Rice Insults Putin

linxx

linxx

Inactive
Saturday, 13 October 2007


Rice attacks Kremlin's power grip


US Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice has voiced concern about Russia's direction by saying too much power is concentrated within the Kremlin.

Her comments, made during a visit to Moscow, will be seen as a thinly veiled criticism of President Vladimir Putin.

Earlier she met human rights activists and said she wanted to help them build institutions to protect people from the "arbitrary power of the state".

But she also said she had no wish to interfere in Russia's internal affairs. :rolleyes:




Ms Rice has received a cool reception in Moscow

_44174765_rice_putin_afp_203b.jpg




entire article at link below

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/7043312.stm
 
H

Hermit

Inactive
Jeeeez, what the heck are they up to NOW? Iraq wasn't enough for the administration, they want to piss off Putin also?
 
Chumbucket

Chumbucket

Inactive
I don't think Putin likes women telling him anything, and he prolly don't get around many black women, either.
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Hermit said:
Jeeeez, what the heck are they up to NOW? Iraq wasn't enough for the administration, they want to piss off Putin also?
Click to expand...

Putin's reforming the Soviet, gone from President to prime minister with no term limits, and we should be good little winps and not say something? What're supposed to do, suck it up and take it like a wimp? :mad:

WTF is so hard to understand here? :shr:
 
L

LONEWOLF

Inactive
Why is it our business, again, to act like paper tigers and tell the Russians and Chicoms what they should and shouldn't do internally? And to say it in public on their own turf no less? We are making jackasses of ourselves in our powerlessness to actually *do* anything about Putin's moves, and he and the rest of the World *knows* it. "Beware of foreign entanglements...".
 
Spirit Of Truth

Spirit Of Truth

Inactive
TheSearcher said:
Putin's reforming the Soviet, gone from President to prime minister with no term limits, and we should be good little winps and not say something? What're supposed to do, suck it up and take it like a wimp? :mad:

WTF is so hard to understand here? :shr:
Click to expand...

Ummm....Western stupidity with regard to the actual threat?


Here is Putin's response to Rice: :dvl2: :boohoo: :stfu:

The West is utterly deluded about what Russia is truly up to. Washington sees back-pedaling on democracy while Russia has already become a nuclear-armed neo-fascist garrison state intent on wiping Israel and America off the map.

http://www.timebomb2000.com/vb/showpost.php?p=2544368&postcount=24

How incredibly foolish the West is!

:kaid: :kaid: :kaid:

Linxx....we are approaching the 90th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution

Just wondering if you think this has any significance with regard to Russia's return to monarchy?

Remember the jubilee bit?
 
dcamp2002

dcamp2002

Inactive
Let's not forget China:

Bush throws down gauntlet to China with Dalai Lama meeting

by P. Parameswaran
Wed Oct 10, 2007

WASHINGTON (AFP) - US President George W. Bush will risk angering China by attending a ceremony next week to award a Congress medal to the exiled Tibetan leader, the Dalai Lama, at the bastion of American democracy.

Barely a month after China strongly protested German Chancellor Angela Merkel's meeting with the Dalai Lama, the White House said Wednesday that Bush and his wife will participate in the landmark event for the 72-year-old Buddhist spiritual leader at the Capitol building next Wednesday.

"The president and Mrs Laura Bush will attend the ceremony," national security council spokesman Gordon Johndroe told AFP.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi will present the Congressional Gold Medal, the highest civilian honor the legislature can bestow, to the Dalai Lama.

For the rest of the article:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20071011/ts_afp/ustibetchina_071010220622

David
 
Last edited:
Hiding Bear

Hiding Bear

Inactive
This is kind of off-topic, but we were told that Rice understood the Russian language and Russians before she was appointed to any top government position.

So I ask this seriously - has anyone heard or seen her speak or understand Russian in the context of the current round of meetings? And a more rhetorical question - couldn't she have explained herself better if she understood Russia well?
 
M

momof23goats

Deceased
Remember, Putin, was trained, KGB, old school, and he really thought he was smart yesterday, or was it day before, with his comments about the missiles, and maybe on the moon, he was being a smart a$$ , and laughing, so it looks to me like Rice has bettered him. Putin does not see our missiles of defense in Poland as a good thing.
He isn't going to take anything we do in Europe as a good thing, as far as missile defense. and he is smarting, a great deal over the fact, that he sold or gave Syria , a defense system, that we bested, when Israel hit them , was it last week, no a couple of weeks ago. that fried him out. for sure. He is a mans , man, type of guy, so he is going to smart for a while over those two things, then to send a woman over there, that bested him again, well, it is going to take a while, I am sure.
Rice has several doctorate degrees, and yes, she does speak Russian. I think she said what she wanted to say, in retaliation to putin's remarks the day before .they are just playing tit for tat, the way i see it.
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Hiding Bear said:
This is kind of off-topic, but we were told that Rice understood the Russian language and Russians before she was appointed to any top government position.

