4 Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?

Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?
Reporter suggests Brynes discovered plan to turn nuke exercise into staged terror attack

Paul Joseph Watson & Alex Jones | August 10 2005

The head of Fort Monroe's Training and Doctrine Command, four star general Kevin P. Byrnes, was fired Tuesday apparently for sexual misconduct according to official sources.

Other sources however have offered a different explanation for Byrnes' dismissal which ties in with the Bush administration's unpopular plan to attack Iran and the staged nuclear attack in the US which would provide the pretext to do so.

According to reporter Greg Szymanski, anonymous military sources said that Brynes was the leader of a faction that was preparing to instigate a coup against the neo-con hawks in an attempt to prevent further global conflict.

Indications are that, much like popular opinion amongst the general public, half the military oppose the neo-con's agenda and half support it.

Further revelations were imparted by journalist Leland Lehrman who appeared today on The Alex Jones Show.

Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

This website has relentlessly discussed similar style drills which took place on the morning of 9/11 and on the morning of 7/7 in London.

"Speculation exists that he had potentially discovered the fact that it was gonna go live and that he was trying to put a stop to it or also speculation indicates that he may be part of a military coup designed to prevent the ridiculous idea of doing a nuclear war with Iran, " said Lehrman.

Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame.

Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.

Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved.

Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent.

Now would be the most opportune time for the Globalists to stage a major attack, as it would head off any potential indictments against the Bush administration for their involvement in illegally outing CIA agent Valerie Plame.

While rumors circulating about indictments having already taken place against Bush and Cheney should rightly be treated very carefully, the fact that there is an ongoing criminal investigation into the matter is something that's admitted and shouldn't be viewed as speculation.

http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/august2005/100805fourstargeneral.htm

It has been discussed...

The US military is for the first time making its own plans for dealing with domestic terrorist attacks.

Under the plans, quick-reaction forces will be prepared to deal with 15 potential scenarios, including simultaneous bomb attacks.

The civilian authorities would usually expect to plan for and provide the vast majority of the resources and personnel for major domestic emergencies.

Now military resources such as sniffer dogs will be easier to deploy.

The Department of Defense has not traditionally taken a major role in domestic operations.

The Posse Comitatus Act of 1878 prevents the military from taking part in any law enforcement, an important part of traditional "states' rights".

The department has stressed that the new plans are just a way of providing specialist help for the civilian authorities where units are closer to the scene of an attack or other emergency.

The Department for Homeland Security takes the lead in dealing on a national basis with terrorist attacks.

Planning process

A Department of Defense spokesman said: "It is vital to the defence of our nation that we plan for contingencies and actions necessary to deter, prevent and defeat current and emerging threats at home and abroad.

"This planning process is an extremely complex process encompassing numerous organisations including combatant commands, the Joint Staff, the Office of the Secretary of Defense and sometimes outside agencies before the plan is presented to the Secretary of Defense for approval.

"Traditionally, DoD resources and capabilities are provided only when local, state, and federal resources and capabilities have been exceeded or do not exist."

These resources might typically be sniffer dogs specialising in detecting explosives or search and rescue teams to find bodies in rubble.

Admiral Timothy Keating, head of the Northern Command, was quoted in the Washington Post as saying: "In my estimation, [in the event of] a biological, a chemical or nuclear attack in any of the 50 states, the Department of Defense is best positioned - of the various eight federal agencies that would be involved - to take the lead."

Comment: We have been saying for many, many months that it would only be a matter of time before the American people themselves would become the object of this phony war on terror. Did you really think that we were joking? That it would NOT happen? Think again, and this time, think seriously about it, before it is too late.

http://signs-of-the-times.org/signs/signs20050810.htm

Overthrow Of The
American Republic - Part 78
Bush Orders US Troops
From Germany To Romania
By Sherman H. Skolnick
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8-11-5


The occupant and resident of the White House, George W. Bush, has ordered the bulk of the U.S. Troops in Germany, to be quietly sent over the next 18 months to Romania. Why and How?

Some background.

In World War 2, the German forces were hoping to conquer Cairo and go East from that, to take over the oil fields of Iran, to support the Nazi war machine. The first Shah of Iran, Peacock Throne Pahlavi (1925), Persian dictator, pro-Hitler, would have made a useful German ally. It was not to be despite the efforts of "The Desert Fox", General Rommel, much later assassinated by the Gestapo in an aborted effort by Rommel and others to assassinate Adolf Hitler and overthrow the Nazi government, to spare the German common people further bloodshed because they followed and believed a madman and a demagogue.

