OP-ED The Evolution of ‘Feminism' Saddens Me

[NC Susan]

The Evolution of ‘Feminism' Saddens Me
http://www.newsmax.com/dr_laura/femi...05/282300.html

Thursday, November 5, 2009 3:54 PM

By: Dr. Laura Schlessinger

I was in college in the '60s, when the "feminista" movement took over the thinking of women . . . including me!
Hey, any time you tell people that their circumstances are not of their own doing, you find receptive ears. Anytime you tell people they are victims of the dark side, but you have a way to bring them to the light, well, you'll have an audience.
So there I was, young and impressionable, hearing that men were chauvinist pigs if they helped you with your coat, opened a door for you, paid for dinner, asked your father for your hand in marriage, expected anything homey or caretaking from us.

The root word of "feminism" is "feminine," and that's what always was missing from the movement. The movement highlighted — and still does — the horrible burden of being female. What are these “burdens?”



Having a uterus and mammary glands to co-create and sustain life became burdens to be eliminated with birth control and abortion. Virginity has become a joke versus a value.

Committing to a man was a burden dispensed with by shacking up or hooking up. This way, there was sex and a modicum of companionship without giving up any power through real intimacy that requires responsibility.

Mothering and child care became a burden avoided with nannies, day cares, and babysitters. The burden of fathers was dispensed with through sperm donations.

Bothering with men at all was a burden lifted in many girl's colleges and women's circles through "social" lesbianism.

Getting a complete education, which means giving due credit to the value and accomplishments of men, was a burden dealt with through women's studies courses that emphasized the universal and eternal abuse of women, and marked anything male as evil.

Acknowledging the importance of masculinity was a burden dispensed with through revisionist textbooks, denigration of the military, metrosexuality, and emasculated male images in media.

Femininity was a burden cured by crass, insensitive, unloving, ungiving, often nasty attitude toward being soft, loving, caring, warm, sweet, sensual, motherly, or care-taking. It’s what led me to write “The Proper Care and Feeding of Husbands,” helping women realize that their attitudes toward their husbands was downright abusive.

The young women of today automatically think of themselves as feminists because they've been brainwashed by their mothers and much of society. Problematically, these women, many of whom write to me or call my radio program, don't understand much about the male mind. They are convinced that men should be just like women in their thoughts and reactions and are frustrated when that mentality doesn't work.

Their men are either withdrawn or hostile.

Feminist mothers brought up these young girls to have disdain for men and masculinity while seeing themselves as the ultimate power and someone whose every whim wins . . . or else. Generations ago, women were taught to understand the male ego and to use "feminine wiles" to work with, not against, the male disposition.
Many feminists look at this as unnecessary manipulation. I see it as a gentle way for the feminine to work with the masculine.
I have told women day after day that, if they want to get something of value out of their men, such as attention, affection, and the plumbing fixed, they are better off being more like a girlfriend than like a fish wife.
For example, I might say, "The next time your husband does something around the house, bring him lemonade, spill a little on his neck and lick it off . . . he will spend the rest of his waking hours finding things to fix in the house. Isn't that better, and more fun for both of you, than nagging and complaining that he doesn't do anything?"

From my point of view, the feminist movement has resulted in deaths of millions of unborn children, with millions more children born out of wedlock with no daddy to love and protect them.
We have children brought up in institutionalized settings, a gross lack of modesty and sexual morality, an explosion of sexually transmitted diseases, and millions of broken homes.
Ultimately, we have generations of unfulfilled, unhappy, confused, and profoundly angry women.
When women forgive themselves their petty annoyances and act like their husband's girlfriend, they're happier. When women stay home to raise their own children and enjoy the blessings of investing in and influencing the next generation, they are happier. When women get to experience their man putting them on a pedestal, worshiping the ground they walk on, they are happier. I'm all about making women happy.
And it’s pretty easy to make men happy.
It is remarkable that each and every one of the women who has called my show complaining about her husband, and who was then asked the question, "Would you want to come home to you?" has said, haltingly, no. There it is. When women disdain masculinity and their own femininity, all is lost for the family.
Women who dare to make choices on the basis of what will benefit their children and family are also disdained by the "feministas," I believe, out of guilt. When a woman chooses to be a stay-at-home wife and mother, most women see her as wasting her life, giving in to "the man," too stupid or weak to stand up for herself, too lazy to work . . . and worse.
The feminist movement has never been about choice because "pro-life" stay-at-home-moms are attacked venomously . . . as well as those who support it. Like me.