So I ask this seriously - has anyone heard or seen her speak or understand Russian in the context of the current round of meetings? And a more rhetorical question - couldn't she have explained herself better if she understood Russia well?
Click to expand...

I don't know that she gave a bad explanation - but it may have been ill received.
 
shakytoad

shakytoad

Inactive
LONEWOLF said:
Why is it our business, again, to act like paper tigers and tell the Russians and Chicoms what they should and shouldn't do internally? And to say it in public on their own turf no less? We are making jackasses of ourselves in our powerlessness to actually *do* anything about Putin's moves, and he and the rest of the World *knows* it. "Beware of foreign entanglements...".
Click to expand...



YEP! We are being led by a bunch of idiots. Meanwhile all goes to crap here in what once was a country.
 
Spirit Of Truth

Spirit Of Truth

Inactive
My God....you are all so terribly off the mark regarding Russia. It really seems quite hopeless.

Nevertheless, you want to understand what Russia is up to? Read the following:


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html (from an anti-semitic organization)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world...--protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion.htm

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257286817&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Hitler was nothing compared to what the world is up against with Putin.

Israel and America are facing nuclear annihilation.
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
TheSearcher said:
Putin's reforming the Soviet, gone from President to prime minister with no term limits, and we should be good little winps and not say something? What're supposed to do, suck it up and take it like a wimp? :mad:

WTF is so hard to understand here? :shr:
Click to expand...

Putin is not PM. He is still President.

I can't wait until Putin is officially proclaimed Tsar ! :)

Let's see.... Georgia and Serbia both may be changing to a monarchy.


Rice is going to be one busy BB ! :whistle:
 
SarahLynn

SarahLynn

Veteran Member
Russia sees Europe and much of Asia as their own private playground, to do with as they please, and the bad ole USA better keep out of THEIR neighbourhood. :boohoo:
 
Shooting Star

Shooting Star

Veteran Member
linxx said:
Putin is not PM. He is still President.

I can't wait until Putin is officially proclaimed Tsar ! :)

Let's see.... Georgia and Serbia both may be changing to a monarchy.


Rice is going to be one busy BB ! :whistle:
Click to expand...

I'm a little confused linxx, are you communist?:shr:
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
Spirit Of Truth said:
Linxx....we are approaching the 90th anniversary of the Bolshevik Revolution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October_Revolution

Just wondering if you think this has any significance with regard to Russia's return to monarchy?

Remember the jubilee bit?
Click to expand...


Well... let's see... just posting off the top of my head here.

God owns Russia... and everything in it... and God's Anointed Tsar is His Steward.

The Biblical Jubliee is every 50 years... which means it is way overdue for the land
and wealth of Russia to return to it's original Owner. :)
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
Shooting Star said:
I'm a little confused linxx, are you communist?:shr:
Click to expand...


Yes, you are confused.

The evil satanic antichrist bolsheviks murdered God's Anointed Tsar,
murdered millions of Orthodox Christians, tore down Orthodox Christian
churches and destroyed HOLY Mother Russia.

Now Orthodox Christian churches have been rebuilt and Holy Mother Russia
is being resurrected... the next spiritual and logical step is the restoration of
God's Anionted Tsar, which I support wholeheartedly !!! :)
 
fairbanksb

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
LONEWOLF said:
Why is it our business, again, to act like paper tigers and tell the Russians and Chicoms what they should and shouldn't do internally? And to say it in public on their own turf no less? We are making jackasses of ourselves in our powerlessness to actually *do* anything about Putin's moves, and he and the rest of the World *knows* it. "Beware of foreign entanglements...".
Click to expand...

Holy carp! I can't believe what I'm reading. It's none of our business. We can't do anything. I guess Reagan shouldn't have said anything about the wall. Putin says don't put missile defense in Europe so I guess we shouldn't. China says don't meet with the Dali Llama so I guess we shouldn't. I guess if they tell us to shut up and color we should just do it, while they plot our annihilation.:shk:
 
Zulu Cowboy

Zulu Cowboy

Keep It Real...
What I want to know is why are we placing our best interceptors over in Poland and the Czech Republic to protect Europe? Why aren't we trying to protect the United States with this $300 Billion dollar system? I'll tell you this...the Russians aren't stupid, their engineers know that this missile system is a direct threat to their nuclear deterrent. Furthermore, the idea that only ten missiles are going to be deployed is laughable! That's the camel getting it's nose under the tent flap, my friends. The Russians realize this, and might very well blacken someone's eye over it...OURS!! We seem to forget how very vulnerable the United States is to a HEMP attack, (High Altititude Electro-Magnetic Pulse)...our technology is both our strong suit, and our Achilles heel. The Russians know this, and could set our nation's economy back 100 years if they get a wild hair up their ass...Why are we pushing this? It's not worth it, in my opinion...If we're so worried about Iranian missiles...here's a bright idea, why don't we deploy this system RIGHT NEXT DOOR...in Iraq? I'll tell you why...because the whole idea of this program's purpose, being to knock down Iranian missiles is a ruse!

