Who's Afraid Of '24'?

Martin

Deceased
Who's Afraid Of '24'?
INVESTOR'S BUSINESS DAILY

Posted 1/19/2007

Knowing The Enemy: The anti-war left hates the Bush administration with such a passion it refuses to recognize how dangerous our enemies in the Muslim world are. Now they hate the TV show "24" because it dares to remind us.

In fact, liberal outlets are calling it right-wing White House propaganda. "Dick Cheney is a big fan," snorts Time magazine, ignoring that the executive producer of "24" is a registered Democrat. It also breathlessly notes that Rush Limbaugh likes the show, so much so he planted "a full-on mouth kiss" on one of its star actresses at a Heritage Foundation forum on terror. That seals it for the left.

It's serious. Keith Olbermann, MSNBC's liberal poster boy, actually suggested that the producers of "24" are conspiring with Cheney to keep the public alarmed so they can keep torturing and spying on Muslims.

He and a recent guest who wrote a book bashing Fox, the network that airs "24," dismissed its apocalyptic new season as far-fetched. As if Muslim terrorists would ever blow up buses or subways or attack cities with radiological weapons.

What really sent them over the edge, however, was last week's episode showing Muslim terrorists incinerating Los Angeles with a suitcase nuke. No Muslims living in America would ever do that, scoff Islamic apologists. A mushroom cloud? Sounds like more Bush-Cheney fear-mongering!

But if anyone's divorced from reality, it's these apologists. Even their own favorite analysts warn that al-Qaida is preparing to carry out nuclear terrorism here. One of them, Michael Scheuer, works for CBS News. The former head of the CIA's Osama bin Laden unit penned a book, "Imperial Hubris," that slams Bush over Iraq. He writes columns for such venues as AntiWar.com.

Yet even Scheuer is sure bin Laden is plotting a nuclear attack against us. The first step, he said, was getting a green light from Saudi clerics to kill up to 10 million Americans with such weapons. Then bin Laden offered the U.S. a truce and even recently invited President Bush to convert to Islam — all in keeping with jihadi military doctrine. And on at least two occasions he has directly warned the American people.

As absurd as such moves may sound to Islamic apologists on the left, they are necessary to satisfy any theological concerns among Muslim clerics, Scheuer explains.

Another terror expert trusted and booked regularly by liberal cable outlets is Ron Suskind. He is the author of "The One Percent Doctrine," which also heaps scorn on Bush. Nonetheless, he reveals in his book that bin Laden and his deputies met with Pakistani nuclear scientists in Kandahar, Afghanistan, in August 2001 to discuss developing nuclear weapons. Bin Laden suggested he already possessed "enriched uranium."

If Michael Moore groupies are still skeptical, they can read al-Qaida documents seized by U.S. forces in Afghanistan. They reveal that the terror group's military committee has a special "Nuclear Weapons Section." CIA operatives even found diagrams of nuclear weapons in an al-Qaida safe house in Afghanistan.

Time thinks Fox should use "24" to "improve America's image in the Muslim world." Instead of, what, depicting reality? The terrorists' religious ideas already have been sheltered enough from criticism. (So much so that the new Democratic chairman of House intelligence doesn't even know whether bin Laden is a Shiite or Sunni Muslim.)

If Fox is shocking or scaring the public, good. That's part of informing the public in wartime about the larger Islamic threat — not just abroad but at home, from sleeper cells hellbent on nuking us and martyring themselves so, yes, they can please Allah and redeem their heavenly virgins.

Too bad Hollywood didn't air shows before 9/11 that depicted Muslim men at flight schools interested only in learning to fly planes and not land them.

Someone has to think outside the box, unrestrained by political correctness. Kudos to Fox for doing what even the supposedly Islamophobic Bush administration doesn't have the nerve to do.

After Pearl Harbor, it was a Democratic administration that plastered cartoonish posters of the enemy — portrayed as evil-looking Japanese with buck teeth — all over the country to remind people with whom we were at war. Have you seen even one U.S. government war poster of Osama bin Laden or Ayman al-Zawahri? (If you don't know who al-Zawahri is, you make our point.)

The threat from Muslim terrorists is real. Even an avowed atheist can see that. Listen to Sam Harris, author of "The End of Faith: Religion, Terror and the Future of Reason":

"Unless liberals realize that there are tens of millions of people in the Muslim world who are far scarier than Dick Cheney, they will be unable to protect civilization from its genuine enemies."

Couldn't have said it better ourselves.

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Martin

Deceased
“24” or 5 to 12
Frank Salvato
Author: Frank Salvato
Source: The Family Security Foundation, Inc
Date: January 19, 2007



Could the doomsday scenario depicted in the new season of “24” be a real possibility? Yes, if the U.S. does not begin taking homeland security seriously, Frank Salvato explains.



