[ENER] Free Energy Motor Going to Mass Production

BigDog

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Free Energy Motor Going to Mass Production
Motor Can Produce 20 Kilowatts - Enough for Most Homes

There have been so many successful experiments in the field of "free energy" systems that I personally consider the principle to be proven. But what has been lacking is for a system to reach the point of mass production of devices which anyone can buy and use. Perhaps a new magnetic motor called "The Perendev Magnetic Motor" invented by Michael Brady will be such a system, for it is reported that it is entering into the first production run. Apparently the motor uses a proprietary arrangements of permanent magnets to turn a rotor, which can then power a conventional generator. The life of the magnets is said to be about 15 years.
Details can be found at the Perentech website:

http://www.perentech.com/devices/perendev/magnetic_motor/

There is even a waiting list form you can fill out to buy the Perendev Motor when they start rolling off the production line. The motor will initially be a bit expensive, 8500 Euros, but that is usually the case with a new technology, and it is stated that prices will come down once production is in full swing.

A news conference is scheduled for September and the motor will be demonstrated on German TV at that time. The motor (powering a generator) is said to produce 20 kilowatts (continuous output), which is enough for the peak requirements of most houses. At non-peak hours excess electricity can be sold back to the power grid which would, in part, offset the initial costs of buying the system.

Here is an excerpt of a news release article at:
http://pesn.com/2004/06/30/6900029PerendevPowerMagneticMotor/


Perendev is Tooling Up for Magnetic Motor Mass Production in Europe
All-magnet motor poised to be first to reach market. German manufacturer licensed to manufacture 20 kw unit for Europe and Russia. Estimated cost for first units: $8500 Euros.

by Sterling D. Allan

Copyright © 2004, all rights reserved

Pure Energy Systems News

JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA

For centuries, inventors have been claiming to come up with magnetic motor designs that use nothing more than the power of permanent magnets for the motive force; and for the same amount of time, mainstream science has responded that this is impossible. "It has been proven mathematically that no combination of permanent magnets in any arrangement will generate power." [1]

History tells us that what has been proven in many people's back yards and garages does not always coincide with mathematics of the day.

Refusing to be daunted by what he considers to be petty dogmas of academic science, inventor Michael J. Brady of Johannesburg not only claims to have produced such a device, but reports that his company, Perendev Power Developments Pty (Ltd) is now in process of manufacturing it on a large scale for markets in Europe, Russia, and Australia.

Perendev's new website was published recently at Perendev-Power.com with the assertion that they have achieved the milestone of producing "the world's first fuelless magnetic engine."

Other inventors who claim to have built working all-magnetic motors would take exception to the Perendev claim to being the first, as stated on the site. Brady mentioned that he had noticed some inaccuracies on the wording on the site and that he would be addressing them.

What is yet to be attained by anyone is a market-ready device. If Perendev continues on the track claimed on its site, it could achieve that distinction, and set the hitherto balking scientists community into motion to come up with theories of why it works.

Brady estimates that the first units will sell for around $8500 Euros, but that the price will decrease as volume sales increase...

A page about the motor says that the motor works "by focusing the magnetic field, the angles of the magnets and a special method of shielding." Also, "the motor does not require external power to start up." Brady reports that tests run have shown no diminution of magnet strength over period of motor operation, which was two months in one instance.

As the stators become engaged, the three rotors with off-set magnet alignment begin to spin. The speed is controlled by a governor. Without the speed control, the device would accelerate to destruction.

Brady also states that a 4 megawatt unit is plausible with this design, and has been rendered in conceptual blue print form.



Four Megawatts! Wow! That's like a small power plant. Such a device could revolutionize our world, in particular the third world countries which cannot afford the type of power plant which continually requires consumption of expensive fuels to create electricity. A German company, the name of which is not yet released, is now tooling up to begin mass production and has aquired the licensings rights for all of Europe and Russia. Other firms are in negotiations for licensing rights in the U. K. and Australia.

"The name of the German company will be revealed when they have finished tooling up and are ready to begin production, which Brady estimates will take place in a month or two. He said that these units will be consumer ready for application in home use, pending the stamp of approval from TUFF. Brady also plans to allow German television crews to document the device for public view.
"Twenty kilowatts is adequate to handle the peak load of most homes. Ran continuously at that rate, the excess produced during average use, which is five percent of peak use, could be sold to the grid for a quick return on investment. It will put out quite a bit more than twenty kilowatts, said Brady. 'That is what it is rated to produce continuously.'

"In May he reported to have tested the unit with a larger alternator rated at 60 kw 'with very little degrading of the motor's performance.'"


One can imagine a future scenario in which there are millions of these devices, all of them selling that 5% of power back to the power grid: an interesting scenario.

