Will YOU Get Chipped when it becomes Law?

Will YOU Get Chipped when it becomes Law?

  • NO - not ever, now way, no how

    Votes: 226 87.3%
  • YES - I do what the law says

    Votes: 4 1.5%
  • Maybe - depending on the circumstances

    Votes: 30 11.6%

  • Total voters
    259

stillprepping

Membership Revoked
its coming closer and closer ..

the day when EVERY man, woman and child - will be forced to receive a biochip, an RFID transponder, which will contain vast amounts of information about them and enabling the tracking of that person wherever, and whenever, they go.

those who tried to warn about this were labeled as paranoid religious fanatics ... but we're now perilously close to that day when a 2,000 year old bible prophecy will come to pass. a day when buying and selling will be all but impossible without 'the chip.'

the manufacturer Verichip has just filed for an IPO for the sale of its stock, which will permit widescale production and distribution of this device.

read it and weep. OR REJOICE .. for His coming also approaches.



VeriChip Corporation Files for Initial Public Offering
Friday December 30, 8:01 am ET


DELRAY BEACH, Fla.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Dec. 30, 2005--VeriChip Corporation, a subsidiary of Applied Digital (Nasdaq: ADSX - News), announced today that it has filed a registration statement for the initial public offering of shares of its common stock. VeriChip intends to reserve for sale a percentage of the shares to be offered in the initial public offering to Applied Digital's shareholders through a directed share program.


The underwriters of the offering will be Merriman Curhan Ford & Co. and Kaufman Bros., L.P. The number of shares to be offered and the price range for the offering have not yet been determined. However, Applied Digital has stated that it plans to retain a majority interest in, and to consolidate the financial results of, VeriChip Corporation.

A copy of the preliminary prospectus relating to the offering may be obtained when available from Merriman Curhan Ford & Co.'s prospectus department at 600 California Street, 9th Floor, San Francisco, California 94108.

A registration statement relating to these securities has been filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission but has not yet become effective. These securities may not be sold nor may offers to buy be accepted prior to the time the registration statement becomes effective. This press release shall not constitute an offer to sell or the solicitation of an offer to buy nor shall there be any sale of these securities in any state in which such offer, solicitation or sale would be unlawful prior to registration or qualification under the securities laws of any such state.

About VeriChip Corporation

VeriChip Corporation, headquartered in Delray Beach, Florida, develops, markets and sells radio frequency identification, or RFID, systems used to identify, locate and protect people and assets. VeriChip sells passive RFID systems for identification purposes and active RFID system for location and identification purposes. VeriChip recently began to market its VeriMed(TM) patient identification system which is used to rapidly and accurately identify people who arrive in an emergency room and are unable to communicate. VeriChip's VeriMed(TM) patient identification system uses the first human-implantable passive RFID microchip, the implantable VeriChip(TM), cleared for medical use in October 2004 by the United States Food and Drug Administration.

About Applied Digital - "The Power of Identification Technology"

Applied Digital develops innovative identification and security products for consumer, commercial, and government sectors worldwide. The Company's unique and often proprietary products provide identification and security systems for people, animals, the food supply, government/military arena, and commercial assets. Included in this diversified product line are RFID applications, end-to-end food safety systems, GPS/Satellite communications, and telecomm and security infrastructure, positioning Applied Digital as the leader in identification technology. Applied Digital is the owner of a majority position in Digital Angel Corporation (AMEXOC - News).

Statements about the Company's future expectations, including future revenues and earnings, and all other statements in this press release other than historical facts are "forward-looking statements" within the meaning of Section 27A of the Securities Act of 1933, Section 21E of the Securities Exchange Act of 1934, and as that term is defined in the Private Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Such forward-looking statements involve risks and uncertainties and are subject to change at any time, and the Company's actual results could differ materially from expected results. The Company undertakes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequently occurring events or circumstances.



Contact:
Investors:
CEOcast, Inc.
Ken Sgro, 212-732-4300
kensgro@ceocast.com
or
Media:
Direct Communications Group
John O. Procter, 202-772-2179
jprocter@dcgpr.com
 

stillprepping

Membership Revoked
Verichip Files $47.8 Million IPO

By TSC Staff
12/30/2005 8:40 AM EST

Verichip, the Applied Digital (ADSX:Nasdaq - commentary - research - Cramer's Take) unit that makes and sells radio-frequency chips for use in humans, filed for an initial public offering Friday.

