BUYING "USED" - New Growth Industry?

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Why buy used goods?
Buying used goods offers you a way to beat high costs of new goods and to avoid having a large investment in your possessions. As you may have discovered, the stigma that used to be attached to buying used goods in many subcultural groups has diminished in recent years. More people are buying used goods and there are more opportunities to do so than ever before. . . A study identified a number of reasons for having purchased used goods:

To replace items that had worn out through normal wear-and-tear (e.g., a refrigerator).
To be able to buy a product of better quality than they could find among new items.
To replace items that had been given to family members or friends (e.g., buying stainless steel flatware to replace silverware given as an heirloom to a granddaughter).
To meet new needs (e.g., purchasing a used kiln to satisfy a new interest in making pottery).
To replace items that they sold to "lighten their load" before moving (e.g., replacing a sofa with another sofa in the new location).

Where and how to find used goods
Information on where to buy used goods is easy to come by. Radio stations have "trading posts" and "swap shops on the air;" newspapers have expanded their services in helping readers sell and acquire used items; and supermarkets routinely make billboards available for customer use. Perhaps most notable are the weekly shoppers that contain ads for hundreds of used items. Nearly all cities and many towns have regular outlets for serviceable, used goods. Some outlets operate as businesses, and some are services of church, philanthropic or civic-related groups. Some are specialty shops such as those that sell "vintage" clothes and accessories. Proprietors usually charge substantial prices, but they also pay better prices for the merchandise they acquire. A velvet hat that might bring 50 cents at an auction might bring its owner $5 if sold to a proprietor of a "vintage" clothes shop.

Most used items are either sold directly through media ads, at garage sales or at auctions. Individuals with something to sell may try a number of sales strategies. A common pattern is to advertise an item in the local newspaper or on a radio program. If it doesn't sell, the person may put it in a garage sale. Then if the item doesn't sell, it may be taken to a regularly held community auction. The expected sale price or return on the item may go down with each successive time it is offered for sale. Estate and consignment auctions are common in both rural and urban settings. Auctions have become the hunting grounds of collectors of precious and semiprecious objects. Elderly hobbyists are increasing in number, and a wide range of things formerly bought for use are now "collectibles," e.g., thimbles, dishes, bottles, insulators, roll-top desks, even automobiles! Those who buy "for use" may find certain items, particularly at auctions, priced out of range by amateur and sometimes professional collectors. Also, it is advisable to go to a few garage sales and auctions to find out the popularity of certain kinds of goods you might want to buy or sell.

Making used goods work for you
The consumer of any age who chooses judiciously from the array of used goods available in the many outlets can save hundreds, even thousands, of dollars annually. Consider one of the many anecdotes of participants in our recent study of the buying habits of older Missourians. "About five years ago my neighbor bought a new harvest gold side-by-side refrigerator for $900. To hear her tell it, she has had nothing but trouble with it. Yet, to show you how you can save money, about three years ago I bought an identical refrigerator at an auction for $185. My husband and I hauled it home and installed it ourselves. We also paid $15 for an appliance dealer to check it out and clean the motor. Our total cash outlay was about $215. We've used the refrigerator three years without a problem, and we love it. I think that with my used model I've had the better deal."

To buy or not to buy
Experience may be the best teacher when buying used goods. Many people go to auctions or garage sales not just to socialize, but also to hunt for bargains. However, buying many items should be done with considered judgment and skill as a consumer. Some large items that sell as secondhand goods -- major household appliances, furniture, farm machinery, trailers, automobiles and even houses -- involve a lot of money. Such buying is not done without planning and forethought. The solution to the problem "to buy or not to buy" used goods is not a simple yes or no answer. But, given the prospect of a slowed-down economy, rising labor costs and continuing inflation, buying more used goods may be wise if you go about it in an informed and cautious manner. The remainder of this guide deals in the specifics of good consumer practices for buying used goods.

Guidelines for buying used goods
These pointers may help you make wise use of secondhand goods.

Know value
If you don't know what something is worth, you face the risk of paying too much. It is easy to overpay at auctions when shoppers are involved in competitive bidding. To avoid overpaying for secondhand goods, compare prices by having on hand one or more current mail-order catalogs. Know brand names. Know reputations for quality; however, beware of overpaying on the basis of a brand name. If you see that other bidders are getting carried away with a certain name-brand product, you may be wise to forgo this purchase and buy another used item or even a new one.