There are quite a number of magnetic energy devices in various stages of development, but the Perendev Motor appears to be the closest to starting mass production. Here is a list of magnetic devices currently in development.

http://freeenergy.greaterthings.com/Directory/MagneticMotors/

Press conference and TV demonstration coming this month, September 2004! Could it be that even as we wage wars to grab oil we stand at the brink of a revolution which will make oil unnecessary? I hope the plans for the Perendev Motor work out well because only a breakthrough in the free energy area is going to save this planet and save human civilization. In a letter on his website scientist Tom Bearden , co-inventor of the Motionless Magnetic Generator (MEG) explains why other "conventional" forms of alternate power production will not do the trick.


"The only thing I personally can do, is try to get out as much information as possible on energy from the vacuum, because systems taking their energy freely from the active vacuum are the only viable solution that could be done in time, given a significant U.S. scientific and government effort.
"As to the MEG: We are a very hard year away from being able to put devices into mass production. There are some very special areas (control of the Aharonov-Bohm effect with precision, control of nonlinear oscillations including chaotic oscillations that are typical of highly nonlinear far from equilibrium systems, etc.). That's some expensive research, with very sophisticated instruments, special techniques, and by specialists in about four different and unusual areas. When we get funding, that is exactly what we will launch into. Until then, there will be no MEGS that can be mass produced for the world market.

"There are also other systems by other inventors, that are in fact ready for pre-producing engineering right now. At least three that I'm personally aware of. But again, the U.S. scientific community is not doing anything creative and innovative in energy; simply go check out the NAS, NAE, NSF, DoE, national laboratory, and university websites. The only thing - energy from the vacuum, cheaply and plentifully - that could save us when the centralized grid gets destroyed, is also the only thing NOT being worked on by our scientific community."



That someone has managed to get this close to actual mass production is something astounding, given the active attempts by the oil companies and energy cartels to suppress such technologies. Of course, it is happening outside the United States, and Tom Bearden's MEG will be produced outside the U.S. since he has stated flatly that it is absolutely impossible to develop free energy in the U.S. at this time. One must go to a country where there is more freedom! Just consider that we have a president and vice president who are oilmen themselves! America has given so many new technologies to the world in the past, the automobile, the airplane, the light bulb, but in the case of free energy American Corporations prevent serious work or research in this area to protect the status quo of their profits.
There is no question that the first step in this new direction will be to vote the oil companies out of office. And we must pass new laws to prevent the kind of corporate takeover of government that we are witnessing now in the Bush administration. The energy policy of America has degenerated into this: steal oil.

Here are some related web pages:

Perendev-Power.com - Perendev's official website.
PerenTech - in process of finalizing licensing for North America
Pure Energy Systems News

Perentech Page
http://www.perentech.com/devices/perendev/magnetic_motor/

Perendev Wait List Sign Up
http://www.perentech.com/order/index.html
 

HeliumAvid

Too Tired to ReTire
hmmm.... wonder how much power (from the mains) is required to "generate" that 20KW? 40KW? Lets just say I am skeptical ;)

Edited to add:

I guess my first big question is if it generated 20KW (which is a fair amount of power, over 20hp) if it starts on its own with no power required, how do you assembal it? :lol:

I think I will what for the second generation of these things before plunking out 8500 Euros... Come to think of it you cant buy a 20Kw Generator for that price, way to good to be true :shr:

Helium
MSEE
 

RC

Inactive
I would be even more skeptical when they ask you to send money for the shipping and handling or whatever for the beta test.
 

gdpetti

Inactive
Hard to believe someone has been allowed to actually go public and into production.
Not hard to see why it's done offshore....I wonder who's protecting him...has to be a good sized government...France or Germany? If this guy is allowed to break the silence publicly then the floodgates will open....

....and then there was silence as all saw the emperor had no clothes.
 

lars

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Next big thing: <a href="http://www.antigravity.org/BigSpinModelOfGravity.html">Antigravity</a>
 

troglodyte

Inactive
If it allegedly generates electricity, why is it called a MOTOR?? Motors take power.

The picture on the web site isn't even real, just a computer simulation.

:sb:

:sht:
 

Hokey

Veteran Member
My momma once told me 'Son, nothing in life is free', or was that my dad?

I've come up with my own grand scheme. Selling invisible chia pets over the internet for only $12.99 plus shipping. They come in five colours, but of course you can't see 'em so you'll never know what colour you actually get (hell, how would I know which one I sent?).
 

ainitfunny

Saved, to glorify God.
It absolutely AMAZES me to hear supposedly intelligent people say things like there is no such thing as free energy or no such thing as miracles.

