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Health Care Passes the House
Breaking News Alert
The New York Times Sat, November 07, 2009 -- 11:15 PM ET ----- Sweeping Health Care Overhaul Passes the House, 220-215 The House on Saturday narrowly approved a sweeping overhaul of the nation's health care system, handing President Obama a hard-fought victory and advancing legislation Democrats said could equal Social Security and Medicare as a social policy achievement. After a daylong clash with Republicans over a proposal that has been a Democratic goal for years, lawmakers voted 220 to 215 to approve the $1.1 trillion, 10-year-plan that Democrats said would provide relief to Americans struggling to buy or hold on to health insurance in light of escalating costs and industry practices. Read More: http://www.nytimes.com?emc=na  
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11-07-2009, 10:45 PM
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They are standing in front of a George Washington Painting now, giving speeches, and Nancy drooled over that ONE Lousianna REPUBLICAN VOTE for ObamaCare, as she Calls it a BiPartisan vote, and legally it now is. Waxman said something about Prisoners, and how this Obamacare will now give them a chance to get out of jail and not face persecution upon release??? Did ANYONE catch the exact Waxman quote......In 2000 pages that NOBODY read, I am certain there is something that deals with prisoner parole and release.  They just murdered my country!
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I have recently learned that I have a rare eye condition for which I will HAVE to have corneal transplant surgery.
Now, because of this legislation (in which they will SURELY try to restrict me from being eligible to even HAVE the surgery, because I am over 50 years old), and because my husband got laid off this week, we are having to HURRY and get the transplant done, NOW, this month, before his health insurance runs out (though Cobra could have extended it for months)--but we don't dare wait that long, because once Obamacare sets in they WILL NOT consent to an "old" lady like me having the surgery. Even though I am actively and gainfully working in education every day. Health-care rationing, here we come! 
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Actually I prayed: Forgive them Father for doing what they are doing seeking an agenda of full power over the citizens of this Nation, and doing so with full knowledge of the outcome.
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11-07-2009, 11:51 PM
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remanant of the old republic:
(fair use applies, from the NYT, MODS please delete my post if this steps on any "legal toes". TNX) No Votes (215) Member Party Dist. Robert B. Aderholt R AL-4 Todd Akin R MO-2 Rodney Alexander R LA-5 Jason Altmire D PA-4 John Adler D NJ-3 Steve Austria R OH-7 Spencer Bachus R AL-6 Roscoe G. Bartlett R MD-6 Joe L. Barton R TX-6 Brian P. Bilbray R CA-50 Roy Blunt R MO-7 John A. Boehner R OH-8 Rick Boucher D VA-9 Allen Boyd D FL-2 Kevin Brady R TX-8 Dan Burton R IN-5 Steve Buyer R IN-4 Mary Bono Mack R CA-45 Brian Baird D WA-3 Judy Biggert R IL-13 Henry E. Brown Jr. R SC-1 John Boozman R AR-3 J. Gresham Barrett R SC-3 Marsha Blackburn R TN-7 Jo Bonner R AL-1 Ginny Brown-Waite R FL-5 Michael C. Burgess R TX-26 Rob Bishop R UT-1 John Barrow D GA-12 Dan Boren D OK-2 Charles Boustany Jr. R LA-7 Michele Bachmann R MN-6 Gus