OK... SOMETHING NEW - Original post 5/2005

LilRose8

Veteran Member
How about a new weekly thread....Each week we choose a prep area, something we all use or would make use of if TSHTF and make a list of what we would include.
This would be similar to the 7th Day Adventist $5.00 a week plan but can include non-food preps as well.
This way, we can all see what others consider important in any given area.
For instance........this week let's do lighting.
I have railroad lanterns, candles, matches, oil lamps, flashlights.......what else do we need on the list?
 

neosgirl

Mom of 2 beautiful girls
I'd be interested in hearing more about the $5.00/day plan thingy - hadn't heard of that before...

All in all, a great idea lilrose!
 

old bear

Deceased
Seeing how things are starting to shape up I think this is a good idea.

Not too much to add to the list.. I have learned to put a mirror behind a kerosene lanp to get more light from the same amount of fuel.
They still make propane house lights that are pretty safe and not too expensive to run. Thay can also be run on methane that you can make yourself at home. .
 

timbo

Deceased
Maybe instead of adding to the list,just put what you have as well.

I bought one of the 1 1/2 million watt spotlight. It might come in handy like hunting in the off hours in a shtf sitrep.

Does a great job just sweeping an area too.....cant hide in that light.
 

MaxTheKnife

Membership Revoked
Solar powered lighting. Either AC or DC. Emergency lighting that's a permanent part of your home in case of power outages. Like the ones you see in school hallways and such. And any innovations folks have come up with that makes it easier and cheaper. How am I doing so far?
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
I do have a wonderful camping light made by Coleman I think that takes a big square battery....what are those called? I had one that worked for YEARS on one battery. And it throws out great light.
 

Unique

Inactive
Love my dynamo&solar Radio/light

Solar charging
DC 3v charging
Dynamo charging (Manual winding)

Got mine from Emergency Essentials

The light can flash or just be a flash light.

http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_360
Solar/Handcrank Radio w/ Flashlight (4 Power)

4 power sources, flashlight has multiple settings

$24.99 $26.95
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
Unique said:
Love my dynamo&solar Radio/light

Solar charging
DC 3v charging
Dynamo charging (Manual winding)

Got mine from Emergency Essentials

The light can flash or just be a flash light.
I bought one of those and the radio died after the first use..everything else works but the radio
 

MaxTheKnife

Membership Revoked
You remember the Luxeon star group buy OddOne set up last year LilRose? That's what I used for my emergency lighting setup and it wound up costing me just under $30 for everything besides what I already had. Those Luxeon Star lights are awesome and will last way longer than me. Of course, the battery will call it quits in a few years so there's that to think about. Heh. ;)
 

Seabird

Veteran Member
old bear said:
Not too much to add to the list.. I have learned to put a mirror behind a kerosene lanp to get more light from the same amount of fuel.
. .


Old Bear, that's a great idea. We use mirrors to make space seem bigger, but it sure would work great to enhance the light in a dark room.

I'll tell you, when you have hurricane shutters on every window, no electric, etc., those lanterns (be they battery operated or oil) it's not very bright at all. We were trying to play cards one night, and my "aging" eyes :lol: could not see anything. A mirror may have done the trick. Thanks.

(Great idea, LilRose ;) )

Seabird
 

rhughe13

Heart of Dixie
MaxTheKnife said:
You remember the Luxeon star group buy OddOne set up last year LilRose? That's what I used for my emergency lighting setup and it wound up costing me just under $30 for everything besides what I already had. Those Luxeon Star lights are awesome and will last way longer than me. Of course, the battery will call it quits in a few years so there's that to think about. Heh. ;)
I'm wanting to replace the bulbs in my 2 AA pen mag light and 2D mag light with LED's. Where is the best place to get those Luxeons? What's the best deal on LED flashlights now days?
 

AZ GRAMMY

Inactive
neosgirl

there are many $5.00 a week shopping lists, here is one of them. adjust it to suit you food likes & dislikes

old y2k list
$5 a week/2 people plan)

"The revelation to store food may be as important to our temporal salvation, today, as boarding the ark was to the people in the day of Noah." --Pres. Ezra Taft Benson

January
"When the time of need arrives, the time for preparation is past"

Suggested items--25 lbs. rice, 10 bars soap
72 Hour Kit: Back pack or tote bag and 2 bars of soap With family have an emergency meeting place with map and escape plan.