It appears to me that people are conditioned to recognize and dismiss the familiar and expected as not miraculous and to look about themselves without actually observing and SEEING what is there. Because your miracles are served up to you non-stop, you not only take them for granted, but regard them as common and hold them in contempt rather than awe. Because you are not only literally immersed in a myriad of diverse energy sources, transformations and differentials, you no longer recognize the potential of what is so ubiquitously familiar.

That there is NO FREE ENERGY is the mantra (and brainwash doctrine for sheeple) from those who milk the herd making their limitless riches controlling access, availability, amount of power, and price that will be paid for it to them by the sheeple. There is NO DESIRE or interest by those powers that be to allow citizens of any nation to secure free energy OF ANY SORT. It is a direct attack and threat to their power, control and limitless income and anyone succeeding in such efforts to harvest the boundless free energy that surround us would certainly be wise to literally suddenly, simultaneously, world wide, bestow it free on mankind, by distributing(and hide or secret) hundreds if not thousands of copies of his invention or device to every kind of group and publisher in hope of saving not only his invention, but his very life.

Imagine harnessing the energy a Hurricane like Frances brings to the coast of America. Imagine capturing the energy of lightning. We have already developed but hesitate employing electricity generators powered by the relentless ocean waves that pound our shores.
 

Aaron Whitelaw

Membership Revoked
My Father did some research on this subject. Do a Google search on Dennis Lee. Draw your own conclusions. Blessings, Aaron Whitelaw
 

A.T.Hagan

Inactive
As it ever has been the proof of the pudding is in the eating.

The proof of this new technology is in the demonstration.

Let's see this thing work - live - where we can examine it.

Otherwise it's just a shuck and jive show.

.....Alan.
 

old bear

Deceased
It was not all that long ago that it was "common knowledge" that passenger trains could not go faster than 50 mph, or all of the air would be sucked out of the windows and the people would die. It was not that long ago that producing electric power directly form the sun's rays was thought impossible. Every break through is "Impossible" to some people, until their neighbors have it.
This is not a "Infinity" power source. The magnets wear out in 15 years. It also does not, the way I read it, include the generator. They do mention that a smaller unit may be in the works. NO. I won't be plunking my money down just yet, but if the price drops enough who knows. I might be more willing to invest in steam power in our situation. A good quality steam engine would last for more than 15 years.
 

WFK

Senior Something
When two people on this thread give an opinion, and one backs it up like this:
It is a direct attack and threat to their power, control and limitless income and anyone succeeding in such efforts to harvest the boundless free energy that surround us would certainly be wise to literally suddenly, simultaneously, world wide, bestow it free on mankind, by distributing(and hide or secret) hundreds if not thousands of copies of his invention or device to every kind of group and publisher in hope of saving not only his invention, but his very life.
and the other backs it up like this:
then I take the short one because I know what it means.
 
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troglodyte

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ainitfunny said:
It absolutely AMAZES me to hear supposedly intelligent people say things like there is no such thing as free energy or no such thing as miracles.
.

I can't speak for any other skeptics, but I would say no such thing. I very much do believe there is "free" (well, "really cheap" is more accurate as you have to use resources to build and maintain a device) energy and that TPTB are suppressing numerous such technologies. This "motor" device, however, is most certainly a scam, at least until they PROVE otherwise. Since the proof is pretty simple to pull off, much simpler than actually developing a free energy device, not having proof is inexcusable and is proof enough that it is a scam.
 
Hokey said:
My momma once told me 'Son, nothing in life is free', or was that my dad?

I've come up with my own grand scheme. Selling invisible chia pets over the internet for only $12.99 plus shipping. They come in five colours, but of course you can't see 'em so you'll never know what colour you actually get (hell, how would I know which one I sent?).

I'd like a red one for my daughter. How much is shipping? :lol:
 

Kronos

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gdpetti said:
Not hard to see why it's done offshore....I wonder who's protecting him...has to be a good sized government...France or Germany? If this guy is allowed to break the silence publicly then the floodgates will open....

....and then there was silence as all saw the emperor had no clothes.
Well, if it *is* real, that fact would avail him not in the U.S., as the Patent Office *will not* issue a patent for such an invention. [I think it comes under Perpetual Motion]

I seem to remember, a couple of years ago, hearing about this, and that there was at least one wealthy individual interested in backing him.

For myself, I don't find it difficult to imagine getting more out of magnetism (or gravity, for that matter) than is put in -- a matter of not 'seeing' all the components of the equation. Something extra-dimensional, maybe?
 

Oilpatch Hand

3-Bomb General, TB2K Army
Well, if it *is* real, that fact would avail him not in the U.S., as the Patent Office *will not* issue a patent for such an invention. (I think it comes under Perpetual Motion)

Yes, it probably does, which means, if I remember correctly, that the PTO will only consider issuance of a patent if a working model of the device is submitted along with the patent application.