Bilirakis R FL-9 Vern Buchanan R FL-13 Paul Broun R GA-10 John Boccieri D OH-16 Bobby Bright D AL-2 Ken Calvert R CA-44 Dave Camp R MI-4 Michael N. Castle R DE-1 Howard Coble R NC-6 Ander Crenshaw R FL-4 Eric Cantor R VA-7 Shelley Moore Capito R WV-2 John Culberson R TX-7 John Carter R TX-31 Tom Cole R OK-4 Ben Chandler D KY-6 K. Michael Conaway R TX-11 John Campbell R CA-48 Travis Childers D MS-1 Bill Cassidy R LA-6 Jason Chaffetz R UT-3 Mike Coffman R CO-6 Nathan Deal R GA-9 Lincoln Diaz-Balart R FL-21 David Dreier R CA-26 John J. Duncan Jr. R TN-2 Lincoln Davis D TN-4 Mario Diaz-Balart R FL-25 Artur Davis D AL-7 Geoff Davis R KY-4 Charlie Dent R PA-15 Chet Edwards D TX-17 Vernon J. Ehlers R MI-3 Jo Ann Emerson R MO-8 Rodney Frelinghuysen R NJ-11 Jeff Flake R AZ-6 J. Randy Forbes R VA-4 Trent Franks R AZ-2 Jeff Fortenberry R NE-1 Virginia Foxx R NC-5 Mary Fallin R OK-5 John Fleming R LA-4 Elton Gallegly R CA-24 Robert W. Goodlatte R VA-6 Bart Gordon D TN-6 Kay Granger R TX-12 Sam Graves R MO-6 Scott Garrett R NJ-5 Jim Gerlach R PA-6 Phil Gingrey R GA-11 Louie Gohmert R TX-1 Parker Griffith D AL-5 Brett Guthrie R KY-2 Ralph M. Hall R TX-4 Doc Hastings R WA-4 Wally Herger R CA-2 Peter Hoekstra R MI-2 Tim Holden D PA-17 Jeb Hensarling R TX-5 Stephanie Herseth Sandlin D SD-1 Dean Heller R NV-2 Gregg Harper R MS-3 Duncan D. Hunter R CA-52 Bob Inglis R SC-4 Darrell Issa R CA-49 Sam Johnson R TX-3 Walter B. Jones R NC-3 Timothy V. Johnson R IL-15 Jim Jordan R OH-4 Lynn Jenkins R KS-2 Peter T. King R NY-3 Jack Kingston R GA-1 Dennis J. Kucinich D OH-10 Mark Steven Kirk R IL-10 Steve King R IA-5 John Kline R MN-2 Larry Kissell D NC-8 Suzanne Kosmas D FL-24 Frank Kratovil Jr. D MD-1 Tom Latham R IA-4 Jerry Lewis R CA-41 John Linder R GA-7 Frank D. Lucas R OK-3 Dan Lungren R CA-3 Steven C. LaTourette R OH-14 Frank A. LoBiondo R NJ-2 Doug Lamborn R CO-5 Robert E. Latta R OH-5 Leonard Lance R NJ-7 Christopher Lee R NY-26 Blaine Luetkemeyer R MO-9 Cynthia M. Lummis R WY-1 Mike McIntyre D NC-7 Howard P. McKeon R CA-25 John L. Mica R FL-7 Jerry Moran R KS-1 Sue Myrick R NC-9 Donald Manzullo R IL-16 Gary G. Miller R CA-42 Jim Matheson D UT-2 Jeff Miller R FL-1 Jim Marshall D GA-8 Thaddeus McCotter R MI-11 Candice S. Miller R MI-10 Tim Murphy R PA-18 Connie Mack R FL-14 Patrick T. McHenry R NC-10 Michael McCaul R TX-10 Kenny Marchant R TX-24 Cathy McMorris Rodgers R WA-5 Charlie Melancon D LA-3 Kevin McCarthy R CA-22 Betsy Markey D CO-4 Eric Massa D NY-29 Michael E. McMahon D NY-13 Walt Minnick D ID-1 Tom McClintock R CA-4 Scott Murphy D NY-20 Devin Nunes R CA-21 Randy Neugebauer R TX-19 Glenn Nye D VA-2 Pete Olson R TX-22 Collin C. Peterson D MN-7 Tom Petri R WI-6 Joe Pitts R PA-16 Ron Paul R TX-14 Todd R. Platts R PA-19 Adam H. Putnam R FL-12 Mike Pence R IN-6 Tom Price R GA-6 Ted Poe R TX-2 Erik Paulsen R MN-3 Bill Posey R FL-15 George P. Radanovich R CA-19 Harold Rogers R KY-5 Dana Rohrabacher R CA-46 Ileana Ros-Lehtinen R FL-18 Ed Royce R CA-40 Paul D. Ryan R WI-1 Denny Rehberg R MT-1 Mike Rogers R MI-8 Mike Ross D AR-4 Mike D. Rogers R AL-3 Dave Reichert R WA-8 Peter Roskam R IL-6 Phil Roe R TN-1 Tom Rooney R FL-16 F. James Sensenbrenner R WI-5 Pete Sessions R TX-32 John Shadegg R AZ-3 John Shimkus R IL-19 Ike Skelton D MO-4 Christopher H. Smith R NJ-4 Lamar Smith R TX-21 Cliff Stearns R FL-6 Mark Souder R IN-3 Mike Simpson R ID-2 Bill Shuster R PA-9 John Sullivan R OK-1 Jean Schmidt R OH-2 Heath Shuler D NC-11 Adrian Smith R NE-3 Steve Scalise R LA-1 Aaron