I am 62 years old. I've seen the whole evolution of woman-power and it saddens me. I'm all for equal pay for the same work. Unfortunately, it didn't stop there. And life is not better because of it.

[Anchor]

This really brings it all back home to me, personally. Thank you, NC Susan.

[fruit loop]

Laura forgets that she is also bashing the very thing that gave her the ability to get her education and have a radio show. In times past, women couldn't get advanced degrees of any kind, practice medicine (although she's not a doctor, she IS practicing as a counselor), have careers, appear in public other than at social functions, or give public speeches unless they were queens.

[BigBadBossyDog]

I'm roughly the same age as the Dr. and I remember pretty much the same way as she.

However, I never fell for it. I'm glad I didn't. I would so hate to be a femi-Nazi.

[zookeeper9]

[quote=NC Susan;3549637]
Women who dare to make choices on the basis of what will benefit their children and family are also disdained by the "feministas," I believe, out of guilt. When a woman chooses to be a stay-at-home wife and mother, most women see her as wasting her life, giving in to "the man," too stupid or weak to stand up for herself, too lazy to work . . . and worse.

The feminist movement has never been about choice because "pro-life" stay-at-home-moms are attacked venomously . . . as well as those who support it. Like me.

I am 62 years old. I've seen the whole evolution of woman-power and it saddens me. I'm all for equal pay for the same work. Unfortunately, it didn't stop there. And life is not better because of it.[/QUOTE]

Although I am not the same age as Dr. Laura, I agree with the statement above in red. I have a college degree, worked for years even after having children and then realized that my life wasn't any better. And once you make that choice to come home you are attacked by the so called feminists. You are suddenly not worthy to spend time with you former friends because you have become a traitor to the movement. And it truly is sad. It should be about choices that make for themselves and their family.

Originally Posted by fruit loop

Laura forgets that she is also bashing the very thing that gave her the ability to get her education and have a radio show. In times past, women couldn't get advanced degrees of any kind, practice medicine (although she's not a doctor, she IS practicing as a counselor), have careers, appear in public other than at social functions, or give public speeches unless they were queens.

FL, see the statement in blue. I didn't take it as her bashing. Rather while the movement started out with great ideal, it has become anti-men, women can do it all, all men are scum unless they are in touch with their feminine side. And then they attack women who chose not to live those ideals.

[fruit loop]

Calling feminists nazis always makes me laugh. Hitler hated women. Girls in the female version of Hitler Youth weren't allowed to wear makeup and he regarded women as breeding machines, no more, no less.

I remember the days rape trials were really about proving the innocence of the victim rather than the perpetrator, and the term date rape didn't even exist. When I was in high school the county DA wouldn't file charges in date rape cases. He said being on the date was "implied consent" for sex. There were boys in my school that everyone knew not to date because you'd come home injured....and they weren't the "school punks" either.

I remember when domestic violence victims escaped bad marriages through the front door in a casket because wife beating was considered a "private family matter" and there were no battered women's shelters for them to go to.

When I was in school the boys got the gym and the girls got the cafeteria for phys ed....and instructional time was used to move the tables and chairs. Thank GOd for title 9.

Women didn't get the right to vote until the 20th century...and thanks to feminists.

We've come a long way, baby, and thanks to feminism.

[fruit loop]

There are women like me who are infertile. Back in The Day, my husband could divorce me or even kill me just for this. That was my only value.

[William]

"fruit loop" Your moniker said it all I can't add anything to it.




The show goes on...............

[Greenspode]

My mother graduated high school in 1948. She was Valedictorian of her large graduating class. She was a very talented artist who had won many state, and a couple of national, competitions with her artwork and had dreams of being a fashion designer or an illustrator of childrens books, and desperately wanted to go to college and major in either art or design. Her father was well employed and could have easily afforded to pay for her education, or she could have gotten scholarships if she had been able to apply for them.

Her father believed in the "traditional" role of women and absolutely forbid her from attending college. He felt it was a waste of money, as women did not need a college education to be homemakers and that was the role of women in his mind. She had been raised to be an obedient female, and defer to the better judgement of the male authority, so she did NOT pursue her dreams, she got married right out of high school and started having babies like a good little girl. She watched her brother, one year younger and not even on the planet of a good student, get the college education and the career. His dreams were considered valid and they were fulfilled even though he was in no way worthy of the opportunity that was denied my mother.

