeli Air Force jets successfully attacked and destroyed Iraq's nuclear reactor at Osirak. An attack on Iran's nuclear facilities would be much more complicated, Israeli media sources reported, because the country's nuclear program is dispersed at several sites and the distance from Israel is much greater. Iran also has the possibility to retaliate with its Shihab ballistic missiles, the reports said.

Military sources believe the IDF has the capabilities to defend Israel against a possible Iranian missile attack. Officially, due to Israel's reliance on the newly developed Arrow anti-missile defense system, the country is giving priority to diplomatic pressure to combat the Iranian nuclear threat.

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Further assessment - http://cns.miis.edu/pubs/week/040812.htm
 
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chromaphase

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One must now wonder, will the IAF's 69 Squadron soon be in the air?

I've always thought the delivery of nuclear fuel was a 'point of no return' that would bring the thunder.

Buckle up folks...

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bobpick

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Of all the FEMA/CD pamphlets I have read that increasing international tensions would precede a nuclear attack.

I wish I was in charge.
 

Reborn

Seeking Aslan's Country
IAF Training Abroad 'for Iran' :whistle:

(IsraelNN.com) 12/16/07 The Israel Air Force has recently been conducting an increasing number of training missions outside of Israel, over the Mediterranean, in the United States, Canada, Sardinia and other countries.

According to a senior IAF officer who spoke to Ma'ariv/NRG, one of the reasons for this training policy is the Iranian threat: "The IAF's fighter jets need to train for missions against very distant targets, like Iran, and they therefore require long operational ranges," the officer explained. In addition, he said, the IAF fighters use long range radar guided missiles, and therefore need to practice over larger areas, like the sea.

There are other considerations for conducting training abroad, as well, he said: Israel's skies are cluttered with civilian traffic; there are experiments by security industries which hamper flight, and environmental factors, among others.

http://www.israelnationalnews.com/Ne...sh.aspx/138196
 

Worrier King

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The U.S. is a Paper Tiger with a spineless, treasonous leadership who has no interest in effectively looking after our own domestic, national interests, possessing the maturity of a 14 year old hormonally charged boy.

The thought of continuing to pretend we are policeman of the world and act out on the premise that we are going to regulate every nation in the world who has a interest in nuclear power is 40 years outdated and delusional, playing into the ongoing war of economic attrition against the U.S. the dems/repubs either remain clueless and oblivious to, or are actually working for.

You don't hear China incessantly having a hissy fit because Taiwan or Japan has nuclear power.

We don't have the willpower or resources to deal with the Muslim problem, our business right now should be getting our own house in order and quit being busy bodies that makes a growing part of the world fear and hate us.
 
The U.S. is a Paper Tiger with a spineless, treasonous leadership who has no interest in effectively looking after our own domestic, national interests, possessing the maturity of a 14 year old hormonally charged boy.

The thought of continuing to pretend we are policeman of the world and act out on the premise that we are going to regulate every nation in the world who has a interest in nuclear power is 40 years outdated and delusional, playing into the ongoing war of economic attrition against the U.S. the dems/repubs either remain clueless and oblivious to, or are actually working for.

You don't hear China incessantly having a hissy fit because Taiwan or Japan has nuclear power.

We don't have the willpower or resources to deal with the Muslim problem, our business right now should be getting our own house in order and quit being busy bodies that makes a growing part of the world fear and hate us.

Ummm....Israel doesn't have the luxury of ignoring the Muslim problem since it is one atomic bomb away from virtual annihilation and the Islamofascists have made clear their willingness to wipe the Jewish state off the map.

Of course, Russia and the erstwhile Muslim enemies of the free world know this and are exploiting it for a casus belli.
 

Worrier King

Inactive
Ummm....Israel doesn't have the luxury of ignoring the Muslim problem since it is one bomb away from virtual annihilation.

Let Israel deal with them then, they are one of the few nations, other than Russia and chinas, who seem to have a interest in their national and cultural survival and are willing to aggressively act in defending their interests.

AL though they don't have the means to hit all of the 1,000s of targets that would need to be hit simultaneously to prevent a counter-attack.

The facts: With the help or Russia, Iran's going to develop their nuclear program and their isn't much the West can do other than be addicted to foreign - Russian/ muslin/Venezuelan oil.
 

Reborn

Seeking Aslan's Country
Russia's foreign ministry said Monday it had received written assurances from Iran that the nuclear fuel delivered to Bushehr will not be used for any other purpose.

