Alternative Cancer Treatments

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I have been researching Alternative Cancer Treatments to aid my aunt, who has been diagnosed with stage 3b lung cancer, in making the most important decision in her life. So far this website I have listed below has some of the best information on alternative treatments I have been able to find.

She was pressured into scheduling kemo treatments right away without even a suggestion that she get a second opinion. She canceled at the last minute and the family is now delving deep into alternative treatments or those that could be used along side with Kemo.

I personally know a surviver of stage five skin cancer (met her in 97 after cure)who was told to go home and put her affairs in order, as there was nothing more they could do. She is cancer free today after curring herself. And by the way, she is a medical professional.

Maybe the information in this thread will help someone in a similar situation.

Did you know there are natural or alternative cancer treatments that can provide a 97% true cure rate on recently diagnosed cancer patients, and can even achieve a 50% true cure rate on cancer patients given up on by orthodox medicine?
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http://cancertutor.com/



This treatment here seems to be the one best suited for my aunt...

The Cesium Chloride / DMSO Protocol For Treating Cancer

http://cancertutor.com/Cancer/Alkaline.html


Does anyone have any other suggestions or first hand experience with cancer?

Just remember...the medical industry is FOR PROFIT!!!

So don't just believe everything they say as truth.

My aunts oncologist, when asked about changing her diet, said something to the effect that diet has nothing to do with it and would not help.


Imo, they really did a poor job of informing her of exactly what her illness was, how advanced it is and her true options, including her survival rate.

After 4 weeks in hospital and rehab, the day she was to be discharged to go home and prepare for Kemo, which was the next day, we found out they were giving her only 6 months to live.

Guess who had to tell her this news?:shk:
 
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Energy_Wave,

You may want to have your aunt tell her doctor that she'd like to try Tarceva instead of chemo. It's a pill - you take once a day and was originally made for lung and pancreatic cancers. It doesn't have the usual side effects of chemo like weight loss, hair loss or fatigue... It's been very successfull with reversing the cancers and holding them off for a long time. She could take this while she's looking into alternative treatments and buy her some time. Tarceva is very expensive - but insurance should cover it. If she can get her doctor to also prescribe Celebrex with it - it can make the Tarceva more effective.

www.Tarceva.com

If her oncologist isn't aware of this drug - then she needs a new doctor.

As far as the cure zone is concered...there are many interesting therapies in it but some I question.

The cesium/dmso therapy seems good in theory. The only problem would be if it works as it says - the huge die off of cancer cells in her lungs could harm her. There is a complete therapy protocol that has to be followed - including diet .

I just don't know what the best alternative cancer treatment is for her kind of cancer...I'm still investigating many for myself. The Baking Soda/dmso is interesting too. It seems very similar to the cesium/dmso - in that they both raise the PH levels in the tumor areas and kill the cancer cells.
I wish I could help you more. Try to get her the Tarceva to buy her quality time and perhaps reverse her cancer.
 
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Thanks, I'll look into it. I have three people looking into treatment, all relatives and one has Roswell connections.
 
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Check the Alternative Medicine section for 'Baking Soda Kills Cancer' information.

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I have first hand knowledge of a friend who had breast cancer. She had one breast removed and after doing extensive research opted out of radiation treatments. This was several years ago and she is doing just fine. On the other hand, I had a lumpectomy with over the top radiation treatments and now I have alzheimers......hmmmmmmmmmm! I don't know if there is a correlation or not but it does make one wonder. I really think they overdid the radiation because I had good insurance. Life is a crap shoot so ya'll be careful out there.
 
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Just remember...the medical industry is FOR PROFIT!!!........my aunts oncologist, when asked about changing her diet, said something to the effect that diet has nothing to do with it and would not help.
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your first point FOR PROFIT DOC'S, my neighbor has just finished breast cancer, surger, chemo and radiation, and I am asking WHY HER DOCTOR DID NOT REMOVE THE CYST THAT THEY STUDIED FOR FIVE YEARS, AND NOT DO A PREMEPTIVE SURGICAL STRIKE AND REMOVE IT BEFORE IT BIOPSIED AS CANCER POSITIVE..........


Point Two, We all now know that sugar and corn syrup acidifies the body, and that soda is the very last drink a cancer victim should ever drink. Cancer prevention is in an alkaline blood system. So what does the chemo nurse give as hydration while injecting the chemo drugs under doctors orders?!!!

Of course, your choice of ten types of soda or diet soda.


We all Will pray for your aunt.
But dont give up. Doctors really dont know a thing about human beings and the will to survive. I go to church with a 104 year old who was Dx with cervical cancer and given mo more than six months to live in 1968. She went to Germany to alternative meds forty years ago and has been on the Budwig flax diet ever since. She Still walks to church from the parking lot and is crystal clear minded.

Even if your aunts time is limited the Essiac Teas will at least ease her transistions.


Here is a direct quote I posted on a thread
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Tarceva is very expensive - but insurance should cover it. If she can get her doctor to also prescribe Celebrex with it - it can make the Tarceva more effective.

www.Tarceva.com

If her oncologist isn't aware of this drug - then she needs a new doctor.
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ALL DRUGS are expensive, and if you really cant afford them you need to mention to your doctor or your pharmacist and ask for free samples instead of prescriptions or to be added to the free drug programs.
 
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Check the Alternative Medicine section for 'Baking Soda Kills Cancer' information.

Moggy
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During my last year and a half of cancer, I have tried to dive deep into understanding the cause. I have to admit, many times I have been left with the conclusion that cancer resembles a fungus in it's ability to protect it'self once inside of a cell, in it's appetite for sugars and in it's close relation to inflammation.

