jed turtle
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map of the East Coast after a 100 meter rise in the ocean due to total polar meltdown (global warming worst case scenario):
map of East Coast after 100 meter rise in ocean
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Calrissian
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fascinating map.
As it is, even a 1 or 2 metre rise in sea level would have critical effects on more than a billion people across the world. Most of the worlds capitals would have real problems.
As it is, even a 1 or 2 metre rise in sea level would have critical effects on more than a billion people across the world. Most of the worlds capitals would have real problems.
Haybails
I got my first Timebomb!
map of the East Coast after a 100 meter rise in the ocean due to total polar meltdown (global warming worst case scenario):
WOW! Guess it would suck to be a NASCAR fan! <G>
HB
Yeah and they would still want to rebuild New Orleans.....
Waterworld?
Deep Blue Dragon
Senior Member
It's happened before (in geological terms). Check out the paleogeographic maps at this link, especially the one for the Paleocene Epoch (60 million years ago). The images are copyrighted so I won't post them here, just the URL:
http://www.garyhincks.com/paleo.html
http://www.garyhincks.com/paleo.html
Haybails
I got my first Timebomb!
map of the East Coast after a 100 meter rise in the ocean due to total polar meltdown (global warming worst case scenario):
On a serious note, I am surprised that I don't see any noticable difference in the great lakes.
Is that correct?
HB
momof23goats
Deceased
well, I will be high and dry. alot of people are going to be in serious trouble. but
on the up side, say, the ocean won't be so far away!!!!!!!!!won't have to travel so far to get to the beach!!!!!!!!
on the up side, say, the ocean won't be so far away!!!!!!!!!won't have to travel so far to get to the beach!!!!!!!!
GoldGoldGold
Inactive
Here's a link showing the effects worldwide:
http://vrstudio.buffalo.edu/~depape/warming/World100-8190.jpg
You can enlarge the image by clicking on it.
http://vrstudio.buffalo.edu/~depape/warming/World100-8190.jpg
You can enlarge the image by clicking on it.
Caplock50
I am the Winter Warrior
I do wish you Folks would speak American. Just what the heck is '100 meters'? The only meter I have on this place is on my propane tank. And I don't see how having 100 of them is going to flood the whole eastern coast. They're not that heavy. Heck, I could probably hold all 100 of them in my arms at the same time.
Hmmmm. If this map is supposed to be anywhere near possible, I wonder how the water rose all the way up the hundreds of feet into the mountains surrounding the Birmingham, Alabama vicinity which is in the center of Alabama? Must be "magic" water
As for where I live along the Gulf Coast of Alabama (Mobile)... yep... I'm screwed.
As for where I live along the Gulf Coast of Alabama (Mobile)... yep... I'm screwed.
Haybails
I got my first Timebomb!
I do wish you Folks would speak American. Just what the heck is '100 meters'? The only meter I have on this place is on my propane tank. And I don't see how having 100 of them is going to flood the whole eastern coast. They're not that heavy. Heck, I could probably hold all 100 of them in my arms at the same time.
LOL!! Cap, you're a hoot!!
HB
DustMusher
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The world wide map sure brings a new meaning to Scotland and the British Isles
DM
DM
Caplock50
I am the Winter Warrior
Haybails, so what is '100 meters'? I see no good reason why I should learn meters and such. My system of feet and inches beat their system in two world wars. So why should I have to give up a winning system? Let the losers learn my winning system, ok? So, again, what is '100 meters'?
About 324 feet Caplock.
Bejing would be under. That would be pretty inconvienient for about a billion people.