The subsidiary, which has lost about $7.7 million since being founded four years ago, registered the $45.8 million deal via a Form S-1 with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Merriman Curhan Ford & Co. and Kaufman Bros. were listed as underwriters.

The company's flagship product is a microchip that is implanted under the skin to identify incapacitated patients in emergency rooms. Systems using the chip are installed in 4,000 North American hospitals, Verichip said.

Proceeds from the offering will be used to pay down debt to Applied Digital, with the rest going to general corporate purposes including research and development, capital expenditures and sales and marketing. The company plans to facilitate a subscription to the offering by Applied Digital shareholders.

"We believe that our patient identification solution is compelling for emergency room physicians as well as for patients who have cognitive impairment, chronic diseases or implanted medical devices," the prospectus says. "Using our scanners, an emergency room physician can rapidly obtain the patient's name, primary care physician, emergency contact and other pertinent pre-approved data, such as personal health records. We expect that this rapid and accurate identification process will reduce the risk of a patient being misdiagnosed and the potential liability associated with medical errors."

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/tec...=FREE&cm_ite=NA
 

Theophilus

Theophilus
....but we're now perilously close to that day when a 2,000 year old bible prophecy will come to pass. a day when buying and selling will be all but impossible without 'the chip.'

I don't know that we are "perilously close." It would probably take several incidences beyond what we know today to bring us to the point where this would be mandatory.

Will it happen in the future? Yes.

At the moment there is too much that is unknown that your questions couldn't possibly incorporate and the assumptions [at least for today] are to broad.

As a bit of a side thought... I am actually using an identification chip by writing on this electronic gadget that I am using. Those that know how - can track more of me than I want anybody to know.

But Stillprepping, all of this [and much more] merits watching and discerning.

Happy New Year to you and your family!!
 

dieseltrooper

Inactive
It might be wise to learn all we can about the technology involved. All the better to devise countermeasures/hacks/vandalism methods.
 

bluefire

Senior Member
"It would probably take several incidences beyond what we know today to bring us to the point where this would be mandatory."

Also, it would take several incidences beyond what we know today before any significant percentage of the population would go along with it.
 

Theophilus

Theophilus
You are right, Bluefire.

So, if we could imagine a workable strategy -- the powers that be would probably begin with very elderly and infants.

On the other hand, it might be amazing to think what most people would do if they were hungry enough. Hate to think about it.
 

Caplock50

I am the Winter Warrior
I voted 'no, never'. And it don't matter when it comes, the answer will still be, "no, never". Being disabled and on S.S., I know what it will mean. But, I'd rather be 'dead' in Christ, than 'alive' in Satan. Ya know what I mean?
 

day late

money? whats that?
Death is better than accepting "The Mark". NO WAY, NO HOW, NEVER, KISS MY BACK SIDE AND GO AHEAD AND KILL ME. :mn: :mn: :mn: :mn:
 

drafter

Veteran Member
Well already we're going to be screwed with this livestock licensing program coming up. I've decided that if I can't buy or sell my goats without them having the 'mark' I'll just stop raising goats. Nearly every function of our life is already covered by a 'number'. The 'beast' is alive and well.
 

BUBBAHOTEPT

Veteran Member
Interesting that today as I watched the documentary " The Last Days ", the Hungarian Jews, who went to several camps, said as they watched the Germans and other countries do one horrible thing after another to the their Jews, that they were not worried too much. In fact, they said it happened so slowly - not over night - that they thought it would pass and not happen to them .......:dot5:

In retrospect, it always seems that we ask how could they not see it coming and take action..............................Sounds familiar, as Mr. Twain used to say that history does not repeat itself but it often rhymes........................:kaid:
 

fruit loop

Inactive
Nope won't do it

I doubt there will be a big insistence that everybody go and get chipped right now. There would be too much resistance.