Schock R IL-18 John Tanner D TN-8 Gene Taylor D MS-4 William M. Thornberry R TX-13 Todd Tiahrt R KS-4 Lee Terry R NE-2 Pat Tiberi R OH-12 Michael R. Turner R OH-3 Harry Teague D NM-2 Glenn Thompson R PA-5 Fred Upton R MI-6 Zach Wamp R TN-3 Edward Whitfield R KY-1 Frank R. Wolf R VA-10 Greg Walden R OR-2 Joe Wilson R SC-2 Lynn Westmoreland R GA-3 Robert J. Wittman R VA-1 C. W. Bill Young R FL-10 Don Young R AK-1 Did Not Vote (0) Member Party Dist. Present (0) Member Party Dist. Sources: U.S. House of Representatives, U.S. Senate, Library of Congress Credits: Derek Willis, Stephan Weitberg, Shan Carter, and Matthew Bloch/The New York Times Home World
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11-07-2009, 11:52 PM
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I heard a lot of the speeches back and forth this afternoon and evening as I was driving back from Matador. It is a train that cannot be stopped. What got us where we are today is that the GOP supports bidness and industry, free market capitolism. The huge insurance industry has been running rough shod over us forever, getting stronger, bolder, and more cruel all the time. Rather than deal with that while the GOP was in power, they let it go unchecked.
The leading cause of bankruptcy is due to medical expenses, so we should have figured out that things couldn't go on like that forever. But, the GOP remained silent. So the people voted for change. I believe that the Republican Party is coming back to our original precepts, but it is too little, too late. I am grateful that the anti-abortion ammendment passed.
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11-07-2009, 11:55 PM
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(sorry for the long list, all I did was copy and paste unedited)
...and the list of traitors: House Vote 887 - H.R.3962: On Passage Affordable Health Care for America Act On Passage To provide affordable, quality health care for all Americans and reduce the growth in health care spending, and for other purposes. Full text of the bill ¬Ş Sponsor: John D. Dingell Introduced: October 29, 2009 Passed House: – Passed Senate: – Considered by President: – Became Law: – Other Recent Votes November 7, 2009 H.RES.895: On Motion to Suspend the Rules and Agree. Honoring the lives of the brave soldiers and civilians of the United States ... November 7, 2009 H.R.3962: On Passage. Affordable Health Care for America Act November 7, 2009 H.R.3962: On Motion to Recommit with Instructions. Affordable Health Care for America Act November 7, 2009 H.R.3962: On Agreeing to the Amendment. Boehner of Ohio Substitute Amendment November 7, 2009 H.R.3962: On Agreeing to the Amendment. Stupak of Michigan Amendment You need the latest version of Flash Plugin to view this graphic. Result: Passed by 5 votes Date of Vote: November 7, 2009 Roll Call Number: 887 Related Story: Sweeping Health Care Plan Passes House Bill Details ¬Ş Geography of the Vote You need the latest version of Flash Plugin to view this graphic. Complete Roll Call All States Alabama Alaska Arizona Arkansas California Colorado Connecticut Delaware Florida Georgia Hawaii Idaho Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Montana Nebraska Nevada New Hampshire New Jersey New Mexico New York North Carolina North Dakota Ohio Oklahoma Oregon Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina South Dakota Tennessee Texas Utah Vermont Virginia Washington West Virginia Wisconsin Wyoming Yes Votes (220) Member