As an alternative, Germany was using the Ploesti oil fields of Romania. U.S. bombers, in a far from successful raid, targeted Ploesti. Many U.S. airmen died in the tragic effort.

Thr post-war dictators of Romania, in a violent coup, were supposedly overthrown and replaced by the dictators' surrogates, the current pliable group.

In the post-war period, too many Americans, and others, came to believe that Romania's oilfields were depleted. Knowledgeable sources, however, contend that Romania has sufficient oil reserves currently for another ten years. Moreover, large deposits of natural gas have been discovered offshore of Romania, in the Black Sea.

Also, too many Americans, and others, have forgotten that Germany, now consolidated as one nation, East and West, is still a foreign-military-occupied country. More than sixty years after the Second War, large numbers of U.S. armed forces are stationed and garrisoned in Germany.

Commander-in-Chief Bush has arbitrarily and unfairly imposed on the occupied German government that Germany supposedly "agree" and "co-operate" to the removal of upwards of seventy five thousand U.S. troops over the next 18 to be sent to Romania. As an alternative to the failed U.S. invasion of oil-rich Iraq, done without a U.S. Constitution-mandated Declaration of War by Congress, Bush seeks to control the oil and natural gas riches of Romania. And Bush schemes to have a dagger against Russian power in the Mid-East, Central Asia, and nearby lands.

A well-kept secret is that Bush ordered to be built in Romania the largest U.S. military base outside the U.S. mainland.

So far, Moscow boss V. Putin has appeared to be tolerant and patient as the U.S. surrounds Russia, on all sides, with U.S. war bases. The Russian people are not enemies of the American people and vice versa as well. Like in the U.S. there is. however, an element in the Russian military that is blood-thirsty. They strongly insist that Putin safeguard "Mother Russia" and reverse, with war if needed, the U.S. military base encirclement of Russia.

While this is happening, the new royal dictator of Saudi Arabia appears not to trust large portions of Saudi investments in the U.S. As a start, Saudi has ordered the withdrawal of over 350 Billion dollars of their funds sent to the U.S. just in the past 18 months. Some assert that the Bush administration, to assure continuing oil from Saudi, by the U.S. military dividing up Saudi, with the U.S. military occupying with an iron fist the Eastern portion from which the oil comes.

By setting up the huge U.S. Military base in Romania, Bush intends to make use of the oil and natural gas from Romania at the same time being in a position to deter, or threaten, Putin if Russia interferes with Bush's mad plan to either bomb and/or invade Iran, adjacent to Russia and a Russian client State.

On the other hand, Putin reminds Bush that Russia, through one pipeline, supplies most of the natural gas energy to Central and Western Europe. If Europe goes along with Bush's secret Romania insanity, many parts of Europe will freeze in the winter.

All this is occurring against a backdrop of efforts by a group of U.S. Admirals and Generals, called in miliary jargon flag officers, to invoke provisions of the Uniform Military Code, authorizing them to arrest their Commander-in-Chief Bush for treason, committed against the U.S. Constitution and Bill of Rights and the American common people.

If Bush has them arrested for mutiny, and if they are not assassinated, they intend to prove at Courts Martial, that Bush is a fictitious President; that he caused by bribery a Five-Judge majority of the U.S. Supreme Court to corruptly and arbitrarily install Bush as the occupant and resident of the Oval Office in 2000 and a further fake presidency by massive election computer fraud in 2004; that George W. Bush as supervised by Daddy Bush, with the full assistance and treachery of their joint mistress Condoleeza Rice, had full prior knowledge of 9-11 and caused the murder of three thousand fellow Americans; that George W. Bush started an unconstitutional war by fraud and deceit amounting to treason, invading Iraq; that George W, Bush caused the death and serious wounding in mind and body of many thousands of American men and women sent to Iraq as an invading force, serving no legitimate American purpose other than aiding and abetting the conspiratorial Oil Cartel including Richard Cheney and the Bush Crime Family.

That flag officers, to support their position, have undisputed documentary proof ot the crimes of George W. Bush and Daddy Bush.

Actually, President John F. Kennedy was publicly executed in an open car in Dallas, by the Anglo-American Aristocracy, constituting a coup. That every President after JFK covered up this overthrow of the Presidency.