It will initially be offered to parents to chip their children as a safety measure..."We can find them quickly via GPS if they're abducted" A few parents will and eventually it will lead to the quick recovery of a child and her grateful parents will then jump on the bandwagon to make it mandatory for everyone.

That's what happened here in Carolina with chicken pox vax. It was voluntary because it's a minor disease. The medical lobby then found some twitf*** parent who had lost a child to chicken pox who stood in front of the General Assembly and sobbed about how painful this was and how "if it spares just one parent my pain...." BS. So now it's mandatory.

That's all it will take. They likely won't bother with adults. It's too late and there will be too much resistance. It will begin with chipping kids at birth and requiring it to attend school.
 

RiJoRi

Inactive
Phooey! Why couldn't this have happened 30 years ago, when I was young and rarin' to go? Oh, well.

How many here are studying/practicing neolithic technology (living off the land with what's at hand)? Yeah, ya might have ten years' worth of food & TP, be armed to the gills, but when the IRS comes to collect its due, watcha gonna do? Play Waco? That was soon over!

--Rich
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
<snort>

I've put VeriChips in dogs and cats. I've also removed them.

They are real easy to find and real easy to take out...well...if you have a decent pain tolerance and urp level. Kitchen table stuff. Therefore, not very reliable as I.D. IMHO.

Unless the technology changes a whole lot, I don't see them as much of a threat.
 

Chronicles

Membership Revoked
They can put all the lipstick they want on that pig, but I will NEVER take a chip or a mark !

Just not going to happen !
 

RJC

Has No Life - Lives on TB
Stillprepping said:
but we're now perilously close to that day when a 2,000 year old bible prophecy will come to pass. a day when buying and selling will be all but impossible without 'the chip.'
The scriptures do not say anything about “a chip”. To make such a statement is fallaciously misleading even to the point of helping ignorant people make a serious mistake. The scripture says:
Revelation 13:16-17 ***
16 And it puts under compulsion all persons, the small and the great, and the rich and the poor, and the free and the slaves, that they should give these a mark in their right hand or upon their forehead, 17 and that nobody might be able to buy or sell except a person having the mark, the name of the wild beast or the number of its name.
The mark is one of two things. The mark is the “name of the wild beast” (1st 7 headed wild beast) or the mark is the number of that “name”. Obviously the mark is some method of identification. If one has the “name of the wild beast” then he might therefore be an agent of or an employee of the wild beast. If one has the mark in the form of a “number of its name” then this is most likely an allowance to buy or sell or a permission, such as we have a driver’s license number that permits us to drive. If one has the mark he is in compliance, or in allegiance with the 1st wild beast.

If we go back to the first verse cited in the chapter above, Revelation 13:1 we see that upon its heads blasphemous names. The seven heads had blasphemous names. Blasphemy is relevant to God. Merriam-Webster says blasphemy is
Quote:
"1 a : the act of insulting or showing contempt or lack of reverence for God b : the act of claiming the attributes of deity"

Therefore one must not allow the mark so as to not to be blasphemous toward God.

If the mark is in the right hand or the forehead is then figurative for meaning willful alliance? The right hand (Jesus sits at the right hand) symbolizes authorization or assistance at times and the forehead symbolizes willful consent.
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
I voted "No." Frankly, I have my doubts as to whether this will ever become mandatory. There are very few reasons (compelling or otherwise) for the government to promote or require it, and even fewer for the population at large to go along with it. Besides...the government can't adequately manage what little data it has on its citizens now (74 year old veterans being recalled to active military duty, 24 year old voters being turned away from the polls because they are supposedly deceased, etc.)

Obviously, if the government can't keep track of 15 million illegal aliens wandering about the U.S., they have absolutely no hope whatsoever of making this other deal work with 300 million people. So, we can relax. :lkick:

I suppose that there are lots of things in this world to worry about, if one insists on worrying about something.

This ain't one of them. :lol:
 
It's called the Slow Burn.

If you are already wrapped up in the Beast System more than likely you will take the Mark and belive you are serving God and Country while doing it!

Why exactly do you think we have been so adament in our fight against the Police State mentality?? When the time comes,people will line up willingly to stop the onslaught of terrorism.

I can see it now.There is a major hit on America.The Sheeple will beg for peace and safety.They will beg for whatever it is.Chip,National I.D.Ink tatoo....who knows.