February
"There is no royal road to anything. Careful planning, hard work, and determination to reach an objective is the plan to success."

Suggested items--25 lbs. oats, 10 candles
72 Hour Kit: 1 large candle, 3 day supply food (Milk carton with 2 liters of water) Water purifying tablets, supplies for infants

March
"We encourage all Latter-day Saint families to become self-reliant and independent."

Suggested items--25 lbs. dried beans (Variety) 5 boxes matches
72 Hour Kit: Matches, battery powered radio. Finish anything not done in February.

April
"The Lord has warned us of famines, but the righteous will have listened to the prophets, and stored at least a years supply." --Pres. Benson

Suggested items--25 lbs. pasta (variety), 2 flashlights and batteries
72 Hour Kit: Flashlight and extra batteries, paper and pencil, pencil sharpener, 10 one dollar bills

May
"But if any provide not for his own and specially for his own house, he hath denied the faith." The Apostle Paul

Suggested items--5 lbs. yeast, 10 pkg. toilet paper
72 Hour Kit: Toilet paper, paper towels, paper plates and cups, plastic
utensils.
Review emergency map and escape plans.

June
"It is easier to keep up than to catch up."

Suggested items--5 lbs. oil or shortening, extra blankets
72 Hour Kit: Change of clothes for each family member--don't forget shoes.
Sleeping bag or blankets. Instruction manuals on Emergency Preparedness and First Aid

July
"Only those who have the patience to do simple things perfectly will acquire the skills to do difficult things easily."

Suggested items--25 lbs. dry milk, First Aid Kit
72 Hour Kit: First Aid Kit, utility knife and can opener

August
"We will see the day when we will live on what we produce." --Pres. Marion G. Romney

Suggested items--Spices (those most used), feminine items
72 Hour Kit: Feminine items, plastic bags and ties for garbage, plastic baggies
Personal Documents: Scriptures, genealogy, legal papers, checkbook, etc.

September
"Dig a well before you get thirsty."

Suggested items--5 lbs. salt per person, 3 boxes laundry soap
72 Hour Kit: 10 one dollar bills, small ax, single flare, laundry soap
Review emergency plan with family.

October
"Let's be thankful for bread to live. Let's be thankful for bread to give."

Suggested items--10 lbs. peanut butter, medicines
72 Hour Kit: Medicines (Prescription and over the counter--ex. Tylenol, cold medicines)
Add to First Aid kit extra supplies

November
"Thrifty is the person who plans for tomorrow and not just for today."

Suggested items--100 lbs. potatoes, vitamins
72 Hour Kit: Bucket (plastic bucket with tight fitting lid), personal hygiene items (shaving, deodorant, shampoo, razor)

December
"If ye are prepared, ye shall not fear."

Suggested items--25 lbs. sugar or honey, toothpaste
72 Hour Kit: Toothbrush and toothpaste, disinfectant, 10 one dollar bills
Review emergency map and escape plan


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Food storage for $5 a week. What you are supposed to do is set aside $5 a week and then buy specific items each week. You have a kitty set aside that you put the $5 in and you can't touch it for any reason but to buy the food storage item for that week. You put in whatever remaining change you have back into the kitty. Some things in the beginning are going to be cheap and then later will be more expensive. In order to pay for the expensive stuff later you need to keep the leftover money in the kitty.

