Documents disclose 'shadow government'-United States of North America

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Documents disclose 'shadow government'

Indicate U.S. far advanced in constructing
bureaucracy united with Mexico, Canada


Posted: September 26, 2006
1:00 p.m. Eastern


© 2006 WorldNetDaily.com

Government documents released by a Freedom of Information Act request reveal the Bush administration is running a "shadow government" with Mexico and Canada in which the U.S. is crafting a broad range of policy in conjunction with its neighbors to the north and south, asserts WND columnist and author Jerome R. Corsi.

The documents, a total of about 1,000 pages, are among the first to be released to Corsi through his FOIA request to the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America, or SPP, which describes itself as an initiative "to increase security and to enhance prosperity among the three countries through greater cooperation."

"The documents clearly reveal that SPP, working within the U.S. Department of Commerce, is far advanced in putting together a new regional infrastructure, creating a 'shadow' trilateral bureaucracy with Mexico and Canada that is aggressively rewriting a wide range of U.S. administrative law, all without congressional oversight or public disclosure," Corsi said.

Among the initial discoveries, said Corsi, is the existence of an internal Intranet website that never has been revealed to Congress or the public.

"This private internal website," he claims, "undoubtedly contains a wealth of documentation that the FOIA request has so far intentionally excluded."

Corsi told WND the documents reveal hundreds of internal meetings, memoranda of understanding and other referenced agreements that have not been disclosed.

"We have here the beginnings of a whitewash," he said, "in which SPP evidently thinks the public will be hoodwinked by a 'Myths vs. Facts' document posted for public relations purposes on their public website."

Among the documents is an organizational chart accompanied by a listing of trilateral Mexican, Canadian and U.S. administrative officers who report on multiple cabinet level "working groups."

The government watchdog Judicial Watch announced today it has received some of the same documents, including the organizational chart, which can be seen in this pdf file, on page seven.

"There is no specific authorization for this massive administrative-branch integration with Mexico and Canada other than what amounts to a press conference jointly issued by President Bush, Mexico's President Vicente Fox, and Canada's then-Prime Minister Paul Martin on March 23, 2005, at the end of their summit in Waco, Texas," Corsi said.

Corsi added that even the "Myth vs. Facts" blurb on the SPP.gov website admits the SPP is neither a treaty nor a law.

"The Bush administration is trying to create the infrastructure of a new regional North American government in stealth fashion, under the radar and out of public view," Corsi claims. "Where is Congress, asleep at the wheel?"

The SPP organizational chart Corsi obtained shows 13 working groups covering a wide range of public policy issues, including Manufactured Goods; Energy, Food & Agriculture; Rules of Origin' Health; E-Commerce; Transportation; Environment; Financial Services; Business Facilitation; External Threats to North America; Streamlined & Secured Shared Borders; and Prevention/Response within North America.

U.S. administrative-branch officers participating in these working groups are drawn from the U.S. departments of State, Homeland Security, Commerce, Treasury, Agriculture, Transportation, Energy, Health and Human Services, and the office of the U.S. Trade Representative.

The released documents affirm that counterparts from official governmental agencies in Mexico and Canada are combined with the U.S. administrative branch to form new trilateral "working groups" that actively rewrite U.S. administrative law to "harmonize" or "integrate" with administrative law in Mexico and Canada.

"What we have here amounts to an administrative coup d'etat," Corsi told WND. "Where does the Bush administration get the congressional authorization to invite two foreign nations to the table to rewrite U.S. law?"



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Yours Truly

Veteran Member
Article said:
"What we have here amounts to an administrative coup d'etat," Corsi told WND. "Where does the Bush administration get the congressional authorization to invite two foreign nations to the table to rewrite U.S. law?"
"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator."
— President George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Dec. 19, 2000
 

teefleur

Veteran Member
Here's a thought... What if SHTF and we ended up in a conflict with Euro/middle east, wouldn't it benefit all 3 countries in the Northern American continent to have already in place a broad ranging policy to enhance security, among other things?

Instead of seeing shadows in every corner of our own government, I am far more concerned with the possibility of a terrible impending conflict with a people so alien in fervor and intent, that the majority of historically uninformed Judeo/Christians might be caught asleep at the wheel.
 