Control your desire to buy
Avoid purchases that are not likely to fit your needs now or in the future. One of the pitfalls of buying many used items is that one becomes the owner of a lot of seldom or never used possessions. You may think seriously before spending $10 for one product at a retail store, but then pay $25 at a garage sale for a "bargain" that's worth $100 retail but that you will never use. Your bargains in the secondhand marketplace may involve greater investment than some new item that you've been doing without because you couldn't afford it.

Deliberate a day or two on major investments
Get a second opinion if you can. We have all heard about a person who buys a used car and finds that he or she has taken over the previous owner's problems. Getting a mechanic's opinion, even if it costs you, may be a wise precaution. If we all were required to deliberate on decision, the volume of money wasted on secondhand sales would decline sharply. One person's junk might appear to be your treasure, but tomorrow you may have a different viewpoint.

Consider additional costs
No matter how little you pay for an item, this may be only part of your cost. In addition to the cost for transportation, alteration, repair, etc., you have an investment of your time. If the item is unsatisfactory for you, you may have to resell it, perhaps at a loss. Before making any purchase, ask yourself if you are willing to take this risk.

As you shop--
On the basis of sale announcements, decide what would constitute a reasonable price. A good rule of thumb is to pay no more than 50 percent of an item's retail value. At auctions, don't bid over 30 or 40 percent. Go to sale sites early. The selection will be better, and you will have more of an opportunity to examine the merchandise. After you arrive at a sale site and have the chance to look at an item, decide what your bid-range will be. You can then adjust your earlier decision on the basis of the condition of the item. Make notes and carry a pocket calculator to add up purchases. If you are an interested buyer and are willing to expend the energy, you may save money if you make a counter-offer to any asking price. Do not assume that the asking price is a firm price. Be cautious about affirming an auctioneer's first asking price. Wait patiently and you may be able to purchase the item for $5 instead of $25. Remember that all sellers have their needs and personal goals. Without taking undue advantage of a seller in need, you may -- if you are aware of these needs -- save on the purchase of furniture, tools or other goods from a seller who is moving and needs to dispose of his or her property. Assume that the seller has some experience with the item he or she is selling. If the seller has owned and used the item, he or she has knowledge about its condition and value but may not share it with you unless you can ask and probe intelligently. Many sellers have developed a "line" to tell prospective buyers about the item. This is especially true at weekend or other occasional sales promoted in classified ads or in a weekly "shopper." The number of previous owners, the extent of previous repairs, and the age and working condition of the model may be misrepresented (in favor of the seller) in a somewhat innocent and urgent attempt to "move" the item. You must be able to work your way past the seller's "line" to get to the real facts about the product. If you could check with a dealer, for example, you might learn from the model number that the appliance is ten and not five years old, as the buyer may have told you.

Assume that the best buys in used merchandise will come from families or individuals who are selling merchandise they have owned and used. The world of secondhand purchases is a fascinating one. There are risks, as we have pointed out, but of course there are rewards. If you have carefully assessed your needs and have decided to buy something, if you know something about what you are buying and use the same good judgment you have used in buying new items, you will undoubtedly have many successful experiences. Enjoy your shopping.

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frazbo

Veteran Member
We look forward to the yard sales and moving sales on the week ends.
Got another canner with 4 cases of jars for 75.00. Camping gear is cheap! Living in an area where we get snow and a real winter, all of our winter clothes come from "some where else" and at pennies on the dollar.

Can't beat it when you find those "finds of the year"...I used to feel guilty when I'd abscond with someone elses "survival type stuff" but then I figured if they're too stupid to see what's going on and should hang on to it, then I'm keeping my mouth shut and takin' it home with me!
 

Relic

Veteran Member
You never know

what's gonna be put out with a "free" sign- I just picked up a 125.00 coach purse last night- hubby doesn't know, yet--- He said for every new purse I buy, He gets to bring a pack home- but I can argue this one was FREE, honey!:whistle:
 

Green

Paranoid in Los Angeles
I'll second the "buying used" advice. Due to a divorce I'm in the process of furnishing a new to me townhouse. I'm finding really good quality used furniture, sometimes only months old, for pennies on the dollar! Like an Ethan Allen bed that retails for $2800 new for $400 used with no nicks or marks; a $250 kids dresser for $40 at a yard sale (the bought it for a spare bedroom and never used it) and so on. Now I'm looking for a kitchen table with matching chairs . . .
 

m.anderson

Veteran Member
In my neck of the woods,there is a booming market for used retro bicycles and parts,and Craigslist makes it possible.

