"Awakening" comments

Libertarian

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Jill is a prize bitch who doesn't deserve the chance she was given by fate. She enbodies the liberal mindset so well that I already dislike her.

This is a very believable scenario. I was outside of Detroit in the 68s riots. I moved to DC right afterward and saw the gutted buildings as we drove through the burned areas as my dad looked for ways to get from his office to our home in PG County. It was scary as hell and changed my love of sport shooting into a survival issue.

You've got me hooked. When will we see more of this story?
 

brake pedal

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Thanks Libertarian! i apprieciate the feed back. i have posted the rest of the book, all that was written in this issue anyway. i hope you enjoy the rest of the book as much.
 

Libertarian

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Finished it. Jill has redeemed herself somewhat. She still rubs me the wrong way though. However, it won't stop me from reading the next installment. Keep them coming! And thank you for posting it online.
 

brake pedal

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thank you for being so kind Libertarian, i needed the encouragment. i am glad you enjoyed it. i thought Jill might redeem herself somewhat. shes still a little confused but she will meet other characters who will were wronged by the previous society. she's got a lot more to learn.

i think my favorite character is ol' jim tompkins. thats a tough old man from a tough generation.

finally, i may get some breathing room here. i have decided to hand that algebra class back to them, so i can concentrate on the other classes. i found out i may be in trouble with my eng comp II class. mountians of home work and another student asked who my instructor was for that class when i told her she replied, "Oh my God, I'm so sorry." :shkr: that was no a good sign.

anyway i if i get time i will be working on the sequel. i miss my writing.

again thank you for the read and the kind remarks.
 

Libertarian

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I've known more than a few like "Jim Thompson" in my life. One of the best (and zaniest) was in the All Americans (82nd Airborne) during WWII. He is a real hoot and tough as a cheap steak. I hope that I have have half the character and spunk when I reach his age. They really were "The Great Generation"
 

timbo

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So far so good Brake Pedal.....and yeah she's a bitch but atoning for her liberal sins......over and over and over.

Good story......waiting for more.
 

Phil Ca

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Wow!!! How did you manage to get all that information in a mere dozen chapters??? I enjoyed the story although sometimes the 'credibility' factor took a beating.

When you are writing about firearms you can look on Google and find out almost anything you need regarding weight, calibers and accessories. The scene where the patrol car is wrecked and the officer is dead and Jill and Missy are taking the armaments from the trunk is a bit unbelievable. To have that amount of ammo is almost unheard of and I have driven patrol cars over a 20 plus years period of time.

The weight of the ammo would have made the recovery a daunting task. Two or three trips might have been required to get the stuff all back to the house.

The use of .30 caliber MG's went out in the early 60's I believe. I do not recall them ever being mounted on Blackhawks or Huey helicoptors. I also doubt that Missy could have learned the use of a MG in a chopper in the few hours that it took to get the chopper up ad running.

The .30 caliber MG in the second story window is a bit of a stretch. I weigh over 200 pounds and would have had a hard time dealing with the gun, tripod, and two cans of belted ammo. For Jill to pick it up and head downstairs was a bit hard to swallow. It seemed like Jill became Sgt. "Rock" in a real short time.

The fact that the trucks all seemed to have keys left about was a bit hard to understand. Also the fact that Jill was able to manhandle the palletjack with pallets of material was a stretch also. I have used both manual and battery operated pallet jacks and they take some getting used to.

The fact that the people in the story, particularly were so easy to teach tactics to was hard to believe. That Jill was a Liberal Anti-Gun person makes it even harder to deal with. The fact that she became a 'recovering liberal' was a good touch. You know the saying I am sure. A Liberal is a liberal until they are mugged or something trite like that.