“24” or 5 to 12

By Frank Salvato



Two manufactured events took place this week that lend credence to the notion that we live in very dangerous times. The first, the detonation of a “suitcase nuke” nuclear device on American soil by Islamist terrorists, as portrayed on the FOX series “24,” was fiction. The second, the updating of the “Doomsday Clock” to five minutes to midnight, though based in scientific reasoning, is also artificial. But when viewed through the terroristic chaos in which the world is embroiled only the naïve and those in denial can afford the luxury of discounting the probability of an “American Hiroshima” taking place in the near future.



I doubt that my wife and I were the only people who sat speechless as the season premiere of “24” concluded. The cutting edge fictional accounting of the war against Islamist terrorists set on our own soil “went there”; they depicted a nuclear attack in a suburb of Los Angeles. As the vision of a nuclear mushroom cloud emanating from an American city loomed on the television screen my wife captured the moment with “Oh my God, Frank.”



Oh my God indeed.



I started thinking about the casualties. In a city like Los Angeles one would have to assume that the dead would be in the hundreds of thousands almost immediately. Perhaps another couple hundred thousand would die the slow torturous death that radiation poisoning affords in the days that followed. The aftermath of a nuclear detonation in an American city would be carnage.



Then I thought about the chaos that would envelop the country should a terrorist detonate a nuclear device within the United States. It would cripple the country for a good period of time – the World to a lesser extent – as our leaders and emergency personnel decided how to handle the situation. Would our leaders then be able to set aside political opportunism to confront the problem of radical Islamist terrorism in earnest? Would the political power-plays then be abandoned for effective, cohesive government? Would our nation set aside the absurdity that is the notion of fighting a politically correct war to stand as one and set out to kill the bastards that attacked us, that killed hundreds of thousands of us? Judging from where we are five years on from September of 2001, the prospects don’t look too good.



Then again, this was only a television show…a FOX television show. In the minds of many – and especially among those who comprise the Progressive-Left – this was just a fictitious Armageddon, scare tactics delivered to the American people from the mouthpiece of the Bush Administration. Domestically, we have a handle on radical Islamist terrorism and for that matter there is no concrete evidence that Osama bin Laden or Hassan Nasrallah or any of the lunatics who prefer the 7th Century over the 21st have ever possessed nuclear capabilities, even in the most elementary sense. Right? Now, back to American Idol.



I do have to congratulate the mainstream media progressive propaganda complex. They have done an incredible job of creating a generation of people whose attention spans are so limited they can’t even recall the horror they felt on September 11, 2001. The empathy all Americans displayed, but for Ward Churchill, for those who had to leap to their deaths from the upper stories of the World Trade Center has waned. We are back to feasting on the bubblegum for the mind that are the antics of Paris Hilton and Lindsay Lohan and the feud between the ego with the comb-over and the ego with no talent.



The truth be told, there is quite a bit to be concerned about when it comes to the possibility of Islamist terrorists detonating a nuclear device on American soil. To borrow a phrase, “It’s not a question of if…”



Osama bin Laden has been seeking nuclear capability since before the attacks of September 11th. Only a blithering idiot would believe that he has, for some reason, given up his desire to possess them. He believes that the fastest and most effective way to affect an American “surrender” is to duplicate the events that brought Imperial Japan to the decks of the USS Missouri at the end of World War II: nuclear holocaust.



It is common knowledge among those in the law enforcement and counterterrorism communities that
Adnan el Shukrijumah, al Qaeda’s nuclear expert, hand picked by bin Laden himself (alluded to in a character on “24”), has been fomenting his plan for an “American Hiroshima.” The FBI has had el Shukrijumah on their Most Wanted Terrorist List for years. And there is a $5 million reward for information that leads authorities to him. The most recent reports have el Shukrijumah sighted in Mexico, Canada and even in South Florida and California.



In his books The al Qaeda Connection, Osama’s Revenge and The Dunces of Doomsday, Dr. Paul L. Williams outlines the threat posed by a nuclear al Qaeda. He sheds light on the misunderstood reality of what many call suitcase nukes, small portable nuclear devices developed by the Soviets during the Cold War. That several of these devices have gone missing from the Russian arsenal should be disturbing to us all.



Critics assert that the Soviet made suitcase nuke is a high maintenance piece of equipment and, therefore, unlikely to be used by terrorists in an attack on the United States. This assertion is somewhat true. One of the most difficult pieces to obtain for a suitcase nuke is also the most difficult to maintain. This component is the “trigger.” This piece is used to affect the chain reaction that facilitates the nuclear explosion.