I just picked up a 1989 Bridgestone MB 3 mountain bike with less than 500 miles
on it for $125.00.The bike went for $750.00 new.
 

RB Martin

Veteran Member
I went to the bank the other day and tried this.

They actually sell USED money for the exact same price as new!

No other industry can get away with this, not even the post office!

They can't even sell used stamps!:whistle:
 

notred

Inactive
Buying used will be a trend until the latest and greatest trend to hit us in a generation or two...buying nothing at all. Now that will be something to write about.
 

Barry Natchitoches

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Buying used is a way to continue to buy quality in face of all of this Chinese made garbage that is becoming the norm....


I'll tell you about my best used purchase...


We were newly married back in the mid-1980s and I was still in graduate school, so we didn't have much money.


But we wanted to purchase meats and frozen goods on sale to save money, and to do that, we needed a good freezer.


So I looked in the newspaper, and there was a listing for a huge freezer (I forget what the square footage is, but it is very large), three years old, selling for $150.


The owner's husband bought it to store venison in, but then he quit hunting, so they wanted to get rid of the freezer.


My wife and I went to see it, and it looked really good. So we bought it.


That was 1987, I think.


That freezer is still working great today. About once a year my wife has to de-ice it (it is NOT frost free).


But except for that, that used freezer is still going strong 20 years after we bought it.
 

kytom

escapee from reality
every sat and sun i go to the local flea markets. the deals are unbelieveable. i bought all the plumbing fittings(plastic pvc) to build a new house for 90.00 dollars.
if youre patient and want to take the time. you can find things for 1/10 of the price as new. baby clothes at thrift stores. a friend of mine makes some side money buying used kids clothing and selling it on ebay. there is still plenty of ways to not be the sheeple! we also have a local salvage grocery store. you have to be careful and read the dates but one can find stuff from whole foods, kroger and all the other high dollar stores. many products dont expire for 1 year or more. alot of times they will have ham that will expire in 20-25 days. they sell it for .99 cents a pound. its packaged from a national brand name. there are many ways to save alot of money!
 

Windi

Newbie
Here in Eastern Oklahoma along Hwy 69 you can see this trend without searching much. Along the (aprox) 20 miles I drive everyday back and forth to work. There are (aprox) 5 to 10 "Antique" Markets. Most of these are Used/Refurbished items or crafts. You can find some really good deals. I say a Dresser set I would have loved to have, it was a 5 drawer dresser and 3 drawer night table from (aprox) 1930's for $150 and they were in great shape.

Personally I wont buy a new car (even if I could) because at least with used most of the bugs are worked out as long as you dont go too old and start getting into the wearing out stuff.

Good Treasure Hunting All (even though I hate to shop at new stores, I love shopping at thrift/antique stores cause you never know what your gonna find).

Windi
 

45nut

Inactive
One of my better "used" buys was at a recent yard sale, collectable's? Maybe but certainly functional and although they needed paint and a cleaning they will serve me well into the future, and I bought them both for a buck.

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Eddie Willers

Membership Revoked
Gotta pay attention, though.

I bought a grill recently. New ones go for about $500. I got this one for $25. I did a superficial inspection and dragged it home.

It's now ready to cook on, but I ended up having to put in $75 worth of stuff. So it's still much cheaper than new, but not the bargain I'd hoped for.

That said, I've caught the used bug, and have many great things for pennies on the dollar.

Two great chairs, $20 / each. Worth over $200 each...1920s art deco dresser and nightstand. Had a few scratches, but otherwise intact. $100. Two free bicycles for my kids...Virtually brand new matching couch, giant dining table + 6 chairs, coffee table, stereo cabinet, desk and office chair: $1,000. Skis with bindings: $25 (been using for 12 years!)...ski boots for kids:free...three office desks: $25 each...server rack: $100 ( retail is $2,500 )...etc. etc. etc.