Week 1: Two cans tuna fish, 2 boxes salt
Week 2: 5 boxes of Macaroni and Cheese, 4 cans tomato soup
Week 3: 3 cans mushroom soup, 1 2.5 lb peanut butter
Week 4: 1 bottle vitamins
Week 5: 4 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 6: 1 bottle aspirin (500 tablets)
Week 7: 1 100 lb container wheat
Week 8: 1 5 lb powdered milk
Week 9: 1 5 lb honey
Week 10: 4 cans tuna, 4 boxes macaroni and cheese
Week 11: 1 10 lb sugar, 1 box salt
Week 12: 4 cans mushroom soup
Week 13: 1 bottle vitamins
Week 14: 1 100 lb wheat
Week 15: 1 box macaroni and cheese
Week 16: 1 5 lb honey
Week 17: 2 cans tuna, 4 can tomato soup
Week 18: 1 10 lbs sugar
Week 19: 1 100 lbs of wheat
Week 20: 2 10lbs of sugar
Week 21: 1 10lb powdered milk
Week 22: 1 can mushroom soup, 1 10 lb sugar
Week 23: 1 can tuna, 4 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lbs sugar
Week 24: 1 10 lbs sugar
Week 25: 2 cans tuna, 2 cans mushroom soup
Week 26: 1 100 lb wheat
Week 27: 3 10 lbs sugar
Week 28: 1 10 lb sugar
Week 29: 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 30: 2 10 lb sugar
Week 31: 1 can tuna, 3 cans mushroom soup
Week 32: 1 can tuna, 4 cans tomato soup
Week 33: 1 100 lb wheat
Week 34: 2 cans tuna, 1 box salt
Week 35: 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 36: 2 10 lb sugar
Week 37: 4 cans tomato soup, 2 boxes salt
Week 38:
Week 39: 1 100 lb wheat
Week 40: 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 41: 3 10 lb sugar
Week 42: 2 cans tomato soup, 1 10 lb sugar
Week 43: 2 cans tomato soup, 2 cans mushroom soup
Week 44:
Week 45: 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 46: 4 cans tomato soup, 4 cans mushroom soup
Week 47: 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 48: 4 cans mushroom soup, 1 10 lb powdered milk
Week 49: 7 cans of tomato soup
Week 50: 7 cans of mushroom soup
Week 51: 2 10 lbs sugar, 1 box salt

A few weeks you will have "off" to replenish the kitty. I haven't figured it out myself, but by the end you should have 700lbs of
wheat, 240 lbs sugar, 40 lbs of powdered milk, 13 lbs of salt, 10 lbs of honey, 5 lbs of peanut butter, 45 cans of tomato soup, 32 cans mushroom soup, 15 cans tuna fish, 10 macaroni and cheese dinners, 500 aspirin, and 730 multiple vitamins plus they suggest adding 6lbs of dried yeast and 6 lbs of shortening and this should be enough to sustain 2 people for a year. For every 2 people you have in your family add $5 more and double or triple the amount of whatever you are buying that week. I hope this makes sense and if you have any questions let me know. For those of you not in the US, you'll have to figure out the equivalents yourself, sorry.~Contributed by Pam (Not her idea, though)
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
MaxTheKnife said:
You remember the Luxeon star group buy OddOne set up last year LilRose? That's what I used for my emergency lighting setup and it wound up costing me just under $30 for everything besides what I already had. Those Luxeon Star lights are awesome and will last way longer than me. Of course, the battery will call it quits in a few years so there's that to think about. Heh. ;)
Max...I wasn't on TBK a year ago...can you find me a link?
 

Trek

Inactive
LilRose said:
http://theideadoor.com/FoodStorage.html

the list is kind of limited in variety but you can tailor to your needs


Cool site, thanks! But you should know... it's NOT Seventh Day Adventist. It's Mormon (Latter Day Saints).

Or, am I making a mistake too? Mormons = Latter Day Saints, right?

Anyway... SDA's don't prep beyond memorizing scripture for when "our Bibles are taken away". At least not officially, and certainly not the majority.

But those Latter Day Saints... a ton of great info gleaned from them through the years!
 

macten_1

Membership Revoked
"I bought one of the 1 1/2 million watt spotlight. It might come in handy like hunting in the off hours in a shtf sitrep."

I bought 2 of those lights mainly for power outages or any other disaster type situation....like trying to put a piece of plywood over a broken skylight in the middle of the night. I find that I use the light almost every day.....

Gander Mountain just had a 10 million candle power light on sale for $39.95.....
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
Trek said:
Cool site, thanks! But you should know... it's NOT Seventh Day Adventist. It's Mormon (Latter Day Saints).

Or, am I making a mistake too? Mormons = Latter Day Saints, right?

Anyway... SDA's don't prep beyond memorizing scripture for when "our Bibles are taken away". At least not officially, and certainly not the majority.