So that those brave and patriotic flag officers in the process now of arresting treasonous Bush, are, for the good of fellow Americans, conducting a counter-coup.

To try to stop this counter-coup, Bush has ordered one of the flag officers, a General, to be arrested. The unfortunate reality now becoming evident to those knowing about this, is that the friction between the North and the South, continues from the end of the War Between The States in 1865 to now.

Some Northern flag officers vow to make the counter-coup successful. On the other hand, Southern flag officers have taken up arms against the Northern flag officers. There has been unreported bloodshed among the highest level of the U.S. Military,

More coming. Stay tuned.

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Lehrman's army sources, including a former Captain in intelligence, became outraged when they learned that the official story behind 9/11 was impossible.

(Of course it was. Cell phones did not work from planes at that level. People facing imminent death do not call home to their mother and need to USE THEIR LAST NAME)

They told Lehrman that the imminent Northcom nuclear terror exercise based in Charleston, S.C, where a nuclear warhead is smuggled off a ship and detonated, was originally intended to 'go live' - as in the drill would be used as the cover for a real false flag staged attack.

(ok- PLEASE FOLKS- EXPLAIN FURTHER.) The nuke is supposed to be an "exercise" but actually detonates....we are then told that AQ or Iran attacked us- this is used as an excuse for us to attack Iran....

I've felt for a long time that a false-flag nuke detonation would be used to start the next oil war- but TOO MANY PEOPLE KNOW THIS IS AN EXERCISE... in advance. How are they going to explain this? It doesn't make sense to me...)

A source on the scene and a long time Army devotee says the punishment doesn't fit the crime as described. The Army hates to bring heat down on itself because of this kind of thing and typically a capricious senior officer stepping outside the lines would simply be asked to take an early retirement. No sense embarassing yourself in front of the nation, would normally be the Army's position.
So.........we may never know. It maybe that someone with a lotta clout caused this reaction by the Senior service members. Oddly, the general remains in his quarters at TRADOC, has not had any charges pressed, but has had his Name and Rank removed from the mailbox.
It should be interesting to see how this all plays out, if we get the chance.

Interesting OC.

MY sources (who include some of the folks involved in the prosecution of Sgt Major McKinney in the 90's) are indicating that the General had SEVERAL girlfriends, at least one of which was a subordinate, at least one was a married civilian and one may not have achieved her majority.

The miulitary actually DOES have a problem with Statch, even in its Generals

Desipte her or they...Faal has done a lot of data mining...and right, sideways or plain wrong...she/they are putting together a lot of dots...some of which may be worth watching. The world is way to weird to depend on just one outlook.

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Published: August 11, 2005 Author: Sorcha Faal
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US Military Destroys Bomb Directed Against Chicago as Top Pentagon Doctor Killed In Helicopter Shoot-Down and US Secret Service Member Killed as United States Coup Continues

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers


Numerous troubling reports from Russian Intelligence Analysts suggest that the Coup attempt currently underway in the United States is spiraling out of control and may soon break into open, and public, hostilities vying for control over the American Government. Particularly troubling is one report detailing an American Air Force F-16 attack upon a bomb laden truck bound for the American City of Chicago but destroyed before it could reach its intended target and as we can read an American ‘sanitized’ version of this as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled "Truck ‘vaporized’ when cargo explodes" and which says;

"A truck carrying 35,500 pounds of explosives crashed and exploded Wednesday, leaving a huge crater in a Utah highway and injuring at least four people. The driver was able to get out and warn other motorists away before the truck exploded. But a passenger in the truck cab and other motorists were rushed to hospitals with injuries, Utah Highway Patrol Sgt. Todd Royce said."

According to Russian Military Analysts this American F-16 attack upon this massive truck bomb included Saudi Arabian F-16’s which arrived yesterday in the United States, and as we can read as reported by the F-16.Net News Service in their article titled "Saudi Arabia joins Red Flag exercise for first time in 25 years" and which says, "For the first time in 25 years, Saudi Arabia joins in the Red Flag exercise at Nellis Air Force Base."

Russian Intelligence Analysts are speculating that the American President had requested these Saudi Arabian F-16 Fighters during his secret meeting this week with the Saudi Rulers (and which we had previously reported on in our August 8th report titled "Bush Flees United States for Saudi Arabia as Israel Accelerates Attack Timetable in Continuing Secret War with America, US Prepares For Martial Law") as their remains mistrust between President Bush and certain elements with the American Military Establishment.