The whiny people that were found that allowed themselves to become enslaved were probably better left to die of other causes. There will always be people that are to morally weak to take charge of their own situation. I have worked around 'affirmative action' types in the government workplace for to long to believe otherwise. I had a secretary once that I inherited with a promotion I got. She was lucky to know how to change the ribbon cartridge on her IBM Selectric. She was even receiving extra money for being a secretary. I finally fired her after i went through the motions of trying to save the situation. The disgusting thing was that another agency took her at a higher rate!!!

The nudity and sex factor was a bit overdone but the times require it I suppose. I am not against sex, just think it was overdone.

One other thing is this, the Spellchecker is your friend. I will be awaiting the second installment!!!

:cool:
 

brake pedal

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Thank you for the view and the review. Like I said I was looking for feedback. I am trying to do the best I can at this and that takes feed back. I went back and took a look at the points you made. I generally agree with you. I am learning to work these things out. This is my first effort. But in my defense I have to say I’ve seen plenty of mistakes and credibility beatings in professional books and movies. It’s really harder than it looks.


“Wow!!! How did you manage to get all that information in a mere dozen chapters???”

I take that to mean that the chapters were too long. I agree. They were. I am working on that point with the next one. Besides being tiring to read long chapters make it rough on revision.

“The scene where the patrol car is wrecked and the officer is dead and Jill and Missy are taking the armaments from the trunk is a bit unbelievable. To have that amount of ammo is almost unheard of and I have driven patrol cars over a 20 plus years period of time.”

I also have 20 years of experience in police/corrections. The armament in my small department would not have been a stretch. Possibly your dept forbid the use of personal weapons, while mine did not provide duty weapons we had to buy our own. Most all of us had semi-automatic rifles of some sort usually kept at home. But if the situation arose, and there was time we could swing by to pick them up or if we felt like it we could pack them in the car.
In the situation portrayed I could envision an officer swinging by his apartment and picking up the rifle and ammo. Or even carrying it routinely if allowed. And too, many departments today are issuing these types of rifles. In a hurry, I could see him picking up a case instead of juggling a load of smaller boxes.
The department issued ammo in the front floorboard. I envisioned after the officers on the bridge running out of ammo, the department called the officers in to issue extra ammo. But after looking at the text and dragging out the calculator, you’re right, that was a monstrous amount. I tried to go by cases, as if the ammo had been distributed hurriedly. But those boxes would have taken the whole floorboard.

As for the 44 under the seat, I tried to portray the officer as a civilian firearms instructor and that he had a class scheduled after his shift. And that he had intended on getting in some range time there also. Hence his personal gun under the seat, placed there at the beginning of the shift and forgotten during the riots, and the gun safety material in the trunk.

Admittedly it was all a stretch or an incredible stroke of luck for the characters. But how else are you going supply the two characters with guns, ammo and the know how to use them, quickly. I try to stay away from such things, but I saw this as the only way without these two ladies strong-arming a street thug. That also would be a stretch.

As for the ladies learning about guns and tactics, that’s why the training material and then their taking turns reading it overnight and getting to know the guns. That might not be so much of a stretch. The department I am with now, trains its new recruits to qualify in a four-hour classroom session. Most lady recruits that have never touched a gun do qualify on a police fire course, after that four hours, with a 12 ga riot, a 38 revolver and a mini-14. (yes it does get scary sometimes) :shkr:

When I have read books where the desperately needed articles seem to just miraculously appear, it makes me go “yeah right” also. In fact I regret having the characters find the underground storage area, for a couple of reasons. For the reason mentioned above and also I really don’t like stories with advanced military weapons. But my friend wanted to be a helicopter pilot. So I worked that in and I did get a little weapon hungry.

The machine gun in the helicopters was only said to be a machine gun. I don’t believe I gave it a model. And the 30-caliber machine gun was a purposeful generalization. I didn’t really know that much about the military weapons but I figured a general reference to a 30 caliber would cover a class of weapon instead of a specific one. Now looking it up, I see that I was wrong there also point well taken.

Also the carrying of the ammo from the patrol car, the carry of the machine gun and cans, and also the part where Missy jumps out of the truck with the machine gun and two belts of ammo (that’s a heavy load for a 16 year old girl) are stretches now that I look back.