:fgr: :fgr: :fgr: This is for ALL of the idiots that called us the tin foil hat nuts and black helicopter crowd!

Yes Virginia,there is a Santa Claus!:eek:

Guess the Militias had it right after all.....Oh,that's right.The people in power had them all put away!!!:kk2: :kk2: :kk2: :kk2: :kk2:

Bush,just told you to go ****Yourself America!!!:siren:
 

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JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
:fgr: :fgr: :fgr: This is for ALL of the idiots that called us the tin foil hat nuts and black helicopter crowd!

Yes Virginia,there is a Santa Claus!:eek:

Guess the Militias had it right after all.....Oh,that's right.The people in power had them all put away!!!:kk2: :kk2: :kk2: :kk2: :kk2:

Bush,just told you to go ****Yourself America!!!:siren:

Rusty, believe it or not, I did not hear about this or see it on WND first, they just had the print version.

LOU DOBBS actually gave this story 5 full minutes on CNN tonight.

So yes Virginia, we can now all take our tinfoil off. After this, I can say it was worth getting banned at FR for posting stories about this threat 5 years ago.
 
Here's a thought... What if SHTF and we ended up in a conflict with Euro/middle east, wouldn't it benefit all 3 countries in the Northern American continent to have already in place a broad ranging policy to enhance security, among other things?

Instead of seeing shadows in every corner of our own government, I am far more concerned with the possibility of a terrible impending conflict with a people so alien in fervor and intent, that the majority of historically uninformed Judeo/Christians might be caught asleep at the wheel.

Give me a BREAK....It's by DESIGN Honey.....Wake up and smell your National Sovereignty DISSOLVING!!:whistle: :whistle: :whistle:
 

housemouse

Membership Revoked
Any confirmation of this from other sources? If not, since it is now out on WND, I am sure eager journalists will be on it like ticks on a hound! I will wait to see some confirmation from these before I take it as actual fact.
 

Heliobas Disciple

TB Fanatic
teefleur said:
Here's a thought... What if SHTF and we ended up in a conflict with Euro/middle east, wouldn't it benefit all 3 countries in the Northern American continent to have already in place a broad ranging policy to enhance security, among other things?

Instead of seeing shadows in every corner of our own government, I am far more concerned with the possibility of a terrible impending conflict with a people so alien in fervor and intent, that the majority of historically uninformed Judeo/Christians might be caught asleep at the wheel.


I'm with you Teefleur. This seems to be some sort of strategic alliance in case of war or natural disaster and they're getting it ready ahead of time. There's NO WAY to justify this - unless it is war/impending disaster, and once again, they're choosing secrecy over panicking the sheeple. Just my opinion, and I know most don't agree.

EDITED TO ADD to those who disagree: if it is true that China and Russia are pulling the string of militant Islamics, and that NK, Iran, Cuba and Venezuela (and the 180 or so countries the've just aligned with) are all aligned against us - don't you think it would be prudent if the US, Canada and Mexico stood together to protect North America? I think this is more of a dot than a conspiracy to unravel the U.S.

I'm also not sure how binding this would be without Congressional approval anyway. This is still the United States of America and the constitution does still apply. Is it possible they were working out the details before presenting the package to Congress?

HD
 
Rusty, believe it or not, I did not hear about this or see it on WND first, they just had the print version.

LOU DOBBS actually gave this story 5 full minutes on CNN tonight.

So yes Virginia, we can now all take our tinfoil off. After this, I can say it was worth getting banned at FR for posting stories about this threat 5 years ago.

Great....but people are so frigging brain screwed that they will jump on board just because it;s the American thing to do....

Godd for you John FR is a bunch of ********any way!;)
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Any confirmation of this from other sources? If not, since it is now out on WND, I am sure eager journalists will be on it like ticks on a hound! I will wait to see some confirmation from these before I take it as actual fact.



http://www.spp.gov/


The Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America (SPP) was launched in March of 2005 as a trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity among the United States, Canada and Mexico through greater cooperation and information sharing.

This trilateral initiative is premised on our security and our economic prosperity being mutually reinforcing. The SPP recognizes that our three great nations are bound by a shared belief in freedom, economic opportunity, and strong democratic institutions.