Party Dist. Neil Abercrombie D HI-1 Gary L. Ackerman D NY-5 Robert E. Andrews D NJ-1 Michael Arcuri D NY-24 Xavier Becerra D CA-31 Howard L. Berman D CA-28 Marion Berry D AR-1 Sanford D. Bishop Jr. D GA-2 Earl Blumenauer D OR-3 Leonard L. Boswell D IA-3 Corrine Brown D FL-3 Robert A. Brady D PA-1 Tammy Baldwin D WI-2 Shelley Berkley D NV-1 Joe Baca D CA-43 Timothy H. Bishop D NY-1 G. K. Butterfield D NC-1 Melissa Bean D IL-8 Bruce Braley D IA-1 James E. Clyburn D SC-6 John Conyers Jr. D MI-14 Jim Cooper D TN-5 Jerry F. Costello D IL-12 Elijah E. Cummings D MD-7 Lois Capps D CA-23 Michael E. Capuano D MA-8 Joseph Crowley D NY-7 William Lacy Clay D MO-1 Dennis Cardoza D CA-18 Jim Costa D CA-20 Russ Carnahan D MO-3 Emanuel Cleaver II D MO-5 Henry Cuellar D TX-28 Christopher Carney D PA-10 Kathy Castor D FL-11 Yvette Clarke D NY-11 Steve Cohen D TN-9 Joe Courtney D CT-2 Andr*© Carson D IN-7 Gerald E. Connolly D VA-11 Anh Cao R LA-2 Judy Chu D CA-32 Danny K. Davis D IL-7 Peter A. DeFazio D OR-4 Diana DeGette D CO-1 Bill Delahunt D MA-10 Rosa DeLauro D CT-3 Norman D. Dicks D WA-6 John D. Dingell D MI-15 Lloyd Doggett D TX-25 Mike Doyle D PA-14 Susan A. Davis D CA-53 Joe Donnelly D IN-2 Kathy Dahlkemper D PA-3 Steve Driehaus D OH-1 Eliot L. Engel D NY-17 Anna G. Eshoo D CA-14 Bob Etheridge D NC-2 Keith Ellison D MN-5 Brad Ellsworth D IN-8 Donna Edwards D MD-4 Sam Farr D CA-17 Chaka Fattah D PA-2 Bob Filner D CA-51 Barney Frank D MA-4 Bill Foster D IL-14 Marcia L. Fudge D OH-11 Gene Green D TX-29 Luis V. Gutierrez D IL-4 Charlie Gonzalez D TX-20 Ra**l M. Grijalva D AZ-7 Al Green D TX-9 Gabrielle Giffords D AZ-8 Alan Grayson D FL-8 John Garamendi D CA-10 Jane Harman D CA-36 Alcee L. Hastings D FL-23 Maurice D. Hinchey D NY-22 Rub*©n Hinojosa D TX-15 Steny H. Hoyer D MD-5 Baron P. Hill D IN-9 Rush Holt D NJ-12 Michael M. Honda D CA-15 Brian Higgins D NY-27 John Hall D NY-19 Phil Hare D IL-17 Mazie K. Hirono D HI-2 Paul W. Hodes D NH-2 Debbie Halvorson D IL-11 Martin Heinrich D NM-1 Jim Himes D CT-4 Jay Inslee D WA-1 Steve Israel D NY-2 Sheila Jackson-Lee D TX-18 Eddie Bernice Johnson D TX-30 Jesse L. Jackson Jr. D IL-2 Hank Johnson D GA-4 Paul E. Kanjorski D PA-11 Marcy Kaptur D OH-9 Patrick J. Kennedy D RI-1 Dale E. Kildee D MI-5 Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick D MI-13 Ron Kind D WI-3 Steve Kagen D WI-8 Ron Klein D FL-22 Ann Kirkpatrick D AZ-1 Mary Jo Kilroy D OH-15 Sander M. Levin D MI-12 John Lewis D GA-5 Zoe Lofgren D CA-16 Nita M. Lowey D NY-18 Barbara Lee D CA-9 John B. Larson D CT-1 Jim Langevin D RI-2 Rick Larsen D WA-2 Stephen F. Lynch D MA-9 Daniel Lipinski D IL-3 Dave Loebsack D IA-2 Ben Ray Lujan D NM-3 Carolyn B. Maloney D NY-14 Edward J. Markey D MA-7 Carolyn McCarthy D NY-4 Jim McGovern D MA-3 Jim McDermott D WA-7 George Miller D CA-7 Alan B. Mollohan D WV-1 James P. Moran D VA-8 John P. Murtha D PA-12 Gregory W. Meeks D NY-6 Dennis Moore D KS-3 Betty McCollum D MN-4 Kendrick B. Meek D FL-17 Michael H. Michaud D ME-2 Brad Miller D NC-13 Gwen Moore D WI-4 Doris Matsui D CA-5 Jerry McNerney D CA-11 Harry E. Mitchell D AZ-5 Patrick J. Murphy D PA-8 Christopher S. Murphy D CT-5 Dan Maffei D NY-25 Jerrold Nadler D NY-8 Richard E. Neal D MA-2 Grace F. Napolitano D CA-38 James L. Oberstar D MN-8 David R. Obey D WI-7 John W. Olver D MA-1 Solomon P. Ortiz D TX-27 Bill Owens D NY-23 Frank Pallone D NJ-6 Bill Pascrell Jr. D NJ-8 Ed Pastor D AZ-4 Donald M. Payne D NJ-10 Nancy Pelosi D CA-8 Earl Pomeroy D ND-1 David E. Price D NC-4 