Oh, well then....as long as we have written assurances there's no need to be concerned. :spns:
 

Reborn

Seeking Aslan's Country
Putin Aims to Trump Bush’s Middle East Moves

DEBKAfile Special Report
December 17, 2007, 12:29 PM (GMT+02:00)

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Russian aircraft carrier heads for Mediterranean

The foreign ministry in Moscow announced Monday, Dec. 17, the delivery of the first fuel shipment to power the Iranian nuclear reactor Russia is building at Bushehr. The announcement coincided with an international conference in Paris for 60 countries to consider the Palestinians’ application for $5.6 bn in aid. DEBKAfile’s Moscow sources report this was a deliberate ploy to steal the thunder of an event built up as the sequel of the US-promoted Middle East conference in Annapolis last month.

Our Moscow sources report President Vladimir Putin has adopted the strategy of matching - or topping - every US or Western move concerning the Middle East. He also plans, they reveal, to land in Syria in grand style on New Year’s Eve, a week before US president George W. Bush begins his Middle East tour.

Putin will be flown by Russian helicopter to inspect the Russian flotilla of six warships headed by the Admiral Kuznetsov aircraft carrier, which is due by then to dock in Syria’s friendly Mediterranean Tartous port.

The Russian company building the Bushehr reactor Atomstroiexport said Monday 180 fuel rods would be sent to Bushehr in the next two months, enriched to the same 3.7 percent grade as the product of the Iranian Natanz complex.

The company stresses it is below weapons grade and the containers were inspected and sealed by the UN’s nuclear watchdog. Tehran was said to have provided written assurances that the fuel would not be used anywhere outside Bushehr. The Russian foreign ministry urged Iran to stop enriching uranium, but a senior Iranian official said this would not happen under any circumstances.

Putin, who plans to be filmed worldwide with Russian sailors on the deck of the aircraft carrier, backed by 47 Russian warplanes and 10 helicopters, will be challenging the US Sixth Fleet, the Israeli Navy and UNIFIL’s marine arm for control of the eastern Mediterranean. He will also be marking the end of his eight-year presidency in March with a flourish.

Putin will take the opportunity to pay visits to select Middle East rulers. His bureau is still working on arrangements. The Russian president is reported to be interested in another official visit to Israel, his second, to outdo Bush who is due in Jerusalem and Ramallah on Jan. 9-10 for his first trip to Israel as US president.

Moscow is determined to host the next Israel-Palestinian peace conference next March or April, by which time Putin may have changed hats from president to super prime minister. That session is planned to embrace also Syria’s claim to the Golan held by Israel since 1967, as well as two enclaves, the Shebaa Farms and half of divided Ghajar village, to which Lebanon now lays belated claim. Putin personally interceded with Syrian president Bashar Assad for a delegate to the Annapolis conference and expects to be paid in kind.

The rivalry between Bush’s Washington and Putin’s Moscow for influence in the Middle East is clearly more intense and sharp-edged than generally appreciated. He has made it clear that his government means to be co-opted to US-led moves in the Middle East, or else Moscow will put spokes in Washington’s wheels.

DEBKAfile’s military sources were first out On Dec. 5 with the exclusive disclosure of Moscow’s counter-action to Washington’s decision to whitewash Iran’s nuclear program from 2003, by authorizing completion of the Bushehr reactor and deploying a war fleet in the Mediterranean. Read the original item HERE

http://www.debka.com/article.php?aid=1322
 

UncurledA

Inactive
It just occurred to me that Reborn's article, "Putin Aims to Trump Bush’s Middle East Moves" puts things into a different perspective. We are hurting Israel by our OTHER project of constant warring, intrigue, and maneuvering to dominate Middle East oil. Even Alan Greenspan has now admitted our ME involvement was and is about oil. This has resulted in an ongoing encirclement of Russia policy, which they resent, are acting against, and which vastly complicates Israel's job by forcing alliances not in Israel's interest.

Just another way we are messing over Israel while saying we are their friends.
 

Kadee

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So Russia sells fuel to Iran and Israel does nothing (I don't believe that, but just for the sake of discussion) Who steps up to the market and says. . . hey Russia.. . .we want some of that fine fuel you have for sale too. Saudi? Eygpt? Jordan? Venezula? Cuba?

Do we end up with a whole new weapons race or too much electricity? :whistle:
 

Ragnarok

On and On, South of Heaven
I think we'd go nuclear to prevent a second Jewish holocaust. Just a guess...