This most serious of issues between the American President and the US Military Establishment has been worsened by this weeks news that certain factions within the Pentagon had prior knowledge of the September 11, 2001 New York Massacre, and as we can read as reported by the ISN News Service in their article titled "Pentagon accused of withholding 9/11 intel" and which says;

"Allegations that the US military community had known more than a year in advance that four of the 11 September hijackers, including ringleader Mohammed Atta, were part of a US-based al-Qaida cell has sparked outrage among the victims’ relatives and prompted calls by the 9/11 Commission for a review. Lee Hamilton, a former Democratic congressman from Indiana and vice-chairman of the 9/11 Commission, which investigated the attacks on New York and Washington that killed nearly 3,000 people, told ISN Security Watch that the panel’s members were looking into the allegations. The allegations were made by a Republican lawmaker from Pennsylvania, Curt Weldon, who claimed that the US Department of Defense knew that Atta and the others were part of an al-Qaida cell in the US a year before the 9/11 attacks."

According to these reports the information on the planned Chicago bombing was ‘extracted’ from a high ranking US Air Force Officer who was in charge of protecting the Western United States Regions from attacks, but has now been put under arrest, and as usual in these events not charged with treasonous crimes but ridiculous ones, and as exampled in this case by the article from the New Zealand Herald News Service in their article titled "US air force officer charged for anti-Bush graffiti" and which says;

"A US Air Force colonel has been charged with painting obscenities on parked cars bearing pro-President Bush bumper stickers, police said. Lt Col Alexis Fecteau, who supervises 41 full-time and part-time reservists at the National Security Space Institute in Colorado Springs, Colorado, is suspected of vandalising 12 cars at Denver International Airport over a six-month period, Denver police spokesman Sonny Jackson said. "Lieutenant Colonel Fecteau has been charged with one count of felony mischief and six misdemeanor counts related to the vandalism," Jackson said."

Even more troubling are these reports detailing the murders of two Members of the American Presidents Secret Task Force to identify the true perpetrators of the September 11, 2001 Massacre, Dr. Mary E. Hamburgen who was one of the Pentagons top Research Scientists, and former head of the Secret Service protecting President Ronald Reagan, Dick Suekawa.

Dr. Hamburgen was murdered yesterday when the Finnish Helicopter she was riding on was shot down, and as we can read as reported by the Rogers Media News Service in their article titled "Divers to recover bodies of 14 believed killed in Baltic Sea helicopter crash" and which says, "Estonian and Finnish divers on Thursday started the grim task of recovering 14 bodies believed to be trapped inside a submerged helicopter that crashed in the Baltic Sea off the Estonian coast. A family member identified the two Americans on board as Lydia Riis Hamburgen, 86, of Rochester, Minnesota, and her daughter, Mary Elizabeth Hamburgen, 46, of Rolling Hills Estates, California. The two were in Estonia for a wedding, according to Arthur Hamburgen, Lydia's husband and Mary Elizabeth's father. The U.S. State Department could not confirm the information."

FSB reports state that Dr. Hamburgen had been in Estonia meeting with Lieutenant Colonel Walter T. Lord, and who is a close ‘personal friend’ of the American General Byrne who is currently under arrest, and as we had previously reported upon in our August 9th report titled "United States Military Forces Begin Coup, Top US General Arrested By Anti-Coup Factions, Russian and Chinese Military Forces Go To High Alert".

Lieutenant Colonel Lord is attached to the American Army 28th Infantry Division and the only Stryker Brigade Combat Team in the entire Army National Guard and was in Estonia as part of an exercise conducted between elements of the Estonian Army and the Maryland National Guard which are ‘sister’ units according to the US National Guard Bureau Office of International Affairs, and as they state, "In 1993, the Commander in Chief of the United States Armed Forces in Europe, and the Chief of the National Guard Bureau designated Maryland as the partner state for the Republic of Estonia. The purpose of this State Partnership Program was to strengthen military-to-military contacts between the United States military, and the military of Estonia, which had only achieved independence from the Soviet Union in 1991."

Though many Western media reports are not reporting this shot down helicopter as being crashed due to weather, a more truthful account can be read in this article reported by the Australian News Service titled "Chopper crash kills fourteen" and which says, "Mr Lepp ruled out "weather or technical conditions" as the cause of the accident. The weather was cloudy and windy when the accident occurred, but an aviation expert at the economy ministry said it was "OK for flying." An eyewitness told another television news programme, Kanal Two News, that he heard two loud bangs before the helicopter plunged into the sea, but the report has not been corroborated."