Ed Perlmutter D CO-7 Gary Peters D MI-9 Chellie Pingree D ME-1 Jared Polis D CO-2 Tom Perriello D VA-5 Mike Quigley D IL-5 Nick J. Rahall II D WV-3 Charles B. Rangel D NY-15 Silvestre Reyes D TX-16 Steven R. Rothman D NJ-9 Lucille Roybal-Allard D CA-34 Bobby L. Rush D IL-1 Ciro D. Rodriguez D TX-23 C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger D MD-2 Tim Ryan D OH-17 Laura Richardson D CA-37 Loretta Sanchez D CA-47 Robert C. Scott D VA-3 Jos*© E. Serrano D NY-16 Brad Sherman D CA-27 Louise M. Slaughter D NY-28 Adam Smith D WA-9 Vic Snyder D AR-2 John M. Spratt Jr. D SC-5 Pete Stark D CA-13 Bart Stupak D MI-1 Jan Schakowsky D IL-9 Adam B. Schiff D CA-29 Linda T. Sanchez D CA-39 David Scott D GA-13 John Salazar D CO-3 Allyson Y. Schwartz D PA-13 Albio Sires D NJ-13 John Sarbanes D MD-3 Joe Sestak D PA-7 Carol Shea-Porter D NH-1 Zack Space D OH-18 Betty Sutton D OH-13 Jackie Speier D CA-12 Mark Schauer D MI-7 Kurt Schrader D OR-5 Bennie Thompson D MS-2 John F. Tierney D MA-6 Edolphus Towns D NY-10 Mike Thompson D CA-1 Niki Tsongas D MA-5 Dina Titus D NV-3 Paul Tonko D NY-21 Nydia M. Vel*°zquez D NY-12 Peter J. Visclosky D IN-1 Chris Van Hollen D MD-8 Maxine Waters D CA-35 Melvin Watt D NC-12 Henry A. Waxman D CA-30 Robert Wexler D FL-19 Lynn Woolsey D CA-6 Anthony Weiner D NY-9 David Wu D OR-1 Diane Watson D CA-33 Debbie Wasserman Schultz D FL-20 Tim Walz D MN-1 Peter Welch D VT-1 Charlie Wilson D OH-6 John Yarmuth D KY-3 No Votes (215) (again from the NYT, fair use applies) otter pop (certainly to be deep in his den in due time)
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It's not over yet. We still have a Senate vote, and that's not going to happen until after the Thanksgiving recess, possibly the first of next year.
There is still some time to raise holy hell or plan the revolution, however you decide.
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I followed the link ( http://www.nytimes.com?emc=na ) provided by paulgavin1964, in the original post. (thanks!)
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Every physician in America should refuse to treat any member of congress and their families for this communist piece of shit!!! Nancy Pelosi should be drug out into the street and [self censored].
I hope every one of them die from lack of treatment.... notice I did not threaten the evil ones, just hoped that they get what they're going to cause on us! "Vote from the Rooftops" .
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PLEASE Remember This Next Year
VOTE NEXT ELECTION. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE. Just look at the congresscritters voted, and remember all the procedural gimmicks used to stifle objection.
Also, relevant and not to take away from this thread, but C*ap and Fade is coming from this same bunch. OK, stepping back to wait for the "there is no difference" crowd to pipe up.
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Thanks otter pop.
Here's another link from the Washington Post. If you click on the word "STATE" over that column at the top of the page, it arranges the names by State, instead of alphabetically so you can easily find how your state did. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...l?hpid=topnews HD
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I wish there was some way to vote OUT Norm Dicks, but I swear he has the vote count results prearranged to win every friggin election. It doesn't seem to matter how people feel about him.