No we won't but we WILL go nuclear to prevent any other country access to the "richest treasure in the history of mankind".
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
So Russia sells fuel to Iran and Israel does nothing (I don't believe that, but just for the sake of discussion) Who steps up to the market and says. . . hey Russia.. . .we want some of that fine fuel you have for sale too. Saudi? Eygpt? Jordan? Venezula? Cuba?

Do we end up with a whole new weapons race or too much electricity? :whistle:
Under the terms of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty that we signed along with almost every other nation in the world except Israel they all would qualify with our blessings.

Even GW Bush supports Russia's supplying Iran with the nuclear fuel.


don
 

Kadee

Inactive
Under the terms of the Nuclear Non Proliferation Treaty that we signed along with almost every other nation in the world except Israel they all would qualify with our blessings.

Even GW Bush supports Russia's supplying Iran with the nuclear fuel.


don

Appears that leaves the Israelis smarter than the average bear, aye?
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Appears that leaves the Israelis smarter than the average bear, aye?

It makes them a renegade nation.

If they do use their nukes against another nation they would be left without any supporter in the world.

Well, for about the 10 minutes they continued to exist:D


don
 

Kadee

Inactive
It makes them a renegade nation.

If they do use their nukes against another nation they would be left without any supporter in the world.

Well, for about the 10 minutes they continued to exist:D


don

Or they use them against Iran and the whole world breathes a sigh of relief, whilst calling them dirty names, but do nothing. . . :D
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Or they use them against Iran and the whole world breathes a sigh of relief, whilst calling them dirty names, but do nothing. . . :D
That flat glassy smoking area would be all that is left of the former state of Israel after such an exchange.


don
 

jcberean

Contributing Member
Fulltimer,

That flat glassy smoking area would be all that is left of the former state of Israel after such an exchange.
God will not allow that! Israel is God's chosen land, inhabited by the Jews - God's chosen people! The God of Israel is God!!! Not a fake, not a false idol, but the real McCoy!! His Son's name is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom will soon rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Not to be mistaken for the soon to come anti-christ that will attempt to bring all nations together under a one world government and a one world religion, which by the way will be a false god religion!!

jc
 

AzProtector

Veteran Member
Fulltimer,


God will not allow that! Israel is God's chosen land, inhabited by the Jews - God's chosen people! The God of Israel is God!!! Not a fake, not a false idol, but the real McCoy!! His Son's name is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom will soon rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Not to be mistaken for the soon to come anti-christ that will attempt to bring all nations together under a one world government and a one world religion, which by the way will be a false god religion!!

jc

Are you serious?
 
You are probably right

"Ummm....Israel doesn't have the luxury of ignoring the Muslim problem since it is one atomic bomb away from virtual annihilation and the Islamofascists have made clear their willingness to wipe the Jewish state off the map."


And if the Israeli's use nuke bunker busters, then it WILL bring on a nuke retaliation against Israel sooner or later.

Self fullfilling prophecy pure and simple.


There used to be a Balance of Power in the M.E. That has been missing for several decades now and is what is prompting this arms build up.
 
It is

constantly amazing how many members delude themselves into thinking that the rest of the world is sitting around HOPING that Israel does what these members are praying for,

the rest of the world is not supporting Israel in an attack on Iran. They didn't like or support their massacre of civilians in Lebanon either.

the difference is THEIR PRESS DOES NOT FEED THEM AN ENDLESS STREAM OF POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS DIATRIBES STIRRING UP AN UNENDING RIVER OF HATRED OF ALL THINGS ARAB OR PERSIAN.

you people have no idea how real politic works.

if the Israelis do this there will be a backlash. hopefully it will not be nuclear and will not bring on WWIII.
 

Fulltimer

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Fulltimer,


God will not allow that! Israel is God's chosen land, inhabited by the Jews - God's chosen people! The God of Israel is God!!! Not a fake, not a false idol, but the real McCoy!! His Son's name is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom will soon rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Not to be mistaken for the soon to come anti-christ that will attempt to bring all nations together under a one world government and a one world religion, which by the way will be a false god religion!!

jc

:popcorn1:


don;)
 

mbabulldog

Veteran Member
"The IAF's fighter jets need to train for missions against very distant targets, like Iran, and they therefore require long operational ranges,"


um, looking at a map, Israel and Iran are NOT that far apart. I've gone farther in a Cessna 172! (ok, not without re-fueling, but y'all get my drift).
 