Our deployment of these missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic, is every bit as provocative as what Kruschev tried to pull on Kennedy...during the Cuban Missile crisis. How's that for historical perspective? Russia is feeling cornered by American military activity on their doorstep...and cornered animals tend to bite! Remember...Russia has an extensive Civil Defense program, America's is non-existent!

Zulu Cowboy
 
Last edited:
Shooting Star

Shooting Star

Veteran Member
linxx said:
Yes, you are confused.

The evil satanic antichrist bolsheviks murdered God's Anointed Tsar,
murdered millions of Orthodox Christians, tore down Orthodox Christian
churches and destroyed HOLY Mother Russia.

Now Orthodox Christian churches have been rebuilt and Holy Mother Russia
is being resurrected... the next spiritual and logical step is the restoration of
God's Anionted Tsar, which I support wholeheartedly !!! :)
Click to expand...

Thanks, you really set me straight :spns:
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
linxx said:
The evil satanic antichrist bolsheviks murdered God's Anointed Tsar,
murdered millions of Orthodox Christians, tore down Orthodox Christian
churches and destroyed HOLY Mother Russia.

Now Orthodox Christian churches have been rebuilt and Holy Mother Russia
is being resurrected... the next spiritual and logical step is the restoration of
God's Anionted Tsar, which I support wholeheartedly !!! :)
Click to expand...


Now I have a question.

Why does the USA oppose the restoration of Tsarist Holy Mother Russia
which is what Russia was for almost 1000 years before the evil secular
antichrist revolutionaries deposed and murdered God's Tsar ?!

Think about it.
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
TheSearcher said:
You are so freaking weird.
Click to expand...


I am weird to want to have my spiritual homeland restored
to what it was before the demonic antichrist revolutionaries
destroyed it ??


So be it... I'm "weird"... others have called me a "fool"...
but as John Lennon said... " You may say that I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one " :)
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
Zulu Cowboy said:
What I want to know is why are we placing our best interceptors over in Poland and the Czech Republic to protect Europe?
Click to expand...

Let's cut out the bullsh*t and get to brass tacks.

1. It is geographically situated to intercept a trajectory from IRan. That's very true, and a valid reason all by itself. We protect our European allies.

2. OF COURSE it is a deterrent to a launch from an increasingly belligerent Russia! We would be diplomatically stupid to admit that dual use. It also puts Russia in a ridiculous position of protesting the system as an offensive measure, when it is purely defensive.

It is the one bit of our dealings with Russia that is going rather well. They can't protest what really bothers them about the system, so they say some really irrational things on the world stage. We just shrug our shoulders and grin.

(Besides, we ARE emplacing missile defenses domestically, as well.)
 
fairbanksb

fairbanksb

Freedom Isn't Free
Zulu Cowboy said:
What I want to know is why are we placing our best interceptors over in Poland and the Czech Republic to protect Europe? Why aren't we trying to protect the United States with this $300 Billion dollar system? I'll tell you this...the Russians aren't stupid, their engineers know that this missile system is a direct threat to their nuclear deterrent. And the idea that only ten missiles are going to be deployed is laughable! That's the camel getting it's nose under the tent flap, my friends. The Russians realize this, and might very well blacken someone's eye over it...OURS!! We seem to forget how very vulnerable the United States is to a HEMP attack, (High Altititude Electro-Magnetic Pulse)...our technology is both our strong suit, and our Achilles heel. The Russians know this, and could set our nation's economy back 100 years if they get a wild hair up their b*tts...Why are we pushing this? It's not worth it, in my opinion...If we're so worried about Iranian missiles...here's a bright idea, why don't we deploy this system RIGHT NEXT DOOR...in Iraq? I'll tell you why...because the whole idea of this program's purpose, being to knock down Iranian missiles is a ruse!

Our deployment of these missiles in Poland and the Czech Republic, is every bit as provocative as what Kruschev tried to pull on Kennedy...during the Cuban Missile crisis. How's that for historical perspective? Russia is feeling cornered by American military activity on his doorstep...and cornered animals tend to bite!

Zulu Cowboy
Click to expand...

How is an interceptor provocative? They don't want us putting up a missile defense system on our own soil either. Should we just scrap the whole idea?
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
linxx said:
Now I have a question.

