PREPS PART 28: BARTER ITEMS

LilRose8

Veteran Member
Well, TSHTF and we are all on our own. We have used up our 3 weeks of immediate preps and are working on the longer stored items.
Some things are getting low. OR you are set for years but would like some luxury items.
What do you have in place to use as barter items?

I have added some velcro, sewing kits, feminine sanitary items, diapers, basic first aide items like diaper rash ointment and toothbrushing kits.

What have you got?
 

MaxTheKnife

Membership Revoked
Extra knives, guns and ammo set aside specifically for trade goods. Also, an extra generator and spare gas. Don't forget about trading skills and labor for food or luxury items. I have a small diesel tractor and will be able to use that for as long as the diesel lasts which would be about a year or more with strict control on its use.

If you have a pond with fish in it you can trade fresh fish for stuff you need. And if you have a blacksmith operation you can get about anything you need by forging simple hand tools and knives and whatnot for trade. I've been a bartering fool for years now and do a fair amount of business already. I trade homemade wine for ammo or fishing equipment and all manner of things. I have a good friend that brings me a 5 gallon bucket full of wild muscadine grapes every year and I make wine and split it with him. And I have a homebrew making setup ready to start cranking out the beer for trade goods. In fact, I'm getting ready to start up my summertime homebrew operation right now. It takes about two weeks from start to finish in order to have good homebrew to drink.

Anyway, that's all that comes to mind right now but I know that there are lots of other things I have around here for trade goods. I've lived my life this way so long it just comes natural to me. I love a good trade! :D
 

Housecarl

On TB every waking moment
Cooking spices like salt, pepper, paparika, tyme, garlic powder, chili sause, tabasco, mustard, ketchup, etc. They don't take up much space and if freeze dried can last for quite a while.
 
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closet squirrel

Veteran Member
I have been saving seed packs that I get cheap at the end of the season for this purpose. I get stuff that I dont even normally grow, whatever they have on clearance. I have 2003 and 2004 stored now, will ditch the 2003 and get 2005 this fall. I know the optimal thing to do is to not plant old seeds, but in a SHTF situation, even if only half germinate, that is better than nothing. I think people will suddenly be thinking about growing their own food, and seeds would be good to barter with. Also, if someone had something I really needed, I might be willing to trade use of my tiller, but it would have to be worth the gas.
 

Splicer205

Deceased
Wow, you guys 'bout have it covered. Only thing I can think of off the top of my head to add to the list is shoelaces, lamp wicks, pocket combs, baggies, 00 capsules for filling with herbs, and shampoo.
 

Mark D

Now running for Emperor.
Quickies from memory.

Tampons.
Maxi-pads.
Diapers.
Baby Wipes.
Toilet Paper.
Aspirin.
Tylenol.
Advil.
Rolaids.
Toothpaste.
Toothbrushes.
Shampoo
Liquid Soap
Bar Soap.
Antiseptic.
Bandaids.
Gauze Pads.
Rolled Gauze.

Then:
Booze.
Cigs.
Matches/Lighters.
Coffee.
Soda Pop.
Chocolate.
Sugar.
Salt.
Ammo.
Duct Tape.

Then:
Whatever comes to mind.
 

Lei

Veteran Member
Spices

herbs from my garden. All that rice is going to need some pepping up. Chilli peppers from my 4 foot bush ! :eleph:
 

Kimber

Membership Revoked
Axes. Lots of well made axes. And firestarters of all shapes and sizes.

It's sort of a hobby that I justify by knowing I'd have to part with some in a TSHTF scenario.

David
 

prudentwatcher

Veteran Member
I keep a "barter box" where I toss in items I find on sale or get samples of. Box has toothbrushes, toothpaste, razors, maxi-pads, tampons, generic aspirin, the single rolls of tp, and matches. Few other odds and ends, but those are the main items.
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
WOOHOO you guys are on a roll.

MARK rolaids..great idea
CLOSET SQUIRREL...I love the seeds idea.
MAX....home brewed beer!...do you grow your own hops?
ok, how about tobacco and rolling papers.
Paperback books, writing paper and pencils.
Athletes foot medicine and feminine yeast meds.

Does anyone know if chocolate will last longer if it is vacuum sealed?
 

spinner

Veteran Member
Hand knit socks, hats, mittens, sweaters, scarves. Handspun wool yarn.

Herbal liniment, salve, tinctures, teas

Plants

I vacuum seal seeds with my pump-n-seal in glass jars. Seems to work really well, I used some seeds from last and two years ago and the germination rate was very good.

spinner
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
spinner said:
Hand knit socks, hats, mittens, sweaters, scarves. Handspun wool yarn.