For 16 years she stayed home, raised babies and made dinner. Every time she tried to pursue her artwork, she was put through hell by her father, and by then, my father, both of whom told her she had no REASON to try and "work" and was just wasting time. During that time, she watched my father make bad business decisions, and bad family financial decisions. She finally, in 1965, went out and got herself a job, against the ranting and raving of both my father, and her father. The feminist movement was like a beacon for her. She COULD have a role in her own life. She COULD have a say in her own future and destiny. She COULD have a career if she wanted one, and no one could tell her no. While her job was not related to her artwork, it was money coming in, money that she could use to giver her daughters a college education.

Without a college education, and with no work experience, she started at the lowest position with her company at the age of 34. In the next 15 years she worked her way up in the company, and by the age of 49 was the Director of her department, with 200 employees working under her. She was a smart, smart lady and an amazing role model. She retired at age 67. Funny enough, it was my Mothers pension that supported my parents in thier old age. My father had no pension, just a small amount of SS due to the fact that he had been self employed and just never really "made it" financially, though he worked hard. He just was not as smart as my Mother and made some bad financial decisions. She died 5 years ago. My Father is still living on the survivor benefits of her pension. Good thing too, his SS is only 400.00 a month.

My Mother raised all of her daughters to believe that we could be what we wanted to be, we could follow our dreams, we did NOT have to be just mothers and wives. She taught us that it was OK if we did not want to get married and have children. She taught us that it was OK if we wanted to pursue a dream. She taught us that it was OK to be talented at something, and to let that take us as far as it could. She taught us that it was OK to control our own destiny. Most importantly, she taught us that the job of a Mother is to nurture our children, to encourage their talents and dreams (even if they were girls!) and to help them be all they can be, regardless of gender.

All four of her daughters went on the get college degrees. All four got married and had children. Two of us have always had careers. Two of us had careers before children and then were stay at home Mom's after our children arrived. My Mother supported whole heartedly our decisions, whatever they may be.

Her whole point was that women are people too, and not every woman wants to be a homemaker and defer to the "better judgement" and "guidance" of men who may not actually have better judgement or the ability to guide. Her point was that women have talents, smarts, and the ability to have careers if they so choose, and should actually, gasp, be allowed to pursue those talents and dreams if that is what fulfills them. She always told us to NEVER marry a man who wants us to "defer" to them, as that is a sign of insecurity and not the basis of a true partnership. She encouraged us to marry men who wanted a true partner, in every sense of the word.

We all followed her advice. We all married men who loved us, supported us and encouraged us to be all we can be. We all married men who we have true partnerships with. We have all been married for between 20 and 35 years (depending on our ages) and have good, strong marriages.

The two of us who have had careers all along actually make more money than our husbands. Our husbands don't seem to mind! They are actually proud of us! My husband brags to anyone who will listen about how good I am at what I do. I had talents, and I pursued them. My career has been wonderful, I have grown and learned so much from the experiences of my life, and I have been able to teach my children so much more about true success and fulfillment than I could have if I had never had these experiences.

Here is the funny thing. When we compare the children of the two of us who were stay at home Mom's, vs the two of us who had careers, those of us with careers have raised far more successful children. They are smart, focused, ambitious, hard working young men and women who will be successful in life. They are kind and caring, volunteer their time to help others and are aware of world events, politics, etc.

The children raised by the stay at homes are floundering. They are still at home. They just don't seem to be mature enough to handle the real world.

Now, I know that this is not indicitive of the stay at home vs. career mothers across the board. However, I can say that my career did not seem to hurt my children any. I have raised two United States Marines, so I must have done something right!

My point is that, woman are people too. They should be able to make choices that are best for them, and not have choices made for them. They should be able to have a dream, a goal, a career, and never get married or have children if that is what they choose.

I am thankful every day that my Mother found feminiism and paved the way for me to follow my dreams.

Can't understand why people think this is a bad thing.

[MataPam]

William, it's no good denying history - or in the Middle East, current laws.

However, to address the original post:

I went to college in the 70's, and I didn't see the anti-male attitudes that today's feminists display. Back then we were working our asses off, because we had to keep our grades up to stay in college. We pursued high status careers and worked at them. Back then a woman had to work twice as hard to achieve half the recognition. And we darn well did work.

Since then, the Cult of Victimology has completely taken over, embraced by the vocal "leadership." Not just the feminists. Everyone is a whining victim, these days.

Now, even the men are oppressed, by women. Whites whine about how oppressed they are, by minorities _Gasp!_ being hired for the jobs they wanted.