The key was in the dodge yes, but like it said the managers may not have expected someone to steal it locked inside the showroom. (Convenience on my part). Jill was even surprised to find it there. But the box trucks key was in the manager’s office. Jill radioed the truck number so Missy could find it in the key box. The other semi trucks I don’t believe I said how they obtained the keys. At that point I felt the story line sagging a bit and tried to hurry it along.

The pallet jacks, yeah. I have used both kinds myself. I still bust the bottom board of the pallet. Actually IIRC the pallet jacks were only used to transfer from truck to truck. She used a forklift mainly. And I never operated one. But she did piddle with it for twenty minutes before she was soon zipping about the warehouse like a pro. Well yeah maybe not like a pro. I did learn to operate a cat rubber tired front-end loader once in a few minutes of learning. But I realize there are probably more controls to a forklift.

“ The whiny people that were found that allowed themselves to become enslaved were probably better left to die of other causes. There will always be people that are to morally weak to take charge of their own situation.”

I agree but I also feel that there may be people mixed in like Conrad and Maria that are not too weak to be rescued they just got caught with their Pants down. (No pun intended) I hoped it would also paint a picture to the DGI’s that read it what might be in store for them without the means to protect them. And how silly their arguments can seem. Of course it did prove to be fruitful. They gained Conrad and Maria and a few others. At least they did run off the ones that didn’t want to fight and only whined.

Sex and Nudity factor, I agree with you. But there are others that disagree with us. The original version was smut. I have a friend who influenced me badly. But I have had several requests for the smut version. My SIL is a Preachers wife. She said this version was too smutty, but she read every word even though I asked her to return it if she didn’t want to read it. But regardless i am toning that down also.


“ One other thing is this, the Spellchecker is your friend.”

You are not going to believe this part. Proof reading and checking spelling seems like such a simple thing. But this version has been through three different spelling and grammar checking programs, several times! I have proof read it so many times I am sick of looking at it, a friend proofed it three times. I still found spelling errors even as I posted it here. YET, there are spelling errors still. It is terribly frustrating. There are 92,000 words here, to find each error is a task. Also a word processor will leave a ward in palace (case in point) that’s misplaced or doesn’t fit as long as it matches a word in them dictionary.

Plus, And you won’t believe this but I have learned that a word processor can undo corrections as you move to other areas or upload files. I learned that when I was trying to upload the text to the publisher. That’s why they use PDF uploads. I am going to start saving and editing using PDF for the next one hopefully it will eliminate that quirk.

Again thank you for the read and the feedback. I hope you feel that I took the feedback positively. It was meant to be. I have learned from you a few things to watch for. Also, on the points that I explained, Even though I may have done such things or seen such things, other people may not have. Also I may need to put more detail into some scenes.

I hold your input in high regard, thank you for your effort.
 

Libertarian

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Phil CA, I disagree with you on one item - the .30 MG. If you recall, the M-60 is a .30 GPMG (7.62x51). It has been hung on nearly every vehicle the military has. It was "the door gun" on Hueys in Vietnam and is still used on many vehicles to this day. It is easily (wo)man portable.
 

Phil Ca

Inactive
The .30 caliber MG I was thinking about was the same as the M1 Garand in caliber and that is .30/06. Man portable yes, but 120 pound woman portable is quite a stretch, especially with two boxes of ammo and a tripod.

I used to issue out the M1919A4 model with the shoulder stock in Germany. That was quite a weapon. The BAR was easier to transport though.

I did see some of the older .30 cal MG's on Vietnamese jeeps and trucks, come to think of it.