And there's the rub. Some "perpetual motion machines" can work on paper, but none (so far) have managed to do so in real life. I don't think this device will be any different. There was a Japanese contender in this field a few years ago. It didn't work, either.

But, let's assume that this "motor" (why isn't it a "generator," anyway?) actually works and goes into production. Then, it will be about 8 hours before the guy who purchased the first one reverse-engineers the thing, and starts producing his own to compete with those of the inventor. The inventor might find that to be a problem, which is why he should seek patent protection.

Oh, but there's that "perpetual motion machine-working model" requirement, again.

Wait...wait...I know! Let the inventor send the first production model to the PTO along with his application. That will serve to protect his legitimate interests...unless, of course, the whole thing is one big, freaking scam. :lol:
 

troglodyte

Inactive
Sure, they can patent it. The trick is to not make a claim it puts out more energy than it takes in, and otherwise be very vague and confusing throughout the patent. Claim it is just another interesting design for a "motor". The MEG patent did something like that, even though it is a complete scam too.
 

Kronos

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Re: this being lumped in with Perpetual Motion in Patent Office opinion:

Oilpatch Hand said:
Yes, it probably does, which means, if I remember correctly, that the PTO will only consider issuance of a patent if a working model of the device is submitted along with the patent application.

And there's the rub.
Nope. A working model is the *norm* for any patent.

For certain inventions, however (as you say, the getting-more-out-than-putting-in sort), a patent will *not* be entertained.
I suppose this means, that any supposed working model will not be considered, looked at nor evaluated.

Really.

One of those legal absolutes.

These days, what with patents being so less protective (limited), maybe it's a GOOD thing, for this and similarly cutting-edge breakthroughs.

Who was it said:

> "Any technology, sufficiently advanced, is indistinguishable from 'Magic'"

? [I'm thinking: Arthur C. Clarke, or mayve, Asimov?]

Just TRY to patent anything "magical". :p

...

then there's always:

> "what the mind can conceive, man can achieve" [or some suchlike]

Don't Worry, Be Happy! :)
 

Trivium Pursuit

Has No Life - Lives on TB
1. This sounds at least tangentially like the motor(excuse me, device) some Japanese fellow recently invented. It was covered here. IIRC, some Japanese convenience store chain was going to buy 40,000 small ones to power fans in their stores. Also IIRC they said at a larger size, enough torque develops that it could run a car.

2. Seems I have read that at the subatomic level, particles of some sort do pop into being from...somewhere, and that if this can be harnessed, it effectively looks like 'free energy'. Anyone else have more info on that?
 

Kronos

Inactive
Ah, some more thoughts.

1: Perpetual Motion has the difficulty of discerning the truth of it,
as one would have to monitor it in perpetuity to discover whether it is in fact perpetual. :p

In the present case, they mention that the magnets wear out after awhile, and so this is not a claim for 'perpetual'.
["The life of the magnets is said to be about 15 years."]

2: I don't think that the Patent Office will EVEN CONSIDER a patent submission on inventions such as this.
I believe this guy TRIED (if it's the same one from year or so ago), so... There's the Rub.

Yes, reverse-engineering is the bane of ALL modern-day INDEPENDENT INVENTORS.
It will be interesting to see how these folks protect their creation from Knock-Off Chinamart 'competition'.

3: Magnetism has long fascinated me. Sunspots, too. :shd: But as for magnetism, it is easy for me to imagine that the effect we see,
is similar to the induced current in a wire crossing a magnetic field, only the 'drag' takes place extra-dimensionally.

(you thought I were jesting with that, no?)

Ever read Flatland: 'A Romance of Many Dimensions', by Edwin A Abbott?

4: The truth of any scientific model, is that it *is* only a model, to explain observed effects.

These guys may not understand *how* the thing works, and their explanation may not be accurate, but so what with that so long as it *does* work?

5: What would life or existence be worth, if *everything* were known formula? :zzz:

I for one, am glad for Mystery and Magic, keeps things interesting. :D

YMMV

Trivium: If I recall, quantum chromodynamics (the grand world of quarks) specifies that some 'bonds' are SO tight, that the energy needed to break the bond, thus separating the particles and allowing them to be observed=proven to exist, is GREATER than the energy needed to Spontaneously Create a whole new (and tightly-bonded) pair-thingie. Convenient.

Were they talking about Quarks? [ quark + anti-quark held tightly togethor by, ahem, GLUONS :p ]
 

AusieGrandad

Inactive
I smell a rat.

The rats are easy to find they always ask for cash in advance of a delivery that never comes.

There is always a bit more research/ refinement required. A bit more cash required for that last bit . Just like the steam powered car.
 
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