Herbal liniment, salve, tinctures, teas

Plants

I vacuum seal seeds with my pump-n-seal in glass jars. Seems to work really well, I used some seeds from last and two years ago and the germination rate was very good.

spinner
Spinner, I read somewhere that freezing seeds makes them last longer. Do you know if this is true?
 

spinner

Veteran Member
LilRose,

I don't know if it works for all seeds, but I have sprouted seeds that I have kept for several years in the freezer and had perfect germination. Planted beans that were in the freezer and they grew, too. Some seeds need to be frozen to germinate. Tomatoes, squash, cucumbers, melons, lettuce and probably things I am forgetting volunteer in the compost from seed even after wintering in temperatures as low as -35 f. so it seems like it is probably true at least for most seeds.

spinner
 

Hotshot

Inactive
We keep an asst. of item to barter.The one thing I would never hand out would be guns or ammo in that it could be used on me to take all my preps. I beleive a skill is the most valuable because you can always trade it for anything and never lose it.
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
How about flea drops for household pets?
fishing gear like hooks and lures, and nets.
benadryl and allergy meds.
cortisone cream.

And don't forget your SKILLS.......as nurses we would have plenty to offer. But, I might need someone to help rig up a solar array, or get chopped wood from someone. Or help repair a well. Or the roof if it will take more than 1-2 people.
 

DustMusher

Inactive
ANYTHING which feeds an addiction.

Books, and reading stuff

fabric

zippers

the willingness to TEACH the skills you have

cleaning supplies -- especially brooms -- no elec. no vaccuums

Stuff that makes everyday life now nice or low tech replacements for electical appliances.

DM
 

Greybeard7

Veteran Member
blueberry said:
Matches
Food
Sewing items
Tea
Asprin, other OTC meds
Salt

I'll probably think of more later :rolleyes:

blueberry:

I agree on a couple, but disagree on a couple of others.

Food. No. Not a trade good for me. It indicates I have a surplus, and makes me a target.

Salt. Maybe. Depends on the situation. There is currently so much available, I would expect that there would still be plenty around to be scrounged from various places.

Tea. Again, maybe. Depends on the situation and your "customer" base.

Matches. Definitely. Lots of kitchen matches in current inventory available for trade. A VERY convenient consumable, and VERY difficult to make in primitive conditions. (Also, an essential for many people as knowledge of how to start a fire without them is rare in the general populace, IMO.)

Aspirin. Yes. Again, most natural alternatives are mostly unknown to the general populace.

Unlike many others, I do have ammunition that I would trade. I would seriously consider trading 5 or 10 rounds of .22LR ammo for a rabbit or other small game animal. This trade also indicates that the other party is using the ammo for food procurement, and is not a quantity or caliber that would encourage hostile use. It doesn't mean that they couldn't, just that they probably have more sense than to try. Larger calibers, not unless the other person was well known and trusted.

Knowledge and services will be good trade items, IMO.

A solar shower, with a tarp for a "shower stall", and a small medicine cup of shampoo might bring a surprising offer. It doesn't require potable water, and the price for those willing to haul their own water would, of course, be cheaper. (If you've ever gone a long time without a hot shower, you realize what a luxury it is and how GREAT you feel afterwards.) A small bit of civilization can be a real morale booster when everything else has gone to pot.

Along the same line, cheap toothbrushes and travel size tubes of toothpaste are small, inexpensive items that could have great value for those without them.

GB7
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
After reading this may I suggest that for your own supplies you have a case or several boxes of sandwich size Ziploc storage bags. It can be difficult to find something to put salt, spices ammo., etc. in. And those may be an item hard to come by if tshtf.

If you use the small bags it looks like you are giving more. :D

You can get the cases at Costco or Sams club. They are way more cheaper that way.
 

Dancr

Inactive
According to a report released today by the Food Marketing Institute, among the most frequently shoplifted items are Advil, Early Pregnancy Tests and hemorroid ointment. It's easy to imagine someone being desperate to have these things and willing to pay or do almost anything to have them. Things that are easy to lift are also easy to store, transport and trade. See also specially marked items at:
<a href="http://www.lacarte.org/calamity/purchase/">Calamity Purchases, à la Carte: What to Buy Before Global Economic Collapse</a>
 

Anne in TN

Deceased
We just installed a well with hand pump. Do you think it would be fair to barter water? Or would folks just run us over and take it?

At this point, we are keeping the well hidden from sight but, if someone were dying of thirst, I would give them the water and tell them that anything they care to give for payment would be okay. I can just see the whole neighborhood lining up. They are all on city water, and the two that aren't do not have a hand pump for their wells.

Anne
 

Big Bob

Senior Member
Low cost sharpening stones
Automatic transmission fluid makes a decent gun oil and is cheap
Glass baby food jars to store liquids and spices
Smoking pipes: you can grow tobacco, rolling paper is another story.
Zippo flints and wicks
Leather work gloves
Mouse traps
 

Jesse

Membership Revoked
G'morning!

We're not planning on trading many material items. I'm a Naturopath and will help *anyone* who's sick. IF they can offer something in return, it will be accepted. If not, I will still help.

DH & I were also professional musicians for decades. (Still are on a limited basis.) We can do gatherings and get-togethers with acoustic instruments. That's usually something that's in demand. They say, "Music soothes the savage beast." And I believe the same is true of the nerves of people who are going through hard times. Music can bring a community together. (Note to self: get more guitar, mandolin and violin strings etc. ) Recorders don't wear out and neither do blues harps & harmonicas.