The SPP provides the framework to ensure that North America is the safest and best place to live and do business. It includes ambitious security and prosperity programs to keep our borders closed to terrorism yet open to trade.

The SPP builds upon, but is separate from, our long-standing trade and economic relationships. It energizes other aspects of our cooperative relations, such as the protection of our environment, our food supply, and our public health.

Looking forward, President Bush, Prime Minister Harper and President Fox have identified emergency management; influenza pandemics, including avian influenza; energy security; and safe and secure gateways (border security and facilitation) as key priorities for the SPP. The Leaders also announced the creation of North American Competitiveness Council to fully incorporate the private sector into the SPP process.

don
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
I'm with you Teefleur. This seems to be some sort of strategic alliance in case of war or natural disaster and they're getting it ready ahead of time. There's NO WAY to justify this - unless it is war/impending disaster, and once again, they're choosing secrecy over panicking the sheeple. Just my opinion, and I know most don't agree.

HD

If that were true, then why is GE, WalMart, ConAgra, Exxon, JP MorganChase, and Lockheed represented as a large part of the planning panel along with "unknown" government agencies and officials.

Open your eyes folks. This is the big one. Rusty has been way too correct on this subject for years. I've only brushed along talking about it every now and then.

If we get nuked by the terrs, don't you think that the US Constitution is history the next day?
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
One of their goals from that website is "We affirm our commitment to strengthen regulatory cooperation...and to have our central regulatory agencies complete a trilateral regulatory cooperation framework by 2007"

Another is ..."to improve the health of our indigenous people through targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities, including in health promotion, health education, disease prevention, and research."

and......work towards the identification and adoption of best practices relating to the registration of medicinal products."

Are these things we should be allowing foreigners to decide for Americans?

All this as well as the Super Highway being proposed to be built for the Mexican/Canadian traffic through the heart of America, financed by American taxpayers.

It is a "broad and ambitious program".

That worries me when secret government programs describe themselves as broad and ambitious:(


don
 
HENRY KISSINGER EVIAN-LES-BAINS, FRANCE YEAR 1991 "Today America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."
Remember this little ditty,anyone??????????
 

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Heliobas Disciple

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JohnGaltfla said:
If that were true, then why is GE, WalMart, ConAgra, Exxon, JP MorganChase, and Lockheed represented as a large part of the planning panel along with "unknown" government agencies and officials.

Continuity of essential services so the sheeple don't riot in the streets? (guessing here)


If we get nuked by the terrs, don't you think that the US Constitution is history the next day?

If we get nuked by the terrs, which would you rather have: Sharia law or the Chinese coming in and taking over - or - Mexico and Canada coming to our aid, with our gov't and companies that can keep things going, according to plans worked out in advance?

Either it's a massive conspiracy to destroy the US by the US (I just don't buy that) or it's massive conspiracy to take over the US by outsiders (ie: not our gov't) and the plans by some in our gov to try to stop it or mitigate the damages should it happen. I do agree some group is trying to take over the US. I just don't think it's GW Bush, sorry.

HD
 

Sheridan

Inactive
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

Benjamin Disraeli
 

JohnGaltfla

#NeverTrump
Continuity of essential services so the sheeple don't riot in the streets? (guessing here)




If we get nuked by the terrs, which would you rather have: Sharia law or the Chinese coming in and taking over - or - Mexico and Canada coming to our aid, with our gov't and companies that can keep things going, according to plans worked out in advance?

Either it's a massive conspiracy to destroy the US by the US (I just don't buy that) or it's massive conspiracy to take over the US by outsiders (ie: not our gov't) and the plans by some in our gov to try to stop it or mitigate the damages should it happen. I do agree some group is trying to take over the US. I just don't think it's GW Bush, sorry.

HD

Uh, I never said word one about Bush. IMHO, this was started in 1988 after the stock market crash when it was realized that the level of debt incurred (small by comparison to today) could never be sustained and at some point the United States would go into default.

That would require a new more diverse union with a new currency and new laws to control the sheep.

Believe what you will, but my opinon is pretty danged firm. The attempt to rid this world of "nationalism" to promote socialism is well under way worldwide.