But this I do know that those who do not love to truth will take the Mark with entusiasm.Especially if the person or persons asking them to do so are so-called born again Christains! Repulicrat or Demoncrat no difference.......

The Remnant know that time is upon us....wake up to the fact that there is conspiracy,and Satan is playing the whole world for the fool!

Will I take it??? :lkick: :lkick: :lkick: :lkick: :lkick: :lkick:

Make me...........
 

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Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
Yup, Rusty do agree! It will probably be a surprise that when it comes down, how
many of them that we know and love will euthastically take this chip! As for myself,
NO WAY and NO HOW ... NEVER! Plan to go and disappear into the Deep Wilds
and live. Creator Bless!
 

Hamilton Felix

Inactive
By the time they are forcing people to take RFID chips, the methods of deactivating and removing them will be common knowledge. If it's small and electronic, it can be fried.

As far as I'm concerned, an ID chip is something I put in a valued dog, not something for a free man. If you have trouble telling which is the dog and which is the free man, the latter is the one with the gun.
 
Hamilton...I don't have a websource.But I have heard of a Bio-chip that is Organic.And becomes part of your living tissue.Powered by your bodily chemicals!
This is possible.remember the organic bio-computer a while back??

Hard to take that puppy out.......This is just info they want us to know,I dare say the technology is some years more advanced than they are letting on.........
 

Warthog

Tusk Up
Hamilton Felix said:
By the time they are forcing people to take RFID chips, the methods of deactivating and removing them will be common knowledge. If it's small and electronic, it can be fried.

As far as I'm concerned, an ID chip is something I put in a valued dog, not something for a free man. If you have trouble telling which is the dog and which is the free man, the latter is the one with the gun.
they're doing the dogs and cats now to get us use to the idea, then it will be sex offenders, then all prisoners, then children so they don't get lost, then everyone.
 

Lone Eagle Woman

Veteran Member
And as for the Bio-Chip! Yes I have heard of this too. What I have heard is
that it is very hard to take that puppy out. And I suspect that this will be out
and mandatory to get, lots sooner then lots of us even imagine! Creator Bless!
 

stillprepping

Membership Revoked
walk,
"They are real easy to find and real easy to take out"

take a look at the pic below. THEN tell me how real easy you think the average person could find one.

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The Mu-chip is the world’s smallest RFID integrated circuit it provides the ability to track, trace and monitor items cost effectively, enhances security, protects brand image and can offer high visibility throughout supply or value chain or lifecycle of the tagged item.​




cannon,
"What is the point of these polls? Do you all not have better things to do?"

ROFLMAO .. dont you have anything better to do than read pointless polls like this?

:lkick::lkick::lkick:
 

Chartreuse

Yellow Solar Sun
If the only issue is them passing a law saying we have to all get chipped, then no. Absolutely not.

However, the sad fact of the matter is that in the end a law will be unnecessary to make chipping nearly universal, especially once the chips can carry more information. Here's how it works: The chip will be marketed as this wonderful thing that provides convenience and security. Those two words right there are enough to make some people go ahead.

The program will be picked up by banks, who try to get people to give up their debit cards in favor of the chip (agains, citing convenience and security). Credit card companies will offer "free" chipping to anyone who opens an account and will forego an actual card in favor of just having the chip.

Restaurants, hotels and grocery stores will start adding machines that read the chips, so that all you have to do is pass your hand (or wherever the chip goes) over the scanner and the money is automatically deducted from your account (some stores already do a version of this - using thumbprints).

And then we see this "voluntary" chip become not so voluntary:

Large employers and employers in "sensitive" industries will start requiring the chip as a condition of employment, for security purposes.

The bank will start requiring a chip in order to open an account (or cash a check).

The DMV will start requiring a chip in order to get a driver's license.

Landlords will have small hand-held scanners so that they can instantly identify prospective tenants (and perhaps access their criminal backgrounds and rental and credit histories).

All of this can happen without any law being passed. If you can't open a checking account or rent an apartment or get a driver's license without a chip, then it is already mandatory, no matter what the law says.
 
(The bank will start requiring a chip in order to open an account (or cash a check).