Fulltimer,


His Son's name is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom will soon rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Not to be mistaken for the soon to come anti-christ that will attempt to bring all nations together under a one world government and a one world religion, which by the way will be a false god religion!!

jc

Wow....someone finally get's it.
 

von Koehler

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Fulltimer,


God will not allow that! Israel is God's chosen land, inhabited by the Jews - God's chosen people! The God of Israel is God!!! Not a fake, not a false idol, but the real McCoy!! His Son's name is Jesus Christ of Nazereth, whom will soon rule and reign from Jerusalem for 1000 years. Not to be mistaken for the soon to come anti-christ that will attempt to bring all nations together under a one world government and a one world religion, which by the way will be a false god religion!!

jc

A hypothetical question: If Israel starts a nuclear exchange, and in retaliation it is reduced to a glossy, green gaze which glows in the dark, you would have to say your premise about "god" was wrong?

Flavius Aetius
 

mbabulldog

Veteran Member
A hypothetical question: If Israel starts a nuclear exchange, and in retaliation it is reduced to a glossy, green gaze which glows in the dark, you would have to say your premise about "god" was wrong?

Flavius Aetius


:popcorn1: Pass the popcorn, this thread is about to get interesting...
 

Kadee

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constantly amazing how many members delude themselves into thinking that the rest of the world is sitting around HOPING that Israel does what these members are praying for,

the rest of the world is not supporting Israel in an attack on Iran. They didn't like or support their massacre of civilians in Lebanon either.

the difference is THEIR PRESS DOES NOT FEED THEM AN ENDLESS STREAM OF POLITICAL AND RELIGIOUS DIATRIBES STIRRING UP AN UNENDING RIVER OF HATRED OF ALL THINGS ARAB OR PERSIAN.

you people have no idea how real politic works.

if the Israelis do this there will be a backlash. hopefully it will not be nuclear and will not bring on WWIII.

Take all the religion out of the equation and you still have Iran trying to become the hegemon in the region, just as Sadam tried. The Arabs have no love of the Persians. They are ruled by people who are interested in their own personal power and selling their oil. Iran threatens there lives and their governments. Despite all the condemnation of the Israelis, they would in fact be solving the Arabs problem. Becoming the "balance".

The Israelis kicked the crap out of the Lebs, yet none of the Arabs did anything about it, except complain.

That is real politic.
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Take all the religion out of the equation and you still have Iran trying to become the hegemon in the region, just as Sadam tried. The Arabs have no love of the Persians. They are ruled by people who are interested in their own personal power and selling their oil. Iran threatens there lives and their governments. Despite all the condemnation of the Israelis, they would in fact be solving the Arabs problem. Becoming the "balance".

The Israelis kicked the crap out of the Lebs, yet none of the Arabs did anything about it, except complain.

That is real politic.

When did that happen?

It seems to me Israel had to retreat from Lebanon with their tail between their legs in the last invasion. They went in to rescue one of their soldiers that had been captured and I think he is still there.
That particular campaign did not involve the army of any other nation but simply a rag tag bunch of guerilla fighters.

Course, if Israel is really protected by God anything we might do could be subverting God's will.

I think it is best to back away and see what happens.


don
 

Kadee

Inactive
When did that happen?

It seems to me Israel had to retreat from Lebanon with their tail between their legs in the last invasion. They went in to rescue one of their soldiers that had been captured and I think he is still there.
That particular campaign did not involve the army of any other nation but simply a rag tag bunch of guerilla fighters.

Course, if Israel is really protected by God anything we might do could be subverting God's will.

I think it is best to back away and see what happens.


don

The Lebs are still fixing their bridges, roads, and buildings, or did you miss that part of the war?

Whether Israel is protected by some god is IMO irrelevant. Their national interest is to survive. If they feel they can no longer tolerate what they may feel is too great a risk, of the Iranians, developing nukes, they'll take them out, with or without us.

With the last NIE, it appears we have done just that. Backed away, and let them know they are now on their own. Whether that's right or wrong, I don't know. Time will tell. But, it sure won't surprise me if Israel makes a move.
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
The Lebs are still fixing their bridges, roads, and buildings, or did you miss that part of the war?

Whether Israel is protected by some god is IMO irrelevant. Their national interest is to survive. If they feel they can no longer tolerate what they may feel is too great a risk, of the Iranians, developing nukes, they'll take them out, with or without us.

With the last NIE, it appears we have done just that. Backed away, and let them know they are now on their own. Whether that's right or wrong, I don't know. Time will tell. But, it sure won't surprise me if Israel makes a move.

They had to retreat without achieving their primary objective and the Lebanese army did not even engage them. They were beaten by a few hundred guerilla fighters who were very poorly trained and supplied.



don
 
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