I would back off of this theory and look at something else..but I would somehow always come back to a fungal or yeast infection. :shr: I know that cancer patients are always prone to candida infections - supposedly due to a poor immune system caused by chemo and radiation...or just the cancer itself. But - what if the yeast infection was always there? What if it was the cause of the cancer? There are no studies on this that I could find. It seems logical that a condition like Candida, that affects virtually 100% of cancer patients should be investigated as a possible cause as well as the opportunistic infection that it is currently treated as.

One thing that really raised my eyebrows about a possible link between cancer and fungus - was last years respiratory infections here in Washington State. So many people came down with this odd and terrible lung infection. I read the obituaries daily and saw so many elderly died of a "brief" illness decsribed as a lung infection or respiratory illness. At the same time, there were other elderly people who died from a "very brief" battle with lung cancer. :hmm: I started to wonder if both conditions were the same. The lung infections were caused by a mycoplasma - or fungus. If you look at CT scans for lungs with mycoplasma infections and compare them to lung cancers - you will see such a similarity! (do a google image search under CT mycoplasma lung and lung cancers)..

If todays cancer is borne of a fungus then we have had something introduced into our environment to cause this fairly recently. :confused: Could be an immune problem caused by something, could be a genetic mutation caused by food gene modification, could even be caused by our use of antibiotics... I haven't got that far yet..:D..

I know that many cancer medications specifically state anti-fungals as a drug interaction because they will increase the cancer drugs effectiveness to the point of toxicity. That should be a clue....:rolleyes:

What could it possibly hurt - for a researcher to try treating cancer with strong anti-fungals? I know this is the theory behind the baking soda cancer treatments.
That raising the alkaline environment of the cancer kills the cancer immediately....as it would a fungus. I think for a quick fix of cancer - these anti-fungal/increase PH therapies may be great. But I think we have to find out how we got this mycoplasma in the first place so it doesn't continue to come back.

I have to tell you, I keep coming back to fungal and bacterial/viral infections along with inflammation as the constants in cancer. They are always involved. Staph and Strep are always there in some capacity too...
 
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CANDIDA RESPONSIBLE FOR CANCER

When compared with the whole universe of fungi forms mycetes that are pathogenic for humans are not very numerous.

They usually cause diseases called mycosis, which are commonly divided into superficial (when the infection is limited to the cutis, body hair, hair of the head, and nails) and deep (when the infection attacks internal organs such as lung, intestine encephalus, bones, and others). The fungi are generally classified as:

* 1. dermatorphytes, causing afflictions that are typical of the epidermis (tinea)
* 2. sporotrichum schenckii, which are also almost exclusively located on the epidermis
* 3. Criptococcus neoformans, responsible for a diffused infection of the lung (the organisms are inhaled with dust) as well as chronic meningitis
* 4. Histoplasma capsulatum, which in humans produces the nodular cutaneous form, mucous form, the pulmonary form, and the systemic form.
* 5. Actinomycetes, with pathogenic action on the cutis, lungs, and intestine
* 6. Chrysosporium parvum (causal agent of the adiasphyromycosis), a cosmopolitan disease where the respiratory tract constitutes the primary and only localization of the infection
* 7. Aspergillus fumigatus, cause of the Aspergillosis, whose most frequent location is in the lungs, followed by a secondary location in the cerebrum and in the kidneys
* 8. Paracocci dioides brasiliensis, which causes the paracoccidioidomycosis, a primary pulmonary infection that can become diffused in immuno-depressed patients
* 9. In recent years, Pheoiphomycosis ialiphmycosis, pennicilinosis (marneffei), zigomicosis and other rare mycotic infections are acquiring more and more importance since they can be responsible for pathological scenarios that are sometimes very serious because of the compromised conditions of immuno-compromised patients.
* 10. Candida, both as Albicans and as any other pathogenic stock which afflicts the cutis, nails, internal mucus membranes (oral cavity, vulvar vaginitis, urethritis, balanitis, perianal infection), bronchi and lungs.

Candida is also responsible for causing generalized forms of septicemia of remarkable gravity.

The gravest disease of humanity is, therefore, hidden within this grouping of fungi. Some further analysis will make it easier to identify the cause.

Dermatorphytesand sporotrichum are responsible for a morbidity that is too specific. We know from experience that Actinomycetes, Criptococcus, Hystoplasm, Chrysosporium, Paracoccidioides and other causal agents of Pheoiphomycosis ialiphmycosis, pennicilinosis, zigomicosis are very rarely part of a pathological context. Finally, Aspergillus can be considered a variation of Candida. Only one of the six kinds described above remains as the sole responsible agent for tumors: Candida.

http://www.curenaturalicancro.com/2-candida-responsible-cancer.html
 
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What could have produced this cancer causing strain of Candida over the past few decades? Or has something changed in our immune systems ability to fight off a "regular" strain of Candida? If so - what caused the change?

So...Either we have a new or mutated form of Candida or another mycoplasma out there that we've been exposed to and is causing these cancers...or something in our immune system has been modified to not be able to destroy a usually non-lethal form of Candida. If you look at the rise of autoimmune system disorders over the same time that cancers began to increase - there appears to be a similar time frame. Could tumors be part of an autoimmune process trying to encapsulate an invading fungus? :confused: Not without help from the invading yeast to proliferate....Why does it manifest in so many different ways?

The possibilities are endless! :D That's one reason I like the concept of the Baking Soda treatment...It just kills the cancer first and asks questions later...;)

If cancer is related to a fungus the fungus is extremely sophisticated in its ability to morph and avoid destruction once in the cells. Cancer can also change during chemotherapy and become drug resistant. Its like a perfect weapon against the current cancer treatments of today. :shr: Why do we even use these conventional treatments anymore? It knows how to survive and change and spread with the current toxic drugs and radiation thrown at it. If a surgeon cuts into it - it spills out into another area. I wonder what it does when sodium bicarbonate attacks it? Does it just dissolve? Can it create a resistance? Does it run to another area?