I agree Rusty:
:kk2:
 

VesperSparrow

Goin' where the lonely go
Oh how many boards have I been kicked off of for saying this haas been happening????
And OH how many of our patriot brothers and sisters have been suicided and heart attacked and drowned and airplane crashed because they have said these things have been happening????

And OH SAY CAN YOU SEE a CONTINENT WITH NO BORDERS???
THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT SNUFFED OUT LIKE A CANDLE IN THE WIND....

Freedom has become an illusion of this NWO demon infested world.

Last one to leave, turn out the light ok???

:dstrs: :shk: :dstrs:
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
Oh how many boards have I been kicked off of for saying this haas been happening????
And OH how many of our patriot brothers and sisters have been suicided and heart attacked and drowned and airplane crashed because they have said these things have been happening????

And OH SAY CAN YOU SEE a CONTINENT WITH NO BORDERS???
THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT SNUFFED OUT LIKE A CANDLE IN THE WIND....

Freedom has become an illusion of this NWO demon infested world.

Last one to leave, turn out the light ok???

:dstrs: :shk: :dstrs:


There will be many apologists for the Big Federal Government and the New World Order here any minute to say this is a good thing.:(


don
 
Silent Running.......

Take the children and yourself
And hide out in the cellar
By now the fighting will be close at hand
Dont believe the church and state
And everything they tell you
Believe in me, Im with the high command

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Theres a gun and ammunition
Just inside the doorway
Use it only in emergency
Better you should pray to god
The father and the spirit
Will guide you and protect from up here

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Swear allegiance to the flag
Whatever flag they offer
Never hint at what you really feel
Teach the children quietly
For some day sons and daughters
Will rise up and fight while we stood still

Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?
Can you hear me, can you hear me running?
Can you hear me running, can you hear me calling you?

Can you hear me running (can you hear me calling you? )
(can you hear me) hear me calling you?
(can you hear me running) hear me running babe?
(can you hear me running) hear me running?
Calling you, calling you
 

teefleur

Veteran Member
Fulltimer, you pinpointed some of the more interesting features of the SPP...

"to improve the health of our indigenous people through targeted bilateral and/or trilateral activities, including in health promotion, health education, disease prevention, and research."

and......work towards the identification and adoption of best practices relating to the registration of medicinal products."

Are these things we should be allowing foreigners to decide for Americans?"


I'm thinking of a possible bio attack. I can see the possibilities of collaboration between our northern and southern neighbors. Actually, if you think about it, there could be immediate rewards by opening doors to allow cheaper drugs into the US. (We don't even produce many drugs in this country anyway. It's the drug companies inflating the prices in this country.)

And the Super Highway... Suppose the Panama Canal was made unavailable. A transcontinental route would afford port accessibility from either coast and then north and south without having to depend solely on cargo carriers passing through the canal.
 

Fulltimer

Inactive
My Little Armalite.
I was stopped by a soldier said he "you are a swine"
He beat me with his baton and he kicked me in the groin
I bowed and I scraped, sure my manners were polite
Ah, but all the time I was thinking of my little Armalite!

Chorus

And its up along the bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

A brave RUC man came walking up our street
With 600 British soldiers gathered round his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
But he cried I'm only joking when he heard my Armalite!

Chorus.

And it's down along the Falls Road that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

The army came to visit me ‘twas in the early hours
With saracens and sirens and bloody armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armour-piercing bullets from my little Armalite!

Chorus.

And its up in Crossmaglen that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

Well the bastards came to Belfast said they the battle's won
The generals had told them we have them on the run,
The corporals and privates while on patrol at night
Said "send home for re-enforcement’s it's the bloody Armalite!"

Chorus.

And it's up in old Poleglass that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!
 

et2

TB Fanatic
Either way you look at it, this should all be done in the open. To do otherwise is treason.


You are correct. Is anyone really surprised at this. Bush told everyone over 3 years ago he was implementing this shadow gov. It just got swept under the carpet as everything else he does. Now it is just much ... much closer to happening. All he needs is another "event".
 