To the murder of the second member of the American Presidents Secret Task Force we can read as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled "Former Secret Service Agent Killed In Colorado Crash" and which says, "A former Secret Service agent who had served on the protective details of presidents Reagan and Carter and was the top security director at Indianapolis International Airport died in a car accident while vacationing in Colorado.Dick Suekawa died Tuesday evening when his car veered into the center median on Interstate 70 and rolled twice near Frisco, 67 miles west of Denver, Colorado State Patrol spokesman Eric Wynn said Wednesday. Suekawa died of massive head injuries, TSA spokeswoman Deirdre O'Sullivan said. His wife, Pat, who was with him, suffered a broken arm. Suekawa, a Secret Service agent for 27 years, was named Federal Security Director at the Indianapolis airport in July 2002."

As the events in this current American Coup unfold there also remains much fearful speculation regarding the massive testing of all United States Military Forces this month in what is being described as a ‘Nuclear Drill’. But as the cities of both New York, Washington DC and London can attest to, sometimes these ‘drills’ are not always what they seem to be, and as better exampled by the report titled "7/7 Mock Terror Drill: What Relationship to the Real Time Terror Attacks?" by the Centre for Research on Globalization, and which says;

"A fictional "scenario" of multiple bomb attacks on London's underground took place at exactly the same time as the bomb attack on July 7, 2005. Peter Power, Managing Director of Visor Consultants, a private firm on contract to the London Metropolitan Police, described in a BBC interview how he had organized and conducted the anti-terror drill, on behalf of an unnamed business client. The fictional scenario was based on simultaneous bombs going off at exactly the same time at the underground stations where the real attacks were occurring.

On the morning of September 11 2001, within minutes of the attack on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, the CIA had been running "a pre-planned simulation to explore the emergency response issues that would be created if a plane were to strike a building". The simulation was held at the CIA Chantilly Virginia Reconnaissance Office. The Bush administration described the event as "a bizarre coincidence". The matter was not mentioned by the media. The CIA sponsored simulation consisted in a "scheduled exercise" held on the morning of September 11, 2001, where "a small corporate jet crashed into one of the four towers at the agency's headquarters building after experiencing a mechanical failure.

In late October 2000 (more than ten months prior to 9/11), a military exercise was conducted which consisted in establishing the scenario of a simulated passenger plane crashing into the Pentagon. The Defense Protective Services Police and the Pentagon's Command Emergency Response Team coordinated the exercise. According to a detailed report by Dennis Ryan of Fort Myer Military Community's Pentagram, "the Pentagon Mass Casualty Exercise, as the crash was called, was just one of several scenarios that emergency response teams were exposed to on Oct. 24-26 [2000]": The fire and smoke from the downed passenger aircraft billows from the Pentagon courtyard. Defense Protective Services Police seal the crash sight. Army medics, nurses and doctors scramble to organize aid. (…) Don Abbott, of Command Emergency Response Training, walks over to the Pentagon and extinguishes the flames. The Pentagon was a model and the "plane crash" was a simulated one.

Rudolph Giuliani, who was mayor of New York City at the time of the 9/11 attacks, was staying at the Great Eastern hotel on the 7th of July, where TASE was hosting its economic conference, with Israel's Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu as keynote speaker. Giuliani was having a business breakfast meeting in his room at the Great Eastern Hotel, close to Liverpool Street station when the bombs went off.

Israeli Finance Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and Rudolph Giuliani knew each other. Giuliani had officially welcomed Netanyahu when he visited New York City as Prime Minister of Israel in 1996. There was no indication, however, from news reports that the two men met in London at the Great Eastern. On the day prior to the London attacks, July 6th, Giuliani was in North Yorkshire at a meeting.

After completing his term as mayor of New York City, Rudi Giuliani established a security outfit: Giuliani Security and Safety. The latter is a subsidary of Giuliani Partners LLC. headed by former New York head of the FBI, Pasquale D'Amuro. After 9/11, D'Amuro was appointed Inspector in Charge of the FBI's investigation of 9/11. He later served as Assistant Director of the Counterterrorism Division at FBI Headquarters and, Executive Assistant Director for Counterterrorism and Counterintelligence. D'Amuro had close links to the Neocons in the Bush adminstration.