One element, polonium, used in conjunction with beryllium to form a functioning trigger, is rare and, incidentally, quite hard to come by. It is a highly radioactive metalloid that has a brief lifespan, a half-life of only 138.38 days. Coincidentally – or perhaps not – polonium was the substance used to poison former KGB spy Alexander Litvinenko. That this rare substance is “out there,” along with the missing suitcase nukes, should send chills down the spines of every American.



I remember the days immediately after September 11th, 2001, how everyone was shaken to the core. I remember how police officers, firefighters and EMTs balanced their emotions between unbridled anger at the deaths of their brothers and sisters murdered at the World Trade Center and the Pentagon and a sense of foreboding as they realized their jobs and their lives had changed forever.



I remember the disturbing feeling that came over me when I passed O’Hare International Airport only to see hundreds of planes on the ground and not one in the skies. I recall news reports of how people were stranded all around the world because the American airspace had been “closed.”



The idea that our elected officials are playing political games with securing our borders and defending our nation against a vicious ideologically foe is infuriating. Securing our borders does not have to be married to immigration reform and with el Shukrijumah itching to turn an American city into a nuclear wasteland it shouldn’t be. Democrats, Progressives, Republicans and Libertarians should be crafting laws that enable us to defend ourselves, not leaking classified information to the press so our enemies are alerted to our tactics before we get the chance to kill them. Our government is failing us in this fight and this time, if we lose, we lose it all.



As I watched the “make believe” nuclear mushroom cloud shooting skyward on my television, calculating those who would be murdered if it were real, I realized that the anguish and frustration I felt on September 11, 2001 would pale in comparison to the torment and anger I would feel at the devastation of a nuclear attack perpetrated on our soil. Sadly, if our government doesn’t come together to fight this threat aggressively, it just may come to pass.



America. It’s five to midnight. Do you know where the terrorists are?


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Maranatha

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Wow, those are two hot articles. Thanks for posting, Martin.



"America. It’s five to midnight. Do you know where the terrorists are?" :siren:

And the answer to that is: yes (they're entering our country through our totally porous borders) and No (we don't know where they are once they're inside our borders). :dstrs:

MARANATHA
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
24 is nothing more than "Jericho Lite". I can't wait to see who can out-doom the other when Jericho returns in a few weeks.

:D
 

Kent

Inactive
Have you noticed that the bad guys on most TV programs are neo-Nazis, capitalists or right-wing militias? Seldom any Islamic type people.
 

fruit loop

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"24" is scary in more ways than one

It's an agency with access to the most miniscule details of people's lives, and the power to do whatever they wish. They spy on people, torture folks...... they have more in common with the KGB than they do real American freedom.

I quit watching two seasons ago because it was making me sick to my stomach. The only thing that makes Jack better than the filth he pursues is the fact that he happens to be on the right side.
 

Rescue-Two

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Fruit, You Have To Take A Side - You Really Do

Sorry, Fruit; this is the real world; not the world of your college ethics class; not the world of NPR; not the world of the New York Times; not the world of Bill Moyers; not the world of CBS; not the world of the Ford Foundation.
This is the real world.
The flesh and blood world.
Where people live or die because of where they choose to take a stand.
So, Fruit, you can't stay out of this fight, because this fight - between the West and Islam - is a fight to the death, "winner takes all".
What side of this fight do you want to be on, Fruit?
Who are you cheering for?
Who are you hoping will win?
You see, Fruit, staying "neutral" or "uninvolved" is not an option in this conflict.
This conflict is eventually going to engulf the whole world before its over.
Not because of the West.
But because of the relentless nature of our Enemy.
You see, Fruit, we can't negotiate with our Enemy.
In order to negotiate with an enemy, certain conditions have to exist:
*you must have something that the other wants from you
sufficient to change a present course of behavior
*you must be held in high enough esteem and respect by your
Enemy that he regards you as an equal
We don't have anything that they want bad enough to make them deviate from their mission of "conversion or death to all infidels", Fruit, and that includes you and that includes me.
So, Fruit, where are you going to stand when they come for you?
Are you going to convert to Islam?
Or are you going to fight for America?
When it comes my time, as old as I am, I'm going to fight for America, Fruit, and I invite you to fight along side me.
Because I would die on my feet than convert on my knees.

Rescue-Two
 

fruit loop

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Some of us in this world still have principles

"24" is just a show.....NOW. The world depicted is too close to reality.

I disagree that we are in a "war with Islam." The people practicing terrorism in the name of Islam are no more representative of their faith as a whole than terrorists like Eric Rudolph and Paul Hill are of Christianity. They're a fringe element of Islam, just like Fred Phelps is a fringe element of Christianity.

I disagree that anyone has the right to go attack another country just because its government doesn't agree with the practice of religion in those countries. Funny....that's what our purported enemy is doing, isn't it?