My Little Armalite.
I was stopped by a soldier said he "you are a swine"
He beat me with his baton and he kicked me in the groin
I bowed and I scraped, sure my manners were polite
Ah, but all the time I was thinking of my little Armalite!

Chorus

And its up along the bogside that's were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

A brave RUC man came walking up our street
With 600 British soldiers gathered round his feet,
Come out ya cowardly Fenians come on out and fight
But he cried I'm only joking when he heard my Armalite!

Chorus.

And it's down along the Falls Road that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

The army came to visit me ‘twas in the early hours
With saracens and sirens and bloody armoured cars,
They thought they had me cornered but I gave them all a fright
With the armour-piercing bullets from my little Armalite!

Chorus.

And its up in Crossmaglen that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!

Well the bastards came to Belfast said they the battle's won
The generals had told them we have them on the run,
The corporals and privates while on patrol at night
Said "send home for re-enforcement’s it's the bloody Armalite!"

Chorus.

And it's up in old Poleglass that’s were I long to be
Lying in the dark with a Provo company
A comrade on my left and another one on my right
And a clip of ammunition for my little Armalite!
 

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KateCanada

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I posted this news on a Canadian forum. Will link the Canadian reaction to this. Very concerning for all of us!!!

Thanks for the heads up. I think :shk:
 

et2

TB Fanatic
The New York Times and Bush’s "shadow government"
How the media covers up the threat to democratic rights
By Patrick Martin
8 March 2002
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By any standard, the front-page report in the Washington Post March 1 was a political bombshell. The leading newspaper in the US capital reported that the Bush administration had activated plans for a “shadow government,” drawn up under the threat of nuclear war with the Soviet Union, to prepare for a possible nuclear terrorist attack on Washington DC.

Hundreds of US officials were spending time in fortified bunkers in mountainous areas of the East Coast, serving 90-day rotations while they held themselves ready to assume the full powers of the government in the event that Washington was destroyed.

The most significant aspect of this plan was that the secret government-in-waiting consisted entirely of executive branch officials. No officials of the legislative or judicial branches were included, and neither the elected party leaders in Congress nor those in the constitutional line of succession to the presidency were even aware of the program’s existence. Leading congressional Democrats complained of being kept in the dark, and the issue was raised prominently in the weekend television interview programs.

But one notable quarter in the media displayed little interest in the issue. The New York Times, the most influential daily newspaper in America, for decades the principal press representative of liberal public opinion, gave only the most perfunctory attention to the shadow government. Its first news article merely echoed the Post’s account. A small follow-up article dismissed the administration’s action as the activation of a longstanding Cold War contingency plan that had no particular significance.

Those were the sole articles written by the Times reporting staff about an issue that held center stage in Washington for nearly a week. Senate Majority Leader Tom Daschle addressed the subject on several Sunday interview programs, pointing to the extraordinary fact that, for the Bush administration, “continuity of government” did not include the legislature or judiciary. The Times buried his comments in an article devoted to the Democrats’ mild criticism of Bush’s conduct of the global “war on terrorism.”

On Monday, the conflict over government secrecy and the Bush administration’s refusal to subordinate the executive branch to normal constitutional constraints was intensified when Tom Ridge, Bush’s director of homeland security, announced he would refuse to testify before a Senate committee holding hearings on the White House request for $38 billion to fund domestic security programs.

Both Democratic and Republican senators had requested that Ridge testify. Meanwhile, several Republican senators, including John McCain of Arizona and Chuck Hagel of Nebraska, joined Daschle in criticizing the failure of the White House to notify Congress of the “continuity of government” plans.

These controversies were front-page news in USA Today, the Washington Post and many other US newspapers. The Times reported extensively only on Ridge’s refusal to testify, relegating all coverage of the “shadow government” to two paragraphs in that article, noting that House Speaker Dennis Hastert, an Illinois Republican, knew of the contingency plan. The newspaper did not assess the significance of the fact that Republicans were informed of the existence of the secret government, but Democrats were not.

On Tuesday, after four days of public recriminations, the White House called in Daschle and Senate Republican leader Trent Lott to brief them officially on the “continuity of government” plans for the executive branch, assuring them that similar measures might be taken for the other two branches of government. The next day House Minority Leader Richard Gephardt, a Democrat, received a briefing.