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Ok, I snagged the text from OtterPop's vote tallies, and did a quick HTML job on them for readability.
I put the page here Sorry, but it is a simple text table, so it can't be sorted or anything. The buttons marked "TB2K Return" top and bottom will reload this thread. Fred
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Something that crossed my mind when I read of this crap, was.....
If this passes further and gets made reality , will there be forced/mandatory vaccinations? I'd imagine the answer would be a resounding YES!!! They will force this healthcare down our throats or we will be fined and/or go to jail if we refuse.. THEN those who don't put up a fight and go with this crap, THEN they will say "oh, well to keep this govt healthcare, all your immunizations/vacs have to be up to date.. or be refused treatment untill you do.. THEN you will still go to jail/be fined for not having their "healthcare".. So no matter what they ultimately have everyone by the proverbial balls.. What do you guys/gals think? Scary huh? EDITED TO ADD: WOW!!, I just noticed this EXACT line of thinking has been brought up in those places as well... So I am not alone in this line of thinking... We are SOOO DOOMED!! I am beginning to wonder if this was their plan all along to force this swine flu vax on the population ..
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I sure hope people protest this LOUDLY outside the senate when they go to officially vote this into law . It sure would be nice to see a million or so angry Americans voicing their disapproval , much like the march on D.C. over the summer .. Wouldn't that be something? Maybe if the voice of the people is loud enough they will be afraid to vote in favor of passing it , and in fear of not being able to leave the senate bulding where they are voting, if they vote "the wrong way" if you catch my drift......
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Was watching Fox just now and just caught part of the rolling script at the bottom that said a R-Senator "Coburn" said after hearing this bill passed the House told his staff to clear his schedule for the Senate vote. He plans to READ THE WHOLE BILL!!!!! Added Edit: This isn't over yet! Last edited by Terriannie; 11-08-2009 at 06:28 AM.
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it will pass the senate
don't you get it? they will posture and BS but it will pass the senate just like the reps exactly on party line vote. Just more drama.
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Ok when is the Senate going to vote on this so I can get the car gassed up and ready to go? Maybe it will be passed by the Senate maybe not but I'm willing to go to DC for the second protest march of my life and put my two cents in to let my Senators know what I think of this bill. Well I might have to be a little more polite. The words I would use to express how I honestly feel about this are not fit for use in public especially if there are children in hearing distance. I want to be able to look my kids and grand kids in the eye and tell them I did all I could to save our country from these traitors.
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I don't think these dimwits are going to get the message that WE DONT WANT THIS, unless DC is literally swamped under the weight of protesters. Protesters by the millions, Laugh now Nancy, I'm in this for the long haul. And I know I'm NOT the only one. Now is not the time to lose heart. As hard as it is to feel optomistic (and I admit its a struggle even for me), NOW is the time to hold in our memories those who have given their lives for our freedom. NOW is the time for us, to take a minute, kick the door jamb, say a few choice four letter words, then sit back down and figure out where do we go from here. SO many died for this country and its ideals. We owe it to them, to not give up now. Just think for a moment, how many people this past year, for the first time in their lives in many cases, have stood up, spoken up and taken their representatives to the woodshed for their stupidity. How many went to Washington on Sept 12 as well as this past week, in fact even last NIGHT there were people outside the capitol. All of these people and those who could not make it, stood and sided with America 39 Democrats, for whatever reason, openly defied their twisted sister of a Speaker and said HELL NO Madame Nitwit, we're not going along with this travesty of Justice. Last year this would have been a slam dunk for passage instead of just barely squeaking in. WE did that, even though we lost, WE put the doubt in a lot of them. There is hope, if we keep it in our hearts. By an accident of birth I was born in this wonderful place we call America. I OWE it. I owe it my time, my heart, my commitment to never give up on it, and I'm not stopping until my heart stops beating. By the way, the Republicans don't own this issue, there are Democrats, Independents and just plain unaffiliated who are scared to death and pissed off as to what is being done to America. NOW is the time, we all take a good look at who is out there, of whatever political party, who puts the country ahead of what some House or Senate speaker wants. They are out there, they need the support of all freedom loving Americans. We've work to do, Thanks Nancy, you've succeeded in REALLY pissing off the chattering classes now honey. You've won a battle, its going to be a VERY LONG WAR!!