'Eddie
 

LONEWOLF

Inactive
Yup - craigslist.org is a terrific resource. As a side note and a craigslist junkie (literally!), I've noticed the real bargains have fast disappeared over the last 12-18 months. Seems as though folks are more apt to think seriously about placing items on eBay first rather than plop them on "cl" (craigslist) and be happy with getting rid of it for a fraction of what it's true market value is. Used to find plenty, plenty of good deals or even freebies on craigslist, and I DO NOT any longer. I'm all for finding fix-me-up bargains, repairing & reselling them - I think this is an general appliance/handyman/repairman trade coming back, going into the future....
 

cecilia

Senior Member
Yard sales, flea markets and lately pawn shops have become a great resource for buying used. I think about it much like I do buying a car. Why pay an overinflated price for a brand new car when a slightly used car is much more practical.
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
Some good posts here already, with great tips on "how" and "where." With other threads such as Drowning in Debt, Don't Buy Stuff You Can't Afford, and Credit Card Crunch - it seems we could well evaluate our buying habits and consider the bargains to be had "used." As time goes on, I think many who have never considered resale items before will be competing with the rest of us, who practice living within our means.
 
If you are going to garage or sales in our area you have to be there early and fight off the dealers---some camp out in front of the sale site the night befor if they judge the sale as worthy. Also, these dealers use masking trape and tear strips and write SOLD and their initials and then stick them on their arms--10 or so per arm and then RACE through the house spotting and getting their stuff identified. I've been pretty discusted with their behavior---I hope it is just around here that it is happening, but if not---do the same thing if you really want something cause the guy behind you might just get it. Of course, you really have to know your items and their value. At one sale I went to the guys all raced to the garage (tools are high value here) and almost behead a 2 year old in a garage door.
 

4bears

Inactive
Used?

I pulled a brand name 15" flat panel computer monitor out of the trash last week. It needed a new video cable. I spent about $8.50 on it and that includes shipping.
 

deja

Inactive
I always buy used if I find it first before I find a deal on something. I frequent garage/yard/church/neighborhood and just about all sales of "pre-owned" things. ;)

I have a load of friends who just absolutely (even tho poor at present) would NOT buy something that was pre-owned. In their minds...........it's all "dead people's stuff".........SHEESH!!!.........these people astound me. I know there are probably a load of em here too.

Govt. will try to find some way for this to be taxed under barter or some such in the future........;)
 

Seeker

3 Bombs for Hawkins
;)
I pulled a brand name 15" flat panel computer monitor out of the trash last week. It needed a new video cable. I spent about $8.50 on it and that includes shipping.

Where was this trash bin? Inquiring minds really want to know. ;)
 
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JEM

Inactive
Yup - craigslist.org is a terrific resource. As a side note and a craigslist junkie (literally!), I've noticed the real bargains have fast disappeared over the last 12-18 months. Seems as though folks are more apt to think seriously about placing items on eBay first rather than plop them on "cl" (craigslist) and be happy with getting rid of it for a fraction of what it's true market value is. Used to find plenty, plenty of good deals or even freebies on craigslist, and I DO NOT any longer. I'm all for finding fix-me-up bargains, repairing & reselling them - I think this is an general appliance/handyman/repairman trade coming back, going into the future....

yup.. craigslist is changing. Confirmation from a fellow junkie.

I was just discussing this with a woman who came to pick up a dresser I had listed Saturday. (She is also a RE agent here in vegas... I always ask people what they do and have met many fascinating fellow craigslisters.) Anyway, we ended up, after dresser was loaded into her SUV, chatting in my driveway for a good 20 minutes! We have both noticed: whole households up for sale at VERY high prices, high asking prices for old, dirty, worn items, longer and more frequent re-listings (slower/ more difficult to sell)... you get the drift....it's just "different".

I was going to come on here last night and post a new thread: "DOT! ~ Craigslist!" :lkick:

A couple of weeks ago my children and I were out tooling around "garage-saling" and came upon a garage sale along the side of the road (rural area). My son (6) asked: "Mommy, where is their house?" :shk: I said that I didn't know and we drove on (I was afraid I'd be too curious and ask... getting a sad story... I should have... to report here as another dot).

Resale is great, fun and I learned way back in college out of necessity, continued it when it wasn't necessary as a hobby (both buying and selling)... 'thrill of the hunt'. Now, since my divorce, it's a necessity again but I don't feel cheated or deprived ... it's my hobby! :)
 

CarolynA

Veteran Member
Think of it this way: no matter how much money you have, if you buy used you will get twice as much stuff. :D
 
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