I have several degrees and an advanced degree in photography, and I'm storing film and am in the process of buying (in a couple of weeks) what it takes to develop it. When digital goes down the drain along with the technology that enables it, I believe people will still *always* want at least ONE picture of their wedding, family gathering, new baby, or other emotionally important event. I will (God willing) be able to deliver that service - at least for a good long while.

I'm also a writer, and so can write stories, serials (like some others here), which folks can read and pass around. People need new "brain food" to keep them going and you really can't beat a good story. Jesus knew that!

Both DH and I have extensive experience as counselors, and will use those skills in the same way I hope to use my medical skills.

We home-schooled our own children and can educate others just as easily. Not just in the "three 'R's'" but in survival skills too.

I garden year round and can teach people how to convert a room in their home to do the same. (We have already done this and use it now.) We have stored and frozen (yes, they will germinate) an abundant supply of non-hybrid seeds. I believe they will be *very* useful as barter items, and are the only material items we plan to use as such.

DH & I can teach people to build a shelter for next to nothing, in very little time.

Inexpensive tents will be great barter items for families with no shelter, until they can build their own. You can get a pretty decent family tent for $60 from Wally-world in these parts. I know I get scorned for it here, but I still maintain that Teepee's are a terrific investment! They are, however, rather more expensive than tents, but a whole family can live in one year round even in Canadian winters at 50 below (and they are portable should you need to be on the move). The natives did it for years here and many still do.

We do have one other material item I almost forgot about - coffee. We don't drink coffee in our house - not the regular kind anyway (we drink decaf international coffee's and NO - they are not for trade :lol: ), but we have a respectable supply (in our freezer) of regular coffee sealed in Mylar, collected from years of hotel stays where we didn't drink the complimentary coffee left for us. We take them home along with the personal shampoos, soaps etc that we prefer not to use in favor of using our own. (So I guess we have personal soaps & shampoos to give out to those who need them too.)

I can also knit, sew, and make Mukluks and Moccasins. I don't think I'll have time to do that for others though. They take a while to make and I can see to my own family but I doubt I'll have time to make them for others. What I CAN do is TEACH others HOW to make them for their own families.

I believe teaching what we know will be very valuable in the coming months and years - if we are spared. Perhaps knowledge is the best bartering item of all.

Love to all - Jesse
 

MissTina

Inactive
Seriously...how come I never see condoms on these lists?

DH loves the clearance isle at Osco...anything he can pick up for .25 he does and throws in a storage tub.
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
MissTina said:
Seriously...how come I never see condoms on these lists?

DH loves the clearance isle at Osco...anything he can pick up for .25 he does and throws in a storage tub.
Miss Tina.....condoms are a seriously good idea. Getting pregnant during very stressful times is NOT a great plan. And Mother Nature LOVES to get women pregnant under those circumstances. Not to mention STDs will still be among us.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
Anne in TN said:
We just installed a well with hand pump. Do you think it would be fair to barter water? Or would folks just run us over and take it?

At this point, we are keeping the well hidden from sight but, if someone were dying of thirst, I would give them the water and tell them that anything they care to give for payment would be okay. I can just see the whole neighborhood lining up. They are all on city water, and the two that aren't do not have a hand pump for their wells.

Anne


Anne, if you are the only one with water maybe it would be an idea to fill those 16 oz. or quart plastic bottles with water now and hand them out if someone needs drinking water. Because if people know you are prepared with your own well they may figure you have a lot more than that.
 

pkchicken

resident chicken
We just had our (pitcher pump shallow well) water tested , it's positive for bacteria but it isn't ecoli and the well can be clorinated and then retested.

Have you had the water tested . The lab here did it for $30 although there are more extensive tests for more money.

pk
 

Jesse

Membership Revoked
What... no Valium?

I see nobody mentioned Valium - unless I missed it. :lol: With all the frazzled nerves there are sure to be, it might not be a bad thing to have. It doesn't work for me, but it does for most folks.

If I had to choose one thing to have around that *isn't* on the "usual" list, it would be morphine. People are bound to get injured and require surgery. Others will continue to get diseases such as cancer which can be subjectively unpleasant in it's final stages. I'd want morphine myself, and I'd want some to give out where it is really needed.

I know where to get it, but at the present time that would send me to jail. Perhaps when TSHTF it won't be such a major issue - as in TPTB will be too busy to worry about black market pharmaceuticals. One can only hope. - Jesse.
 

Hansa44

Justine Case
Jesse said:
I see nobody mentioned Valium - unless I missed it. :lol: With all the frazzled nerves there are sure to be, it might not be a bad thing to have. It doesn't work for me, but it does for most folks.

If I had to choose one thing to have around that *isn't* on the "usual" list, it would be morphine. People are bound to get injured and require surgery. Others will continue to get diseases such as cancer which can be subjectively unpleasant in it's final stages. I'd want morphine myself, and I'd want some to give out where it is really needed.

I know where to get it, but at the present time that would send me to jail. Perhaps when TSHTF it won't be such a major issue - as in TPTB will be too busy to worry about black market pharmaceuticals. One can only hope. - Jesse.

Well, if it's pain medication you want to stock up on for the correct or incorrect use just ask any teenager or someone in a bar. :D
 
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