Why does the USA oppose the restoration of Tsarist Holy Mother Russia
which is what Russia was for almost 1000 years before the evil secular
antichrist revolutionaries deposed and murdered God's Tsar ?!

Think about it.
Click to expand...

Because despotic monarchies are kinda against the grain of being American. :rolleyes:
 
TheSearcher

TheSearcher

Are you sure about that?
linxx said:
I am weird to want to have my spiritual homeland restored
to what it was before the demonic antichrist revolutionaries
destroyed it ??


So be it... I'm "weird"... others have called me a "fool"...
but as John Lennon said... " You may say that I'm a dreamer,
but I'm not the only one " :)
Click to expand...


You're weird because you THINK that is what is happening, and embracing a dictator is one indicator of impaired social adjustment.
 
cabinboyman

cabinboyman

Inactive
Spirit Of Truth said:
My God....you are all so terribly off the mark regarding Russia. It really seems quite hopeless.

Nevertheless, you want to understand what Russia is up to? Read the following:


http://www.ihr.org/jhr/v14/v14n1p-4_Weber.html (from an anti-semitic organization)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Protocols_of_the_Elders_of_Zion

http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world...--protocols_of_the_learned_elders_of_zion.htm

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1191257286817&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull

Hitler was nothing compared to what the world is up against with Putin.

Israel and America are facing nuclear annihilation.
Click to expand...

Oh I get it, I'm just tired of talking about it. Those who will not be convinced are a waste of effort. Note my sig line...
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
TheSearcher said:
Because despotic monarchies are kinda against the grain of being American.

:rolleyes:
Click to expand...

The fact that Russia was communist for 70 years has nothing to do
the animosity between the USA and Russia... Russia's Tsar was an
Orthodox Christian - He was God's Anointed Autocratic Tsar. He was
Defender of the Russian Orthodox Church and Orthodox Christians
everywhere... and the USA made it it's business to support the
emigration of revolutionaries into Russia [Trotsky came to Russia
via an American passport, thanks to President Wilson] and Wilson
was extremely happy when God's Tsar was deposed and said the
Russian revolutionaries were people the USA could work with.

Well... now the satanic antichrists are being thrown out of Mother Russia,
much to the chagrin of the SECULAR USA.

Holy Mother Russia and God's Tsar will be restored... PRAISE GOD !!! :)



*
 
Last edited:
linxx

linxx

Inactive
TheSearcher said:
You're weird because you THINK that is what is happening,
and embracing a dictator is one indicator of impaired social adjustment.
Click to expand...


You call an Autocratic Tsar a " dictator "

Autocratic Tsars of Russia were called
" God's Anointed " for 1000 years.

Your impairment is the same as the
US govenment's... the inability to
accept the fact that other nations,
cultures and religions think differently
from you.
 
Jim in MO

Jim in MO

Inactive
Linxx, I have a couple of questions for you. Are you a naturalized citizen or were you born and raised in America? Have you ever been to Russia? If so, when was the last time you were there?

Just a couple of questions before I ask the next ones
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
Jim in MO said:
Linxx, I have a couple of questions for you.

Are you a naturalized citizen or were you born and raised in America? Have you ever been to Russia? If so, when was the last time you were there?

Just a couple of questions before I ask the next ones
Click to expand...


It is not wise for anyone to post personal information
on an internet forum.

I will only repeat that which I have posted here before.
I am a native Texan of German and Russian descent.

My personal stats are not relevant to the issue...
so please keep the conversation philosophical.
 
linxx

linxx

Inactive
Rice meets with Russian human rights activists

**

" Before beginning the closed-door portion of the meeting with the human rights activists, Rice told them she understood their goal to be the creation of "institutions that are indigenous to Russia, that are Russian institutions but that are also respectful of what we all know to be universal values."

These values include "the rights of individuals to liberty and freedom, the right to worship as you please and the right to assembly, the right to not have to deal with the arbitrary power of the state," she said. "


http://www.latimes.com/news/nationw...oct14,1,6409042.story?coll=la-headlines-world





Isn't it interesting... these happen to be American "values"
but they are hardly universal... nor are they part of God's Law
given to the ancient Israelites for the administration of their
kingdom.


" the right to worship as you please " ??

No, you will not find this anywhere in God's Law...
quite the opposite... but you will find many of Rice's
"universal values" in Baal worship !


btw... when Romania was trying to join the EU,
they were told first they would have to get rid
of all their anti-homosexual laws... the Orthodox
Patriarch said: " Romania wants to join the EU,
not Sodom and Gomorrah"... but for those who
rule in Sodom and Gomorrah... er... the EU...
homosexuality is a "human right " :shk:
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top