The Times did not assign anyone from its large Washington staff to report on these meetings and the statements of the Democrats afterwards, running brief wire service accounts instead.

A series of lies by Bush aides have been exposed in the course of the controversy, but the Times has taken no note of them. The White House claimed that two Senate functionaries, the secretary and sergeant at arms, had been briefed on the contingency plan last September 22, and produced signed receipts acknowledging the briefings. But this was quickly revealed to be a gross distortion. The two officials issued a statement declaring that they had only been given a tour of one of the bunkers, but “were not briefed on a program involving executive branch personnel being assigned on a rotating basis to ensure operation of the executive branch.”

Administration officials claimed that they had briefed Senator Robert Byrd, who is fourth in the line of presidential succession, on the shadow government. An aide to the Democrat disputed this account, saying that Byrd had been offered information on the succession process last June, when he became president pro tempore of the Senate after the Democrats assumed control of the upper house. Byrd was never told about the secret evacuation of selected executive branch officials. “Not once did they say ‘we want to talk about a government-in-waiting,’” the spokesman said.

On Wednesday the White House was still engaged in an attempt to head off public criticism of its secret plans. Press spokesman Ari Fleischer deplored the label “shadow government” and presented the standby operation as a routine bureaucratic precaution that had no political significance.

He even claimed that “continuity of government” was an entirely separate program from “succession measures” aimed at ensuring the transition in the leadership of government agencies in the event of an attack that killed top officials.

Fleischer’s verbal contortions were an attempt to dispel the clear implication of the establishment of such a secret apparatus of executive power: that the Bush administration is preparing dictatorial measures to be unveiled once a suitable pretext, i.e., a real or purported terrorist attack on Washington, is found.

The Times has displayed an astonishing lack of interest in the whole subject, expressed not only in its minimal news coverage, but in the virtual silence of its editorial pages. Commentator Maureen Dowd raised some concerns in her column, but there has been no reference to the “shadow government” in any Times editorial.

This silence is not an aberration, but part of a larger pattern: the collapse of any commitment to the defense of democratic rights in any significant section of the US ruling elite, including the formerly liberal elements whose views are voiced by the Times. This profound shift to the right was expressed in the editorial support and practical assistance which the Times gave to the investigations of the Clinton White House, inspired by the Republican right, which culminated in impeachment.

The low point in this abandonment of democratic principles—at least before September 11—came in the acquiescence by the Times and the rest of the “liberal” media to the hijacking of the 2000 presidential election. As the Supreme Court, by a 5-4 majority, expounded the principle that the American people have no constitutional right to vote for president and ordered a halt to the counting of votes in Florida, the Times preached submission to the Court’s authority and acceptance of Bush’s legitimacy.

Now, even the revelation that this illegitimate government has established a secret, unelected government-in-waiting, behind the backs of the American people and the Congress, fails to elicit a response from the erstwhile guardians of liberalism.

This is not to say there has been no press concern about the mounting threat to democratic rights, but such concern has been limited to isolated columns in smaller regional newspapers.

The Times-Union of Albany, New York, editorialized March 5 that under Bush’s plan “the US government would be handed over to some 100 unelected civilians in the event of a catastrophe.” It called this “an unsettling prospect.”

The News-Journal of Daytona Beach, Florida, took a sharper line, headlining its March 4 editorial, “White House junta is undermining democracy.”

“The danger right now is not terrorism,” the newspaper declared. “The danger is here at home, where zealotry is substituting for policy-making, where the flag is turning into the administration’s fig leaf, and where slander is any opposition’s reward. Without robust dissent democracy might as well pack up and head for the hills. So far, Daschle’s grumbles included, dissent has been non-existent. This is not unity. It’s not patriotism. It’s stupor.”

Such comments in the American media have been few and far between. The prostration of the New York Times is the rule, not the exception. This demonstrates an important political truth: the initiative for a struggle against the Bush administration’s policy of war-without-end abroad and the dismantling of democratic rights at home will come, not from ex-liberal sections of the ruling class, but from an independent political movement of the working people.
 

teefleur

Veteran Member
Question for you Kate... As a Canadian, are you feeling threatened by the idea of collaboration in North america? Just curious...
 