It's pathetic. The so-called leaders of the feminists don't represent me, they've veered off into socialistic power trips, with the rest of the liberals. And too many people seem to like being victims. If they whine, they don't have to try so hard.

[Kent]

Originally Posted by fruit loop

There are women like me who are infertile. Back in The Day, my husband could divorce me or even kill me just for this. That was my only value.

What day would that be? 10,000BC?

[Greenspode]

Another thought I just had.

I know many women who are "stay at home" Mom's.

When the children were babies, it made sense. Now, the kids are at school. What do they do all day? Nothing.

Back in the day, homemaking was hard. Cleaning was a full time job with mops and brooms. Cooking took all day. It was hard work. I know for many women, it still is. But for the ones I know, it is just an excuse to watch TV and talk on the phone.

Want to talk about what is on TV? They are your girls. Want to know who has the best price on the the new video game? Give them a call, they know where to get it. Want to gossip about the latest celebrity dirt, they can chat about that all day.

It makes me crazy to hear them talk about how "tired" they are. Tired???? I do what they do each day, plus run two businesses. How tired can one be when all you have to do each day is make some pancakes in the morning and send the kids off to school, then run the vacuum and take some meat out of the freezer for dinner? They then have all day before the kids get off the bus. What do they do with that time??

Now, I know that for many women, they actually DO something useful and purposeful during the day. They have an active role in running the farm, or volunteer at school, or the homeless shelter, whatever. But, for many woman living the "traditional" role, they are just damn lazy. I actually have an acquaitance who tells me over and over again that I am crazy to be a career woman. Why work so hard? She has it made. No job, housekeeping is easy these days, and she has all her time to herself.

She is raising a bunch of lazy, do for me so I don't have to do for myself, children. She has no knowledge of the real world, because she has no responsibilites other than "raising" the children, and has no reason to educate herself. Her husband takes care of all that, even the thinking part.

She would never clean out the gutters, that is mens work. She would never scrape and paint the house, that is mens work. She would never clean out the garage, change the oil, fix the plumbing, etc. Her poor husband works 50 hours a week, then comes home to all the "dirty, mens work" household chores around the place. Course, I think he loves it. His wife is always pretty, with good hair and polished nails. She has plenty of time to shop for the prettiest clothes. She is a credit to him, and looks real nice on his arm at business functions. She defers to his "better judgement" on all matters, so has no repsonsibility for the outcome of anything. Conversation?? Forget it, but they are so proud to be living the good, traditional life.

How is this a good thing???

These are the types of women that the "feminists" don't have friendships with. It is not out of hatred because they have chosen a different path. It is because we just don't get them. It is hard to have the extent of your conversations be about what brand of diaper genie to buy and who is Brad Pitt with now? I don't want to live my life that way. Call me a horrible feminist I guess, but I have nothing in common with these women and choose not to attend their Pampered Chef parties and "girls night out", which is really just code for "dress up like we did in high school, get drunk, giddy, and pretend we are still in high school".

Their hair is done, their nails are perfect, the dress well, they "do" lunch, they are so proud of little suzy and little Jimmy, who just won the dance contest, the soccer game, whatever. The look like the good little women on the surface and are pleased as punch that they are "homemakers" and are doing the "right thing, the best thing" for their children and staying at home to "raise" them.

How can someone who has no expereince, no goals, no understanding of what it means to set a goal, work hard, accomplish something, raise hard working, responsible children?

Disclaimer, I know that this does not apply to all "traditional" women, but lets face it, homemaking ain't all that hard anymore! Read a damn newspaper, do SOMETHING productive, Get a JOB! Make a little money so your poor husband can take some time off!

Give me "feminism" any time.

[fruit loop]

Greenspode, my adoptive father's sister was forced to drop out of school at the age of twelve to cook and clean for the rest of the family because her mother had diabetes so that her brothers could keep working in the fields. Her dad said she didn't need to go to school anyway.

This mentality was passed on to my adoptive father, who always shrugged off my report cards. He said educating girls was a waste of time because they usually got pregnant and dropped out of school to get married before they could graduate. (To her credit, this always made the adoptive mother fly into a red bloody rage)

[fruit loop]

Greenspode, those women are lost sheep when their husbands die, too. THey don't even know how to pay a light bill. I can't bring myself to feel contempt for them....it's truly frightening.

[Anrol5]

Fantastically well said Greenspode.