Troy R
Senior Member
Cap, you will be under water. Better get out your canoe.
i guess we would have sharks and all the other sea critters here.
doctor_fungcool
TB Fanatic
Here's a bit of woo woo to be served with your evening tea,
"June 15, 2007 posting ... after looking at the "facts" ... the gov agencies all moving to the center of the country ... just imagine ... the incredible detail of just moving all the computer and communications equipment ... these types of items do not move or travel well and is an extremely complex job ... just from this fact it tells you that this "move" has been anticipated and planned for a LONG time which tells you that someone has known for a LONG time that something was going to happen ... is it a natural event or are they planning to simulate a "natural event" ... Katrina worked well to move populations so how about the following scenario which i actually have talked about in the past on radio shows ... imagine someone setting nuclear charges off the west coast of the canary islands to create underwater land slides (on already fragile volcanic rift zones) in the eastern pacific and creating a massive man made tsunami that before anyone could awake and move ... would wipe out the population of the entire eastern USA and they could blame it on a natural event ... and also it would do considerable damage to england (thus the queen's visit to the USA to take residence in the tunnel systems) ... has anyone noticed goddard scientists moving to new locations ... this would be another "indicator" ... the key to understanding is the mass movement of US security agencies prior to the alleged "event" ... in a real natural event there would be no such preparations would there ??? kind of like bill clinton contacting donald trump 2 weeks before katrina hit new orleans to get donald's investment ok to rebuild certain parts of downtown new orleans ... i am quite tired tonight so with this thought i will go for some much needed rest ... the past weeks have been very taxing ... talk to you in the morning ... and keep an eye out for the new somewhat revised web page (same content and rules but with a menu driven front page) ... jim mccanney "
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Well, anything's possible!!
"June 15, 2007 posting ... after looking at the "facts" ... the gov agencies all moving to the center of the country ... just imagine ... the incredible detail of just moving all the computer and communications equipment ... these types of items do not move or travel well and is an extremely complex job ... just from this fact it tells you that this "move" has been anticipated and planned for a LONG time which tells you that someone has known for a LONG time that something was going to happen ... is it a natural event or are they planning to simulate a "natural event" ... Katrina worked well to move populations so how about the following scenario which i actually have talked about in the past on radio shows ... imagine someone setting nuclear charges off the west coast of the canary islands to create underwater land slides (on already fragile volcanic rift zones) in the eastern pacific and creating a massive man made tsunami that before anyone could awake and move ... would wipe out the population of the entire eastern USA and they could blame it on a natural event ... and also it would do considerable damage to england (thus the queen's visit to the USA to take residence in the tunnel systems) ... has anyone noticed goddard scientists moving to new locations ... this would be another "indicator" ... the key to understanding is the mass movement of US security agencies prior to the alleged "event" ... in a real natural event there would be no such preparations would there ??? kind of like bill clinton contacting donald trump 2 weeks before katrina hit new orleans to get donald's investment ok to rebuild certain parts of downtown new orleans ... i am quite tired tonight so with this thought i will go for some much needed rest ... the past weeks have been very taxing ... talk to you in the morning ... and keep an eye out for the new somewhat revised web page (same content and rules but with a menu driven front page) ... jim mccanney "
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Well, anything's possible!!
doctor_fungcool
TB Fanatic
CIA Plans to Shift Work to Denver
Domestic Division Would Be Moved
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 6, 2005; Page A21
The CIA has plans to relocate the headquarters of its domestic division, which is responsible for operations and recruitment in the United States, from the CIA's Langley headquarters to Denver, a move designed to promote innovation, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials.
About $20 million has been tentatively budgeted to relocate employees of the CIA's National Resources Division, officials said. A U.S. intelligence official said the planned move, confirmed by three other government officials, was being undertaken "for operational reasons."
About $20 million has been tentatively budgeted to relocate employees in the CIA's National Resources Division from Langley, according to officials. (By Mark Wilson -- Getty Images)
A CIA spokesman declined to comment. Other current and former intelligence officials said the Denver relocation reflects the desire of CIA Director Porter J. Goss to develop new ways to operate under cover, including setting up more front corporations and working closer with established international firms.
Domestic Division Would Be Moved
By Dana Priest
Washington Post Staff Writer
Friday, May 6, 2005; Page A21
The CIA has plans to relocate the headquarters of its domestic division, which is responsible for operations and recruitment in the United States, from the CIA's Langley headquarters to Denver, a move designed to promote innovation, according to U.S. intelligence and law enforcement officials.