Interesting concept.....Cancer as a fungus.
 
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NC Susan said:
We all Will pray for your aunt.
But dont give up. Doctors really dont know a thing about human beings and the will to survive. I go to church with a 104 year old who was Dx with cervical cancer and given mo more than six months to live in 1968. She went to Germany to alternative meds forty years ago and has been on the Budwig flax diet ever since. She Still walks to church from the parking lot and is crystal clear minded.


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This is the website for the Budwig Diet, the full recipe is very simple...

http://www.cancure.org/budwig_diet.htm

Budwig Diet

The Flaxseed (Linseed) oil diet was originally proposed by Dr. Johanna Budwig, a German biochemist and expert on fats and oils, in 1951. Dr. Budwig holds a Ph.D. in Natural Science, has undergone medical training, and was schooled in pharmaceutical science, physics, botany and biology. She is best known for her extensive research on the properties and benefits of flaxseed oil combined with sulphurated proteins in the diet, and over the years has published a number of books on the subject, including "Cancer--A Fat Problem," "The Death of the Tumor," and "True Health Against Arteriosclerosis, Heart Infarction & Cancer."

Dr. Budwig found that the blood of seriously ill cancer patients was deficient in certain important essential ingredients which included substances called phosphatides and lipoproteins, while the blood of a healthy person always contains sufficient quantities of these essential ingredients.

She found that when these natural ingredients where replaced over approximately a three month period, tumors gradually receded, weakness and anemia disappeared and life energy was restored. Symptoms of cancer, liver dysfunction and diabetes were alleviated.

Dr. Budwig then discovered an all natural way for people to replace those essential ingredients their bodies so desperately needed in their daily diet. By simply eating a combination of just two natural and delicious foods not only can cancer be prevented but in case after case it was
actually cured. (These two natural foods, organic flax seed oil & cottage cheese) must be eaten together to be effective since one triggers the properties of the other to be released.)

After more than 10 years of solid clinical application, Dr. Budwig's natural formula has proven successful where many orthodox remedies have failed. Dr. Budwig's formula has been used therapeutically in Europe for prevention of: cancer, arteriosclerosis, strokes, cardiac infarction,
stomach ulcers (normalizes gastric juices), Prostate (hypertopic), arthritis (exerts a favorable
influence), eczema (assists all skin diseases), and even immune deficiences.

Thousands have been helped by her protocol. Testimonials can be found for almost every type of cancer and tumors, even late stage. Dr. Budwig has assisted many seriously ill individuals, even those given up as terminal by orthodox medical practitioners, to regain their health through a simple regimen of nutrition. The basis of Dr. Budwig's program is the use of flaxseed oil blended with low-fat cottage cheese.

Dr. Johanna preaches against the use of what she calls "pseudo" fats - "hydrogenated," "partially hydrogenated" and even "polyunsaturated." The chemical processing causes the oils to become a harmful substance deposited within the body. The heart, for instance, rejects these fats and they end up as inorganic fatty deposits on the heart muscle itself. They end up blocking circulation, damage heart action, inhibit cell renewal and impede the free flow of blood and lymph fluids.

Science has proven that fats play an important role in the functioning of the entire body. Fats (lipids) are vital for all growth processing, renewal of cells, brain and nerve functions. Our energy resources are based on lipid metabolism. To function efficiently, cells require true polyunsaturated, live electron-rich lipids, present in abundance in raw flaxseed oil.

Lipids are only water-soluble and free-flowing when bound to protein; thus the importance of protein-rich cottage cheese. When high quality, electron-rich fats are combined with proteins, the electrons are protected until the body requires energy. This energy source is then fully and immediately available to the body on demand, as nature intended.

Budwig claims that the diet is both a preventative and a curative. She says the absence of linol-acids [in the average western diet] is responsible for the production of oxydase, which induces cancer growth and is the cause of many other chronic disorders.

The theory is: the use of oxygen in the organism can be stimulated by protein compounds of sulphuric content, which make oils water-soluble and which is present in cheese, nuts, onion and leek vegetables such as leek, chive, onion and garlic, but especially cottage cheese.

It is essential to use only unrefined, cold-pressed oils with high linolic acid content, such as linseed, sunflower, soya, poppyseed, walnut, and flax oils. Such oil should be consumed together with foods containing the right proteins otherwise the oils will have the OPPOSITE EFFECT, causing more harm than good.

The best combination is cottage cheese and linseed oil. The linseed should be freshly ground. Carbohydrates containing natural sugar, such as dates, figs, pears, apples and grapes, can also be included in the diet. Honey is also beneficial. She feels most of the synthetic vitamin A preparations are bad because they contain oxidation products, but much carotene as pro-vitamin A (from carrot) is consumed. Vitamin B from buttermilk, yogurt, and natural yeast is beneficial.


A person requires daily about 4 oz. of cottage cheese mixed well with 1.5 oz. of linseed oil. A blender or egg beater works fine. The mixture an be sweeten with honey or otherwise flavored naturally. Fresh fruits can be added.
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If todays cancer is borne of a fungus then we have had something introduced into our environment to cause this fairly r...............
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great point expose......


Having lived in the same house in the same town for the last 25 years, we are all trying to figure out the mold and fungus and GREEN mildew that is growing on houses and school sidings. Doesnt matter if its brick, wood, aluminum, or vinyl, EVERYone seems to have green mold on their homes. The school system has spent thousands of dollars cleaning building. This was unheard of a decade ago???????