But those Latter Day Saints... a ton of great info gleaned from them through the years!
Right you are TREK I stand correct-treked ;)
 

Trek

Inactive
:lol: Cute! Sorry if I came off picky. It's the dang SDA's... I've got a few pet peeves about them. Couldn't let them get credit for what they haven't done right!
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
no offense taken.........it is easy to confuse them and I am glad you set me staright...can't have folks giving out false info, right?
 

bluefire

Senior Member
All of the above are good suggestions. The only thing I might add would be either a 'crank-charge' or 'shake-charge' flashlight, for backup.
 

prudentwatcher

Veteran Member
I have several battery lanterns and lots of extra batteries, in addition to oil lamps (with gallons of extra oil), a propane lantern (with about a dozen cannisters of propane), tons of candles (with lots of matches), lots of flashlights.

I would add a LED headlamp so your hands could be free when cooking and some lightsticks to use as nightlights. You can't have too many batteries, but try to standardize what you use so it will be easier to rotate. I got one of those shake flashlights for Christmas. I also have a hand-pumped flashlight/lantern(?).
 

TJA

Veteran Member
As far as lighting goes we've got about 20 of the large bay candles I believe they're called. Picked those up at Michaels on sale for $3 each. 4 D cell Mag light and 8 extra batteries. Four batteryless flash lights, two shake and two crank. Theres about 3 dozen spare 60 watt bulds stashed away in the closet somewhere. I'd like to pick up some sort of solar charger soon.
 

cooter

cantankerous old coot
how about this,,,,,,,

how many of you have coleman fuel camp stoves,,,,,,,,,,,

did you know you can get a adapter for it so you can run propane too,,,,,,,,

made by century,,,,,, heres a link to a page that shows you what they look like,,,got mine at walmart,,,,,,,

plus you can get a hose adapter that lets you run from a 20lb can to your stove so you dont have to mess with the 1lb bottles,,,,,(remember to keep the 20lb cans out of the house,)

http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p...2&doVSearch=no&pageBucket=0&parentPage=family
 

Splicer205

Deceased
Petromax lantern, double wick Amish lamp, Amish propane wall mounted lights, lantern that burns oil or paraffin.

A stand of cattails (for outdoor use) which, dipped in any kerosene, oil, fat, etc. will burn quite a while.

A collection of large buttons, string, and cotton. Lay button on cotton, tie string snugly at the top of the button so the button will lay flat. Twist top or trim, place in olive oil, wait for it to soak into the cotton, light wick.
 

tsk

Membership Revoked
And God said: "Let there be light". And there was.

When TSHTF, God will provide the light for most of the day. Free of charge!

(as long as you don't live... underground) :dvl1:

good idea on the thread LilRose. I'll check my light situation this week.

tsk, tsk... :usfl:
 

Angel Lady

Inactive
Great thread! I like the idea of starting a new subject every week. It will help us all to remember what we need to get or add to what we already have. As for me, I definitely need to work on the lighting situation. I have gotten some good ideas here, thanks everyone.

:wvflg:
 

tsk

Membership Revoked
may want to recap information highlights from the prior weeks thread in the following weeks thread...

Does that make sense? :shr:

Maybe even take threads out of main forum and put in own category?


tsk, tsk... :usfl:
 
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LilRose8

Veteran Member
splicerswife said:
Petromax lantern, double wick Amish lamp, Amish propane wall mounted lights, lantern that burns oil or paraffin.

A stand of cattails (for outdoor use) which, dipped in any kerosene, oil, fat, etc. will burn quite a while.

A collection of large buttons, string, and cotton. Lay button on cotton, tie string snugly at the top of the button so the button will lay flat. Twist top or trim, place in olive oil, wait for it to soak into the cotton, light wick.
Splicerswife! Great ideas! I am a little hazy on the button wick instructions. Can you clarify?
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
tsk said:
may want to recap information highlights from the prior weeks thread in the following weeks thread...

Does that make sense? :shr:

Maybe even have take out of main forum and put in own category?


tsk, tsk... :usfl:
sounds good.....a recap will condense the weeks ideas and make them easy to read. It might be a good idea to keep them all in one place for reference.
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
When trying to stock up it pays to shop the coupon sales where veggies are 4/$1 and tuna 3/$1 and whatever is on sale as loss leaders to bring customers into the store. That is how you stock up on the cheap.
Mayo $1 Chicken breasts $1 a pound(can them when they are this cheap) soup 4//$1 jello 4 or 5/$1 sometimes you can get 10" candles on sale 4/$1 or sometimes they have case lot sales (be careful , not all case lot sales are cheaper than single purchase price) And REMEMBER YOU CAN USE MANUFACTURERS COUPONS IN ADDITON TO STORE COUPONS.
 