I also disagree that America is the light of freedom and on a sacred mission to bring The Light to Iraq or anyplace else. Funny....that's what Osama Bin Laden says he's doing, too.

Some tactics, such as torture, are not justified under any circumstances. No civilized nation can engage in such practices and still claim a moral high ground.

Be careful, in your war against monsters, lest you become one yourself.

If I die in a war, so be it. God knows the time and manner of my death and there's little I can say about it anyway. I will still have to stand before Him and answer for crimes, though....and there are some things I will not have on my conscience, whatever the cause.
 

Thomas Paine

Has No Life - Lives on TB
"24" is just a show.....NOW. The world depicted is too close to reality.

I disagree that we are in a "war with Islam." The people practicing terrorism in the name of Islam are no more representative of their faith as a whole than terrorists like Eric Rudolph and Paul Hill are of Christianity. They're a fringe element of Islam, just like Fred Phelps is a fringe element of Christianity.

I disagree that anyone has the right to go attack another country just because its government doesn't agree with the practice of religion in those countries. Funny....that's what our purported enemy is doing, isn't it?

I also disagree that America is the light of freedom and on a sacred mission to bring The Light to Iraq or anyplace else. Funny....that's what Osama Bin Laden says he's doing, too.

Some tactics, such as torture, are not justified under any circumstances. No civilized nation can engage in such practices and still claim a moral high ground.

Be careful, in your war against monsters, lest you become one yourself.

If I die in a war, so be it. God knows the time and manner of my death and there's little I can say about it anyway. I will still have to stand before Him and answer for crimes, though....and there are some things I will not have on my conscience, whatever the cause.

Bullshite!!! Yes there are individual muzzies who do not support the terrs (and they are few and far far between) but most of them are supporting the enemy by omission. They would rather sit on the side lines and not say or do anything that would call attention to them from either side. The religion itself is a farce , promoting expansion by violent conversion or the suppressing of other religions forcing the practicing members to live ,work , and exist in slave like conditions. I believe the term is Dhimmi? This war is a continuation of the crusades, not at our wishes or desire but because that is how the enemy sees the war. That's just the cold hard truth.The religion preaches it's okay to lie, cheat, steal , or kill from or the infidel.(That's you and me FL we are infidels.) Even the ones who act like they are on our side have to be viewed with mistrust and suspicion.
 

pugdog

Membership Revoked
Bullshite!!! Yes there are individual muzzies who do not support the terrs (and they are few and far far between) but most of them are supporting the enemy by omission. They would rather sit on the side lines and not say or do anything that would call attention to them from either side. The religion itself is a farce , promoting expansion by violent conversion or the suppressing of other religions forcing the practicing members to live ,work , and exist in slave like conditions. I believe the term is Dhimmi? This war is a continuation of the crusades, not at our wishes or desire but because that is how the enemy sees the war. That's just the cold hard truth.The religion preaches it's okay to lie, cheat, steal , or kill from or the infidel.(That's you and me FL we are infidels.) Even the ones who act like they are on our side have to be viewed with mistrust and suspicion.

Well said but remember their are a lot of sheeple. I encourage one to read the koran only then will you see it as the evil it is. ALL OF IT. Telling men to beat their wives, kill ect ect....

Many people will counter this by talking about the Old Testament. Remember that the OT was before Christ came and released us.
 

Rescue-Two

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If We Are Not In A War With Islam, Then Why..

Not all Muslims are terrorists, but almost all terrorists are Muslims?

"The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing"

Deacon
 

Tiberius797

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CAIR says this is a backlash against Muslim's

A CAIR(Council for American Islamic Relations) official told O'reilly that '24' is causing more hate crimes against muslims. I have one thing to say to this idiot....911 already did that.
 

JHill

Inactive
The real war is between freedom and fascism.

So far the American people are losing...

dd



+1

A little propaganda helps to lull the people to sheep!


Orwell would be shocked at the blatant fear (state sponsored) that is thrust upon the sheep of Amerika now...
 
I disagree that anyone has the right to go attack another country just because its government doesn't agree with the practice of religion in those countries. Funny....that's what our purported enemy is doing, isn't it?

Well FL, if the practicing religion of the other country entails flying hijacked airliners into our skyscrapers to kill and injure as many U.S. citizens as possible, kidnapping and beheading persons trying to help out in their country and outright verbal threats to destroy our country, well, I totally disagree that we don't have a right to protect ourself from them.

We didn't capture Saddam because of his religion. Nor his sons Uday and Usay. It had much to do with his regime of terror inflicted on his own people, the paper shredders, rapes and other murders. Are you in for that type of treatment, would such actions be okay by you?

No, you probably think we should just mind our own business. And maybe we should have left Hitler well enough alone too?
 
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