The DMV will start requiring a chip in order to get a driver's license.)


The New National I.D. due out in just under 2 years will require that very thing!
 

Fuzzychick

Membership Revoked
I said it once when this subject came up and I'll say it again, they can chip my ass when I'm cold and dead.:dvl1:
 

stillprepping

Membership Revoked
the following is from one of the designers of the biochip. i'm tempted to post more here, but the purpose of this thread is a POLL to see how many people would be willing to even CONSIDER getting brande .. err .. implanted with it, and i dont want to dilute this thread. perhaps i'll start another poll-less thread dealing with just the subject matter alone. but it is something that 8% answered Maybe to the poll.

this engineer has more electronics degrees and certificates (all posted on his site) than you can count. whats fascinating is this guy has since been saved and is now working for GOD'S Kingdom and not the Beast's. (funny how the Lord works, isnt it?) anyway, his site is loaded with terrific information.


There is a biochip now in the hands of the government that has the potential of becoming the "mark of the beast" where you can not "buy or sell" without it. Carl Sanders, was a top electronics engineer and inventor for the U.S. government, who worked with the FBI, CIA, IRS and other government agencies designing spy technologies and surveillance equipment. He holds several patents and has been presented with the President's and Governor's Awards for Merit and Design Excellence.

Carl Sanders sat in 17 New World Order meetings with heads of state officials such as Henry Kissinger and Bob Gates of the CIA to discuss plans on how to bring about this One World System. The government commissioned Carl Sanders to design a biochip for identifying and controlling the peoples of the world— a biochip that could be inserted under the skin with a hypodermic needle (a quick/convenient method that would be gradually accepted by society).

Carl Sanders, with a team of engineers behind him, with U.S. grant monies supplied by our tax dollars, took on this project and designed a biochip which is powered by a lithium battery rechargeable through the temperature changes in our skin. Without the knowledge of the Bible (Bro. Sanders was not a Christian at the time), these engineers spent one and half million dollars doing research on the best and most convenient place to have the biochip inserted. Guess what? These researchers found that the forehead and the back of the hand is not just the most convenient place but is also the only viable place for rapid, consistent temperature changes in the skin to recharge the lithium battery. The biochip is approximately 7mm in length, .75 mm in diameter, about the size of a grain of rice. It is capable of storing pages upon pages of information about you. All your general history, work history, crime record, health history and financial data can be stored on this chip.

http://www.trumpetmin.org/mark of beast.htm
 

Jesse

Membership Revoked
They do it by getting people to compromise...

Afternoon!

I voted, "No," because while I don't think it's as imminent as some, I do believe it's inevitable.

Neither do I believe it's THE "Mark" of Revelation 13. My understanding of that is that one is either "Sealed" by God, or in the absence of having that Seal, by default one is "marked" by the devil. I believe this to be spiritual in it's application.

However, with privacy and freedom becoming more and more restricted, I see numerous attempts, even now, to "force" us into the Beast System, or lose whatever privilege one is compromising oneself for. e.g. In many places one cannot obtain health care without a "chip" these days. That has fairly serious implications for those of us who are disabled. I *still* will not take a chip and agree with CAP on this point.

Immigrants into just about any Western country must swear allegiance to the government and promise to go to war if necessary. There are only approx. 500,000 of us in Canada now who haven't done this, although I don't know other people's reasons for declining to "take the oath." I have listed Canada as my "home base" for 32 years, despite having traveled widely during that time. I won't become a citizen though because I won't *swear* allegiance to *any* earthly government, nor will I participate in any war. Period. Who knows what this will mean for me and others like me not too far down the road... - Jesse.
 

WalknTrot

Veteran Member
stillprepping said:
walk,
"They are real easy to find and real easy to take out"

take a look at the pic below. THEN tell me how real easy you think the average person could find one.


But we were (I thought) talking about the VeriChip, which is the only one I know of currently approved and being used in critters (including humans). Everybody and his brother has a reader for 'em including veterinarians, breeders, municipal pounds, research facilities and humane societies.

If you can read it, you just found it. They do tend to migrate a little over time, but not a big problem with a reader. The chip goes in just under the skin with a large bore needle.​
 
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