Since this mold FUNGUS wasnt occuring 15 years ago, but then neither were all the kids in the county seem to be developing increased cancer and lukemia, asthmas etc.
Will be attending a funeral for a 17 year old likemia victim neighbor tomorrow. an only child, and a delightful thoughtful fun young girl. Could have had a brilliant future, but cut short by cancer.)
(Yes, mold creeps up on her brick house also, and is the backyard to the other neighbor who has just finished breast cancer Rx)
 
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If todays cancer is borne of a fungus then we have had something introduced into our environment
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Look into Chemtrails and you will find mention of mycoplasmas. If true, they might be using them to digest the toxins we have in the air. If they are growing on siding, they might be digesting the lead in the paint. Think what they do to a smokers lungs.

There is also a fungus that shoots spores great distances, I can't think of the name but it can shoot spores something like 10 feet. I have it on my lead painted wood siding. Only thing you can do is paint over it, although I haven't yet tried bleach with vinegar, nasty stuff but it kills!!!

Is this also a way to depopulate the earth?

Not to cause thread drift on my own thread but this might be one of the reasons.

Bottom line is to keep aware of whats going on in the environment.

No back to cancer treatments.

I looked into nutrition2000's site and contacted them. Seems the FDA shut them down in a way, the man behind it all no longer sells the cure but he does have his own consulting site. I tried archive.org and...well...someone doesn't even want you to see their archived pages because they are gone for good.
 
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<< But I think we have to find out how we got this mycoplasma in the first place so it doesn't continue to come back.>>

I have to tell you, I keep coming back to fungal and bacterial/viral infections along with inflammation as the constants in cancer.>>


How we attract a particular disease is dependent on our thinking. I am not speaking of thoughts of which we are conscious but of unconscious thoughts of which we are unaware. The only way I know of to plumb those depths are through astrology and so I have done this...for over 30 years. In medical astrology we speak of constants of disease as they relate to specific planets, thus, the disease cancer has birth-chart constants: Saturn, Jupiter, Moon and Neptune prominent and usually afflicted. Each planet represents a specific type of thought-cell activity; under discordant Saturn and Jupiter thought-cell activity some cells become immune to the chemical control processes provided by the hormones and are no longer subject to the growth restraint which regulates the normal cells surrounding them. This malfunctioning produces a virus.

Fungus comes under rulership of Moon and Neptune. Neptune influences the hormone of the pineal gland and the hormone of the parathyroid glands. Parathyrin controls the calcium metabolism of the body. All planets influence hormonal secretions so that when under affliction chemical imbalance is caused in the blood stream which is coincident with and encourages the development of cancer.

My personal theory is that we need to keep our lymphatic systems clean so that we do not attract this disease...as the spleen, largest lymphoid organ in the body, filters and removes bacteria and serves as a reservoir for blood. One of the best ways to do this is by drinking barley water...it is alkaline.

The major problem in supplying our bodies with nutritional requirements is that when transiting and progressed planets are in adverse relationship to our natal planets, unconscious thoughts are triggered that lead us in the opposite direction.
Only by becoming familiar with our birthcharts can we determine the specific nutritional factors required to maintain health...aside from taking that responsibility, we are like leaves blowing in whatever wind may prevail.

Moggy
 
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Dr. Budwig's diet. Follow it to the letter.

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investing all the time and money and study that I put into Dr. Budwig and oils and fats, you can get a very good synopsis here:


http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Budwig.html



cancer, heart, arthritis, low energy, etc.,

it deals with the basic power and energy of the human body and how to get your groove back,

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oil very much has cancer fighting properties, but you will need to read the work and results of Dr. Johanna Budwig.

It is very complex, the mixing of the oil with sulpher bearing protiens, of which cottage cheese is an acceptable substitute for german quark.

However, organic cottage cheese would be best, or homemade, as the regular stuff probably has preservatives which generally work by cutting off oxygen, which is what you need for health and to cure cancer.

http://www.lightsv.org/bud1.htm



Based on these observations, Dr. Budwig began treating her patients by giving them a combination of high quality flax seed oil, which is rich in Omega3 oil, and quark, which is something similar to cottage cheese or yogurt in that it is rich in high quality protein. Quark is difficult to obtain in the U.S, but either yogurt, cottage cheese, skim milk, soy milk or rice milk is a good substitute. (For the proper ratio of oil to protein, please see experiment.)

The reason for the mixture of the oil with a high quality protein is that by combining the protein with the oil, the oil becomes water soluble in the body and can be absorbed more readily. It can enter the smallest capillaries, dissolving any of the undesirable fats and cleaning out the veins and arteries. It also strengthens the heart, dissolves tumors and cures arthritis.

It sounds like a lot, but it really works. Dr. Budwig worked with many patients who were terminally ill and some who had only hours to live. She gave them the combination of oil-protein plus organic foods, plus exercise, fresh air and used the healing powers of the sun to cure these "hopeless" cases who sometimes started to show improvement within days. Following is a quote from one of her books:

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One of the significant aspects of Dr. Budwig's work is that she has discovered, (or rather rediscovered) the affinity of the human body with the sun. If the body has the right balance of oils and proteins, it has a magnetic field which attracts the photons in sunlight and thus is open to the healing powers of the sun.
 