About $20 million has been tentatively budgeted to relocate employees of the CIA's National Resources Division, officials said. A U.S. intelligence official said the planned move, confirmed by three other government officials, was being undertaken "for operational reasons."
About $20 million has been tentatively budgeted to relocate employees in the CIA's National Resources Division from Langley, according to officials. (By Mark Wilson -- Getty Images)
A CIA spokesman declined to comment. Other current and former intelligence officials said the Denver relocation reflects the desire of CIA Director Porter J. Goss to develop new ways to operate under cover, including setting up more front corporations and working closer with established international firms.
doctor_fungcool
TB Fanatic
A Wave of Destruction Will
Destroy America's East Coast
By Ian Gurney
The Daily Express - UK
Around this time of the year many Britons look towards the Canary Islands for a sunshine break. What most don't know, however, is that on one of the Canary Islands lies a major global catastrophe in the making, a natural disaster so big that it could flatten the Atlantic coastlines of Britain, Europe, North Africa and the United States of America and cause enormous damage to London and other UK cities. Scattered across the world,s oceans are a handful of rare geological time-bombs which, once unleashed, create an extraordinary phenomenon, a gigantic tidal wave, called a Mega Tsunami. These are able to cross oceans and ravage countries on the other side of the world. The word Tsunami derives from the Japanese for harbour wave. They are normally generated by offshore earthquakes, sub-marine landslides and undersea volcanic activity, and range from barely perceptible waves to walls of water up to 300 feet high.
Recently, scientists have realised that the next Mega Tsunami is likely to begin on one of the Canary Islands, off the coast of North Africa, where a wall of water will one day race across the entire Atlantic Ocean at the speed of a jet airliner to devastate the east coast of the United States, the Caribbean and Brazil.
Dr Simon Day, who works at the Benfield Greig Hazards Research Centre, University College London*, says that one flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean during the volcano's next eruption.
Dr. Day says: "If the volcano collapsed in one block of almost 20 cubic kilometres of rock, weighing 500 billion tonnes - twice the size of the Isle of Wight - it would fall into water almost 4 miles deep and create an undersea wave 2000 feet tall. Within five minutes of the landslide, a dome of water about a mile high would form and then collapse, before the Mega Tsunami fanned out in every direction, travelling at speeds of up to 500 mph. A 330ft wave would strike the western Sahara in less than an hour."
Europe would be protected from the fiercest force by the position of the other Canary Islands, but the tsunami would still bring 33ft waves to Lisbon and La Coruña within three hours.
After six hours it would reach Britain, where waves up to 40 ft high would hit southwest England at 500 miles per hour, travel a mile inland and obliterate almost everything in its path. Even Britain's more sheltered shores, in the North Sea and Irish Sea, will be struck by smaller but still significant swells, causing widespread flooding in major coastal cities.
"We need better models to see what the precise effects on Britain will be." Dr. Day said. However, it is likely that London could suffer sever inundation as the Thames Barrier's ability to cope with such a dramatic rise in water levels exceeds its design specifications.
"The Thames estuary is already subject to major tidal surges," says Dr. Day, "and the Mega Tsunami could raise water levels by as much as 20 feet, with the surge travelling up the river at some 200 miles per hour." Devastation along both banks of the Thames would be huge, with many parts of the City and areas along both the north and south banks of the river as far as Putney Bridge and beyond experiencing severe damage. The effects on the London underground are hard to imagine, but the entire network would become flooded and the consequent loss of life would be immense."
Indeed, parts of London would be uninhabitable for perhaps months and the cost of repairing and rebuilding the damage would be astronomical. Imagine, if you will, what effects such a massive inundation would have on some of our major public buildings near the Thames; The Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Canary Wharf, Buckingham Palace, The Tower of London, and the South Bank are only a few of the many London landmarks that would be severely damaged, as indeed would the entire City of London.