FreeYourMind

Membership Revoked
I've got several flashlights, even the lantern kind, and plenty of batteries. I also have candles. I can't store propane or anything like that where I live (nothing management thinks is highly flammable). I'm thinking of getting a good shaking-type flashlight, though.
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
RECAP will be edited as new ideas come in
Week one: Lighting

Candles, you can’t have enough
Flashlights, both battery and shake-type, as well as LED and crank

http://www.everlifeflashlight.com/

Oil lamps and extra wicks and extra glass shades
Oil lamp fuel, you can't have enough
Matches, stock up
Mirrors behind lamps for enhancing light
1 1/2 million watt spot light for night work or finding intruders
solar powered lighting
camping lanterns, both battery powered and propane powered
propane fuel
solar charging battery/lantern duo
http://beprepared.com/category.asp_Q_c_E_360

lightsticks
LED headlamp for handsfree work
Solar charger
Hose adapter for large propane tank
http://www.dickssportinggoods.com/p...rentPage=family

Petromax lantern, double wick Amish lamp, Amish propane wall mounted lights, lantern that burns oil or paraffin.

A stand of cattails (for outdoor use) which, dipped in any kerosene, oil, fat, etc. will burn quite a while.

A collection of large buttons, string, and cotton. Lay button on cotton, tie string snugly at the top of the button so the button will lay flat. Twist top or trim, place in olive oil, wait for it to soak into the cotton, light wick.
Olive oil lamps and supply of olive oil or other vegetable oil.

If lighting supplies are on sale, buy extra.
Save your extra flashlights parts or get extra bulbs and springs.
Blocks of wax and string to make your own candles.
 
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Fred's Horseradish

Membership Revoked
I have several hundred candles I got in my last order from India. Good to have them. They're religious candles, but they give light just as well. I hope to get other lighting goods fr India too.

LDS, not SDA, that's right. SDA's don't prep very well. I know a lot of them. & I know why they don't, if anyone is interested.
Fred
 

Tundra Gypsy

Veteran Member
I have several of Lehman's Olive Oil lamps. They will be useful when I run out of lamp oil and kerosene. I plan to stock up on some oil olive too. Great thread; thank you LilRose.
 

tsk

Membership Revoked
check this flashlight out: no batteries, no solar needed...anyone have one of these?

http://www.everlifeflashlight.com/

Never Get Caught in the Dark Again
The EverLife Flashlight uses no batteries or bulbs. Instead it uses your energy and Induction to produce a bright light using efficient LED technology. Just shake the light for about 30 seconds and the EverLife Flashlight will provide about 5 minutes of light. During prolonged use it can be shaken for 10-15 seconds every 2 or 3 minutes giving you an unlimited supply of light.



The EverLife Flashlight requires no maintenance. You can leave it in your car, home, Boat or RV for a long time and it will still be ready to produce light when you need it. The bright LED will last for thousands of hours and provide a lifetime of service. Actually it should never need replacement.

Hear are some great features of the EverLife Flashlight:

Super bright blue/white LED
Never needs batteries
Never needs bulbs
Waterproof
Floats in water
Visible for up to one mile
Great for cars, boats, campers, and all emergency kits


tsk, tsk... :usfl:
 

vulcan

Inactive
I been buying up lots of LED penlights that work on 1 AA battery. Its a model made by Dorcy & the battery life is fantastic! It uses 3 LEDs and provides a nice amount of light. I been using one about a year and a half in my trade & put it thru some heavy use. They are durable and I change the battery every 2 months....

I have for other lighting:

-Cases of candles(dollar store)

-"shakelights" (LED flashlight that charges by shaking)

-propane lantern

-Dietz hurricane lamps

-a home lighting system based on 12v automotive LED bulb units & powered by a solar panel/battery

-Stripped down solar lawn lights (Home depot $ 4.99 ea.)

I guess I'm scared of the dark....
:D
 

LilRose8

Veteran Member
vulcan said:
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-a home lighting system based on 12v automotive LED bulb units & powered by a solar panel/battery

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:D
I am very interested in this system....do you have a link or instructions and guidance?
 
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