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Good source for information

You need to look up the Cancer Control Society. They are a sort of clearing house for information on alternative as well as conventional cancer treatments. It will help you sort through all of the good and bad information out there. You might also want to check out http://www.thedcasite.com/. I know DCA has been receiving a lot of attention
 
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I looked into nutrition2000's site and contacted them. Seems the FDA shut them down in a way, the man behind it all no longer sells the cure but he does have his own consulting site. I tried archive.org and...well...someone doesn't even want you to see their archived pages because they are gone for good.
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I got a funny feeling about this place after talking to the owner..(or former owner) "Larry". I was asking about their liquid cesium product with potassium and dmso (which I already thought was too pricey at $124.00.) He told me not to use it - it wouldn't help my cancer...:confused: then he went on to try to sell me on his major cancer protocol whch costs around $3000.00 for 90 days! He wouldn't give any info on this protocol - no description of the supplements involved, no guarantees. Everytime I tried to describe my type of cancer to him - he talked over me saying he's seen it all, it's in the blood, (actually - mine is in the lymph fluid - then goes to the blood..) blah blah blah! He wouldn't allow me to ask questions, he wouldn't allow me to test his knowledge - just wanted me to buy this expensive product...:rolleyes: At the end of our conversation - when he realized I probably wasn't going to buy his major protocol - he suggested that I try the cesium product..because "it might work"..:rolleyes:

I walked away wondering how many poor people with cancer are railroaded into buying this man's expensive product with no information and no guarantee or statistics on its effectiveness.....:shk:

People with cancer are more desperate now than ever before! Many have seen their friends and close family members die under the care of conventional medicines. They don't want to go that route! I don't want to go that route! But you have to calm down and think rationally before you shell out big bucks for so-called miracle cures! Find alternative treatments that not only fight your cancer but help to build up your immune system and general health - that way if it doesn't help to reduce your cancer it will still help to strengthen your body for the fight! Watch the prices of items found on the internet! If its a natural product and its costing more than you would spend in your health food store - chances are its a scam!

I know I could have the baking soda treatment performed in my state for a a few hundred dollars. That would be a bargain considering the ingredients, initial medical consultation and set up and follow up! (I'm still too chicken to try it..:D) But I like that its there as an option.

I found for me - the best treatment so far for pain is by mixing 1 teaspoon of baking soda with 4 teaspoons of water and 1 teaspoon of hydrogen peroxide - mix it up and get pure cotton pads (like those you get at a pharmacy) and soak the pads in the mixture and take rose scented dmso cream (because it doesn't give you that garlic smell) rub on the skin and add the pad.. I've had instant relief for hours and hours with this when everything else failed...I spent under $15.00 for a good supply. The skin must be cleaned before application because dmso will bring anything on your skin into your body... My pain comes from lymphedema in my leg. I place this on the leg below the tumor and I can feel a coolness radiating down my leg as though its putting out a fire and the pain just dissolves. Is it the baking soda? the hydrogen peroxide? I know its not just the dmso because I've been using it forever and never had this much relief.

I am my own lab rat and do not advise anyone to try these things. I have limits on what I will take and do for my cancer. You should too! I know that this mixture would be great for a sports injury and I know the dillution makes it safe for me - it may not be good for you or your situation. (it's kind of my chicken way of lightly testing the baking soda treatment without needles...:eek: )

My advice is to be calm and be wise and really research your alternative options. If you can't get straight answers about a product or protocol - then go onto another!
 
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<< . Neptune influences the hormone of the pineal gland and the hormone of the parathyroid glands. Parathyrin controls the calcium metabolism of the body. All planets influence hormonal secretions so that when under affliction chemical imbalance is caused in the blood stream which is coincident with and encourages the development of cancer.
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Neptune isnt the only thing messing with the pineal gland. Flouride messes with and resets the timing of the pineal gland. (pineal is responsible for day/night release of growth hormones and melatonin and the regulation of energy)

In other words, a toxic flouride could be responsible for the failed immune and the increased ADD that we are seeing in the exhausted and cranky kids, or dimentia and early altzheimers.

Just heard (OF COURSE ITS ON AM RADIO) that researchers are about to look into the massive increase of childhood allergies to peanuts. Unheard of one generation ago.
I recall that peanuts are a no eat for cancer victims because they are fungal by nature...........which again goes back to expose more recent post.......is cancer a fungus?
 
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We have just funded a study "... to assess the possible long-term, delayed toxic effects of low-level, subclinical exposure to the nerve agent sarin, alone, or in combination with other factors. These factors include stress, heat, pyridostigmine bromide (PB), DEET, and permethrin, all of which are conditions that American Soldiers may have been exposed to during the Persian Gulf War." [Ref a].
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This study if focused on neurological effects. The literature review did not mention some recent animal studies [Ref b, c, d, and e] showing the neurotoxicity of one of the in vivo hydrolysis products of Sarin: fluoride. Fluoride and/or aluminum fluoride have been found to accumulate in the hippocampus and pineal gland, to cause damage to brain cells, to cause deposits in the brain, to affect behavior, and to damage the production of the sleep enhancing hormone, melatonin. Fluoride has also been shown to affect pseudocholinesterase activity [Ref f]. Effects on human behavior are reported in a review article [Ref g]. Researchers conducting studies on the effects of neurotoxic agents should be concerned about the known neurological effects of fluoride and aluminum fluoride. Both substances can be found in varying amounts in animal feed and drinking water and could affect the results of this study.
 
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The effects of fluoride and aluminum fluoride are even more important for the ultimate object of this study - soldiers. Soldiers (and Americans in general) are exposed throughout their life to both aluminum and fluoride in doses similar to those shown in the referenced animal studies. Based on these studies, one could assume that soldiers may already have incurred sub-clinical damage and carry a significant body burden of fluoride in the brain. This precondition may have been a factor in Gulf War Illness, and this possibility should be a factor in the design of any study purporting to address the effects of sarin and other factors that may have affected soldiers in the Gulf War. The fact that sarin itself hydrolyzes to fluoride adds an additional incentive to the need for study.