:cool:
 

Gizmo

Inactive
The often naked women walking around was a little weird, especially at the beginning of the book. Anyone is a scary situation, not knowing when they will be attacked would want to be totally clothed, not in a disadvantaged postion.
Most folks would try to find an old burlap sack or SOMETHING to cover themselves. That was not real life. However, it does cause a certain tension to exist which is important. But, there weren't any naked men hugging each other constantly for comfort. lol:
Otherwise, it was VERY good read. Give us another one please.
 

brake pedal

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Thanks Gizmo, I am curtailing the nudity and the sex in the next one, it won't be squeaky clean but it will be, i hope a little more tastful. I am working on the next one now, in between the homework lessons. Its not going to go as fast as i had hoped, i can't type it at work anymore. but i can free hand write all i want. so its written in a composition book and then brought home to be typed.(by the way in my typing class i am at 20 words per minute, waa hoo no need for a water cooled keyboard here.) yes the previous was all hunt and peek. i hope that with the typeing class i can bore you in much greater volume!

but seriously thanks for the review. I do apprieciate it. At this stage it means a lot more than the royalties.
 

Gizmo

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Oh, don't get me wrong! The sex was good (except for the two doing it in the shelter under the bridge - that was kinda icky.) But just the folks walking around naked seemed unrealistic. Ones first instinct is too cover themselves in an unfamiliar situation. Or, maybe that is just me.
Come to think of it, if I were naked and being attacked, most people would consider me a lethal weapon and run away! :lol:
 

sssarawolf

We're just plugging along.
I did enjoy the book, thought there was to much detail on the sex scenes etc, but thats the writies licence. Talk abt CLIFF HANGER, hope theres a rest of the story :)
 

Christian for Israel

Knight of Jerusalem
a little more tasteful would be good. :lol:

i've only gotten to chapter 7 so far, but overall an excellent story. i was wondering how you were going to arm the ladies, and thought the shooting instructor idea to be a pretty good one. it was too convienient, but as you said it was a difficult problem to solve without sounding unrealistic.

as to the grammatical and spelling errors, if you'd like you can email the chapters to me and i'll proof them and send them back before you post them. i already do this to the stories i save, and i also proof a friend's work occasionally (he writes for another board). if you're interested, my email is cfi07801@yahoo.com
 

brake pedal

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I want to thank everyone for their support. I do so cherish these replies. it has given me confidence to keep trying. It makes you feel good to know that your work was enjoyed and apprieciated. Not getting the big head here, just feel humbly honored i guess.

thanks CFI i will remember the offer when i get ready to post some more. i typed another 2500 words this weekend. but i have two big tests this coming week. so its study time. Hopefully i can get more down as time goes by. i have a two week vacation at the end of the month. i hope to get some good progress then.

Thanks All!
 
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Joe America

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Brake peadal...
You sure left us with a cliff hanger!! I'm not as picky about the realistic details as some of the others seem to be. Heck after a decade of Arni films realistic details can be stretched a bit I think. You are a fine writer. Good timing , appropriate paragraph changes and such. A realistic idea line. Good characters. I was amazed that Jill and Missy could shoot so well after just picking up their weapons, but it is fiction, and most things go fine in fiction.
I can't wait for the next installment. :spns:
 

brake pedal

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Very much apprieciated there Joe, Thanks for reading it and replying.
i am working on the next one as fast as i can. next semester they are not offering much choice at school i may just take one class. and work on the book.

thanks again i will work on it as fast as i can!
 
Good Job!

I just finished "Jill's Awakening" - Bravo and a job well done, Brake Pedal!

Thank you for sharing it with us. I look forward to your future posts/continuation of this storyline. :)
 

twincougars

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I am at chapter 11 and here is what bothers me. The system of government being set up boils down to a virtual military dictatorship. There are no checks and balances; no congress. The military are also the local police. Way too much chance of abuse of power.

The nukes are not a deterrent unless the enemy knows that not only do you have them but that you can launch them, and that means a test firing. The likelyhood of even a few people in the know about the silos being able to operate the missiles and warheads is unreasonable. This is all compartmented information.

In general, way too much good luck in the story. No accidents or screwups. Too good to be true.
 
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