However, the destruction in the United Kingdom will be as nothing compared to the devastation reeked on the eastern seaboard of the United States. Dr. Day claims that the Mega Tsunami will generate a wave that will be inconceivably catastrophic. He says: "It will surge across the Atlantic at 500 miles per hour in less than seven hours, engulfing the whole US east coast with a wave almost two hundred feet high " higher than Nelson,s Column " sweeping away everything in its path up to 20 miles inland. Boston would be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami, the Caribbean and Brazil." Millions would be killed, and as Dr. Day explains: "It's not a question of "if" Cumbre Vieja collapses, it's simply a question of "when".
http://www.rense.com/general56/tsu.htm
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or, maybe our new capital will be Babylon, Iraq..........lots of sun.....AND sand...........
Destroy America's East Coast
By Ian Gurney
The Daily Express - UK
Around this time of the year many Britons look towards the Canary Islands for a sunshine break. What most don't know, however, is that on one of the Canary Islands lies a major global catastrophe in the making, a natural disaster so big that it could flatten the Atlantic coastlines of Britain, Europe, North Africa and the United States of America and cause enormous damage to London and other UK cities. Scattered across the world,s oceans are a handful of rare geological time-bombs which, once unleashed, create an extraordinary phenomenon, a gigantic tidal wave, called a Mega Tsunami. These are able to cross oceans and ravage countries on the other side of the world. The word Tsunami derives from the Japanese for harbour wave. They are normally generated by offshore earthquakes, sub-marine landslides and undersea volcanic activity, and range from barely perceptible waves to walls of water up to 300 feet high.
Recently, scientists have realised that the next Mega Tsunami is likely to begin on one of the Canary Islands, off the coast of North Africa, where a wall of water will one day race across the entire Atlantic Ocean at the speed of a jet airliner to devastate the east coast of the United States, the Caribbean and Brazil.
Dr Simon Day, who works at the Benfield Greig Hazards Research Centre, University College London*, says that one flank of the Cumbre Vieja volcano on the island of La Palma, in the Canaries, is unstable and could plunge into the ocean during the volcano's next eruption.
Dr. Day says: "If the volcano collapsed in one block of almost 20 cubic kilometres of rock, weighing 500 billion tonnes - twice the size of the Isle of Wight - it would fall into water almost 4 miles deep and create an undersea wave 2000 feet tall. Within five minutes of the landslide, a dome of water about a mile high would form and then collapse, before the Mega Tsunami fanned out in every direction, travelling at speeds of up to 500 mph. A 330ft wave would strike the western Sahara in less than an hour."
Europe would be protected from the fiercest force by the position of the other Canary Islands, but the tsunami would still bring 33ft waves to Lisbon and La Coruña within three hours.
After six hours it would reach Britain, where waves up to 40 ft high would hit southwest England at 500 miles per hour, travel a mile inland and obliterate almost everything in its path. Even Britain's more sheltered shores, in the North Sea and Irish Sea, will be struck by smaller but still significant swells, causing widespread flooding in major coastal cities.
"We need better models to see what the precise effects on Britain will be." Dr. Day said. However, it is likely that London could suffer sever inundation as the Thames Barrier's ability to cope with such a dramatic rise in water levels exceeds its design specifications.
"The Thames estuary is already subject to major tidal surges," says Dr. Day, "and the Mega Tsunami could raise water levels by as much as 20 feet, with the surge travelling up the river at some 200 miles per hour." Devastation along both banks of the Thames would be huge, with many parts of the City and areas along both the north and south banks of the river as far as Putney Bridge and beyond experiencing severe damage. The effects on the London underground are hard to imagine, but the entire network would become flooded and the consequent loss of life would be immense."
Indeed, parts of London would be uninhabitable for perhaps months and the cost of repairing and rebuilding the damage would be astronomical. Imagine, if you will, what effects such a massive inundation would have on some of our major public buildings near the Thames; The Houses of Parliament, Westminster Abbey, Canary Wharf, Buckingham Palace, The Tower of London, and the South Bank are only a few of the many London landmarks that would be severely damaged, as indeed would the entire City of London.