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Varner [Ref b] found that rats fed AlF3 in their drinking water at 0.5 ppm had more than twice the levels of aluminum in the brain than controls, and there were "... significant reductions in the number of neurons in the hippocampal CA1 and CA3 ..." [The hippocampus is associated with memory and behavior.] and "... the cells of the hippocampal formation appeared disorganized and many cells in all subdivisions stained excessively for Nissil-like proteins and that may reflect cellular dysfunction ..." Also, "... observations suggest that the cerebral blood flow may be compromised during AlF3 toxicity and that this could lead to reduced metabolic activities throughout most if not all of the brain."


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Luke [Ref c] found that fluoride deposited in the pineal gland. The results of her study "... suggest F has an inhibitory effect on the melatonin biosynthetic pathway."


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According to Mullenix [Ref d], fluoride levels increased significantly in various regions of the brain of rats exposed pre or post-natally to fluoride in their drinking water. Serum levels in the rats were similar to those in humans exposed to 5 ppm in their drinking water. Mullenix found that severe behavioral disruption increased as plasma fluoride levels increased. Mullenix noted that "... the behavioral changes from fluoride exposure are consistent with interrupted hippocampal development." She found that animals exposed as adults became hypoactive. This phenomena has already been reported in workers exposed to fluoride [Ref g].


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Just last year, Isaacson [Ref 4] reported on an experiment using NaF alone. He found that fluoride in drinking water at 1.0 ppm (the level recommended for drinking water) increased the level of aluminum in the brain by almost 75%. Isaacson theorized that the fluoride complexed with the aluminum in the feed forming AlF3 which then penetrated into the brain. [Humans, of course, also have aluminum in their food]. In the NaF treated animals, they found neuronal abnormalities. Cells were distorted and cell losses in different regions of the brain were noted. This paper also discussed the previous study on AlF3 [Ref b] noted that both AlF3 treated animals and NaF animals were found to have "... general impairment in the immune capacities of the treated subjects."


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Artemisinin...I have read lengthy reports on it's curative powers to defeat Cancer.

You have to be smoke-free for 90 days for it to work correctly.

It is a natural derivative of wormwood called artemisia used to treat Malaria when the chemo drug Plaquenil fails.

I have to take Plaquenil for my rheumatoid arthritis so I read as much as I could about it before I began using it.

I have a bottle of Artemisin I purchased on Amazon.com in the medicine cabinet but haven't quit smoking cigarettes long enough to give it a try.

Seems everyone who had Cancer that came down with Malaria was cured of their Malaria as well as Cancer...all forms!

Do a search on it, the clinical studies are amazing. If you can't find the research I will be glad to send you the reports.
 
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http://fluoridealert.org/pesticides/epage.cryolite.effects.htm




snip..............>When the EPA treats cryolite simply as a source of fluoride they oversimplify the chemistry. In addition to fluoride there will be free aluminum ions present or intermediate aluminum-fluoride complexes. There are several lines of scientific evidence to suggest that fluoride in the presence of aluminum is a far greater concern than fluoride alone. In this respect one key experiment was conducted by Varner et al. (1998) which showed greater impacts on the brain with rats treated with aluminum fluoride at 1 ppm fluoride than sodium fluoride at 1 ppm fluoride. This study is discussed elsewhere in this critique.

There are several experiments reported in the literature where fluoride in the presence of a trace amount of aluminum triggers the G-protein messenger transmission system for water soluble hormones, neural [FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]transmitters, and certain growth factors. This is potentially extremely serious and is discussed elsewhere in this critique. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]... the Agency has determined that although, fluoride accumulation is demonstrated in a number of studies, the accumulation itself is not considered an adverse effect. [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Anything that accumulates in the human body is potentially dangerous. This is why the body has mechanisms to get rid of fat soluble toxins otherwise they accumulate in fat. And that is why water soluble substances like fluoride are excreted through the kidney. However, it's generally accepted that 50% of the fluoride (for healthy people under fifty years of age -ATSDR, 1993, p 112) is not excreted and accumulates in the bone. It would be reckless to assume that fluoride accumulation from ALL sources that we are exposed to including pesticide residues will not cause deleterious effects on the bone and the pineal gland.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Until Jennifer Luke's work (1997, 2001) many people were unaware that the pineal gland produced the same crystals of calcium hydroxy apatite as the bones and teeth. It is shocking that no U.S. agency has yet to address Luke's studies in any public statement or peer reviewed document. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Luke's work is particularly illuminating in this respect because not only did she show that fluoride accumulated in the human pineal gland but she also showed that it lowered the production of melatonin in animal studies, the hormone that is produced in this gland. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Luke also noted a finding from the first 10-year follow-up health study of the Newburgh-Kingston fluoridation trial (which was not thought significant at the time) that on average the girls in Newburgh started menstruating 5 months earlier than the girls in the control, non-fluoridated, city of Kingston (Schlesinger et al., 1956). Thus one of the risks we may be taking by exposing our whole population to fluoride is interfering with delicate regulatory timing processes, from the onset of puberty to the aging process...[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Varner JA et al. (1998). Chronic administration of aluminum-fluoride or sodium-fluoride to rats in drinking water: alterations in neuronal and cerebrovascular integrity. Brain Research, 784, 284-298. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]ATSDR (1993). Toxicological profile for fluorides, hydrogen fluoride, and fluorine (F). U.S. Department of Health and Human Services, Public Health Service, Agency for Toxic Substances and Disease Registry. TP-91/17. Available online at: [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif][SIZE=-2] http://www.fluoridealert.org/ATSDR-fluoride.pdf [/SIZE][/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Luke, J (1997). The Effect of Fluoride on the Physiology of the Pineal Gland. Ph.D. Thesis. University of Surrey, Guildord, U.K.[/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Luke J (2001). Fluoride deposition in the aged human pineal gland. Caries Res. 35:125-128. [/FONT]
[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]Schlesinger ER et al . (1956). Newburgh-Kingston caries-fluorine study X111. Pediatric findings after ten[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif] years. Journal of the American Dental Association. V 52. [/FONT]
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The Pulse......
You have to be smoke-free for 90 days for it to work correctly.
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There is absolutely no study information on Artemisinin that states you must quit smoking before taking it...:rolleyes:
I'm sure quitting smoking is a good idea generally - but hey - if you have cancer - you already have enough to worry about now....You do not need to stress your body out more by creating a healing crisis in your lungs - that could signal weakness to the cancer and cause it to spread to that vulnerable organ. The CDC states that your risk of cancer increases during the first two years after you quit. I hate it when people try to interject their politically correct BS into a treatment when it has nothing to do with it. How many people read that you must quit smoking before using artemisinin and decided not to try it? :rolleyes:

Smoking has nothing to do with artemisinin's method of action. It is drawn to high iron saturation areas such as cancer tumors and malaria parasites in the body. Once it seeks out and invades these high iron cells it causes an explosion using the sick cells own built up oxidants against it. What you may not want to take before taking artemisinin is high doses of antioxidants like vitamin c - which can circulate the iron in your blood stream.

In this treatment - oxidants like those created with smoking can possibly be an ally in its effectiveness. (But I don't recommend smoking for anything..a cancer patient probably already has a lot of oxidants circulating in their body..);)

Here's an interesting website on it:

http://www.teklinepublishing.com/realcure3.htm

And I have Dr. Lai's University of Washington powerpoint presentation somewhere in this computer....I'll link it when I find it. It's an interesting concept (Artemisinin). I've taken it in 3 forms for the past 6 months and can't say I've noticed too much of a difference on it. I purchased it from the manufacturers associated with Dr's. Lai and Singh. :shr:
 
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Vitamin C and D3 are very important. Eat raw foods, green leafy salads with raw carrots, beets daily. Cut sugar and carb consumption to nothing.

Some say a person can live 4 times longer by avoiding chemo and radiation and just changing the diet. Build the immune system. Do not place additional burdens on it. That's what those fungal infection do - place more burden on the immune system. Oreganol oil is a great fungicide topically and internally (under the tongue).

See the bestselling book: " Beating Cancer with Nutrition" by Patrick Quillin at Amazon. It also talks about fungal infections and cancer. Have a fungus toenail? Treat it with one or two doses of oreganol oil. (North American Herb and Spice makes the best brand.)
 
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NC Susan,

It almost seems that with all of these ridiculous and deadly forms of "preventative" medicine.....someone is trying to kill and mame us!

What on earth were they thinking when they made these decisions for "our" health??

Process of elimination. We must force the elimination of each of these modified, processed and unatural additions to our diets that have been quietly introduced to us over the past 50 years. Take away the trans fats, the high fructose corn syrup, the fluoridated water, the vaccines, the mercury, GM food, hormone beef, dairy and poultry,..etc..

Eliminate them all and see how we do.:shr: Heaven knows we have enough pharmaceutical drugs out there to help us if we...(gasp) were to get sick without all of this crap in our systems. :rolleyes: Preventative medicine and measures have done nothing but driven us deep into the pharmaceutical nighmare over the past 50 years.
 
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NC Susan..

NC Susan said:
Neptune isnt the only thing messing with the pineal gland. Flouride messes with and resets the timing of the pineal gland. (pineal is responsible for day/night release of growth hormones and melatonin and the regulation of energy)

In other words, a toxic flouride could be responsible for the failed immune and the increased ADD that we are seeing in the exhausted and cranky kids, or dimentia and early altzheimers.
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I guess I didn't explain properly...the planets represent the first cause of our thoughts...thoughts that attract events, people, situations. Thus, a person with a birth-chart constant of the disease cancer will attract situations wherein they will be drawn to using toxic substances such as flouride, or situations wherein they will not ingest the nutritional elements to maintain health.

It is not the function of Neptune to mess with the pineal gland and its hormone...Neptune merely represents rulership of that particular gland/hormone. It is the person with an afflicted Neptune who does the messing because we are what we think and when Neptune is not in harmony within our souls our thinking tends to be vague and negatively imaginative...instead of being idealistic in practical expression of that which the imagination can picture.

Moggy
 
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I remember a medical doc had an extended improved cancer patients Rx with this : a fast and sure detox to aid in critical stages of cancer is the coffee enema.

http://www.google.com/search?q=coff...s=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Before we had so many doctors, ERs, and Urgent Care Centers, there Used to be a home remedy for an enema for first sign of any illness, to wash the waste products away, which would avoid the chance of waste poisons leaking from the gut during fevers or dehydration.

My acupuncture doctor insists that daily evacuation is critical for cancer patients. No need to further poison the body with waste.


http://www.newlife.com.my/healthnotes/faq/coffee_enema.asp

What does coffee enema do ?


A coffee enema effectively enhances detoxification of the blood and liver in two ways. Firstly, palmitic acid found in coffee promotes the activity of the enzyme system in the liver and gut, in particular, the production of Glutathione - S - Transferase, an enzyme catalyst in the liver, which effectively detoxifies carcinogens from the bloodstream. Blood passes through the liver every 3 minutes; when the enema coffee is retained for 12 - 15 minutes, the blood is detoxified 4 -5 times as it passes through the liver.