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there ya go. the tea party protests worked. start saving up folks... that $15K policy from pelosi aint cheap!
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This is so much bovine excrement. The so-called Blue Dogs are supposed to be covered because they needed an anti abortion amendment? What about the whole idea of a government option? What about insuring illegals? What about no tort reform? What about fining and jailing people for not getting health insurance? So all of that is okay as long as an anti abortion amendment is in there. BS.
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Well said. Well said. I will NOT lie down for these bastards. I will not give up. I will not give in.
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11-08-2009, 09:54 AM
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"All politics is local", after all.
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Abayo, hwyl, hejda, do widzenia, na shledanou, slan agat, le hitra'ot The United States Constitution © 1791. All Rights Reserved.
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I think what matters is that we ALL try to restore this country to its greatness and uphold the Constitution as what it is, the law of the land. It doesn't take a particular political persuasion to do that, it just takes people who love this country. Period. We don't need more D's or more R's, we need more patriots.
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”It is amazing that people who think we cannot afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, and medication somehow think that we can afford to pay for doctors, hospitals, medication and a government bureaucracy to administer it.” Thomas Sowell
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I hope this works...TX voting record for last night
VOTE----------Member--------------Party----------------State-------------Campaign Money from Health Care---------------Percent in District without health care
No Gohmert, Louis Buller R TX-1 $374,819 25.50% No McCaul, Michael T. R TX-10 $149,225 20.80% No Conaway, K. Michael R TX-11 $320,852 27.00% No Granger, Kay R TX-12 $462,369 25.70% No Thornberry, William McClellan R TX-13 $345,202 23.70% No Paul, Ronald Ernest R TX-14 $1,115,839 24.00% Yes Hinojosa, Rubén D TX-15 $363,150 36.60% Yes Reyes, Silvestre D TX-16 $198,890 34.60% No Edwards, Thomas Chester D TX-17 $643,971 23.20% Yes Jackson-Lee, Sheila D TX-18 $388,716 36% No Neugebauer, Randy R TX-19 $252,096 22.60% No Poe, Ted R TX-2 $263,700 21.50% Yes Gonzalez, Charles A. D TX-20 $490,024 31.30% No Smith, Lamar Seeligson R TX-21 $568,359 16.40% No Olson, Pete R TX-22 $83,497 19.60% Yes Rodriguez, Ciro D. D TX-23 $329,113 26.20% No Marchant, Kenny R TX-24 $96,150 20.50% Yes Doggett, Lloyd Alton D TX-25 $573,802 26.30% No Burgess, Michael Clifton R TX-26 $1,270,423 21.10% Yes Ortiz, Solomon Porfirio D TX-27 $151,780 32.00% Yes Cuellar, Henry Roberto D TX-28 $396,994 35.50% Yes Green, Raymond Eugene D TX-29 $740,560 43.00% No Johnson, Sam R TX-3 $51,752 24.00% Yes Johnson, Eddie Bernice D TX-30 $164,080 38.40% No Carter, John Rice R TX-31 $237,124 16.90% No Sessions, Pete R TX-32 $1,424,900 35.70% No Hall, Ralph Moody R TX-4 $795,396 22.90% No Hensarling, Jeb R TX-5 $174,627 25.80% No Barton, Joe Linus R TX-6 $2,719,871 23.30% No Culberson, John Abney R TX-7 $273,909 17.60% No Brady, Kevin Patrick R TX-8 $500,676 22.50% Yes Green, Alexander N. D TX-9 $51,950 37.3% These people need to go down for war crimes.
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undocumented worker = illegal alien = invader
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Ya know.. I think the time for massive protests, strikes and shutdowns have started. Good old peaceful HUGE protests.
It works for the left, Worked for the civil rights crowd, and its going to have to work for those who wish to remain FREE from this Police-state-care bill. We are no longer represented in government. We will be forced at gun point to buy health insurance at prices THEY set, with rules THEY will enforce, and yes, in the long run, I think they will use health care to ban guns and anything else they don't like due to "the cost to society" of said things. The time for playing nice is over. Its time to protest and protest loudly.
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Obamacare: All the efficiency of the DMV, all the compassion of the IRS.
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