Mother Earth News Archives

[jed turtle]

yep, right out here on the net. Wow!

http://www.motherearthnews.com/archive/index.html#13

my thanks to Brodyaga at FalloutShelter forum ( http://falloutshelter653.org/forums/survival/index.php) for locating this bonanza.

this was always one of my favorite articles:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/archi...013-066-01.htm
GIMME SHELTER
... FOR UNDER $10.00!
TOM STORY

[Onebyone]

Thanks Jed, very interesting. Will read more on the site tomorrow.

That shelter is like ferro cement with burlap instead of chicken wire. Wonder how long it took to build.

[Synap]

Thank you thank you thank you!

I ate the whole thing (burp!)

Now to see if they've got issues 82 thru 169 squirreled away somewhere, and I'll be a happy puppy.

[chairborne commando]

What an outstanding site! Thanks for posting! Boy, do I miss
that magazine.

[jed turtle]

you are very welcome! gee there are only three here that recognize the significance of this resource? oh well, bump for the morning crowd.

[A.T.Hagan]

This is an interesting resource, particularly since they have the graphics included along with the article text.

I've got virtually the complete file of MEN from issue #1 up through 100 plus something, but it's nice to be able to find at least some of them on the web too.

Thanks for posting it.

.....Alan.

[NoName]

Wow, where's my bell bottoms and tie dyes...can't wait to dig into this. Thanks!!!

[potemkin]

Originally posted by jed turtle
you are very welcome! gee there are only three here that recognize the significance of this resource? oh well, bump for the morning crowd.

No, some of us have to sleep.

Firing up "Black Widow" auto downloader right now sucking them all down in one pass.

[A.T.Hagan]

I always did like Jack Vaughn

<img src=http://www.motherearthnews.com/archive/issues/081/081_images/081-187-01_01.jpg>

.....Alan.

[stillprepping]

WOWWW!!!! thanks! and now ... a TIP for everyone.

since no one knows how long a site like this could be on the net, it would be most useful to have the site right on our computers, right? i mean, this site is INVALUABLE!

using a program called teleport pro ($39.95), one can make a browsable copy of an entire site on your machine, with all directories, subdirectories, etc. this program is positively awesome.

go here to download .. www.tenmax.com

a trial version is available that will permit up to 500 files to be d/l before it stops. after one registers, one can 'come back' and d/l the rest later.

[Sara Brimmer]

Thank you, thank you!

[old bear]

Thanks for the link. I guess not enough people were around back in the 1970's and the "back to the land" movement. Time to heat up the old printer.

[Burntfish]

The old issues of TMEN are the best! Every now and then I will purchase a current issue. If they ever get back to the basics I may consider a subscription again. I subscribe to Countryside which is a lot like what TMEN used to be.

Organic Gardening is almost usless now. Does anyone know of a good gardening mag that has a lot of practical, useful info. OG is mostly ads and their articles tend to be very simplistic.

[GrayBear]

Lordy, that kept me up late!

Thanks a lot!

GrayBear

[alchemike]

thanks alot...

o)<

mike

[potemkin]

Originally posted by Burntfish
The old issues of TMEN are the best! Every now and then I will purchase a current issue. If they ever get back to the basics I may consider a subscription again. I subscribe to Countryside which is a lot like what TMEN used to be.

It was good. About 10 years ago it went mainstream and all of the articles went to pot.

I guess it started when they tooks the ads for the gas power equipment.

The original authors must have been rolling in their graves.

I used Black Widow (similar to Teleport Pro) to suck them all down. (Uses multiple threading, 32 I think, at the same time).

It makes it easier to "browse" if it is on your hard drive.

Of course some are just fluff, so only the prep and homestead ones will be printed and put in a binder.

I will put them all of CD-Rom for my personal use and refer to it using my notebook computer and solar panel i I need to.

[Amazed]

Well, I got lost there for a couple of hours! Tried to find the issue where the plans for my solar house came from. Unsuccessfull. Must be one of the missing issues.

Thanks so much. This is great!

[Synap]

I had every copy from #1 up til 1985. When I went on the road, I left them with my Dad for safekeeping. He gave them away. He came very close to not being forgiven for that..very close. But then I realized that getting old don't usually get us less stupid, we just get better at it.

This find is surely a gift. Thanx again.

...finally suspended the Webdown at 4AM..resumed now for the last of the graphics parts. hehe..TMEN's bandwidth sucks this morning.

[Little Pig]

My father used to be an Editor for MEN. He and Mort supposedly wrote the only useful material in the magazine before it got bought out. (or so he says, anyway )

[deja]

Gee, A.T., and I thought I was the only person with a whole set of TMEN complete & up to the Index. I quit buying (because of content) toward the end where they made the actual index. Had to fill in missing issues, but GOT EM ALL.

Glad to see the site has em too tho.

Potemkin, do you have a link to Black Widow or Teleport Pro? Just curious & I have started searching for info, but haven't had luck yet. I'd appreciate it.

[oops]

thanks for the links, jed...

you must have known I'd have more time to read next wk...

oops

if I don't do anything stupid (like live up to my name) that is...

[Roadkill]

Stripped & burned!

Thanks!

[Deena in GA]

Great site! I, too, have all the old issues of MEN until shortly after it went yuppie. Now I buy an issue at BAM if it has something interesting in it. The last issue had a letter and picture of a friend of mine in it.

We even went to the MEN's Eco-Village on vacation back in '84. It was a great experience!

[A.T.Hagan]

Originally posted by deja
Gee, A.T., and I thought I was the only person with a whole set of TMEN complete & up to the Index. I quit buying (because of content) toward the end where they made the actual index. Had to fill in missing issues, but GOT EM ALL.

Glad to see the site has em too tho.