Secondly, caffeine in the coffee acts to dilate bile ducts, which facilitates an increase in bile flow and enhances the ability of the liver to remove toxic waste products and other foreign substances from the bloodstream
 
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I may have posted this already somewhere already but if so just bear with me.....Alz

A friend of mine had breast cancer and opted for breast removal ( pretty radical) and no chemo or radiation......after having done a lot of research. She is doing remarkably well and this was several years ago. Granted she had to go back for .........drainage problems??.......and check ups but all in all it went well and she healed up nicely......got a prosthetic and now all is healed. She has been jet setting around the world to see everything before we no longer can. I admire her courage.

I on the other hand had breast cancer, numerous radiation treatments....way too many and now I have Alz. I sincerely wonder about the correlation.

For information use only.....not advice.
 
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I on the other hand had breast cancer, numerous radiation treatments....way too many and now I have Alz. I sincerely wonder about the correlation.
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Considering that with Alzheimers, like cancer, we aren't just seeing an increase in cases - it's an epidemic that's grown off the charts! I don't know that there is a relationship between alzheimers and radiation because the rates of new cases have increased across the board - including people who have never had radiation. So it may be linked to something else we've been exposed to and how that something manifests in each individuals body.

For example - say alzheimers is linked to fluoridated water. You may have fluoride in your public drinking water and your friend may not - or - you both may have it in your water but your friends metabolism doesn't allow it to affect her. There are just so many dang variables involved with the possibilities.

Perhaps one of your medications taken for cancer is causing alzheimers symptoms. This is common. One doctor may not be aware of a certain medication you've taken and could be misdiagnosing you with alzheimers. It could be treatable or curable.

Do some research into Alzheimers causes - medications, autoimmune disorders, exposure to toxins, etc...you may find something that you personally have been exposed to and may find answers on how to treat it.
 
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Considering that with Alzheimers, like cancer, we aren't just seeing an increase in cases - it's an epidemic that's grown off the charts! I don't know that there is a relationship between alzheimers and radiation because the rates of new cases have increased across the board - including people who have never had radiation. So it may be linked to something else we've been exposed to and how that something manifests in each individuals body.
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Some of the old timers I've met in my past (long gone now and would be way over 100 if they were still alive) told me that Alzheimer's used to be called aluminum disease. Check out many of the every day products you use. Many deodorants have aluminum in them and you spray them close to your face and breath the overspray. Many brands of toothpaste has aluminum in it. Lots of cooking pans are made of aluminum. Food is packaged in aluminum cans. Is it any wonder we are looking at a epidemic of alzheimer's? The old timers seen the introduction of aluminum into their lives and made the connection between the use of it and the loss of memory. That's why they called it aluminum disease. Now that it's be given a scientific name and a few generations have gone by, people no longer make the connection between aluminum and loss of memory.

I'm sure there are other causes of alzheimer's but I wanted to tell about the aluminum so anyone who reads this can be more aware of the connection.
 
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That's why they called it aluminum disease. Now that it's be given a scientific name and a few generations have gone by, people no longer make the connection between aluminum and loss of memory
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That's true for most of our current epidemic ailments. Soon no one will be alive who remembers it wasn't always this way and we weren't always sick and dependant on pills...:shk:

There are many studies linking alzheimers to aluminum.
 
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Post 27. "[FONT=Verdana,Arial]stress your body out more by creating a healing crisis in your lungs - that could signal weakness to the cancer and cause it to spread to that vulnerable organ. The CDC states that your risk of cancer increases during the first two years after you quit."[/FONT]

expose.thanks I always KNEW that quit smoking could kill you. Saw my step dad and the misery he went thru after 62+ years of smoking and being healthy, and then trying to quit for two years, where he stayed stressed, gained weight, chain smoked when he had em, and was miserable without em.

I think TRYING to quit KILLED him. Was fine with em, and never exhibited any tobacco related medical problems till he had a stroke and died. Convinced me that some folks are NOT allergic to tobacco.


Moggy's Post "[FONT=Verdana,Arial] wherein they will be drawn to using toxic substances such as flouride, or situations wherein they will not ingest the nutritional elements to maintain health. "[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]

I DID understand what you mean and i totally agree that there are alot of universal challenges as well as physical, and mental experiences that make each of us unique. I agree with the horoscope, but its also know that one of the signs of celliac disease or wheat gluten intolerance is depression and misery. CURE is seven days with no gluten, and a brighter sunnier disposition should start to appear. Also the cancer docs told me that a sign of cancer is meanness. SO many hormone changes occuring in the brain and peoples dispostions start to do a 180

Dirt Digger, You have chemo-nesia. It comes from chemo and docs will not recognise it as a collateral brain battle damage from chemo drug abuse. YOU can NOT kill every cell in the body without harming brain cells also. Patients continue to complain and doctors continue to ignore, but within four years you should almost return to your normal self.

and thanks elctrickitty, I guess the aluminum disease is recognized as another form of Gulf War Syndrome. I wonder why the Gulf War Syndrome docs could compare the Sarin gas side effects to the aluminum and flouride toxicity of the general population, is it not possible, then that so many of our younger set, the 30 somethings that have just enough energy to handle a carreer or a family or a college education but not two or more because the energy is down. Is that the same kids whose grandparents had to work 18 hours a day sunup to sundown and never missed a days labor?

anybody remember that thread of the washington DC gang of inner city kids with no learning abilities and low IQs that were brought to an organic diet, with fresh not flouridated water with zero television/video/radio interferance, and plenty of sleep and sunshine and outdoor activities and within a few weeks were model polite and kind and thoughtful citizens with increased apptitudes and [/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial]learning abilities[/FONT][FONT=Verdana,Arial].

Stunned the researchers.
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