What saddens me now is that many people say that women have won, we don’t to be feminists any more. I have noticed that great strides have been made towards equally for all, whether that's on the grounds of sex, race, whatever, but the moment we sit back, and say, we are there, someone comes along and nibbles a bit of our freedom away.

And, IMO, far too many of the young today, don’t know about the history of equality, and are prepared to give up the fight, and let our new found, equality slide. And if you knew about Britsh history, you would know that it only relatively recently, that the last "women as goods and chattels" laws were repealed.

Anrol

[fruit loop]

There was a Wife Swap episode recently where a family is raising their beauty-queen daughter to be an airhead. They even did her homework for her. They see nothing wrong with her being a trophy wife. The dad said at the end of the show that there was nothing wrong with being beautiful in life, and that there were always people around willing to help beautiful people along in life.

Yeah, well, you're only one disease or accident away from being NOT physically beautiful anymore.

I've known some "beautiful" people who were the ugliest folks I've ever met.

[Fritz_The_Cat]

Feminism is the greatest threat facing America today. Few realize it because it destroys slowly and silently.

[William]

Originally Posted by MataPam

William, it's no good denying history - or in the Middle East, current laws

My wife has not one, but two Master Degree's, and we have been married for 23 years, and still managed to rased our family, the middle east history has nothing to with us, or this article. Life is what you make it, and who you make it with.

Women to day have no wiving skills, and wonder why they can't keep a man.

[Cardinal]

Feminism is a turd with a chocolate coating. It is hard to separate the good from the bad here.
Yes, life is better in some respects for women, but it has also wrecked havoc on relationships and society.

[BlueNewton]

Fruitloop and Greenspode grasp the problem. When a quality and balanced man and woman get together, problems in this area will likely not arise. The issue is in the other 90 percent of the cases, where one is limited and controlled as a result of gender.

Secure men ought to like strong and independent-thinking women. Then feminism isn't a threat. Each person should do what THEY want, not what society wants, not what another person thinks they should want to do.

As for the feminine wiles thing--give me a straight-shooter anytime over a manipulative, coy person. Manipulation is manipulation. And if someone is too insecure to hear it as it is and value another person's opinion, what good is he/she in a relationship?

Laura Schlissinger is an utter twit. I can't imagine that anyone actually follows her callow advice.

[BigBadBossyDog]

Greenspode, what happened to your mother has nothing to do with feminism or equal rights. It has everything to do with controlling males in the family.

I was born in 1944 and not only were we kids expected to go to college but my parents more or less insisted on it. My brother and sister, who are 7 and 9 years older than me, and I all went to college. Once we were educated, we were on our own. My sister became a stay-at-home mom, my brother owns a wonderful business, and I worked for many years and now own my business.

My parents, in particular my father, had no problem with women becoming successful. In fact, he met my mother in college.

[pastprime]

THe most freedom enhancing development for women in my lifetime was birth control (not abortion). It allowed for choice. I saw what lousy birth control did to poor women all through the community I grew up in and knew at an early age the sadness of all they endured as a result. Today, I see Moms with smiles on their face!

[Greenspode]

With all due respect BigBadBossyDog, in my view it has everything to do with feminism.

My mother did not KNOW that she was an equal person, who had the right to have her own mind, her own life, her own dreams, etc. It took the feminist movement to make her realize that she was a person who had all the same rights, abilities and value as a man.

The men in her life we just following their own beliefs, and the general leanings of society. They genuinely believed that women were supposed to stay at home and serve them. That is just the way it was. My father and I have had this conversation on many occasions. He see's the error of his ways, partly due to having four daughters!! He realized that he did not want his own daughters to be relegated to a life that was not what we wanted. He wanted us to be HAPPY and if that meant having a career rather than a family, or having both, it was great with him. He loved his daughters and wanted the best for us.

While I admire the experience of your family, for that time period, it was the exception rather than the rule.

I just do not understand the attitude that feminism is some evil thing, is destroying our families, etc. Why must women be oppressed for the family to succeed? Why must smart, talented women stay home and darn socks rather than have careers just because men say they should? My family is just fine, as are the families of all my friends who have careers. Actually, the most screwed up families I know are the ones where the man wears the pants and the little women watches soap opera's all day while "raising" the children. I believe this is just an excuse that men make when their relationships fail. Rather than looking to themselves as equally responsible for the failure, they blame it on the horrible women, who have the nerve to want the same things in life that men want. The nerve of them!!! Just another example of "blame someone else".