It is worth noting that Visor Consultants and Giuliani Security and Safety LLC specialize in similar "mock terror drills" and "emergency preparedness" procedures. Both Giuliani and Power were in London at the same time within a short distance of one of the bombing sites."

Whatever to the final outcome of these events may be it remains true that their consequences will be felt upon the entire world, and as we can see as exampled by the Uruknet News Service article titled "Four Star General Fired For Organizing Coup Against Neo-Cons?" and which says, "Lehrman said that other sources had told him all army leave had been cancelled from September 7th onwards, opening the possibility for war to be declared within that time frame. Northcom officials also admitted to Lehrman that CNN had been using its situation room as a studio.Earlier this week, Washington Post reported that the Pentagon has developed its first ever war plans for operations within the continental United States, in which terrorist attacks would be used as the justification for imposing martial law on cities, regions or the entire country.

American Conservative Magazine recently reported that Dick Cheney had given orders to immediately invade Iran after the next terror attack in the US, even if there was no evidence Iran was involved. Government and media mouthpieces have been fearmongering for weeks about how a nuclear attack within the US is imminent."

To the American peoples themselves the knowing of these true events are kept from their knowledge, with their caring to know only those things which support their view of the world, instead of viewing the world as it truly is, and which is admittedly much more terrifying to behold.

More corraberation on all this...........

http://www.infowars.com/articles/sept11/binladen_bros_tip_off_nasa_sept_11,htm.htm

Bin Laden Brothers Tip-Off Two NASA Research Scientists In 1987 About U.S. Government Plans To Cause 9/11; Now Third Person Comes Forward To Verify Scientists' Incredible Story

Greg Szymanski | July 27, 2005

Besides the tip-off about 9/11, one of the researchers involved in a government-funded advanced brain development program says she uncovered a secret study called "Global Cleanse 2000" outlining U.S. Government strategies for intitiating global war and population reduction.

Rene Welch cut “a deal with the devil,” a deal she recently broke when she went public about her two 1987 encounters with Saudi royals, including two of the bin Laden brothers who claimed the U.S. government was actively involved in pre-arranging 9/11.

Welch’s incredible story, first made public in May, has already been verified by one other former NASA scientist. But this week another person present at the meeting also came forward to verify Welch’s story.

The meetings with the Saudis took place in Sedona and Pleasant Valley, Arizona, and lasted more than eight hours each time, the bin Ladens revealing in 1987 detailed plans how the U.S. government was planning to attack the World Trade Center, kicking off a global catastrophe, including a massive war in the Middle East.

Besides being verified by Ronald Logsdon, 49, of Philadelphia, a scientist who worked in a NASA program with Welch and also present at the bin Laden meetings, this week long time Sedona resident, Naomi Niles, also verified the Sedona meeting took place.

“Yes, I was there at one of the meetings back in 1987,” said Niles this week from her Sedona home, adding the details of the story should be left for Logsdon and Welch to describe since she was not a part of the NASA program.

And Welch not only learned about the U.S. government’s pre-planning of 9/11 from the bin Ladens back in 1987, but this week from her Albuquerque home Welch added more, saying when working for NASA as a scientist on brain development research in Phoenix, she obtained a secret computer code and was able to uncover the findings of a government-funded project titled “Global Cleanse 2000,” a study outlining strategies for global war and population reduction.

After learning of the government’s evil intentions almost 20 years ago and being a government target ever since, Welch talked about “the deal she made with the devil,” adding she always had a tacit understanding with FBI and CIA operatives, that if she’d “shut up and lay low,” they’d leave her alone.

But two months ago Welch broke the deal, deciding to tell America what she learned about the U.S. government’s pre-planning of 9/11, saying although the story’s a hard pill to swallow and “may sound unbelievable,” she felt the need to risk public humiliation, government harassment and warn Americans anyway.

“Just like before, they’ll be after me again now that I went public,” said Welch who has been drugged and beaten on several occasions by government operatives.

And since she went public in May the harassment stated again, starting in the similar subtle manner it did after she was unexpectedly approached by the Saudis, including the bin Ladens.

But Welch, instead or running and hiding, is now prepared to fight back hard, making public a 200 page document detailing information obtained about the staging of 9/11, Global Cleanse 2000 and about FBI and CIA civil rights violations.

“I’m naming names and want justice,” added Welch.