Potemkin, do you have a link to Black Widow or Teleport Pro? Just curious & I have started searching for info, but haven't had luck yet. I'd appreciate it.

It took me years to put my collection together. I don't recall where I stopped with it, but it was sometime in the mid-eighties as I recall when they really started going downhill. When the Shuttleworths sold out the soul of the magazine went out of it.

Never agreed with all of their politics, but they most always had good stuff.

.....Alan.

[potemkin]

Originally posted by deja
Potemkin, do you have a link to Black Widow or Teleport Pro? Just curious & I have started searching for info, but haven't had luck yet. I'd appreciate it.

Black Widow is avalable at http://softbytelabs.com Son't know about Teleport.

Here is a good reason I have always owned a truck: http://www.motherearthnews.com/archi...032-024-01.htm

When ever things get real bad I can always haul trash, carry lawn mowers, etc.

[stillprepping]

the link to teleport is (again): www.tenmax.com

fyiw .. tmen site was 261 mb to d/l

[juco]

What a find! Thanks for posting the link. I'm going to be there a loooong time!

[Todd]

Well, I just checked the "stacks" and we're good from issue 1 through 83 (1983) when we too gave up over the yuppieness.

What's interesting is that I just refered to MEN on my "wood gas" thread: wood gas

Check out those old MEN articles on wood gas!

Todd

[Synap]

FWIW: SiteSnager is a free app from PC Magazine. No adware or trackers. See it here.

It's pretty basic compared to the $30 apps, but will do the job for sites like TMEN's index. Allows # level of links to snag (2 in this case), whether to include graphics, and whether to follow offsite links (usually ads). Can convert the download for local browsing or leave intact for users archiving websites. Does not work for sites that use jscripts or CGI for link navigation. It just ignores scripts.

BTW, if ya choose not to snag the graphics, you can reduce the download/save size of your TMEN local archive by around 80%. Most of that 200mb+ size is graphics, and IMO, are not necessary for most of the articles. You could go back later and DL just those needed (like charts and diagrams) and put 'em in the archive folders manually if ya want.

[Jazmine]

THank you thank you thank you


I haven't seen one of these since the 70's. I haven't gone to the site yet cause I wanted to thank you thank you thank you.

I remember something about a story of a dragon(? ) that was carried through the pages of the issue.

Am I dreaming?

Thank you
Jazmine

[deja]

Potemkin & SP, thanks for both of those links.

[potemkin]

Originally posted by Todd
Well, I just checked the "stacks" and we're good from issue 1 through 83 (1983) when we too gave up over the yuppieness.

Kind of like the Foxfire series. Excellent books but got wacked about issue 6-8.

Initial ones were talking to old people how to build things like cabins, wagon wheels, washing clothes in a pot, making applesauce, etc.

After that, weired things like ghosts, boogar men, and other cr@p.

[timbo]

Thanks Jed...........Whoof..........A lotta stuff.

[Vicki]

WOW! Bless you Jed!

Vicki

[Trasael Adnepos]

Still have my favorite issues of MEN from the 70's.
Seeing the post conjured images of burned-out fat wrinkled hippies soaking in a hot tub made from a cement septic tank with a wood-fired water heater that used to be a 50 gallon drum, in a sheet plastic atrium full of Mexican closet tomato plants, scabbed on to a metal skin single-wide.

Tras

[jed turtle]

Jazmine- "I remember something about a story of a dragon(? ) that was carried through the pages of the issue. "

that was from the Last Whole Earth Catalogue.

this was my only published piece ever:
http://www.motherearthnews.com/archi...035-064-01.htm

what a drive down memory lane. and like classic Beatles songs, these magazines will always help to satisfy the soul seeking a way to simply connect with the Earth and the Universe

[Jazmine]

Thanks Jed, That is all I can remember about it. It seems like a travelling (?) dragon with adventures comparable to Cheech and Chong. OK, I may be dreaming again or adlibing about it.

Hey, did you ever get pictures of the place in Maine and of the devices you built?

Very interesting article. Thanks

Jazmine

[Walrus Whisperer]

Whoo-hooo! I discovered that Adobe Acrobat will download stuff just like the other programs can. You can pick what to save it as and it catagorizes the thing and everything! It took 14 hours to get it(Mother Earth News Site) with a modem, about 15 minutes to saveas (remember to do this when Adobe is done or you may end up with something messed up) and 5 minutes to quit out of the blasted thing. That sucker is 263 MG. I was afraid it would blow up while I was doing the save but it didnt.
FYI: In full version Adobe Acrobat, go to File, open web page. type in the URL of what web page you want(have to be connected to internet) and pick or unpick what you want and voila'. I did discover that having headers and footers in was very messy looking and they are not needed. You might try it first on something small so you know what you will get when you have certains things picked or unpicked.
There were some errors which you get a list of at the very end of the download. some of their page links are not there or labeled wrong so the page wont come up.
What a find!
Thank you, Jed Turtle. I'll be burning that baby on some cds tonight....

[cooter]

did they take down that site,,been slowly pulling the articles off, and now its gone,,,great,,,

well did anyone get the whole thing before it dissappeared,,PM me if you would,,

[potemkin]

Originally posted by cooter
did they take down that site,,been slowly pulling the articles off, and now its gone,,,great,,,

well did anyone get the whole thing before it dissappeared,,PM me if you would,,

Can you imagine the number of people hitting the website? How many passed it along to friends or other boards.

How many used something like BlackWidow to suck it all down or home many just used the "right mouse click, save target as".

The CD-Rom burners were probably working overtime that one. Easy as it almost filled one CD-Rom.

Good rule of the web is "Grab it when you can". You never know when the site will go away or get shut down because of excessive bandwidth usage. (My guess this is why TMEN archives are gone.)