KateCanada

Inactive
Found the transcript from Lou Dobb/CNN:

Officer Rodney Johnson, a 12-year veteran of the Houston police force will be buried tomorrow morning. He leaves behind a wife, three daughters, and two sons.

Representatives from the Mexican government have quickly jumped to the defense of Juan Leonardo Quintaro. He is the suspect in the murder of Officer Johnson. The governor of Mexico says it will do all it can to offer Quintaro legal assistance, representatives from the Mexican consulate, in Houston, attended Quintaro's court hearing.

The Mexican counsel general says, quote, "We have been involved from day one. If the lawyers think there is grounds for appeal, which is almost always the case, then we assist further until the very end."

For the record, the Mexican consulate in Houston is just one of some 46 Mexican consulate facilities across the United States. Mexico has more consulates in the United States than any other foreign country; and to help defend and win key rights for Mexican illegal aliens.

There's new evidence tonight that the United States, Mexico and Canada are trying to move forward with the proposal that critics call the United States of North America. Public interest group, Judicial Watch, today released newly uncovered Commerce Department documents that prove the United States, Mexico and Canada are moving ahead with a, quote, "security and prosperity partnership of North America."

The goal of the partnership is to, quote, "harmonize" relations between all three countries -- or among all three countries, if you prefer. According to these documents, North American political leaders have heard recommendations from business leaders of the so- called North American Competitivist (sic) Council, and among their recommendations, integrating the Mexican and United States power grids, and allowing citizens from all North American countries to move freely across North America, even if they lack documentation. One presumes legal and lawful documentation.

The council says anyone showing up on the border without proper documentation should merely be, quote "educated bout their options and be allowed to pass", end quote.

Among the companies with representatives on this North American Competitivist (sic) Council, Wal-Mart, UPS, FedEx, Chevron, Lockheed and that's just naming a few of them.

By the way, Congress has not passed any initiative or law that would make such a combination or integration, even contemplated, let alone lawful.


Mexican President-elect Felipe Calderon is now slamming U.S. plans to build that 700-mile fence on the U.S./Mexican border. Calderon says the fence proposal, now under debate and with Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist calling for its passage, he says it won't solve the United States illegal immigration crisis.

Calderon said, quote, "We are worried about the actions that the United States is discussing concerning building a boarder wall and tightening restrictions on migrants." I repeat, migrants.

The president-elect isn't the only Mexican government official to meddle in this nation's border fence debate, or its illegal immigration debate. Mexico's current president, Vicente Fox, has called the border fence proposal, quote, "shameful."

That brings us to the subject of our poll tonight. We would really like to know what you think of the government of Mexico and the issue of border security and illegal immigration. The question is simple, is it time to tell the Mexican government, both President Fox and President-elect Calderon to quit trying to interfere in U.S. affairs and instead to focus on improving the quality of life for the citizens of Mexico? Yes or no cast your vote at LouDobbs.com. We'll have the results later in the broadcast. By the way, no one in the Bush administration, certainly not the president himself, has responded in any way to the comments by president-elect Calderon or Vicente Fox.

http://edition.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0609/26/ldt.01.html
 

Double_A

TB Fanatic
Continuity of essential services so the sheeple don't riot in the streets? (guessing here)




If we get nuked by the terrs, which would you rather have: Sharia law or the Chinese coming in and taking over - or - Mexico and Canada coming to our aid, with our gov't and companies that can keep things going, according to plans worked out in advance?

Either it's a massive conspiracy to destroy the US by the US (I just don't buy that) or it's massive conspiracy to take over the US by outsiders (ie: not our gov't) and the plans by some in our gov to try to stop it or mitigate the damages should it happen. I do agree some group is trying to take over the US. I just don't think it's GW Bush, sorry.

HD

Mutual aide pacts are one thing, they are limited in nature, scope and for short term emergencies.

My take is that's NOT what we are talking about here.

My impression is that these are agreements, deals, changes in administrative law without public knowledge, input nor approval. Hidden by obscuring their true intention.

Anything of this type that cannot withstand examination in public by the light of the day in my openion will lead to no good.
 
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