You CAN NOT have a happy family if the mother is an unequal partner against her will, but accepts it quietly because it is what society dictates. You just have the illusion of one. If you think that the world is "happy" with half its citizens being told they are not equal and should go home and change diapers, when what the really want is to be a doctor, lawyer, dancer, artist, whatever, then I wonder whose happiness you are really interested in. The families?? Or just your own?? And don't tell me about the children. Good mothers are good mothers, having a career or staying at home has nothing to do with it.

If you need your woman barefoot and pregnant to have a happy family, and a happy society, that is just disturbing. Now, if your wife is happy being barefoot and pregnant, that is just fine. That is her choice. That is what this is all about, CHOICE. The freedome of choice that woman now have. It drives some men crazy! Sad, really.


William, the same could be said for men!! They have no husbanding skills and wonder why they can't keep a woman! LOL. And by the way, my wiving skills are just fine, thank you very much.


I don't expect that most men who hate feminists will ever understand. Until you have been thrust into a role that you don't want, that does not suit your talents and abilities, that relegates you to second class citizen just because you don't have a penis, you just won't get it. And yes, I am sure that your life is much less rosey than it used to be. Damn women, wanting to be treated like equal people and screwing everything up. Do you really need to keep the little woman in her place to be happy and feel like a man?

I am so grateful every day, that I am married to a man who is so wonderful. He is not at all threatened by the fact that I am just as good at things as he is. His masculinity is not at all threatended by the fact that I can back a trailer, hang and finish drywall and use a miter saw better than him (better than most men in fact, thanks Dad!), and he can get grass stains out of clothing, make pancakes and wash windows better than me. He's better with a rifle, I'm better with a pistol. He's stronger than me, but more patient. I'm smarter, but more easily frustrated. He's kinder, I'm more ambitious. I have grand plans, he figures out the details that I loss patience with. We each bring talents and skills to the relationship, We each bring interests, dreams and goals. We are a team, we balance each other. I would never want to deny my husband the things that he is interested in and good at. Why should I be denied those same things?

Now, I've heard the argument that a "good" man would never oppress his woman, would grant her what she wanted, would try to make her happy. That sounds great, then why is it not ok for her to be a Rocket Scientist if that is what makes her happy? Why does the sentiment end right when what makes her happy is a career? If you know your wife wants a career more than she wants children and you have a problem with that, maybe you should not be married to each other. Don't oppress me because you made a mistake in who you married.

Anyway, that is my rant for the day! And, don't get me wrong, I love men!! Just don't love the ones that would want me to be something I'm not!

[Conrad Nimikos]

I was born in 1943. My mom was a stay at home wife. My father had a job and both worked at home. In those days your "refrigerator" required an iceman to deliver a block of ice to your home. Coal was delivered to your home and went into a room in your basement. Dad shoveled coal into the very large furnace. Dad also had to scrape and paint the house. Cutting the grass required a push mower.

Cooking was a job that could require hours depending on what was cooked. Remember buying flour and ingredients and cooking everything by hand? Washing cloths in a washer by hand and putting the cloths through a hand wringer required time.

In those days a stay at home mom had a lot of time consuming work and time consuming work for the man. Women usually had a sewing machine and made their own cloths by hand or repaired cloths. There wasn't a lot of money in those days.

Recently I read an article about college attendance. Yes a there weren't mant women going to college. But the number of men going to college was less than 15 percent. I would imagine there were at least a few men who wanted to go to college who just couldn'ty afford to and wanted to. Remember at that time how many colleges there were? Not as many as we have now. And again there wasn't a lot of money then.

The GI bill changed everything. Veterans had college paid for and the number of people going to college sky rocketed.

What freed women was technology, not feminism. Birth control, the microwave, cake mixes and precooked meals. Not having to spend hours washing cloths and hanging them up to dry then taking them down and ironing them and hanging them up in the closet.

Technology changed the world; for men and for women.

[Cardinal]

Originally Posted by Conrad Nimikos

What freed women was technology, not feminism. Birth control, the microwave, cake mixes and precooked meals. Not having to spend hours washing cloths and hanging them up to dry then taking them down and ironing them and hanging them up in the closet.

Technology changed the world; for men and for women.

BINGO!! Most accurate assessment I have seen about the whole subject!

[NC Susan]

The GI bill changed everything. Veterans had college paid for and the number of people going to college sky rocketed.

What freed women was technology, not feminism.

Birth control, the microwave, cake mixes and precooked meals.
Not having to spend hours washing cloths and hanging them up to dry then taking them down and ironing them and hanging them up in the closet.

Technology changed the world; for men and for women.