However, the destruction in the United Kingdom will be as nothing compared to the devastation reeked on the eastern seaboard of the United States. Dr. Day claims that the Mega Tsunami will generate a wave that will be inconceivably catastrophic. He says: "It will surge across the Atlantic at 500 miles per hour in less than seven hours, engulfing the whole US east coast with a wave almost two hundred feet high " higher than Nelson,s Column " sweeping away everything in its path up to 20 miles inland. Boston would be hit first, followed by New York, then all the way down the coast to Miami, the Caribbean and Brazil." Millions would be killed, and as Dr. Day explains: "It's not a question of "if" Cumbre Vieja collapses, it's simply a question of "when".
http://www.rense.com/general56/tsu.htm
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or, maybe our new capital will be Babylon, Iraq..........lots of sun.....AND sand...........
doctor_fungcool
TB Fanatic
Go here and print out the info..........the article is long and detailed
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~ward/papers/La_Palma_grl.pdf
http://www.es.ucsc.edu/~ward/papers/La_Palma_grl.pdf
doctor_fungcool
TB Fanatic
The highest point in the eastern NC county where we live is 240' ASL (above sea level). Guess if it goes that bad we'll have to head for the in-law's place in Montreat.
Interesting though. Geologists at the university nearby tell me this area was sea bottom long ago, and the oceanfront was up toward Fayetteville a ways. What is now called the Sandhills once was the beach.
Where I grew up, in rural Perry County, AL, I used to find shark's teeth in the creekbed behind the house. Now that's 200 miles give or take from the Gulf. What that means is that EVERYWHERE I HAVE EVER LIVED USED TO BE UNDER WATER.
What a concept that is. And I'm supposed to worry about it happening again? OK, we already had plans to head for Graybeard Mountain if necessary, so color me worried. Better?
dd
Interesting though. Geologists at the university nearby tell me this area was sea bottom long ago, and the oceanfront was up toward Fayetteville a ways. What is now called the Sandhills once was the beach.
Where I grew up, in rural Perry County, AL, I used to find shark's teeth in the creekbed behind the house. Now that's 200 miles give or take from the Gulf. What that means is that EVERYWHERE I HAVE EVER LIVED USED TO BE UNDER WATER.
What a concept that is. And I'm supposed to worry about it happening again? OK, we already had plans to head for Graybeard Mountain if necessary, so color me worried. Better?
dd
energy_wave
Has No Life - Lives on TB
Seven Meter Sea Rise: A Predictable, Worst-Case Scenario...
Full article... http://www.lbline.org/node/62
Full article... http://www.lbline.org/node/62
Eddie Willers
Membership Revoked
Ridiculous fear mongering. In order for there to be a "total polar melt" - water would have to quit freezing at 0C.
Last time I checked, the laws of physics haven't been repealed.
It would take a temperarture rise, in the arctic (& antarctic) of what, about 50C, never stopping for several years?
This kind of "worst case scenario" is simply impossible, and therefore calling it a "worst case scenario" is deceptive.
Get a grip, folks. As I predicted, the "scientists" putting forth these "theories" have to become ever more hyperbolic to even get noticed. If pigs could fly, and Elle MacPherson would be my girlfriend - then perhaps this is possible.
Sheesh.
'Eddie
Last time I checked, the laws of physics haven't been repealed.
It would take a temperarture rise, in the arctic (& antarctic) of what, about 50C, never stopping for several years?
This kind of "worst case scenario" is simply impossible, and therefore calling it a "worst case scenario" is deceptive.
Get a grip, folks. As I predicted, the "scientists" putting forth these "theories" have to become ever more hyperbolic to even get noticed. If pigs could fly, and Elle MacPherson would be my girlfriend - then perhaps this is possible.
Sheesh.
'Eddie