She also said she wants to document her story in a book, starting from the time she was a ‘military brat,’ her father being an Air Force B-52 pilot, when at the age of three she displayed exceptional ESP abilities and channeling powers, powers that eventually led her into the NASA program as an adult.

Concerning the 200 page diaries documenting her FBI troubles and knowledge of 9/11, copies of the documents have previously been sent to several members of the former Clinton White House, including Hillary Clinton, as well as to Taos, NM. former district attorney John Paternoster, who Welch approached in 1995 about government death threats.

Paternoster, now in private practice in Taos, recently said he couldn’t remember ever meeting Welch or hearing about the bin Laden story.

“He knows me and an investigator named Martinez was even assigned to my case,” said Welch this week in a telephone conversation from her New Mexico home. “I saw him several times and even have kept receipts from his office, given to me regarding the 200 page document I gave him. He just wants the whole thing to go away and is probably afraid to tell the truth.

Regarding possible FBI and CIA further retaliation, she added:

“What’s the difference if they’re planning global war and mass population reduction,” said Welch. “When I worked for NASA Application Technical Center In Phoenix, involved in brain development and mind control projects, I accessed the code for the computers and read a secret project they were working on called “Global Cleanse 2000,” outlining certain strategies like 9/11 to start a global war and how other strategies regarding how to reduce the world’s population.

“Now, again, after I went public, the harassment has started, my phone is tapped and they are starting to mess with my life. This time I am really frightened since they are very serious about keeping people like me, who know too much, quiet since they are getting closer to their objective of destroying this country.

“In the past I noticed when I stayed quiet, they left me alone. But when I started talking, the harassment then followed. That’s how I know they are still watching me and have always been watching me.”

Welch’s claim that two of the outspoken bin Laden brothers, not Osama, told her about the U.S. government’s plans to stage 9/11in 1987 is not an idle fantasy or a story made up by a hyper-sensitive person’s imagination.

Logsdon, the other NASA employed scientist who worked along side Welch, verified her story this way:

"Two of the bin Laden brothers came some 90 miles from Phoenix, Arizona, and stopped at our doorstep unannounced. Their bodyguards set up a surveillance parameter around our property and others came into our house, taped up the windows and set up a film projector. The people in this motorcade seemed very scared, and presented this as a matter of life and death," recalled Logsdon, who said at the time in 1987 the couple had no idea about the eventual 9/11 implications.

"These men told us to be very cautious and to assume that we were under surveillance by our government. For several hours they showed us films of meetings of key Arabs and U.S. government officials discussing the oil issues. The bottom line was that if the Arabs did not do it their way, the U.S. would simply take their oil by force. They also explained that they have been manipulated into setting up bank accounts where oil profits were siphoned off and were no longer under their control.

"They then explained why the World Trade Centers were the ideal target for this purpose. The two bin Ladens showed us this film because they made it very clear how they did not want to be involved with any U.S. plot to manipulate the Arab governments or start a war."

Regarding the ongoing government harassment to keep her quiet, Welch said a two year period in the mid 1990s was most troubling when an agent infiltrated her life, finally using drugs and other types of physical harassment to get information after gaining her trust.

“I wouldn’t be honest if I didn’t tell you I was scared again and I know some people have a hard time believing this story, but it’s true,” said Welch, recalling the years when she said the agent who used the name Alfred Hermendorf injected her with several types of different drugs.

“But I am going to release the information and tell my story in a book because these people are evil and want to destroy America. There is a global catastrophe right around the corner and they may even make it look like a natural disaster. But I saw the plans back in the 1980s and after 9/11. I know it is going to happen unless we quickly get Bush out of power.”

Welch and Logsdon became aware of this radical element in our government, trying to create this new world order, when they worked together as scientists at NASA’s Application Technical Center Institute in Phoenix.

Together with over 100 "think tank" participants, Logsdon, an engineer, and Welch, a licensed hypnotism -therapist and head of the Global Elite Scientist’s Club, were developing technology to better understand the brain’s memory and psychic ability capacities.

The pair came up with they called the "light and sound" machine, receiving much praise during the 80s for what was thought then to be ground breaking work. It was this project that eventually brought them in contact with the bin Ladens, creating the backdrop for why they both know 9/11 was a staged U.S. government event.

"They (at NASA) ended up stealing our work and then after the bin Laden incident denied knowing that Rene and I even existed," said Logsdon.